₦airaland Forum

KaluwisxPRO:
You sound very stupid. First, if the Rail cannot fund itself or generate profits, then it means the cost was inflated. Except you’re stupid enough to start a business to run at a loss, and then start blaming your enemies. The route, being North does not have the Traffic, but you bunch of Terrorists thinks everything is about Politics of region and religion.

Secondly, imagine people boycotting roads to embrace traveling by rail, with all those Traffic, still cannot sustain itself.

Is the rail track to the North the only thing GEJ started? You lots say Buhari started 2nd Niger bridge, once a calamity happens there, you bunch will blame GEJ. Why didn’t your father in Terrorists stop the project after doing his own feasibility study on the route?

Which other country pays more to run a train service than income generated

The bolded has nothing to do with the project being in the north...
It doesn't generate enough to sustain it self because it ticket prices are extremely low...
And most importantly the intentions were never to make money but to provide a service ..
There is a difference

Look bro...
Ur just an ignorant fellow...

And note am not insulting u...am telling u what u are..

Make ur research.. Even China's railways are not profitable... Most railways around the world especially developing countries are built for service to the people and not for profit ..that is why it is called the cheapest form of transport...

I know ur the ethnic hatred inflicted type so u won't just want to agree...
The abuja Kaduna railway has more passenger volume that any rail line including Lagos Ibadan railway....
Visit the abuja station and get sense..
It not about Hausa Fulani... Other ethnic groups use the line

The reason why it isnt profitable is cuz the government is running it as a service therefore charging 3k base price for a project that cost $500 million.. With all the AC and comfort..
If u want profit.. Then get ready to support government to charge nothing less than N7,500 as base price.. The same price should be inflicted on passengers on the Lagos Ibadan railway and warri itakpe...

But if government change tactics and say they want to generate more money from it...confused fools like u will still complain..

Another way to generate more money is to built more locomotives and coaches which cost nothing less than N2bn..

If government budget for it now...
Confused fools like u will still complain

❌❌Did the high tech surveillance
stop criminals from breaching Aso Rock
two times in the last year❓

BeeBeeOoh:
***As 8 Persons Die, 25 Injure In Abuja-Kaduna Train Bomb Blast



https://independent.ng/amaechi-laments-lack-of-high-tech-equipment-for-railways-security/

amaechi na animal.

BeeBeeOoh:
***As 8 Persons Die, 25 Injure In Abuja-Kaduna Train Bomb Blast



https://independent.ng/amaechi-laments-lack-of-high-tech-equipment-for-railways-security/

Ameachi is a learned criminal. So you mean to suggest that the insecurities that besieged around the train way before now it because the government has to wait for a loan facility of 3 billion dollars just to tackle the insecurities in that axis.
What measures has the government put in place in the past to resolve this serial attacks around that axis before now.

Cognitivereason:
The bolded has nothing to do with the project being in the north...
It doesn't generate enough to sustain it self because it ticket prices are extremely low...
And most importantly the intentions were never to make money but to provide a service ..
There is a difference

Look bro...
Ur just an ignorant fellow...

And note am not insulting u...am telling u what u are..

Make ur research.. Even China's railways are not profitable... Most railways around the world especially developing countries are built for service to the people and not for profit ..that is why it is called the cheapest form of transport...

I know ur the ethnic hatred inflicted type so u won't just want to agree...
The abuja Kaduna railway has more passenger volume that any rail line including Lagos Ibadan railway....
Visit the abuja station and get sense..
It not about Hausa Fulani... Other ethnic groups use the line

The reason why it isnt profitable is cuz the government is running it as a service therefore charging 3k base price for a project that cost $500 million.. With all the AC and comfort..
If u want profit.. Then get ready to support government to charge nothing less than N7,500 as base price.. The same price should be inflicted on passengers on the Lagos Ibadan railway and warri itakpe...

But if government change tactics and say they want to generate more money from it...confused fools like u will still complain..

Another way to generate more money is to built more locomotives and coaches which cost nothing less than N2bn..

If government budget for it now...
Confused fools like u will still complain

Nigga, if there’s Traffic, the service will run itself. It is the same with road traffic, the North does not have as much travelers as other part of the country. The only time Northerners travel is to emigrate.

Most Northern road users are there for purchase of goods to other parts of the country.

I don’t need to waste my data doing research that you’ve already done where countries run train at losses. Mumu man, you don’t know what the demand of supply means, if there’s more traffic, price is supposed to reduce with full coaches at most pickup terminals.

Provide those data or STFU with your terroristic info.

All this one na excuse, super story cos this is not the first time train has being attack

alsudan:
Baba wan cash out in the name of procurement of Security Technology.

Na the Camera go engage the terrorists when the site them 100 meters away naa. Useless APC

What does it take to comb the forests in the North to get rid of these rag tags.

Help me ask these clowns...” na camera abi sensor go stop bandits? “

They are all clowns!

Is it a Nigerian thing or what? Why do they often come up with the wrong approach to issues?

If you don have enough guards... then recruit. There are many young “northern” men jobless at Alaba Rago.

Cut down government Wastage and recruit more men.

Throwback:
All my life before the advent of boko haram, I had always known that Nigeria did not have any security apparatus.

What we have is a gra gra apparatus.

Anyone non-Nigerian who is wanted can easily enter Nigeria and live comfortably in this country for the rest of his/her life without being discovered.

We simply do not have the processes/resources/personnel to secure our country.

Are our international borders well policed?
Are our forest areas mapped and secured?
Do our police stations now have computer records for their daily operations that is synchronised to a national server?
Do our police have access to police controlled DNA and autopsy services?
Do we now have a fingerprint database?
Do we have CCTVs installed in public spaces and on major roads?
Do we have a facial recognition system?
Are our intelligence services alive to their duties and reporting all they see and hear in the different communities, public/private and illegal organisations they are embedded?
What is the compensation structure for our security services and what family support is provided in the event of death while on active duty?


Until we can re-jig the above, the best we will get is the typical "while commiting the crime, a combined team of security personnel stormed the scene, the gunmen were dislodged and given a hot pursuit as they escaped with varying degree of injuries"

Hot pursuit will remain our greatest security achievement. No pre-emptive or captive.

Too bad!!

How can we have it when the security is centralised ? Or when those thieves in Nass is taking 30% of our national budget.

We don't have security in Nigeria. This is the reality.

Cheap military drones is what this country need,not outdated/expensive fighter jets. The forests need to be under 24 hours surveillance. The people running this country have a 1950s mindset,they need a brain update.

Fvck you and all your cronies, with all the money una use we should have gotten everything on deck, security and all.

Bayelsaowel : "it seems our government execute projects without proper planning..and when I say proper planning I am also talking about adequate risk assessment across both the technical and non technical spectrum, assessing all risk categories..

Our government is annoying..we need very young smart chaps in government.."

You are 100% correct!
You cannot have the president of a country without education and expect something good to come out of him. Never! Education of our leaders matter. Research shows that people who graduated from college or University are more likely to succeed than those who did not. So, if president Buhari was educated, he would never have appointed someone like Mr. Amaechi into his cabinet. That is why Buhari has failed Nigeria .

eeetuk:
Bayelsaowel : "it seems our government execute projects without proper planning..and when I say proper planning I am also talking about adequate risk assessment across both the technical and non technical spectrum, assessing all risk categories..

Our government is annoying..we need very young smart chaps in government.."

You are 100% correct!
You cannot have the president of a country without education and expect something good to come out of him. Never! Education of our leaders matter. Research shows that people who graduated from college or University are more likely to succeed than those who did not. So, if president Buhari was educated, he would never have appointed someone like Mr. Amaechi into his cabinet. That is why Buhari has failed Nigeria .

Not only the leadership... even the rank and file. Give them proper and adequate training.

A typical Nigerian soldier and police does not know how to use a walker-talkie. I am saying this from experience. I had 4 of them from Beecroft guarding a vessel. Provided them with cheap Baoteng coms kit. They could not use it. They could not communicate with one another. It’s pathetic!

BeeBeeOoh:
***As 8 Persons Die, 25 Injure In Abuja-Kaduna Train Bomb Blast



https://independent.ng/amaechi-laments-lack-of-high-tech-equipment-for-railways-security/

If government can't provide what you need to function as a Minister, why not resign instead of wailing to cover incompetency

I kno some will attack Amechi not because they hate corrupt leaders but because he is rumoured to be the spoiler for Tinubu.

Amechi is not serious.Even if the camera can pick 700m, how would that stop a bomb from detonating?
The way these "bandits" are going, I know they'd have drones sef.

By the way, I thought we get Satellite that time.
Why can't we monitor our rail lines?

So no arrangements to protect the Passengers.

Owagbeba:" Not only the leadership... even the rank and file. Give them proper and adequate training.

A typical Nigerian soldier and police does not know how to use a walker-talkie. I am saying this from experience. I had 4 of them from Beecroft guarding a vessel. Provided them with cheap Baoteng coms kit. They could not use it. They could not communicate with one another. It’s pathetic!"

Owagbeba,
I believe you 100%.
Education matters!
Why?
Education allows you to make good decision. Education allows you to recruit skilled personnel to do the job. Education prepares people for current and future work-- which is more and more technological designed. That is why our leaders should be educated so that they make the right decision for us. So, I urge you and others to spread the word!

imagine what this minister is saying

Amaechi wants to cash out! Nigerian leaders, ministers, politicians and policy makers are evil! EVIL in capital letters! Didn’t Amaechi see in China how train tacks are protected with barricade and razor meshes? Honestly, Nigeria is on a free cruise. And it WILL continue this way until Nigerians wake up from their mumu-ism!

alsudan:
Baba wan cash out in the name of procurement of Security Technology.

Na the Camera go engage the terrorists when the site them 100 meters away naa. Useless APC

What does it take to comb the forests in the North to get rid of these rag tags.

the camera or sensor will not engage the army but it will give an advanced warning to the train and the driver will stop or it will return to base.

It's actually a painful occurrence to Amechi because this is the same railway he wanted to use to campaign.

Anointed Candidate indeed.

KaluwisxPRO:
Nigga, if there’s Traffic, the service will run itself. It is the same with road traffic, the North does not have as much travelers as other part of the country. The only time Northerners travel is to emigrate.

Most Northern road users are there for purchase of goods to other parts of the country.

I don’t need to waste my data doing research that you’ve already done where countries run train at losses. Mumu man, you don’t know what the demand of supply means, if there’s more traffic, price is supposed to reduce with full coaches at most pickup terminals.

Provide those data or STFU with your terroristic info.

Toh...

Southerners that travel very well...
Why is Lagos Ibadan railway and warri itakpe railway not generating more money to sustain it self..remember these two lines are over 612km in total in the south as against just 186km in the north..
Lagos ibadan is a double track (156km * 2)
Warri itakpe is a single track of over 300km..

Now tell me why those two lines with Southerners Dat travel enough are not generating enough.. And why does NRC still tap from government budget to keep running it services..

If u cant answer this simple question then ur very stupid..

Since u have turn the issue to north against south..ode

KaluwisxPRO:
How much does the route generate to spend such on digital surveillance equipment? How much will the Human Resources that will Mann the surveillance cost?

You built a track in a terrorists infested region with low traffic, and wants to spend more to maintain a loss? Who swear for Nigeria no go ever rest for this life and the next.

I always knew it was a white elephant project.

This government didn't study what they call SCALE OF IMPORTANCE in Economics.

There were more important areas to look into rather than such high capital investments.

1. Alternative means of revenue beside crude

2. High investment on crops and food sector, to avoid pandemic hunger.

3. Zero curruption/errors in Fuel and dollar sector.

Rather they spent trillions in railways.

Railway is not in top-10 most important things that should have consumed trillions.


Buhari just used all these railway investments to settle Amaechi for all his money he used to get him into president-sit.

Throwback:
All my life before the advent of boko haram, I had always known that Nigeria did not have any security apparatus.

What we have is a gra gra apparatus.

Anyone non-Nigerian who is wanted can easily enter Nigeria and live comfortably in this country for the rest of his/her life without being discovered.

We simply do not have the processes/resources/personnel to secure our country.

Are our international borders well policed?
Are our forest areas mapped and secured?
Do our police stations now have computer records for their daily operations that is synchronised to a national server?
Do our police have access to police controlled DNA and autopsy services?
Do we now have a fingerprint database?
Do we have CCTVs installed in public spaces and on major roads?
Do we have a facial recognition system?
Are our intelligence services alive to their duties and reporting all they see and hear in the different communities, public/private and illegal organisations they are embedded?
What is the compensation structure for our security services and what family support is provided in the event of death while on active duty?


Until we can re-jig the above, the best we will get is the typical "while commiting the crime, a combined team of security personnel stormed the scene, the gunmen were dislodged and given a hot pursuit as they escaped with varying degree of injuries"

Hot pursuit will remain our greatest security achievement. No pre-emptive or captive.

Too difficult and expensive, much easier shouting, "Buhari, Afonja, Coming elections, this Contraption, Failed State, Cone Head, Flat Head,Hell-hole, Divide this Nation , VillagePeople!"

You know another expensive thing we can do but that will save us money in the long run? Review the current plans for the rest of the upcoming railways to include laying the lines on elevated earth as well as fencing along entire routs. Pave the land between the elevated lines and fencing. Let us at the very least aim to place difficulties in front of Deviants. Flying helicopters and drones all day or even occasionally for the lifetime of the rail infrastructure, which is what it would take, is unsustainable.



We need to recognize and accept our circumstances as different to other nations in order that we not only modify processes and implementations to suit our conditions but embrace this as opportunity to be imaginative and trendsetting.

Na still Jonathan cause am? Na PDP start the project but steal the money to buy the complete facilities? This APC are like those very slimed and short people with cunning spirit. Biting you and at the same time telling you sorry. Cruel human being. Now which part cause am now? ANNP or SDP? Nonsense set of politicians.

Why investing a multimillion dollars project in a high risk security zone.

Giving excuses

qekng40:
A joke of a country


Imagine BAT to rule for another 8 years, Nigeria go turn Zimbabwe

Abeg this is getting stale. Quit the scaremongering. I bet you live in Lagos that is comparatively one of the safest States on Nigeria today, courtesy of BAT, and you're here talking rubbish.

Amaechi has demonstrated that he is not a leader with this cowardly statement
Instead of apologizing and taking responsibility he is talking rubbish. Just imagine what the idiot is saying

You are part of a team and must take responsibility for the success and failure of your team

There is no evidence that the equipment would have stopped this and if he believed that why did he not resign if his request was not approved ?
How is this idiotic statement useful to the families of those killed?
3 billion? Why were there no armed men on the train?

Israel has armed men on all their planes

That is the obvious solution in addition to patrols

What really is the job of DSS apart from harassing Buhari's critics?

Were there no armed men when Aisha Buhari use the train
Would it cost 3 billion to do that in one year?