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China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 10:06am On Apr 08, 2022
The old economic order, in which the dollar's centrality to global trade remains king, is beginning to fade. The latest example of the dollar's demise comes as China purchases coal and oil from Russia in yuan due to Western sanctions isolating Russian banks from the SWIFT payment system.

Chinese commodity firms purchased Russian coal in local currency in March, and the first shipments are expected to arrive in China this month, according to Bloomberg, citing Chinese consultancy Fenwei Energy Information Service Co. Traders said this coal shipment paid in yuan would be the first since the U.S. and Europe unleashed harsh sanctions severing some top Russian banks from SWIFT.

Traders are also reporting Russian crude bought in yuan. The first Eastern Siberia Pacific Ocean grade crude shipment will arrive at Chinese refiners in May.




Russia and China trading yuan for commodities is just one example of a new emerging economic order.

Premium subs should recall former N.Y. Fed repo guru and current Credit Suisse strategist Zoltan Pozsar's stunning note last week that said the consequences of the Ukraine war are ushering in "the birth of the Bretton Woods III - a new world (monetary) order centered around commodity-based currencies in the East that will likely weaken the Eurodollar system and also contribute to inflationary forces in the west."

Fast forwarding to the punchline, Poszar wrote that if the framework he has laid out previously (and again, in his latest note) is the right framework to think about how to trade interest rates in coming years, inflation will be higher; the level of rates will be higher too; demand for commodity reserves will be higher, which will naturally replace demand for FX reserves (Treasuries and other G7 claims); Meanwhile, demand for dollars will be lower too as more trade will be done in other currencies; and as a result of this, the perennially negative cross-currency basis (the dollar premium) will naturally fade away and potentially become a positive cross-currency basis.

Translation: the dollar is on its way out as the world's undisputed reserve currency, a consequences of events that put in motion when Putin invaded Ukraine (with the implicit blessing of China and India) and when the West decided to expel Russia from the entire western financial system.

It is this chain of events that Pozsar calls Bretton Woods III and the reports of China's purchases of oil and coal in yuan (not dollars) suggesting the path to that new world order is accelerating faster that many hoped (as the surge in the Ruble may also suggest).

Pozsar spoke with Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway this week and recited his Bretton Woods III thesis, suggesting:

"Instead of a Volcker moment, we got a Putin moment and we basically have war and out of this war, something will also emerge.

"Out of this, I think this 'Bretton Woods III' that I started to kind of develop and run with, is a world where we are, again, going to go back to commodity-backed money — where gold, once again, is going to play a big role. And not just gold, but I think all forms of commodities," Pozsar said.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bretton-woods-iii-china-begins-buying-russian-coal-and-oil-yuan


For those who claim China are backing away from Russian commodities grin

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by MangekyoAlt: 10:38am On Apr 08, 2022
Bad news for SCAmericans

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Horus(m): 11:22am On Apr 08, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZXoJ0xL9WM

China uses Yuan to pay for Russian coal and oil.
The Petro Dollar is bypassed.
Bad news for the US

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by sapientia(m): 11:24am On Apr 08, 2022
I read the first sentence and immediately rushed to source

grin grin grin grin

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Adexnas145: 11:52am On Apr 08, 2022
China plans is working….

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Horus(m): 12:42pm On Apr 08, 2022
Bad news for the US grin
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by VictorUSA(m): 12:48pm On Apr 08, 2022
Cheap propaganda.Trusted source has it that China avoided buying Russian oil despite heavy discount.
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 12:49pm On Apr 08, 2022
paafin:
The old economic order, in which the dollar's centrality to global trade remains king, is beginning to fade. The latest example of the dollar's demise comes as China purchases coal and oil from Russia in yuan due to Western sanctions isolating Russian banks from the SWIFT payment system.

Chinese commodity firms purchased Russian coal in local currency in March, and the first shipments are expected to arrive in China this month, according to Bloomberg, citing Chinese consultancy Fenwei Energy Information Service Co. Traders said this coal shipment paid in yuan would be the first since the U.S. and Europe unleashed harsh sanctions severing some top Russian banks from SWIFT.

Traders are also reporting Russian crude bought in yuan. The first Eastern Siberia Pacific Ocean grade crude shipment will arrive at Chinese refiners in May.




Russia and China trading yuan for commodities is just one example of a new emerging economic order.

Premium subs should recall former N.Y. Fed repo guru and current Credit Suisse strategist Zoltan Pozsar's stunning note last week that said the consequences of the Ukraine war are ushering in "the birth of the Bretton Woods III - a new world (monetary) order centered around commodity-based currencies in the East that will likely weaken the Eurodollar system and also contribute to inflationary forces in the west."

Fast forwarding to the punchline, Poszar wrote that if the framework he has laid out previously (and again, in his latest note) is the right framework to think about how to trade interest rates in coming years, inflation will be higher; the level of rates will be higher too; demand for commodity reserves will be higher, which will naturally replace demand for FX reserves (Treasuries and other G7 claims); Meanwhile, demand for dollars will be lower too as more trade will be done in other currencies; and as a result of this, the perennially negative cross-currency basis (the dollar premium) will naturally fade away and potentially become a positive cross-currency basis.

Translation: the dollar is on its way out as the world's undisputed reserve currency, a consequences of events that put in motion when Putin invaded Ukraine (with the implicit blessing of China and India) and when the West decided to expel Russia from the entire western financial system.

It is this chain of events that Pozsar calls Bretton Woods III and the reports of China's purchases of oil and coal in yuan (not dollars) suggesting the path to that new world order is accelerating faster that many hoped (as the surge in the Ruble may also suggest).

Pozsar spoke with Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway this week and recited his Bretton Woods III thesis, suggesting:

"Instead of a Volcker moment, we got a Putin moment and we basically have war and out of this war, something will also emerge.

"Out of this, I think this 'Bretton Woods III' that I started to kind of develop and run with, is a world where we are, again, going to go back to commodity-backed money — where gold, once again, is going to play a big role. And not just gold, but I think all forms of commodities," Pozsar said.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bretton-woods-iii-china-begins-buying-russian-coal-and-oil-yuan


For those who claim China are backing away from Russian commodities grin



Why not buying them with Ruble? Why yuan?
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by GIdiata(m): 1:01pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


Why not buying them with Ruble? Why yuan?

China wey see opportunity to take advantage to strengthen their Yuan. wetin u expect?
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 1:27pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


Why not buying them with Ruble? Why yuan?

China is not an enemy state.

Only Enemy states will pay in Rubles..

Friendly states can pay in whatever form they choose but not in Dollars or Euro.

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 1:28pm On Apr 08, 2022
VictorUSA:
Cheap propaganda.Trusted source has it that China avoided buying Russian oil despite heavy discount.

Let's see your source grin

Hope it's not an unnamed Reuters source grin grin
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 1:30pm On Apr 08, 2022
paafin:


China is not an enemy state.

Only Enemy states will pay in Rubles..

Friendly states can pay in whatever form they choose but not in Dollars or Euro.

China stills trade International in dollar but buying from Russia in yuan is to strengthen yuan against Ruble.
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 1:32pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


China stills trade International in dollar but buying from Russia in yuan is to strengthen yuan against Ruble.

Buying with Yuan with equivalent to the value of Gold..

Russia made more money grin

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by MangekyoAlt: 1:36pm On Apr 08, 2022
paafin:


Let's see your source grin

Hope it's not an unnamed Reuters source grin grin
The guy is a fool grin grin grin
He will give you Reuters and when you go on the read it, you'll notice that Reuters does not cite any source. They just put together articles and ditch out to gullible people

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 2:02pm On Apr 08, 2022
MangekyoAlt:

The guy is a fool grin grin grin
He will give you Reuters and when you go on the read it, you'll notice that Reuters does not cite any source. They just put together articles and ditch out to gullible people

The guy can't even find the Reuters source grin grin

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 2:13pm On Apr 08, 2022
paafin:


Buying with Yuan with equivalent to the value of Gold..

Russia made more money grin


How did dollar become reserve currency? Gold factor. USA had highest gold reserve then. Which country has highest gold reserve now? USA.
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 2:21pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


How did dollar become reserve currency? Gold factor. USA had highest gold reserve then. Which country has highest gold reserve now? USA.

Russia is getting there soon grin

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 2:42pm On Apr 08, 2022
paafin:


Russia is getting there soon grin

International order does work that way.

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by gambojimeta: 2:49pm On Apr 08, 2022
Why not rubbles grin

Chinese man and cunniness. Awoof no go kill china

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Horus(m): 2:55pm On Apr 08, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCI-JdOpAuA

China Wont Sanction Russia, Confirms Won’t Stop Trade With Russia​
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Svlla: 4:53pm On Apr 08, 2022
It's strategic I think

Russia has a yuan reserve but needs to build on it if it's going to trade massively with China amidst western sanctions, it only makes sense to have ample yuan reserve.

Russia is known to have trade surplus due to its high export over imports but most of its imports are from the West. although considerably low, Russia still imports from west and western align countries more but after this sanctions regime I see Russia turning to the east for its imports.

Russia will need Chinese imports more than it will export to China in coming years.

There will be balance trade between Russia and India in Rouble and Rupee

And trade with EU will be in Rouble

So it's fair for Russia whether they trade with China in Yuan or in Rouble as long as it isn't dollars

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Biodun556(m): 5:01pm On Apr 08, 2022

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 5:11pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


International order does work that way.

International orders are for slaves and puppets!
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by paafin(m): 5:14pm On Apr 08, 2022
gambojimeta:
Why not rubbles grin

Chinese man and cunniness. Awoof no go kill china

China is a friendly state..

Only Enemy states are forced to trade with Rubles..

Russia will pay in Rubles or Yen when importing from China..

Same economic development is also being worked for Indian rupees..

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Drenimarcus(m): 7:00pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


How did dollar become reserve currency? Gold factor. USA had highest gold reserve then. Which country has highest gold reserve now? USA.

Sorry Fort Knox is out of gold, Nixon changed this, why do you think it is called petrodollar when they signed the deal with the Saudis?

https://bulliontp.medium.com/1971-nixon-and-the-end-of-the-gold-standard-c43ff69221ad
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 7:32pm On Apr 08, 2022
paafin:


International orders are for slaves and puppets!

Whether you like it or not, there are international orders. It may be unipolar, bipolar or multipolar. Each has its merit and demerit.
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 7:33pm On Apr 08, 2022
Drenimarcus:


Sorry Fort Knox is out of gold, Nixon changed this, why do you think it is called petrodollar when they signed the deal with the Saudis?

https://bulliontp.medium.com/1971-nixon-and-the-end-of-the-gold-standard-c43ff69221ad

USA still has highest gold reserve now.
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by atiku07(m): 8:29pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


USA still has highest gold reserve now.

stolen gold u mean

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 8:34pm On Apr 08, 2022
atiku07:


stolen gold u mean

Stolen from you?

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Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Drenimarcus(m): 8:51pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


USA still has highest gold reserve now.

Ah didn't see the post, yes we do but the gold isn't tied to the dollar anymore. Apologies.
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by joyandfaith: 8:52pm On Apr 08, 2022
Drenimarcus:


Ah didn't see the post, yes we do but the gold isn't tied to the dollar anymore. Apologies.

Bretton Woods institutions
Re: China Begins Buying Russian Coal And Oil In Yuan by Drenimarcus(m): 8:57pm On Apr 08, 2022
joyandfaith:


Bretton Woods institutions

Yeah! You seem educated about America but your views are flawed. You know this war started and was financed by the US since 2014 right?

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