Android22:
Jesus is a positionless player. Just like Julian Alvarez (new City signing from River Plate) is one as well. Because Palmeiras used Jesus as a striker does not mean that is why he was signed. Anyone who is trying to have a meaningful debate on this topic should first concede that Pep likes players like that. This is different from Haaland that City is trying to sign as a striker. That is why even after signing Alvarez, City are still going all out for Haaland.

Let us assume that Haaland comes and is not playing the striker role the way Pep wants and he starts using Alvarez there, that does not mean Alvarez was signed to compete with Haaland.

How do you mean Jesus is a positionless player? First time I've heard such a thing as such.

Your explanation is like saying laporte who's a CB in his previous club, signed and played as a CB in Manchester city isn't a CB because of bla bla bla.

Jesus was a striker at palmeiras, won accolades there and came to upsurp Aguero as a striker. That it didn't work out down the years doesn't mean we've forgotten the genesis of everything.

This is like someone saying Newcastle didn't sign joelington as a striker because he's playing midfield now.

donstan18:

He’s a top9.

Stop the cap.

He plays LW, RW and ST/CF. He even played as both LW and RW on some occasions while in Palmeiras. You can't teach me anything about my team. You people forget that Fabregas was used as false 9 by this same manager when he was in Barcelona. lol.

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Android22:
He plays LW, RW and ST/CF. He even played as both LW and RW on some occasions while in Palmeiras. You can't teach me anything about my team. You people forget that Fabregas was used as false 9 by this same manager when he was in Barcelona. lol.

Your team indeed.

You know nothing about ManCity.

Stop embarrassing yourself here. Gab Jesus Na top9.

AnfieldFan:
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I knew it. We know who figured out the other

Itsrm:


Let's look at the last 6 matches, looks more like Klopp figured Pep out.

Android22:
And nobody is saying that about Grealish because they watched Grealish in Aston Villa. If you are being honest, you'd agree that any time City have not won a game this season or maybe they did not score, people have come out to say the manager should have gone all out for Kane rather than waste 100M on Grealish. Almost as if they are saying the signing of Grealish threatened the signing of Kane.

This is different thing from our discourse.
Grealish wasn't signed as a striker weda we know him at Aston villa or not or weda he was bought for 100m or not.

I don't need to watch a player to know where he plays or not, that's why we're in a digital age know that. For example most people is talking about Darwin Nunez as the next big striker in almost every thread. But I can bet that almost all of us haven't watched 90% of benfica games. That's how easy internet has made it easy for us to know who's who.

Jodera:
How do you mean Jesus is a positionless player? First time I've heard such a thing as such.

Your explanation is like saying laporte who's a CB in his previous club, signed and played as a CB in Manchester city isn't a CB because of bla bla bla.

Jesus was a striker at palmeiras, won accolades there and came to upsurp Aguero as a striker. That it didn't work out down the years doesn't mean we've forgotten the genesis of everything.

This is like someone saying Newcastle didn't sign joelington as a striker because he's playing midfield now.

Positionless means he can play many positions. Jesus played LW, LWF, RW, RWF, CF for Palmeiras and he has done same for City as well. But every player has individual qualities that differentiate them from others. For e.g Jesus is very good at pressing,and closing down but even though his positioning or finishing may not be as good as Sergio's the manager might prefer him to play as that CF over Aguero because he wants his CF in a game to join in the press. That does not mean he was signed to compete with Aguero.

popizaino:


Don't toll this path, not especially with a guy who form professor on things he knows little or nothing about.

Nahhh... There are some miseducations that needs to be nipped in the bud before it becomes "truth".

With the way andr.oid, Andrewb.aba and god.x take talk that thing, e go just turn truth for here and before you know some others fit pick am up

donstan18:

Your team indeed.

You know nothing about ManCity.

Stop embarrassing yourself here. Gab Jesus Na top9.

hahahaha. Is Mbappe a top 9 as well?

Android22:
He plays LW, RW and ST/CF. He even played as both LW and RW on some occasions while in Palmeiras. You can't teach me anything about my team. You people forget that Fabregas was used as false 9 by this same manager when he was in Barcelona. lol.

You see why I told you to redirect that advice to yourself,I mean this your advice  have told you before that sometimes it is wiser to stop digging when you are in a ditch. Will fabregas be considered for false 9 role if he was able to displace any of xavi, iniesta busquest from the midfield? Most especially xavi............. I think at this point you need to call your other idiotic fellow Godx to come with more insane point to remove from the ditch you dug for yourself.

Jodera:
This is different thing from our discourse.
Grealish wasn't signed as a striker weda we know him at Aston villa or not or weda he was bought for 100m or not.

I don't need to watch a player to know where he plays or not, that's why we're in a digital age know that. For example most people is talking about Darwin Nunez as the next big striker in almost every thread. But I can bet that almost all of us haven't watched 90% of benfica games. That's how easy internet has made it easy for us to know who's who.

Ibime:


It was here that Dayo told us Aguero is finished because he can't press like Jesus

Yeah, and it was used against dayo when Aguero regained his spot back and start pumping goals

How people wey follow man city didn't know Jesus was signed to threaten/replace man city is surprising

popizaino:



You see why I told you to redirect that advice to yourself,I mean this your advice  have told you before that sometimes it is wiser to stop digging when you are in a ditch. Will fabregas be considered for false 9 role if he was able to displace any of xavi, iniesta busquest from the midfield? Most especially xavi............. I think at this point you need to call your other idiotic fellow Godx to come with more insane point to remove from the ditch you dug for yourself.

Your question is brainless. Fabregas may have been used in the false 9 position because he knows how to drop into the half spaces and give through balls, and score better than Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets. Did you consider that?

Is it not here that many Chelsea fans have even said Alonso should be used as a striker for your team? Is it because he cannot play the LB or LWB position or that in some games you guys feel he is more clinical than some of your forwards?

Android22:
Jesus is a positionless player. Just like Julian Alvarez (new City signing from River Plate) is one as well.

Because Palmeiras used Jesus as a striker does not mean that is why he was signed

This doesn't make sense one bit. Totally pointless and baseless.

Android22:
Positionless means he can play many positions. Jesus played LW, LWF, RW, RWF, CF for Palmeiras and he has done same for City as well. But every player has individual qualities that differentiate them from others. For e.g Jesus is very good at pressing,and closing down but even though his positioning or finishing may not be as good as Sergio's the manager might prefer him to play as that CF over Aguero because he wants his CF in a game to join in the press. That does not mean he was signed to compete with Aguero.

That he's versatile doesn't mean he's positionless like you put it. He's primary position is striking while other positions are his secondary position. No elite footballer is positionless.

Now If a supposed young striker was signed and he benched the striker he met, what is that?

Or didn't you read where I said Aguero was consigned to the bench during Jesus' first few weeks??

Jodera:
This is different thing from our discourse.
Grealish wasn't signed as a striker weda we know him at Aston villa or not or weda he was bought for 100m or not.

Then maybe you don't understand the implications of your own argument. I never said Grealish was signed as a striker. I am showing you how the City manager said he sees certain qualities in Grealish that motivates him to play Grealish as a false 9. That does not mean Grealish was signed to compete with Jesus or Kane. That was my point.

In a bid to always sound clever, the chronic debtor came up with a new term positionless player as if Big Benz can't play across all the attacking line but still called a striker.

DumaEmpire:
This doesn't make sense one bit. Totally pointless and baseless.

what does positionless player mean?

popizaino:

E reach to laugh oo my brother.

It's like someone telling me I can't know there's issue between Ukraine and Russia because I've not been there

Jodera:
That he's versatile doesn't mean he's positionless like you put it. He's primary position is striking while other positions are his secondary position. No elite footballer is positionless.

Now If a supposed young striker was signed and he benched the striker he met, what is that?

Or didn't you read where I said Aguero was consigned to the bench during Jesus' first few weeks??

That is why I am telling you you don't understand your own argument. Lukaku was not signed to compete with Harvertz for e.g. But Lukaku was not interpreting his role to the degree that Tuchel wanted so he started using Harvertz there to better results which relegated Lukaku to the bench. That does not mean Harvertz is a striker. Harvertz is another "positionless player".

Android22:
hahahaha. Is Mbappe a top 9 as well?

No, he’s a DM.

Jodera:
Yeah, and it was used against dayo when Aguero regained his spot back and start pumping goals

How people wey follow man city didn't know Jesus was signed to threaten/replace man city is surprising

When Aguero was benched he was scoring goals. In fact, Jesus scored less than Aguero in that stint but the manager still preferred him to Sergio because of the pressing.

Like I said before, you don't know the team or manager like you think. Your club legend Henry said it about Manchester City's manager. Henry scored a goal in the first half of a game but he was not playing the LWF role the way Pep wanted and he took him off. Same reason Zlatan never understood why Pep dropped him from the 9 position even though Zlatan was scoring goals for fun whilst playing there.

Android22:
Then maybe you don't understand the implications of your own argument. I never said Grealish was signed as a striker. I am showing you how the City manager said he sees certain qualities in Grealish that motivates him to play Grealish as a false 9. That does not mean Grealish was signed to compete with Jesus or Kane. That was my point.

You're the one confusing yourself by going away from the basics. The basics is , is grealish a striker? Yes or no? Whether he plays that position or not is another different discourse entirely.

Jesus was A STRIKER, WAS SIGNED A STRIKER, HE DISPLACED A STRIKER AND PLAYED THE STRIKING ROLE and that's the koko. Any other thing you wanna twist na kole werk

Jodera:
That he's versatile doesn't mean he's positionless like you put it. He's primary position is striking while other positions are his secondary position. No elite footballer is positionless.

Now If a supposed young striker was signed and he benched the striker he met, what is that?

Or didn't you read where I said Aguero was consigned to the bench during Jesus' first few weeks??

The guy dey cap nonsense.... Firmino at Liverpool was signed as an AM but there's no how u can come and tell anyone that he is not a top 9 now, even jota did not play top 9 at wolves but is playing it at Liverpool talkless of someone bought as a top 9... following that line we can still argue that Liverpool has no striker na...

Android22:
what does positionless player mean?

Versatility is the word. Positionless is like saying he doesn't have a position. That makes him no different from you.

Jesus is a striker who's versatile and can play both the wings and the 9.

But i'm more interested in the second paragraph of your speech. Makes zero sense cos i don't know which club or manager in his right senses would sign a striker only to convert him to a midfielder.

Jodera:
You're the one confusing yourself by going away from the basics. The basics is , is grealish a striker? Yes or no? Whether he plays that position or not is another different discourse entirely.

Jesus was A STRIKER, WAS SIGNED A STRIKER, HE DISPLACED A STRIKER AND PLAYED THE STRIKING ROLE and that's the koko. Any other thing you wanna twist na kole werk

From the beginning I already told you that you don't know the team and manager like you think. Zinchenko is not a LB and by your Grealish argument he was not signed as a LB yet that is where he has played for City 97% of the time that he was played. If you wanted to criticize Zinchenko's role in City will you do so based on his natural position of midfield or based on the role he plays for City? Yup. That is your answer.

Android22:
When Aguero was benched he was scoring goals. In fact, Jesus scored less than Aguero in that stint but the manager still preferred him to Sergio because of the pressing.

Like I said before, you don't know the team or manager like you think. Your club legend Henry said it about Manchester City's manager. Henry scored a goal in the first half of a game but he was not playing the LWF role the way Pep wanted and he took him off. Same reason Zlatan never understood why Pep dropped him from the 9 position even though Zlatan was scoring goals for fun whilst playing there.

So striker's don't press. Is that what you're saying?

Cos the issue here is that pep bought a striker that can press and have work rate which is one of his basics. Simple

All these one you're deviating to is another talk entirely. The koko is that you disputed that Jesus was not a Striker and he wasn't bought to replace Aguero. That's what I'm countering and not what pep likes or not

Roland17:


I use the tears drink “Ogi” this morning.

CAPdan21:

The guy dey cap nonsense.... Firmino at Liverpool was signed as an AM but there's no how u can come and tell anyone that he is not a top 9 now, even jota did not play top 9 at wolves but is playing it at Liverpool talkless of someone bought as a top 9... following that line we can still argue that Liverpool has no striker na...

Exactly. All these their talk is just to make Pep infallible as someone who's a god of soccer.

They thought because Jesus hardly plays there now we've forgotten his history of his Man city coming because it's over 3 years? Lol..

Kole werk

DumaEmpire:
Versatility is the word. Positionless is like saying he doesn't have a position. That makes him no different from you.

Jesus is a striker who's versatile and can play both the wings and the 9.

But i'm more interested in the second paragraph of your speech. Makes zero sense cos i don't know which club or manager in his right senses would sign a striker only to convert him to a midfielder.

Positionless means his designated position depends on the role the manager wants him to play on the day. You can say versatile and you'd be right but it is not exactly the same in every context. You will agree with me that Harry Kane is a striker right? But will you also agree that he plays as a 10 in some games. When he is playing as a striker that roams everywhere on the pitch he is showing his positionlessness. However when he plays as a 10 (only) in some games, he is showing his versatility.

Android22:
From the beginning I already told you that you don't know the team and manager like you think. Zinchenko is not a LB and by your Grealish argument he was not signed as a LB yet that is where he has played for City 97% of the time that he was played. If you wanted to criticize Zinchenko's role in City will you do so based on his natural position of midfield or based on the role he plays for City? Yup. That is your answer.

Was Zinchenko a known fullback? Same as Delph, was he a known fullback when he also played that position too?

Jesus was a known striker and he played such in his first season and you're saying another thing. Lol

So if Kane comes to Man city tomorrow and plays 9, you'll say he's not a striker because..?

I'm not even getting your logic again. Did Jesus predominantly play striker at palmeiras or not? Did he play that during his early days at Man city? If yes, how come is he a winger?

Android22:
Positionless means his designated position depends on the role the manager wants him to play on the day. You can say versatile and you'd be right but it is not exactly the same in every context. You will agree with me that Harry Kane is a striker right? But will you also agree that he plays as a 10 in some games. When he is playing as a striker that roams everywhere on the pitch he is showing his positionlessness. However when he plays as a 10 (only) in some games, he is showing his versatility.

can you bring any football source that defined this or is it just you that vetoed that definition??