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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 2:14pm On Apr 17, 2022
Aventures:
Our professional bodies are doing too little to prevent quackery in most fields and Government is not helping matters as well. As a matter of fact I have said it before [b]anybody with bUssiness acumen, strong wil and finniacial backbone can operate as a building contractor but it expedient that the fellow should ready to engage the services of professional in various field as either permanent staff or contract basis. [/b]I may not be a doctor t own a hospital I may built an hospital and be just a chairman and engage a medical director and all professional needed. But above all integrity, and professionalism is very important.

You've hit the nail on the head. Your take has been the bane of Brambus/Next over the years. Anyone can set up a building construction outfit, but like you said, they must engage the relevant qualified professionals.

With Brambus, he engages the everyday artisans/tradespeople and parades himself as the resident engineer which he doesn't have any requisite training or qualification. This is quackery and sophistry. This is a crime of false representation.

In this situation where the interpretation of the structural drawings is done by a pretender, it can't be certain the building will be structurally sound in whole or in part over time like you observed with terraces. This is endangering lives by experimentation through internet searches and research.

People should not be parading themselves in professions they are not qualified for. It is dangerous. People should not be giving "second chances" to unrepentant pretenders. Only God in their infinite mercies can do this. Unless they think they are God.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 2:29pm On Apr 17, 2022
Let me share this too.

I was invited to profer a solution to an ongoing build by the contractor.

The building was at the ground floor stage when the client requested that the living room be made bigger. During the alteration/modification of the drawing, a wall with a column was eliminated. They never got back to the structural engineer to redesign. When the formwork for the first floor was done, the site engineer who is a friend and a builder felt uncomfortable with the layout so he invited me to his site..

That building has two and half floors ( pent) and a supporting column in the middle of the building was removed. What a risky thing to do. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

We had to remove some formworks, break wall and introduce a new column elsewhere and also increase the rebars and size of the cantilever beam, to achieve what the client wants.

We need to be structurally alert while trying to satisfy our clients. Also a structural element has it's purpose , don't assume aesthetic is all that matters.

Get a second opinion if you think it's not right..

Safety first.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sethtsadopp: 2:32pm On Apr 17, 2022
By the way, I just received quotation from Electrician and Plumber. Find attached. What do you guys think. I think it's high o, especially labour (each of them - 150k). Your inputs will be very helpful abeg. This is just for Piping.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingdemu: 2:45pm On Apr 17, 2022
What kind of floor is in this compound pls? Stamped concrete?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:53pm On Apr 17, 2022
diordaves:


You've hit the nail on the head. Your take has been the bane of Brambus/Next over the years. Anyone can set up a building construction outfit, but like you said, they must engage the relevant qualified professionals.

With Brambus, he engages the everyday artisans/tradespeople and parades himself as the resident engineer which he doesn't have any requisite training or qualification. This is quackery and sophistry. This is a crime of false representation.

In this situation where the interpretation of the structural drawings is done by a pretender, it can't be certain the building will be structurally sound in whole or in part over time like you observed with terraces. This is endangering lives by experimentation through internet searches and research.

People should not be parading themselves in professions they are not qualified for. It is dangerous. People should not be giving "second chances" to unrepentant pretenders. Only God in their infinite mercies can do this. Unless they think they are God.

Smiles. I guess an everyday artisan/tradespeople prepared this drawing or probably recommended and conducted a NDT test just because we are going to add 1 supplemental column. Maybe I probably have to let you in all that’s happening behind the scene.

Share with your pros what an amateur is doing just because a change order was requested by a client and feel free to share with me a similar convo from any of your projects or your friends.

Have a merry Easter chairman!

__________

When it’s not fraud allegation, it’s he doesn’t engage professionals. When it’s not about professionals, it’s he doesn’t do anything on site.

How do you guys sleep sef?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:57pm On Apr 17, 2022
sethtsadopp:


LOL, interestingly one of them after they broke down the room, just yesterday said his wife said they have to put it up again. That she wamst aware of the decision her husband unilaterally took. After seeing our own, she said they just put back the room ASAP.

So we're at 60%? grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:14pm On Apr 17, 2022
Chairman Diordaves grin

On getting to the Nonuplets by NextHome, when we were handed the construction drawings, we noticed the structural guys has deliberately excluded some pages from the drawings.

Not only that, he expected us to mirror some drawings to work on similar designs that are adjacent.

I smiled and told the client “Based on the peculiarity of this project and site requirement, we will require 9 different drawings.”

So I beaconed to my structural guy [s](the one you called everyday artisan/tradespeople)[/s] to the site for onsite assessment and within the 6 weeks spent on the project, we delivered 6 new structural designs and 5 of the foundations were delivered and 4 raised to slab level within 5 weeks.

It won’t cost me anything to share the drawings we were presented and the 6 new structural drawings we delivered for you and your pros to see.

The structural engineer was physically on site for more than 3 weeks in Ìbàdàn. I’m sure someone who can produce 6 new structural drawings in less than 2 weeks is an everyday artisan in your bible.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 3:24pm On Apr 17, 2022
diordaves:


You've hit the nail on the head. Your take has been the bane of Brambus/Next over the years. Anyone can set up a building construction outfit, but like you said, they must engage the relevant qualified professionals.

With Brambus, he engages the everyday artisans/tradespeople and parades himself as the resident engineer which he doesn't have any requisite training or qualification. This is quackery and sophistry. This is a crime of false representation.

In this situation where the interpretation of the structural drawings is done by a pretender, it can't be certain the building will be structurally sound in whole or in part over time like you observed with terraces. This is endangering lives by experimentation through internet searches and research.

People should not be parading themselves in professions they are not qualified for. It is dangerous.

People should not be giving "second chances" to unrepentant pretenders. Only God in their infinite mercies can do this. Unless they think they are God
.

The bolded should be in the first page of this thread.

Please modify the statement; 'unrepentant pretenders'. It should be 'unrepentant pretenders and serial thieves'.

Also, the word 'unrepentant' can be eliminated because I don't think anyone on this thread is/was expecting the serial thief to repent.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:32pm On Apr 17, 2022
n3xt:


Smiles. I guess an everyday artisan/tradespeople prepared this drawing or probably recommended and conducted a NDT test just because we are going to add 1 supplemental column. Maybe I probably have to let you in all that’s happening behind the scene.

It’s not like they just make recommendations, we follow through. grin

https://youtube.com/shorts/TXU2u2ihp54?feature=share

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 3:39pm On Apr 17, 2022
sethtsadopp:
By the way, I just received quotation from Electrician and Plumber. Find attached. What do you guys think. I think it's high o, especially labour (each of them - 150k). Your inputs will be very helpful abeg. This is just for Piping.

Location and size of the building pls
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 3:39pm On Apr 17, 2022
Ilaro Poly Students Hostel.

Na so e easy to remove burglary and windows?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 3:40pm On Apr 17, 2022

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:46pm On Apr 17, 2022
Jummymine:
Hello everyone!Please where can I get Amoula pvc ceiling to buy in bulk?

You can contact Amoula Company directly.
Website: www.amoulaventuresltd.org

See their address and phone number below.

5/7, Morrison Crescent, off Oregun Road,
Alausa Ikeja Lagos NG, Alausa 100271,
Ikeja, Nigeria

PHONE AND EMAIL
08091462000 OR 07069984169
info@amoulaventuresltd.org

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:00pm On Apr 17, 2022
EgunMogaji2:
Ilaro Poly Students Hostel.

Na so e easy to remove burglary and windows?

Damn. Are these really well-done in the first place?

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 4:05pm On Apr 17, 2022
EgunMogaji2:
Ilaro Poly Students Hostel.

Na so e easy to remove burglary and windows?

This should be private hostel located in off campus

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingdemu: 4:06pm On Apr 17, 2022
Kingdemu:
What kind of floor is in this compound pls? Stamped concrete?
N3xt can you pls help with this? Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:44pm On Apr 17, 2022
Kingdemu:

N3xt can you pls help with this? Thanks

Those are outdoor porcelain tiles.

It’s not new but it’s finding its way back into our builds these days as a much more reliable and better alternative to the known and outdated flooring solutions. But the one in the image you shared is trendy especially with wood effect porcelain tiles + marble white porcelain tiles combo.

We had these installed in one of my build at Ajao Estate in 2012. The client shipped in all his tiles and they were used for the external floors.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:50pm On Apr 17, 2022
Edit:


I just checked. The one in my 2012 build had anti-slip porcelain tiles.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:50pm On Apr 17, 2022
Kingdemu:
What kind of floor is in this compound pls? Stamped concrete?

Some people I know uses outdoor tiles. And this look like one of it. It does not look like stamped concrete.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:56pm On Apr 17, 2022
There several options out there to explore.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sethtsadopp: 5:11pm On Apr 17, 2022
topsy23:


Location and size of the building pls

5 Bedroom Terrace, Abuja.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:12pm On Apr 17, 2022
Lessons from the bunny.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 5:32pm On Apr 17, 2022
sethtsadopp:


5 Bedroom Terrace, Abuja.

Single floor ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:34pm On Apr 17, 2022
Closet ideas for those on budget

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 6:12pm On Apr 17, 2022
EgunMogaji2:
Ilaro Poly Students Hostel.

Na so e easy to remove burglary and windows?

Two possiblities

1) low quality work
2) the break in is aided by artisans, possibly same artisans who built the place

We had a home invasion sometime in 1998 or so. This was when I was still living with my folks. We were alerted to the thieves and were shouting ole ole. This had always worked before (ilorin) once thieves see you are alerted, they run.

Not this time. They broke through the burglar proofing like it was Swiss cheese. I remeber being so shocked at the time as good money had been paid for it.

After the incident the same fucking ediat who had built the house came and started saying we should have used a different type of burglar proofing. Useless fking bastard.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:48pm On Apr 17, 2022
sethtsadopp:
By the way, I just received quotation from Electrician and Plumber. Find attached. What do you guys think. I think it's high o, especially labour (each of them - 150k). Your inputs will be very helpful abeg. This is just for Piping.
where is your location?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 6:51pm On Apr 17, 2022
cool
Jummymine:
Hello everyone!Please where can I get Amoula pvc ceiling to buy in bulk?
good evening sir and happy Easter, well my neighbour sales it here at Odun-ade with wholesale price

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sethtsadopp: 6:52pm On Apr 17, 2022
topsy23:


Single floor ?

Two floors.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sethtsadopp: 6:53pm On Apr 17, 2022
twinskenny:
where is your location?

Abuja
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 7:20pm On Apr 17, 2022
Kingdemu:
What kind of floor is in this compound pls? Stamped concrete?
i think what is there is wood porcelain tile rough face with marbler design 60x60 porcelain tile rough face well

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olusojisorunmu(m): 7:53pm On Apr 17, 2022
folmus:


We don't need due diligence niyen if Baba EgunMogaji and Hajji M can recommend him grin grin

Trust me you don't.

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