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Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by AkinwaleJJ(f): 8:27pm On Apr 26, 2022
Gointo:
pls sir,why do you need to qoute old testament to verify the new convenant. pls sir pay attention to what our LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID,exult it high...he said the word that i speak unto you are spirit and life...your life will be transformed forever ..AMEN
Answer to the highlighted questions!

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17

So we need the Old Testament to authenticate what Jesus said in the New Testament! smiley
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Gointo: 9:46pm On Apr 26, 2022
AkinwaleJJ:
Answer to the highlighted questions!

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17

So we need the Old Testament to authenticate what Jesus said in the New Testament! smiley
the case of rahab is not the law LORD JESUS CHRIST said will be fulfilled in him..so your qoutation of that scripture is useless..GOODNIGTH SIR
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Ken4Christ: 10:18pm On Apr 26, 2022
Gointo:
ken4christ may God prune you to become more fruitful in his vineyard.Amen..

I also practiced religion until by the grace of Christ I became truthful to myself. .
if you want to know someone practicing religion ,they don't believe the scripture that says ,you will be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect...
The problem starts when many preacher will preach repentance and holiness without talking about being born again,which means spiritual rebirth..
the way religious houses preach born again,is why many people..
try to live holy by human fleshly effort and call it being born again. .
The irony is that it will always fail..
the lust(nature) is still in the heart and have not been removed..
many people think one has sinned until the action had been carried out, no right from the time it's conceived in the heart the sin has been committed. .

I also struggled until I asked God for help me to live holy,
I hungered for his holy spirit. .
and I was Baptisted after persistent seeking in my bedroom for months..I gave God the glory. ..
all we need to do is just ditch religion and surrender to the ministry of the holyspirit..which is absence in many religious houses.
maxindhouse over to you.
Thank you.
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Sixfiguresmart(m): 10:30am On Apr 27, 2022
Ken4Christ:
Your organization, Jehovah Witness has lured much people to hell through his deceptive and demonic teachings. One evidence of your deception is that you only pick verses of scriptures that appears to support your pre conceived opinions and ignore many others that clearly contradicts it. It's unfortunate you are one of the brainwashed captive. I pray that innocent souls will not fall for your lies. I will soon release 100 lies of Jehovah Witness from your own publication that contradicts the Bible. I feel so sorry for you because you don't know the doom that awaits all of you.

Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:53am On Apr 27, 2022
Gointo:
the case of rahab is not the law LORD JESUS CHRIST said will be fulfilled in him..so your qoutation of that scripture is useless..GOODNIGTH SIR
So in your own PERSONAL opinion Rahab who was DECLARED RIGHTEOUS in God's word {James 2:25} even by apostle Paul who is a confirmed Born Again Christian {Hebrews 11:30-31} should not be accepted as being RIGHTEOUS, Shey?

Your pigheadedness doesn't change the fact that people were DECLARED RIGHTEOUS before Jesus and they were never Born Again! wink
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:18pm On Apr 27, 2022
AkinwaleJJ:
Exactly the same problem most Churchgoers have with Jehovah's Witnesses!
This is one of the things i heard from Jehovah's Witnesses that lightened up my interest in the organization.
Most of you already had preconceived judgment against them, your pastors knew all these that's why they'll tell you never to listen to them, in most cases those pastors will tell you things that totally contradicts what Jesus taught for example "if anyone comes to you in the name of God ask him/her to pray first" whereas Jesus never prayed with his followers until he is convinced that they've accepted his teachings! John 17:8-9

So instead of listening to their messages you will start asking them questions in line with the things your religious thought you but when they maintain their stand on what the REALLY teach you will begin labelling them CULT, DEMONIC, EVIL, ANTICHRIST and so on.

Ken4Christ only want to here the OP say "you must be born again" so no matter how sound and scriptural the write-up as long as it doesn't correlates with what Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi and co are saying, to Ken4Christ this same write-up you're commending is "lies from the pit of hell" smiley

From MaxInDHouse:
Lol... I don't actually completely disagree with them. They some things that they do that agree with scripture like evangelism and so on...But even you have to admit that most of their doctrines are unscriptural... Like the fact that they believe that Jesus is the same as Michael the Archangel and so on..
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:18pm On Apr 27, 2022
Ken4Christ:
How can one turn away from sin when it's our nature to sin? If we could turn away from our sins, then we do not need Christ.
So you're saying an unbeliever can't do good?
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Ken4Christ: 12:24pm On Apr 27, 2022
Hismasterpiece:
So you're saying an unbeliever can't do good?
Off course he can do good. Some even do good in the sight of men more than those who are born again. But the fact remains that they are still sinners. They have no relationship with God. The nature of sin has to be removed first. And this is done by accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour.
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:54pm On Apr 27, 2022
Hismasterpiece:
Lol... I don't actually completely disagree with them. They some things that they do that agree with scripture like evangelism and so on...But even you have to admit that most of their doctrines are unscriptural... Like the fact that they believe that Jesus is the same as Michael the Archangel and so on..
The first century Jewish disciples agreed with everything Jesus said not because they perfectly understood it all but it's working out BENEFITS in their gathering. The same thing is applicable to JWs, I accepted everything they taught me not because i understood it all but because it's working out BENEFITS among their members throughout the world! Matthew 7:16-18


So speak for yourself Sir i believe everything JWs taught me! smiley
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Kobojunkie: 3:48pm On Apr 27, 2022
Ibomrep:
God's kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that will replace all human Government. Daniel 2:44
2Thessalonians 1 : 6-8
It's a real government with all characteristic.
It's made up of the following :
(1) Seat of Power
Heaven is the seat of power of God's kingdom.
(3) The King
Jehovah God appointed Jesus Christ his son as the king of his kingdom.
Daniel 7: 13,14. Matthew 11 : 28-30. Hebrew 10 : 12, 13
(4) Co-rulers
Just like human government in which a king, Governor, or president doesn't rule alone. Some people will rule with Jesus.
Revelation 5:9,10. Revelation 14 :1-4
Jesus apostles were the first set of people that God choose from Earth that will rule with Jesus.
John 14:1-3, Corinthians 15: 42-44
These aren't facts but doctrines that belong to your particular sect, and nothing more. undecided

For one, Jesus Christ said the Kingdom of God is not of this world yet over and over you keep suggesting instead that it is. So are you insinuating that Jesus Christ lied? undecided
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Gointo: 4:11pm On Apr 27, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So in your own PERSONAL opinion Rahab who was DECLARED RIGHTEOUS in God's word {James 2:25} even by apostle Paul who is a confirmed Born Again Christian {Hebrews 11:30-31} should not be accepted as being RIGHTEOUS, Shey?

Your pigheadedness doesn't change the fact that people were DECLARED RIGHTEOUS before Jesus and they were never Born Again! wink
you are talking to a fellow Christian in a discussion, and you called them t olodo, pigheaded..
I'm created in the image and likeness of God,so if the God you claim to serve have an image of a pig then,
by thier fruit you shall know them.

from your watchtower
The Holy Spirit is the name of God's active force in the
world .
that the root of your problem,deal with it.
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:07pm On Apr 27, 2022
Gointo:
you are talking to a fellow Christian in a discussion, and you called them t olodo, pigheaded..
I'm created in the image and likeness of God,so if the God you claim to serve have an image of a pig then,
by thier fruit you shall know them.
from your watchtower
The Holy Spirit is the name of God's active force in the
world .
that the root of your problem,deal with it.
Guy you're not my fellow believer!
BELIEVE connotes TRUST so if you're against what i trust as truth then how are you my fellow believer? cheesy

God's word declared people who lived before Jesus and we're never Born Again RIGHTEOUS and someone is blindly arguing against God's word due to his indoctrination, you came in to CRITICIZE what is written in the Bible and i told you that it's not WRITTEN the way you claim.
Then you angrily said what i quoted from the Bible is USELESS so are you pigheaded or not? smiley
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Gointo: 5:19pm On Apr 27, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're not my fellow believer!
BELIEVE connotes TRUST so if you're against what i trust as truth then how are you my fellow believer? cheesy

God's word declared people who lived before Jesus and we're never Born Again RIGHTEOUS and someone is blindly arguing against God's word due to his indoctrination, you came in to CRITICIZE what is written in the Bible and i told you that it's not WRITTEN the way you claim.
Then you angrily said what i quoted from the Bible is USELESS so are you pigheaded or not? smiley
lol,whether believer or not...every human is made by God..
you're not supposed to say that to anyone ,whether they share your believes or not..
lord Jesus Christ said verily, verily I say unto you if a man say to his brother Raca (idiot) He will not enter the kingdom of heaven. .
THANK GOD YOU SAID I'M NOT YOUR FELLOW BELIEVER...
many confess Jesus but they don't him,he doesn't know them..
NOT EVERYONE THAT SAYS TO ME LORD,LORD WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. ..............I WILL TELL THEM AWAY FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY ..
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:26pm On Apr 27, 2022
Gointo:
lol,whether believer or not...every human is made by God..
you're not supposed to say that to anyone ,whether they share your believes or not..
lord Jesus Christ said verily, verily I say unto you if a man say to his brother Raca (idiot) He will not enter the kingdom of heaven. .
THANK GOD YOU SAID I'M NOT YOUR FELLOW BELIEVER...
many confess Jesus but they don't him,he doesn't know them..
NOT EVERYONE THAT SAYS TO ME LORD,LORD WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. ..............I WILL TELL THEM AWAY FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY ..
Funny Misinformed Churchgoer!
And in what way are you my brother? cheesy
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Gointo: 5:51pm On Apr 27, 2022
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Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Gointo: 6:36pm On Apr 27, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Funny Misinformed Churchgoer! And in what way are you my brother? cheesy
Obviously you are not..
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Apr 27, 2022
Gointo:
Obviously you are not..
Instead of humbly learning from Jehovah's Witnesses you want to establish your religion and at the same time want JWs to accept you as fellow believers.

You need to know the difference between NEIGHBOUR and BROTHER:

NEIGHBOURS are people living around you only few of them share the same beliefs with you so it's those that share the same line of thought (BELIEFS) with you that are your BROTHERS in your FAITH while all others are your neighbours.

That's what Jesus of Nazareth taught and BELIEVE! Matthew 12:46-50

So if you're not my family (blood relation) partner in making money (business associate) or share my beliefs (brothers in faith) then I'm not your brother in any way! smiley
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by cornelboy(f): 8:21pm On Apr 27, 2022
[quote author=Sixfiguresmart post=112313814][/quote]Pastorprenuers lol
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Gointo: 7:43am On Apr 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Instead of humbly learning from Jehovah's Witnesses you want to establish your religion and at the same time want JWs to accept you as fellow believers.

You need to know the difference between NEIGHBOUR and BROTHER:

NEIGHBOURS are people living around you only few of them share the same beliefs with you so it's those that share the same line of thought (BELIEFS) with you that are your BROTHERS in your FAITH while all others are your neighbours.

That's what Jesus of Nazareth taught and BELIEVE! Matthew 12:46-50

So if you're not my family (blood relation) partner in making money (business associate) or share my beliefs (brothers in faith) then I'm not your brother in any way! smiley
being the last to reply doesn't make you right,
My Lord Jesus Christ tells me to love all,even my enemies..
so if I go around insulting and showing hatred because of my belief,
then I see who is practicing religion,
bro I'm done with religion more than 14yrs ago...
if you call the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ my own religion so be it ,but let me correct it's called spirituality..

someone that has not experienced the baptism of the Holy ghost thinks he knows something..
I have many JWs a aquintance, and I've read your text many times,in fact I do go collect it from your so called brothers on a weekly bases...that all about 16yrs ago ..and I see it filled with fantasy. .religious fantasy. .lol..and I know a lot of ills going on in your organisation. .

if you're not operating by the Holy ghost ,what you are doing is trying to know God but you've not known him yet..
there is room for transformation. ..
you think talking Scripture is an assurance you know God ,that what religion teaches...God doesn't care about that ..
someone who is struggling with lust and masturbation,and insulting, zero humility in arrogance
will come online and want to teach saints whom God dwells inside of them..everything you know is what watchtower told you lol,
zero experiential knowledge of God..your own Christ is still locked up in your book..lol....
first touch reality in the spirit then you can teach. .
lord Jesus Christ ask his disciples to tarry in Jerusalem to receive the promise of the father (holyspirit )..that is when he said I have made you witness on to me,to preach the gospel to all creatures..

if you like call yourself Jehovah's Witnesses, or elohim witness..

WELL IT'S YOUR PROBLEM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE HOLY GHOST, AND YOU COMFORTABLE, COMING ONLINE TO TALK BIBLE ,LOL,YOU'RE A JOCKER
in this end time any organisation that downplays the Holy ghost doesn't know Christ. ..bye...you become what you believe ,continue selecting versses that relate with your intellect,discard others even what christ told you,,.you will soon wail and gnash your teeth for your unbelieve.
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:34am On Apr 28, 2022
Gointo:
being the last to reply doesn't make you right,
My Lord Jesus Christ tells me to love all,even my enemies..
so if I go around insulting and showing hatred because of my belief,
then I see who is practicing religion,
bro I'm done with religion more than 14yrs ago...
if you call the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ my own religion so be it ,but let me correct it's called spirituality..

someone that has not experienced the baptism of the Holy ghost thinks he knows something..
I have many JWs a aquintance, and I've read your text many times,in fact I do go collect it from your so called brothers on a weekly bases...that all about 16yrs ago ..and I see it filled with fantasy. .religious fantasy. .lol..and I know a lot of ills going on in your organisation. .

if you're not operating by the Holy ghost ,what you are doing is trying to know God but you've not known him yet..
there is room for transformation. ..
you think talking Scripture is an assurance you know God ,that what religion teaches...God doesn't care about that ..
someone who is struggling with lust and masturbation,and insulting, zero humility in arrogance
will come online and want to teach saints whom God dwells inside of them..everything you know is what watchtower told you lol,
zero experiential knowledge of God..your own Christ is still locked up in your book..lol....
first touch reality in the spirit then you can teach. .
lord Jesus Christ ask his disciples to tarry in Jerusalem to receive the promise of the father (holyspirit )..that is when he said I have made you witness on to me,to preach the gospel to all creatures..

if you like call yourself Jehovah's Witnesses, or elohim witness..

WELL IT'S YOUR PROBLEM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE HOLY GHOST, AND YOU COMFORTABLE, COMING ONLINE TO TALK BIBLE ,LOL,YOU'RE A JOCKER
in this end time any organisation that downplays the Holy ghost doesn't know Christ. ..bye...you become what you believe ,continue selecting versses that relate with your intellect,discard others even what christ told you,,.you will soon wail and gnash your teeth for your unbelieve.
I'm not interested in arguing with you, just in case try to remember that you're not my BROTHER but my NEIGHBOUR! smiley

Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 10:46am On Apr 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The first century Jewish disciples agreed with everything Jesus said not because they perfectly understood it all but it's working out BENEFITS in their gathering. The same thing is applicable to JWs, I accepted everything they taught me not because i understood it all but because it's working out BENEFITS among their members throughout the world! Matthew 7:16-18


So speak for yourself Sir i believe everything JWs taught me! smiley
So you do admit that you don't understand it all and yet you refuse to listen to those that indeed understand.
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 10:58am On Apr 28, 2022
Ken4Christ:
Off course he can do good. Some even do good in the sight of men more than those who are born again. But the fact remains that they are still sinners. They have no relationship with God. The nature of sin has to be removed first. And this is done by accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour.
Okay... True.. True..
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by tctrills: 11:17am On Apr 28, 2022
Ibomrep:
God's kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that will replace all human Government. Daniel 2:44
2Thessalonians 1 : 6-8

It's a real government with all characteristic.

It's made up of the following :

(1) Seat of Power

Heaven is the seat of power of God's kingdom.

(3) The King

Jehovah God appointed Jesus Christ his son as the king of his kingdom.
Daniel 7: 13,14. Matthew 11 : 28-30. Hebrew 10 : 12, 13

(4) Co-rulers

Just like human government in which a king, Governor, or president doesn't rule alone. Some people will rule with Jesus.
Revelation 5:9,10. Revelation 14 :1-4

Jesus apostles were the first set of people that God choose from Earth that will rule with Jesus.
John 14:1-3, Corinthians 15: 42-44

(5) Subject

All others Christian on Earth will become citizens of God's kingdom. Psalms 37:29

(6) Constitution ( Degree)

Government make laws that are supposed to benefit and protect their citizens.
God's kingdom too has Superior Laws that it's citizens most follow.
Bible contains the law of the Kingdom.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11

What will God's kingdom Accomplish?

(1) Restoring Peace and justice to the earth

Jesus the King of God's kingdom, will destroy wicked people and government at the war of Armageddon.
Revelation 16 :14, 16

At that time Psalms 37: 10 will be fulfilled.

(2) The righteous will possessed the earth .
Psalms 37:29

(3) End of Human government

'Man has dominated man to his harm' . Ecclessiates 8: 9.

So for this reason and many more, God's kingdom will replace human rulership. Daniel 2: 44

(4) Earth environmental problems will be solved. Isaiah 35:1,2

(5) World hunger will be eliminated . Psalms 72:16

(6) Perfect health for all. Isaiah 33:24

(7) No more death !!!
Revelation 21:3,4 Isaiah 25:8

(cool Animals will be harmless to Humans.
Isaiah 65:25

(9) Accommodation for all
Isaiah 65:22,23

(10) The blind will see .
Deaf will hear.
Lame will leap.
Isaiah 35:5-7
Revelation 21: 4


(12) Many will be resurrected back to life !!!
Act 24:15

There are two hope for all Humans that is either living forever here on Earth under God's kingdom rulership or Going to Heaven to rule with Jesus over the inhabitants of the earth.

It's only Jehovah God that will decide for all.

You can live forever on Earth only if you exercise Faith in Jesus Ransom sacrifice !!!

Note, after Jesus Christ and his Co-rulers Rule and restore the earth for one thousand years he will then handover power to his father, Jehovah, and he will rule forever.

They many live triggered questions that the Bible provides satisfying answers to , do well to explore the world most translated and visited religious website - WWW.JW.ORG



A world without sufferings, corruption, Deaths, Hatred, poverty, Unemployment and sickness is near !!!

Be alert !!!

Vote for God's kingdom now !!!
I mostly agree with you except that all those that would dwell with God would be kings, Queens and priests. They would seat on the throne of God. They would be like God and have all his power given to them.
Revelation 1:6
(6) And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever.

Revelation 3:21
To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:24pm On Apr 28, 2022
Hismasterpiece:
So you do admit that you don't understand it all and yet you refuse to listen to those that indeed understand.
If they understands BETTER than JWs then let them perform BETTER than JWs! smiley
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 5:54pm On Apr 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
If they understands BETTER than JWs then let them perform BETTER than JWs! smiley
When thou sayest 'peform' what dost thou mean? huh huh
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:33pm On Apr 28, 2022
Hismasterpiece:
When thou sayest 'peform' what dost thou mean? huh huh
Jesus commissioned a global preaching and teaching campaign {Matthew 28:18-20} he ordered his followers never to use weapons in settling disputes {Matthew 26:52} he ordered us never to participate in world politics {John 17:14-16} he commanded us to love our neighbours as ourselves {Mark 12:31} so we're never tired of visiting our neighbours Sir, Jesus also commanded us to love our members as he loves us {John 13:34-35; 15:12-13} even you can't deny all of these.

Remember how we all know that there are many JWs who are also have questionable characters, meaning they're not angels but imperfect humans like everyone else yet something is uniting them to do all what is foretold in the scriptures above. So let's see another group that's performing at least like Jehovah's Witnesses if not better than Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley

Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:08pm On Apr 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus commissioned a global preaching and teaching campaign {Matthew 28:18-20} he ordered his followers never to use weapons in settling disputes {Matthew 26:52} he ordered us never to participate in world politics {John 17:14-16} he commanded us to love our neighbours as ourselves {Mark 12:31} so we're never tired of visiting our neighbours Sir, Jesus also commanded us to love our members as he loves us {John 13:34-35; 15:12-13} even you can't deny all of these.

Remember how we all know that there are many JWs who are also have questionable characters, meaning they're not angels but imperfect humans like everyone else yet something is uniting them to do all what is foretold in the scriptures above. So let's see another group that's performing at least like Jehovah's Witnesses if not better than Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Lol.. you do realise that the bolded in no way infers that believers should abstain from politics abi?

Anyways, peace!
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50am On Apr 29, 2022
Hismasterpiece:
Lol.. you do realise that the bolded in no way infers that believers should abstain from politics abi?
Anyways, peace!
Well it's our interpretation of that scripture you're free to interpret it to whatever you want, one thing that's certain is Satan is the God of this WORLD {2Corinthians 4:4 compare to 1John 5:19} so all the political seats are under his control {Luke 4:5-7} when our Master, Lord and King (Christ Jesus) say he is no part of the world {John 17:14-16} we fully understand that he is not ready to participate in Satan's government (worldly politics) John 6:15
May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Key Facts About God's Kingdom by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:31pm On Apr 29, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Well it's our interpretation of that scripture you're free to interpret it to whatever you want, one thing that's certain is Satan is the God of this WORLD {2Corinthians 4:4 compare to 1John 5:19} so all the political seats are under his control {Luke 4:5-7} when our Master, Lord and King (Christ Jesus) say he is no part of the world {John 17:14-16} we fully understand that he is not ready to participate in Satan's government (worldly politics) John 6:15
May you have PEACE! smiley
Lol... Alright. If yous say so. May you also have peace! smiley smiley
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