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Jodera:
Lol... A whole Barca Midfield is just good.
Iniesta of 2012 a mystery?


Time indeed issa basta**rd.

Jodera:
Lol... A whole Barca Midfield is just good.
Iniesta of 2012 a mystery?


Time indeed issa basta**rd.

I believe his iniesta hate surely stemmed from this moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arI6X7gBu-Q

popizaino:
Let me tell you the biggest mystery............it is eulogizing Frank Lampard and berating Andres Lujan Iniesta. This act is worse than felony. In fact if wishes were horses I would have love to have them arrested.

I take an attacking midfielder that gave me 47 GA in a season than one with zero GA in the league in a calendar year.

Just thank God for carryalong. If Lampard accepted Barca offer in mid-2000s, they will be hailing him best thing since sliced bread in Catalunya by the time his productivity is added to Messi and co to dominate every tournament.

Bring Iniesta to Chelsea with his zero GA and you will chase him with sticks like Willian

Put Joe Cole on his right and Malouda on his left and Chelsea will be dragging league position with Bolton

Unproductive Willian, 64 goals in 8 years in England. Productive Iniesta, 57 goals in 16 years in Spain.

Ibime:
Their decline and loss of possession domination after Xavi

The passing stats during Xavi time compared to after Xavi

The passing stats of Xavi compared to Iniesta

The fact Xavi assisted in almost all of Spain's major knockout games in the International tournaments (which were almost all decided by a single goal) while Iniesta was doing vibes

Ibime we have been through this before and I think have ended the discussion when I asked you why Barcelona in their prime lost to inter Milan in the semifinals in 2010 without Andres iniesta given the fact that they won in a year before and after which he played in?

Iniesta na shaku-shaku master where are his goals and assists as an attacking midfielder? Iniesta was busy dribbling around while Xavi was passing and dominating the midfield battle with passes and assists

popizaino:
Let me tell you the biggest mystery............ it is eulogizing Frank Lampard and berating Andres Lujan Iniesta. This act is worse than felony. In fact if wishes were horses I would have love to have them arrested.

You need to be arrested bro.

Boris Johnson is considering giving some proceeds of the sale of Chelsea to grassroots football in the United Kingdom.

[via
@thetimes
]

Ibime:
I take an attacking midfielder that gave me 47 GA in a season than one with zero GA in the league in a calendar year.

Just thank God for carryalong. If Lampard accepted Barca offer in mid-2000s, they will be hailing him best thing since sliced bread in Catalunya by the time his productivity is added to Messi and co to dominate every tournament.

Bring Iniesta to Chelsea with his zero GA and you will chase him with sticks like William

Unproductive William, 64 goals in 8 years in England. Productive Iniesta, 57 goals in 16 years in Spain.

If assist and goals were all that matters in football for a midfielders then i wonder how many UCL real Madrid won when they prioritised starting 0zil ahead of modric ?

popizaino:
Ibime we have been through this before and I think have ended the discussion when I asked you why Barcelona in their prime lost to inter Milan in the semifinals in 2010 without Andres iniesta given the fact that they won in a year before and after which he played in?

Barcelona in their prime also lost to Chelsea so you are saying nothing.

You ain't saying nothing as long as Barca dominated Inter midfield to stupor without Iniesta, they just didn't score the last goal needed

Just goes to show Xavi never needed Iniesta to dominate any midfield.

For Spain, Iniesta played wing and the midfield domination from Xavi was the same.

But the moment Xavi got old and later left, Barca midfield domination turned to rubble

popizaino:
Let me tell you the biggest mystery............it is eulogizing Frank Lampard and berating Andres Lujan Iniesta. This act is worse than felony. In fact if wishes were horses I would have love to have them arrested.

No dogs in this fight but u asked a question and he gave u an answer, instead of addressing his points you shifted to another argument not relating to the question u asked....In the spirit of Fair play,we would like you to respond to his argument and stop jumping up and down...

No be only Lujan Inesta, na Julius Inesta.

Imagine trying to slander Lampard for Inesta?

The worst among chelsea fans are those who don't have opinion of their own. They worse than Monafiqi,hypocrites.

popizaino:
If assist and goals were all that matters in football for a midfielders then i wonder how many UCL real Madrid won when they prioritised starting 0zil ahead of modric ?

Let Iniesta come to Chelsea, let's see how we will eat his zero goals and assist.

Nigga is just a Spanish Kovacic.

No Messi to score 60 goals plus here.

Ibime:
Barcelona in their prime also lost to Chelsea so you are saying nothing.

You ain't saying nothing as long as Barca dominated Inter midfield to stupor without Iniesta, they just didn't score the last goal needed

Just goes to show Xavi never needed Iniesta to dominate any midfield.

For Spain, Iniesta played wing and the domination was the same.

But the moment Xavi got old and later left, Barca midfield domination turned to rubble

Inesta won UCL and dominated the midfield in 2015. This was actually achieved without Xavi.

I also think Inesta won a lot of individual awards than Xavi, you can correct me if I’m wrong.

Question is, what and what did Xavi win without Inesta?

I’ll still stand that they are both class when paired together, they can’t function properly without each other, if anyone amongst them did it, it’s Inesta.

If anyone amongst the two had clutch moments, it’s still Inesta.

If you don’t rate one of the greatest midfielders ever then you have a problem and I am not the one to tell you what to do

Iniesta needed xavi to dominate but he won ucl in 2015 playing alongside rakitic and busquets ,I guess iniesta was being carried by rakitic

Keep being deluded as that’s your own cup of koko garri

Ibime:
Let Iniesta come to Chelsea, let's see how we will eat his zero goals and assist.

Nigga is just a Spanish Kovacic.

No Messi to score 60 goals plus here.

Tell us what Madrid won with 80 assists of ozil as oppose to that of modric who doesnt even have half of that ?

Lmapard was just too good, his only crime was playing for chelsea. Hatred for Chelsea rubbed on his blissful career.
Lampard the better player, he ate his position like Oha soup, however Iniesta was good too in Barca and Spain system.

hensben:
Lmapard was just too good, his only crime was playing for chelsea. Hatred for Chelsea rubbed on his blissful career.
Lampard the better player, he ate his position like Oha soup, however Iniesta was good too in Barca and Spain system.

So which club Lampard should have played for then ?

Meanwhile....

Ellexy:
Meanwhile....

Just call the person come out

andrewbaba44:
So which club Lampard should have played for then ?

Barca and Spain dominance as a team gave iniesta advantage of individual accolades. As an individual player, Lampard did more than him and can be successful with any top team if no injury, whereas, iniesta can not actually do much outside that system of play in terms of end product.

hensben:
Barca and Spain dominance as a team gave iniesta advantage of individual accolades. As an individual player, Lampard did more than him and can be successful with any top team if no injury, whereas, iniesta can not actually do much outside that system of play in terms of end product.

Thank God you don’t judge players by end product

This thread sha

andrewbaba44:
Thank God you don’t judge players by end product

End product is not only goals.

BlueMann:
Just call the person come out

Contrary to popular opinion here, Roman ain't just gonna walk away from that amount of money just like that. An excerpt the article reads...

"Last week the consortium led by Todd Boehly, the co-owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team, was informed by Chelsea’s US bankers that it had been given a five-day period of exclusivity as preferred bidders.

But sources from the rival bid groups said it was only “days” before that decision was taken that they were informed that the loan, which is in trust in Jersey, needs to be repaid on the sale of the club"

donstan18:
Inesta won UCL and dominated the midfield in 2015. This was actually achieved without Xavi.

I also think Inesta won a lot of individual awards than Xavi, you can correct me if I’m wrong.

Question is, what and what did Xavi win without Inesta?

I’ll still stand that they are both class when paired together, they can’t function properly without each other, if anyone amongst them did it, it’s Inesta.

If anyone amongst the two had clutch moments, it’s still Inesta.

They did not dominate midfield in 2015. This is revisionism.

2015 was built on MSN direct football not the usual Barca way

Xavi set the template for Spain and Barca in 2008 Euros and was by far the POTT with Iniesta as a carryalong. That was the start of the extreme midfield dominance era. Xavi started it and ended it.

Ellexy:
Contrary to popular opinion here, Roman ain't just gonna walk away from that amount of money just like that. An excerpt the article reads...

"Last week the consortium led by Todd Boehly, the co-owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team, was informed by Chelsea’s US bankers that it had been given a five-day period of exclusivity as preferred bidders.

But sources from the rival bid groups said it was only “days” before that decision was taken that they were informed that the loan, which is in trust in Jersey, needs to be repaid on the sale of the club"

Hacktualky I wanted you to call DonJ so he can bless us with another inspirational piece..it has been a while since we had one of those

popizaino:
Tell us what Madrid won with 80 assists of ozil as oppose to that of modric who doesnt even have half of that ?

Ozil cannot play in a 4-3-3 and that's a structural problem for his teams. Lampard is a 4-3-3 midfielder who would slot in that Barca 4-3-3 and show that Iniesta is just fooling you with vibes. Iniesta was never responsible for controlling but creating. All the controlling was done by Xavi and Busquet to a lesser extent. Xavi makes 100 passes, Busquet makes 80 and Iniesta only 60. Midfield control never lost a single percentage when Keita came in. His job was to create and be productive and he failed woefully, but people who don't understand where midfield control comes from will create excuses that his job is to control, not to create. Control always comes from the two deepest midfielders primarily. Any AM telling you he is controlling is telling porkies. Bayern does not need Muller to control games. Muller does what he supposed to do, not lying that he's helping to "control midfield" with only 60 passes

Ibime:
They did not dominate midfield in 2015. This is revisionism.

2015 was built on MSN direct football not the usual Barca way

Xavi set the template for Spain and Barca in 2008 Euros and was by far the POTT with Iniesta as a carryalong. That was the start of the extreme midfield dominance era. Xavi started it and ended it.

Individual awards, clutch moments, solo achievements without each other.

Inesta >>> Xavi

So there’s no way you’ll say Xavi carried Inesta, it’s not even possible. Never!!

Inesta is even more offensive than Xavi, without him Xavi will be a “CM version of Jorginho” just receiving pass and giving it out without progressing and driving the ball offensively.

BlueMann:
Hacktualky I wanted you to call DonJ so he can bless us with another inspirational piece..it has been a while since we had one of those

I know but to me it's more about Chelsea being used to play politics to it's detriment than any epistle DonJ will be churning out.

donstan18:
Individual awards, clutch moments, solo achievements without each other.

Inesta >>> Xavi

So there’s no way you’ll say Xavi carried Inesta, it’s not even possible. Never!!

Inesta is even more offensive than Xavi, without him Xavi will be a “CM version of Jorginho” just receiving pass and giving it out without progressing and driving the ball offensively.

These are the clutch moments in Spain's three tournament victories:

Xavi:

7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals.

2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist,
2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 xavi assists,
2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist,
2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist.
2010 WC 2nd round vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist


Iniesta:

Assist against Russia in 3-0 win in Euro 2008
1 World Cup final goal after being carried along all tournament with no contribution.


Xavi baked the cake (possession) and still iced it (GA) while Iniesta was doing vibes

donstan18:
No be only Lujan Inesta, na Julius Inesta.

Imagine trying to slander Lampard for Inesta?

lmao