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LordReed:
You didn't answer the question. The question again: So you have never had a bad thought?

i have answered your question comprehensively. When you say "so", it implies that you think i said otherwise. The Bible doesn't teach that anyone has never sinned or had bad thoughts. So the word "never" should not be in question. ALL have sinned.
If you are asking if i have bad thoughts like i explained, NO. i have made a covenant not to think bad thoughts.
If you are asking if bad thoughts cross my mind. YES, bad thoughts cross everyone(including the man Jesus)'s mind but in differing frequencies. Bad thoughts are temptations from the devil usually due to things we encounter/experience. In this case, we cast down and bring into captivity every imagination and thought to the obedience of Christ.

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PastorMIsBack:
This video only has 25 views on YT

26 now

Wanbissaka:
26 now

Lol Thank you.

I was just wondering why this thread is ongoing whilst the views are low

Image123:
i have answered your question comprehensively. When you say "so", it implies that you think i said otherwise. The Bible doesn't teach that anyone has never sinned or had bad thoughts. So the word "never" should not be in question. ALL have sinned.
If you are asking if i have bad thoughts like i explained, NO. i have made a covenant not to think bad thoughts.
If you are asking if bad thoughts cross my mind. YES, bad thoughts cross everyone(including the man Jesus)'s mind but in differing frequencies. Bad thoughts are temptations from the devil usually due to things we encounter/experience. In this case, we cast down and bring into captivity every imagination and thought to the obedience of Christ.

Do you recall that your first response was that by the grace of your god it was possible to never have bad thoughts so do you now agree that there is no way to avoid having bad thoughts because that is what you just admitted.

LordReed:
Do you recall that your first response was that by the grace of your god it was possible to never have bad thoughts so do you now agree that there is no way to avoid having bad thoughts because that is what you just admitted.

i responded to your saying it is impossible(There is no way to avoid such thoughts) not to "look at your neighbour's wife lustfully". This my friend is very possible by God's grace. i have not looked/thought at my neighbor's wife/wives lustfully in years. But i went on to explain more clearly about different types of thoughts. It will be wrong to group all thoughts together in the context.

LordReed:
LoLz! Quote the section of the criminal code that makes someone prosecutable for intent before a crime has been committed.

See, what you said, whereas I said

"After the crime has been committed in his mind, (men Rea) he is prosecutable"

Dtruthspeaker:
See, what you said, whereas I said

"After the crime has been committed in his mind, (men Rea) he is prosecutable"

That’s a lie, men rea is not a crime and it has never been prosecuted.
Stop reading half things.

Image123:
i responded to your saying it is impossible(There is no way to avoid such thoughts) not to "look at your neighbour's wife lustfully". This my friend is very possible by God's grace. i have not looked/thought at my neighbor's wife/wives lustfully in years. But i went on to explain more clearly about different types of thoughts. It will be wrong to group all thoughts together in the context.

But you said bad thoughts comes to everyone mind. You are contradicting yourself..

Maynman:
That’s a lie, men rea is not a crime and it has never been prosecuted.
Stop reading half things.

Boy, even with your Google, you are still full of nothingnes. Let real lawyers come and say that I am wrong.

Dtruthspeaker:
Boy, even with your Google, you still empty. You know nothing. Let real lawyers come and speak.

Illiterate, no lawyer is as daft as you that will say mens rea is a crime. Why not quote the section of it in the law, real lawyer?

Image123:
i responded to your saying it is impossible(There is no way to avoid such thoughts) not to "look at your neighbour's wife lustfully". This my friend is very possible by God's grace. i have not looked/thought at my neighbor's wife/wives lustfully in years. But i went on to explain more clearly about different types of thoughts. It will be wrong to group all thoughts together in the context.

My aim was not to imply that all thoughts are the same but to assert that bad thoughts in general cannot be completely exorcised from the mind and that it is not thoughts that we evaluate in a person but their actions.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, what you said, whereas I said

"After the crime has been committed in his mind, (men Rea) he is prosecutable"

Oga just quote the section that says you can prosecute someone for thought crime.

Maynman:
That’s a lie, men rea is not a crime and it has never been prosecuted.
Stop reading half things.

Good screenshot.

LordReed:
My aim was not to imply that all thoughts are the same but to assert that bad thoughts in general cannot be completely exorcised from the mind and that it is not thoughts that we evaluate in a person but their actions.

i see. No one is in doubt of the bold, in fact the Bible teaches it. Also, the post that you were responding to didn't talk about bad thoughts in general but about lusting after your neighbour's wife.
On evaluation, you cannot really know the thoughts of a person talk less of evaluate. Only God knows the thoughts, intents and motives of every man and will give proper judgement in due season.

Maynman:
But you said bad thoughts comes to everyone mind. You are contradicting yourself..

i said many things, read properly.

Image123:
i said many things, read properly.

Maybe you forgot what you said, memorize properly

Image123:
i see. No one is in doubt of the bold, in fact the Bible teaches it. Also, the post that you were responding to didn't talk about bad thoughts in general but about lusting after your neighbour's wife.
On evaluation, you cannot really know the thoughts of a person talk less of evaluate. Only God knows the thoughts, intents and motives of every man and will give proper judgement in due season.

Alright.

LordReed:
Oga just quote the section that says you can prosecute someone for thought crime.

Ehen, better!

Intention to kill. "Animus necandi" Section 316 (1) (2) and (4). Criminal Code.

Intention to steal "Animus furandi" Section 383 (2) Criminal Code.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ehen, better!

Intention to kill. "Animus necandi" Section 316 (1) (2) and (4). Criminal Code.

Intention to steal "Animus furandi" Section 383 (2) Criminal Code.

You are an illiterate. The action must have occurred first, you are just disgracing yourself.

Maynman:
You are an illiterate. The action must have occurred first, you are just disgracing yourself.

You are a spectacularly stupid fool, who thinks because you can read, you can know.

"TERRORIST, BANDITS, YAHOO-YAHOO BOYS, DRUG DEALERS, ETC WILL NEVER BE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTABLE IF THE NATION HAS TO WAIT FOR THEM TO COMMIT THE CRIMES FIRST!

if not that this was very important for the public to know, I would not have responded to you. You are too Stupid for any reasonable engagement.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are a spectacularly stupid fool, who thinks because you can read, you can know.

"TERRORIST, BANDITS, YAHOO-YAHOO BOYS, DRUG DEALERS, ETC WILL NEVER BE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTABLE IF THE NATION HAS TO WAIT FOR THEM TO COMMIT THE CRIMES FIRST!

if not that this was very important for the public to know, I would not have responded to you. You are too Stupid for any reasonable engagement.

You are a retar,d. how did you know we have terrorist, bandits and yahoo boys? Didn’t they commit the act first? Why didn’t they arrest you? What evidence will they use to arrest and convict them? You are an illiterate.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ehen, better!

Intention to kill. "Animus necandi" Section 316 (1) (2) and (4). Criminal Code.

Intention to steal "Animus furandi" Section 383 (2) Criminal Code.

LoLz! Where in those does it say you can prosecute someone for his thoughts. For Andromeda's sake the crime has already been physically committed!

Section 316 of the Nigerian Criminal Code
Definition of murder

Except as hereinafter set forth, a person who unlawfully kills another under any of the following circumstances, that is to say‐
(1) if the offender intends to cause the death of the person killed, or that of some other person;
(2) if the offender intends to do to the person killed or to some other person some grievous
harm;
(3) if death is caused by means of an act done in the prosecution of an unlawful purpose, which
act is of such a nature as to be likely to endanger human life;
(4) if the offender intends to do grievous harm to some person for the purpose of facilitating the
commission of an offence which is such that the offender may be arrested without warrant, or for the purpose of facilitating the flight of an offender who has committed or attempted to commit any such offence;

Section 383 of the Criminal Code Act in Nigeria. Definition of stealing

(2) A person who takes or converts anything capable of being stolen IS deemed to do so fraudulently If he does so with any of the following intents‐

For crying out loud the person has already killed someone/stolen something! Bwahahahahaha! SMH.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are a spectacularly stupid fool, who thinks because you can read, you can know.

"TERRORIST, BANDITS, YAHOO-YAHOO BOYS, DRUG DEALERS, ETC WILL NEVER BE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTABLE IF THE NATION HAS TO WAIT FOR THEM TO COMMIT THE CRIMES FIRST!

if not that this was very important for the public to know, I would not have responded to you. You are too Stupid for any reasonable engagement.

Show us the ones that were arrested because they were merely thinking of it.

LordReed:
LoLz! Where in those does it say you can prosecute someone for his thoughts.

This was the question you asked which is why I have shown you The Laws of Thoughts (Animus) and the type of people prosecuted for their evil intentions, for nlot crying out loud.

And that is the catch! Even in thoughts, THERE ARE ACTS AND ACTIONS OF GUILT THERE THAT THE POLICE CAN USE TO PROSECUTE AND SEEK CONVICTION.

THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT.

Hence the brother of Section 316 comes in

Section 320 of the Criminal Code,

"Any person who:
(a.) Attempts unlawfully to kill another; or (b) With intent unlawfully to kill another...,

LordReed:
Show us the ones that were arrested because they were merely thinking of it.

I have already shown you the types of people who as soon as it is seen that they have such evil thoughts, they would be brought to rest.

Dtruthspeaker:
I have already shown you the types of people who as soon as it is seen that they have such evil thoughts, they would be brought to rest.

Didn’t know we have special instruments for seeing thoughts, naija police are mind readers
You are too wise

Dtruthspeaker:
I have already shown you the types of people who as soon as it is seen that they have such evil thoughts, they would be brought to rest.

LoLz! How do you see people's thoughts?

Dtruthspeaker:
This was the question you asked which is why I have shown you The Laws of Thoughts (Animus) and the type of people prosecuted for their evil intentions, for nlot crying out loud.

And that is the catch! Even in thoughts, THERE ARE ACTS AND ACTIONS OF GUILT THERE THAT THE POLICE CAN USE TO PROSECUTE AND SEEK CONVICTION.

THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT.

Hence the brother of Section 316 comes in

Section 320 of the Criminal Code,

"Any person who:
(a.) Attempts unlawfully to kill another; or (b) With intent unlawfully to kill another...,

Wrong. You can think all the bad thoughts you want and never follow it up with action. Nobody can be prosecuted for merely having bad thoughts. It is until you take action can a prosecutable case be made against you. An attempt to kill is a prosecutable action, mere thought cannot be prosecuted.

LordReed:
Wrong. You can think all the bad thoughts you want and never follow it up with action. Nobody can be prosecuted for merely having bad thoughts. It is until you take action can a prosecutable case be made against you. An attempt to kill is a prosecutable action, mere thought cannot be prosecuted.

And I have said that "THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT." which can render you prosecutable if it is evil an evil one.

Dtruthspeaker:
And I have said that "THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT." which can render you prodecutable if it is evil an evil one.

Do you know what self control is?

Dtruthspeaker:
And I have said that "THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT." which can render you prodecutable if it is evil an evil one.

Oga we are talking about thoughts not acts. You cannot be prosecuted for your thoughts alone.