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| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Oplomo: 4:55am On May 05, 2022 |
obailala:Tell us one political decision that Igbo should have made in the past since after the war that failed to make. Tell us who they should have voted in the past that they didn't. We need specifics now from you sermonists on Igbo politics not the time-worn semantics of 'Igbos can't play politics' rubbish. The same Igbos are getting elected as Senators in Europe, mayors in US, Canada etc. Give us specifics. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Oplomo: 4:56am On May 05, 2022 |
Tinubuadvocate:You don't want ibo 5%er votes again? |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by obailala(m): 7:55am On May 05, 2022 |
Oplomo:Individuals getting elected in US and Canada means nothing, I wasnt referring to individual achievements, and this is one area the Igbos also fail; i.e. giving too much attention to individual achievements rather than collective. You asked for examples of bad politcal decisions, the Op already gave some examples, one of which is casting all resources and loyalty to PDP unconditionally; the unconditionality of that loyalty is where the mistake lies - a good politician always gives conditions before supporting anything. The Igbos are a major tribe and very possibly the most populous in Nigeria, but we keep acting like a minority tribe. When APC was formed and it was clear they were going to become a power house, Igbos should have infiltrated the party (instead of leaving all eggs in one PDP basket). Igbos not infiltrating APC is what made Apc a Yoruba-Hausa-Fulani party. You might ask, "didn't some Igbos join APC?", but that's not enough; we talking collectively and not individuals. Even the individuals who joined APC were literally banished and collectively tagged names like 'Okoro-Awusa' just for daring to play politics the Nigerian way. Another example of poor politics is what's been happening since 2015; no matter how smart or wealthy or populated you are, you can never achieve political victories by burning bridges (which is effectively the only thing Igbos have collectively done since 2015, i.e. insulting and mocking Yorubas, Hausas and Fulanis). Political victories are achieved only through alliances and partnerships. Even with the much touted population of the north, Buhari consistently lost elections until his people chose to have an alliance with the SW. Since 2015, Tinubu and his southwestern political block have eaten lots of insult and shit from the Fulani block, but they've chosen to quietly swallow the embarrassment in hope of clinching the presidency in 2023, and you'd agree that is something that looks quite likely (through tinubu or osinbajo). In my opinion, that's what politics is all about, not insulting people consistently for 7 years and then somehow turning around expecting their support to win an election. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Transcriber: 8:08am On May 05, 2022 |
Oplomo:You are comparing Nigerian politics to western politics? You are in for a long thing |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Gentlerespect76: 8:12am On May 05, 2022 |
mrvitalis:Are you sure it's not the same person behind that moniker? They are devious, these guys. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Oplomo: 8:29am On May 05, 2022 |
obailala:How popular was PDP in your yorubaland before you GIFTED the presidency in 1999 and 2003? 'Ibos can't play politics' but the Ibos getting elected by Europeans and American are from Jupiter? Is OBJ's presidency not both a personal achievement both for him and for the yorubas. Do you yoruba not brag with OBJ presidency and use it to mock Ibos? How come yoruba were gifted presidency for not aligning with a party but Igbos should be scolded, maligned and scorned for doing same? Make us understand your nigerian politics. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by obailala(m): 9:18am On May 05, 2022 |
Oplomo:First of all, I dont remember mentioning anywhere that I'm Yoruba. So maybe you need to calm down and correct your "if he doesnt say something to massage my ego, he must be Yoruba" mentality. And then talking of 1999, that was a peculiar case when the military simply handed over power almost unilaterally to OBJ as a compensation for the MKO saga. Besides, OBJ whilst being a Yoruba man wasnt even the consensus Yoruba candidate (Falae was). Meanwhile, I dont think I've ever come across anywhere any Yoruba person used an OBJ presidency to mock Igbos; perhaps you can point out any examples of that? And then you keep saying Igbos are elected in foreign countries; how can you keep being so naive to compare foreign politics to Nigerian politics? I also mentioned above that the focus is on collective politics, not individual achievement |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Oplomo: 9:50am On May 05, 2022 |
obailala:Mr Oba...whatever, I don't my ego massaged, it doesn't swell my bank account. However, I stopped reading at the bolded. Your lame attempt at appearing dispassionate and objective, failed the test of prejudice right there. This very forum is littered with invectives of mockery against the East from your yoruba comrades telling us '...we yorubas have produced OBJ as president, Igbos will never be president' . It is you are either totally blind or wallowing in the usual yoruba self-deceit, thinking you are smarter than everyone else. I pretended I didn't know your antecedent on this forum in replying you, but you still failed the test of objectivity. Move, let hear from sincere folks. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by QuotaSystem: 10:08am On May 05, 2022 |
obailala:This rare post ought to be framed and placed in every APGA, PDP and APC office in the East. Quite magnanimous of you sir. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by QuotaSystem: 10:20am On May 05, 2022 |
Oplomo: obailala: |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by QuotaSystem: 10:25am On May 05, 2022 |
Oplomo:A refresher. QuotaSystem: |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by ProudImolite: 10:27am On May 05, 2022 |
Tinubuadvocate:our "5%" ![]() |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by ProudImolite: 10:30am On May 05, 2022 |
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| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by obailala(m): 11:44am On May 05, 2022 |
Oplomo:I don't give a damn who you think I am or where you think I'm from; that's absolutely inconsequential and irrelevant to the discussion That notwithstanding, I'm a harcore Igbo man from the eastern heartland. If my opinions, ideologies and philosophies doesnt sit well with you or doesn't align with the general Igbo political ideology and approach (which i totally and openly do not agree with most times), then feel free to tag me a Yoruba man, an efulefu or whatever derogatory term that makes you feel better. As for what you said above, I'm an ardent reader in this forum and have seen several comments about '...Igbos will never be president'... But I've never seen a "We Yorubas have produced OBJ, but you Igbos will never be president" statement. But then again, who gives a damn what tribal idiots even blab about online when there are more important things to think about?... I made a clear point which you ignored and started focusing on the mundane - that Igbos collectively have failed to play proper politics in Nigeria. That explains why the Igbo man (even a fine candidate such as Mr Obi) is sadly by default, politically disadvantaged in the Nigerian political stage. Of course small minds would simply dismiss this with the emotional concept of "...they hate us, that's why they don't support us...", and other small minds would simply say "...you are Yoruba..." for daring to say such. But yet again, that doesnt change the fact in what I said about failing to play right politics; emotions don't work in politics. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Okoroawusa: 9:19pm On May 05, 2022 |
obailala:I doff my hat for you. .. Your thoughts are illuminated in mine point by point. As an igbo I used to care about the political future of igbos since 2015 until I stopped caring . My own itch is that there are igbos that reason just like you and I do but it's quite unfortunate that we are in minority. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Emilokoiyawon: 12:45am On May 06, 2022 |
ProudImolite:Yes. Give Tinubu your 5% and he will reward you with 10%. That's a good deal. You have doubled your worth. You can't vote Wike because he killed your people in Obigbo. You can't vote Atiku because it is the turn of the South to produce president. Align with Yorubas (your Southern brothers) and take your rightful place in the sphere of Nigerian politics. Or you can continue with your Biafra or death, insulting Yorubas, Muslims/Islam and Northerners and calling Nigeria a zoo. The choice is yours. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by ProudImolite: 2:32pm On May 06, 2022 |
Emilokoiyawon:So if we align with yorubas , what will we get ? Tell me in practical terms |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Emilokoiyawon: 3:22pm On May 06, 2022 |
ProudImolite:That will be decided by Tinubu and the Igbo power brokers presented by Ndigbo. I cannot pretend to know what Igbos want. Some of you want Kanu's release. Other's just want demilitarilization of the SE. Every Igbo I know want more federal investment in SE. But again, I will let the Igbo leaders decide what they want. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Freedom34: 9:45pm On May 16, 2022 |
datola:Gbam! The mods shd've closed d thread after ur post as you've said everything in a few words: Nevertheless, be prepared to receive insults for ur troubles! ![]() |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Freedom34: 9:57pm On May 16, 2022 |
obailala:Hmpphh! ![]() |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Idiko1: 10:19pm On May 16, 2022 |
Kwashiman:If you are actually an Igbo person, you must be the Efulefu. You moronically tend to forget Ndigbo and Biafrans lost something at the battlefield. Until that thing is regained by any known or unknown means, politics in Nigeria is not for Ndigbo. In US right after the civil war, the confederate south was allowed to produce leaders even more than the north (Yankee). Africans are incarnate of foolish demons. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Polchiz(m): 11:24pm On May 16, 2022 |
Kwashiman:STOP deceiving yourself. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by WhizdomXX(m): 11:54pm On May 16, 2022 |
Kwashiman:.most intelligent political write-up I've seen from an Igbo. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Idiko1: 12:01am On May 17, 2022 |
WhizdomXX:I guess birds of the same feather. He forgot there was a war between Biafra and Nigeria. In addition, he forgot the inhabitants of Nigeria are dumbass Africans too. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Nobody: 12:05am On May 17, 2022 |
obailala:Stop wasting your precious time educating the dude. he is a graduate of Biafra sit-at-home University!. |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Nobody: 12:11am On May 17, 2022 |
Kwashiman:Very intelligent write-up. This, above, summarizes my opinion as well. Your writing are hard to read though!. Good job! |
| Re: As An Igbo Man, I'm Deeply Worried About Our Political Naivety by Idiko1: 12:14am On May 17, 2022 |
datola:Is there anything wrong for a group of people to seek self-determination? People from south-east geopolitical region of Nigeria do not want certain goons from northern region of Nigeria as compatriots. |
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