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tctrills:
Job 14.22, psalms 16.10,

So where was it used interchangeably? Lol

Maynman:
Shameless liar, I never said such Maybe you are confusing me with another person, I understand
Grabbing to straws now
Spirit and soul means different thing, It is written all over your Bible.

This your frustration is becoming something else o!
Whenever you goofed and anyone try to help you he or she becomes a Shameless liar i wonder when you'll find a SHAMEFULLY LIAR!

MaxInDHouse:
This your frustration is becoming something else o!
Whenever you goofed and anyone try to help you he or she becomes a Shameless liar i wonder when you'll find a SHAMEFULLY LIAR!

This your lies are becoming too shameless, don’t you have shame? How do you live with yourself?
Shameless liar that’s what you represent. Is this what Jehovah witness encompass. Lying so brutally. How low can you go?

Maynman:
So where was it used interchangeably? Lol

I don't get your question, Please ask a clear question

tctrills:
I don't get your question, Please ask a clear question

Seems you didn’t understand the question I asked previously before you answer, kindly go back and read it slowly.

Maynman:
You are a shameless liar, who said you were born a JWs? Petty liar
You have zero knowledge of Yoruba oriki or tradition. If you do you won’t call esu, satan and eleda means an angel. Mention the Yoruba books you read that you got from watchtower.

Aren’t you ashamed? How can you be lying to yourself this much? Don’t you have conscience?

In that thread where you copied that post i spoke about ÈṢÙ with his ORÍKÌ and challenged the OP to say what he knew about the ORÍKÌ of ÈṢÙ but he surrendered.
So why not take up the challenge and say the ORÍKÌ of any Yorùbá deity?
Àbí our forefathers read it in books before the whiteman introduced documenting in written forms?

Maynman:
Seems you didn’t understand the question I asked previously before you answer, kindly go back and read it slowly.

I am sure when you are ready, you would let out what's in your mind. I would be waiting for you here ok.

tctrills:
I am sure when you are ready, you would let out what's in your mind. I would be waiting for you here ok.

When you have the courage, you can go back and, read slowly and answer it. Ok

Maynman:
When you have the courage, you can go back and, read slowly and answer it. Ok

Ok sir I lack the courage, move on.

MaxInDHouse:
In that thread where you copied that post i spoke about ÈṢÙ with his ORÍKÌ and challenged the OP to say what he knew about the ORÍKÌ of ÈṢÙ but he surrendered.
So why not take up the challenge and say the ORÍKÌ of any Yorùbá deity?
Àbí our forefathers read it in books before the whiteman introduced documenting in written forms?

Another lie from a shameless liar, which oriki did you quote? Is that how they taught you in watchtower?
And in that oriki where did they mention satan?
The OP already answered you, how low can your lies get?
Why not take up the challenge and answer where you read that esu is satan, and eleda is angel. Is it hard to tell me?

tctrills:
Ok sir I lack the courage, move on.

It’s a shame.

Maynman:
It’s a shame.

Whatever makes you sleep at night sir

tctrills:
Whatever makes you sleep at night sir

Whatever keeps your illusion going sir.

Maynman:
Whatever keeps your illusion going sir.

Ok all the best

tctrills:
Ok all the best

Ride on sir.

LilMissFavvy:
Read Mat. 20:28 "fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. But rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell The person you have been arguing with is correct.

Is God going to kill the soul or he is going to make the soul suffer in hell forever. Pls answer this

tctrills:
I would do so but let's not divert, please.

Can you show me?

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Mikee19:
Good question OP. Lemme tell a little story...

So there's this kingdom somewhere with many enemies. These enemies are creating so much problem that they have to install a new king specifically to defeat them. Which of these is true of those enemies

A) They are non-concrete things like "anger", "lack of sleep", etc

B) They are concrete, but inanimate things like an overgrown forest that needs to be "conquered"

C) They are real persons antagonizing the kingdom. They need to be defeated ASAP!

Pls note your answer here, and don't change it up at all no matter what happens, because this particular answer is devoid of bias and is very honest, since you don't know exactly yet whose story I'm telling you.

Anyways:

NKJV Ps 110:1: "¹ A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”"

NKJV 1Co 15:25-26: "²⁵ For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. ²⁶ The last enemy that will be destroyed is death."

I just told you the story of Jesus. The passage you quoted is the actual fulfillment of Jesus defeating "death" his enemy. You know your original answer? Exactly!

To you death may be something inanimate, that can't be cast into a fire, but not so to God and Jesus. Similar for hell to being something literal as well...

You mind if i counter with another question tho? In this passage:

NKJV Mt 8:29: "²⁹ And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”"

What sort of "torment" were the demons afraid of? Actual literal torment was scaring them, or just something figurative and non-existent? Was there an actual time in future referred to by them, or they were just lying?

Choose your answer carefully

Maynman:
Another lie from a shameless liar, which oriki did you say? Is that how they taught you in watchword?
And in that oriki where did they mention satan?
The OP already answered you, how low can your lies get?
Why not take up the challenge and answer where you read that esu is satan, and eleda is angel. Is it hard to tell me?

You're just an arrogant novice arguing blindly after jamming strange information on the internet, and instead of verifying by observing the outcome you swallowed it hook line and sinker. Yorùbás don't have documentations rather it's the spirit of reminders (oògùn ìsọ̀yè) our people use back then to inculcate what we know in our memories.
So stop deceiving yourself with modern day scammers who are passing false informations on the internet. If anyone truly knows a deity the first thing is the ORÍKÌ of that deity. Among Yorùbá people ORÍKÌ is the most important that's why all tribes among Yorùbá have their own this helps to trace our lineage.
Obviously you're not even a Yorùbá man you're a Lagosians, born, bread and brought up in Lagos now trying to argue just because you could afford a phone to browse the internet!

Mikee19:
Good question OP. Lemme tell a little story...
So there's this kingdom somewhere with many enemies. These enemies are creating so much problem that they have to install a new king specifically to defeat them. Which of these is true of those enemies
A) They are non-concrete things like "anger", "lack of sleep", etc
B) They are concrete, but inanimate things like an overgrown forest that needs to be "conquered"
C) They are real persons antagonizing the kingdom. They need to be defeated ASAP!
Pls note your answer here, and don't change it up at all no matter what happens, because this particular answer is devoid of bias and is very honest, since you don't know exactly yet whose story I'm telling you.
Anyways:
NKJV Ps 110:1: "¹ A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”"
NKJV 1Co 15:25-26: "²⁵ For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. ²⁶ The last enemy that will be destroyed is death."
I just told you the story of Jesus. The passage you quoted is the actual fulfillment of Jesus defeating "death" his enemy. You know your original answer? Exactly!
To you death may be something inanimate, that can't be cast into a fire, but not so to God and Jesus. Similar for hell to being something literal as well...
You mind if i counter with another question tho? In this passage:
NKJV Mt 8:29: "²⁹ And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”"
What sort of "torment" were the demons afraid of? Actual literal torment was scaring them, or just something figurative and non-existent? Was there an actual time in future referred to by them, or they were just lying?
Choose your answer carefully

Below is the Oxford dictionary meaning of the word
TORMENT

(obsolete)
©A catapult or other kind of war-engine.
Torture, originally as inflicted by an instrument of torture.
©Any extreme pain, anguish or misery, either physical or mental.
(example)He was bitter from the torments of the divorce.

So the demons were telling Jesus not to disturb their temporary enjoyment after all God has restricted them from having dealings with their fellow angels in heaven {2Peter 2:4} and when they're idle the only thing they do with their being is living inside another being (human) {Matthew 12:43-45} they're also aware that a time has been set when they will not even have access to living mankind! Revelations 20:1-3


Jesus spoke in parables and symbolic terms {Matthew 13:13,34} so when he talked about FIRE he meant the feelings an unrepentant evildoer has, it's like saying someone is "sitting on fire" of course it doesn't mean literal fire but that he/she not enjoying himself or herself!

MaxInDHouse:
You're just an arrogant novice arguing blindly after jamming strange information on the internet, and instead of verifying by observing the outcome you swallowed it hook line and sinker. Yorùbás don't have documentations rather it's the spirit of reminders (oògùn ìsọ̀yè) our people use back then to inculcate what we know in our memories.
So stop deceiving yourself with modern day scammers who are passing false informations on the internet. If anyone truly knows a deity the first thing is the ORÍKÌ of that deity. Among Yorùbá people ORÍKÌ is the most important that's why all tribes among Yorùbá have their own this helps to trace our lineage.
Obviously you're not even a Yorùbá man you're a Lagosians, born, bread and brought up in Lagos now trying to argue just because you could afford a phone to browse the internet!

You are just a ignorant liar that will lie shamelessly without reason there’s no where in Yoruba history where they referred to esu, as Satan. You haven’t done any single research about the lies you are saying.
Who do you think you are deceiving with all these lies? Can you deceive yourself when you are alone?
How can you say you are a Yoruba person and you PRONOUNCED “eleda” and the next thing is to correlate it with “angel”, how possible?
Yorubas have documentation, enough of it. Stop disgracing yourself.
“Ogun isoye” is a charm and doesn’t translate to “spirit of reminders” anywhere in Yoruba history.
Oriki is not the most important in anywhere in Yoruba history. Oriki simply means “praises”.
You are the scammer that’s lying without conscience, Even the Samuel ajayi crowther translation has been disprove, but your watchtower agenda won’t agree with it. Fallen watchers.
Esu is also called eleega. You are a shame, when you are Alone How do you live with yourself with so much lies. You are shameless.
You are not a modern scammer,you are a senseless scammer, cause all what you are saying are BARE FACE WRONG, and you know. You didn’t get it from anywhere, you formed it up. Don’t you have conscience? What has yaldaboath and the fallen watchers turn you to?

Maynman:
You are just a ignorant liar that will shamelessly without reason there’s no where in Yoruba history where they referred to esu, as Satan. You haven’t done any single research about the lies you are saying.
How can you say you are a Yoruba person and you PRONOUNCED “eleda” and the next thing is to correlate it with “angel”, how possible?
Yorubas have documentation, enough of it. Stop disgracing yourself.
“Ogun isoye” is a charm and doesn’t translate to “spirit of reminders” anywhere in Yoruba history.
Oriki is not the most important in anywhere in Yoruba history. Oriki simply means “praises”.
You are the scammer that’s lying without conscience, Even the Samuel ajayi crowther translation has been disprove, but your watchtower agenda won’t agree with it. Fallen watchers.
Esu is also called eleega. You are a shame, when you are Alone How do you live with yourself with so much lies. You are shameless.

Stupidity will not kill you!

Even the Link you're quoting is telling you that it has become a controversy, which means it's the views of some against others not absolute TRUTH.
So to know the absolute truth on matters you need not quote what is still CONTROVERSIAL.
Any right thinking individual will ask for what is yielding result instead of the arguments of some against others!

MaxInDHouse:
Stupidity will not kill you!

Even the Link you're quoting is telling you that it has become a controversy, which means it's the views of some against others not absolute TRUTH.
So to know the absolute truth on matters you need not quote what is still CONTROVERSIAL.
Any right thinking individual will ask for what is yielding result instead of the arguments of some against others!

If you don’t stop your lies it will kill you. It is too bare face, don’t you have shame?
There’s no where it says there’s a controversy, it was explained explicitly. It has been proven to be FALSE. How do you live with your self with so much lies, have conscience you fallen watcher.
No right thinking individual will be lying so glaring like you, how are you doing it? Lying so bare face, will you be proud of your lies in the future.
How can a lying machine know what’s yielding results, you lie about the smallest thing, you are not in touch with reality again. You are shameless.

Maynman:
If you don’t stop your lies it will kill you. It is too bare face, don’t you have shame?
There’s no where it says there’s a controversy, it was explained explicitly. It has been proven to be FALSE. How do you live with your self with so much lies, have conscience you fallen watcher.
No right thinking individual will be lying so glaring like you, how are you doing it? Lying so bare face, will you be proud of your lies in the future.
How can a lying machine know what’s yielding results, you lie about the smallest thing, you are not in touch with reality again. You are shameless.

I know you're tired of living so your death will not come through me!

SECRET!
The other guy realized where i was pushing him, that's why he surrendered.
I gave him the introduction of the Eulogy of ÈṢÙ perhaps he will go further than what i said.
For your information you stupid fool.
Anyone who goes further than what i mentioned but don't know how to appease ÈṢÙ will face the wrath of ẸBỌRA tíí jẹ́ Ọláátọpa.
But it's obvious you're just tired of life so I will leave you alone!

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MaxInDHouse:
I know you're tired of living so your death will not come through me!

SECRET!
The other guy realized where i was pushing him, that's why he surrendered.
I gave him the introduction of the Eulogy of ÈṢÙ perhaps he will go further than what i said.
For your information you stupid fool.
Anyone who goes further than what i mentioned but don't know how to appease ÈṢÙ will face the wrath of ẸBỌRA tíí jẹ́ Ọláátọpa.
But it's obvious you're just tired of life so I will leave you alone!

I know you are scared of your masters in watchtower, you’ll do anything to keep their lies a secret. Your continuous lies of calling esu, satan and calling “eleda” as angel has already exposed you and if you don’t stop peddling that false lie, you will DIE SHAMELESSLY.
The guy in the other thread already answered you on that thread, and it’s you that is yet to answer him, can’t you do without lies? How low can you go

You never said anything about the eulogy of esu, just some common words And which exact eulogy are you talking about? Is it “esu odara”? Or “esu laalu” eulogy.. which exact oriki of eshu did you quote?

You shameless liar “Ebora ti je olaatopa” is a very common phrase used for esu, and it’s just a small fraction of the oriki and it has nothing do with satan aka yaldaboath.
You are only deceiving yourself, yaldaboath and the fallen watchers. You’ve failed.

MaxInDHouse:
I know you're tired of living so your death will not come through me!

SECRET!
The other guy realized where i was pushing him, that's why he surrendered.
I gave him the introduction of the Eulogy of ÈṢÙ perhaps he will go further than what i said.
For your information you stupid fool.
Anyone who goes further than what i mentioned but don't know how to appease ÈṢÙ will face the wrath of ẸBỌRA tíí jẹ́ Ọláátọpa.
But it's obvious you're just tired of life so I will leave you alone!

Unlike your yaldaboath, esu doesn’t bring wrath unwarranted. You are making no sense with all your false assumptions, it doesn’t connect. Stop disgracing yourself.
When you are alone, how do you live with yourself with so much lies? How do you cope? Don’t you have conscience,lying so bare face and shamelessly.
You know nothing about the “oriki” you are talking about, you just hurriedly copied a part of it somewhere in the books fallen watchers gave you, you are callous and shameless for Deliberately altering a bare face truth.
If you don’t stop, it’s LIES THAT WILL KILL YOU, and your master, yaldaboath will welcome you into his abode.
Your lies are too glaring and utterly flawed.

Umm sorry sir but you have the "noun" definition of that word "torment". All these you've put here is torment as a noun.

In the verse i gave they were asking Jesus not to torment (verb) them, that's actually do something to them, i.e. torment as an action word!

So what's "torment" as a verb from your Oxford dictionary sir?

MaxInDHouse:
Below is the Oxford dictionary meaning of the word
TORMENT

(obsolete)
©A catapult or other kind of war-engine.
Torture, originally as inflicted by an instrument of torture.
©Any extreme pain, anguish or misery, either physical or mental.
(example)He was bitter from the torments of the divorce.

So the demons were telling Jesus not to disturb their temporary enjoyment after all God has restricted them from having dealings with their fellow angels in heaven {2Peter 2:4} and when they're idle the only thing they do with their being is living inside another being (human) {Matthew 12:43-45} they're also aware that a time has been set when they will not even have access to living mankind! Revelations 20:1-3


Jesus spoke in parables and symbolic terms {Matthew 13:13,34} so when he talked about FIRE he meant the feelings an unrepentant evildoer has, it's like saying someone is "sitting on fire" of course it doesn't mean literal fire but that he/she not enjoying himself or herself!

Maynman:
Unlike your yaldaboath, esu doesn’t bring wrath unwarranted. You are making no sense with all your false assumptions, it doesn’t connect. Stop disgracing yourself.
When you are alone, how do you live with yourself with so much lies? How do you cope? Don’t you have conscience,lying so bare face and shamelessly.
You know nothing about the “oriki” you are talking about, you just hurriedly copied a part of it somewhere in the books fallen watchers gave you, you are callous and shameless for Deliberately altering a bare face truth.
If you don’t stop, it’s LIES THAT WILL KILL YOU, and your master, yaldaboath will welcome you into his abode.
Your lies are too glaring and utterly flawed.

What you don't know is that people from all races are trying to refute what the Bible say about their various cultures and traditions as the Jews claimed that all other races worship what they don't know! John 4:22
So they're now protesting against the Bible, but someone like me don't just follow agitators rather i'll go straight to the PRACTICAL to be certain of what they're arguing about.
ÈṢÙ is the same as Satan in the Bible but if anyone truly wants to prove God's word wrong let him present the WORKS of ÈṢÙ in any human society.
There's no need arguing blindly over what a thief means just present the activities of thieves in any human society!

MaxInDHouse:
What you don't know is that people from all races are trying to refute what the Bible say about their various cultures and traditions as the Jews claimed that all other races worship what they don't know! John 4:22
So they're now protesting against the Bible, but someone like me don't just follow agitators rather i'll go straight to the PRACTICAL to be certain of what they're arguing about.
ÈṢÙ is the same as Satan in the Bible but if anyone truly wants to prove God's word wrong let him present the WORKS of ÈṢÙ in any human society.
There's no need arguing blindly over what a thief means just present the activities of thieves in any human society!

Esu is not same as satan anywhere in Yoruba history, Bible was written in Hebrew, “esu” is a Yoruba word. And it has been proven to be false, you are only holding on to it because of the agenda of the fallen watchers of yaldaboath. Stop disgracing yourself. Satan has been properly named as satani and bilisi.
You are lying blindly without shame.
Esu is a Yoruba word, it’s not a Hebrew word the language that Bible was written before translated to English, all these are obvious, stop lying bare face.

MaxInDHouse:
What you don't know is that people from all races are trying to refute what the Bible say about their various cultures and traditions as the Jews claimed that all other races worship what they don't know! John 4:22
So they're now protesting against the Bible, but someone like me don't just follow agitators rather i'll go straight to the PRACTICAL to be certain of what they're arguing about.
ÈṢÙ is the same as Satan in the Bible but if anyone truly wants to prove God's word wrong let him present the WORKS of ÈṢÙ in any human society.
There's no need arguing blindly over what a thief means just present the activities of thieves in any human society!

This is the work of eshu, your mother didn’t tell you?
Esu is only found in the Yoruba history. Stop disgracing yourself.
You and I know that your god, yaldaboath with his fallen watchers which you are part of, are the shameless thieves and irritant liars.

Mikee19:
Umm sorry sir but you have the "noun" definition of that word "torment". All these you've put here is torment as a noun.
In the verse i gave they were asking Jesus not to torment (verb) them, that's actually do something to them, i.e. torment as an action word!
So what's "torment" as a verb from your Oxford dictionary sir?

The noun and verb correlates as Jesus only wanted to deprive them of their temporary enjoyment. But according to the Bible a time is coming when Jesus will torment them for a long time (one thousand years) Revelations 20:1-3
So the torment here is about depriving them of what they enjoy doing!

MaxInDHouse:
What you don't know is that people from all races are trying to refute what the Bible say about their various cultures and traditions as the Jews claimed that all other races worship what they don't know! John 4:22
So they're now protesting against the Bible, but someone like me don't just follow agitators rather i'll go straight to the PRACTICAL to be certain of what they're arguing about.
ÈṢÙ is the same as Satan in the Bible but if anyone truly wants to prove God's word wrong let him present the WORKS of ÈṢÙ in any human society.
There's no need arguing blindly over what a thief means just present the activities of thieves in any human society!

Fallen watcher of yaldaboath.
Stop disgracing yourself, you’ll regret all these lies in the future. Posterity will judge you.
Esu is not satan anywhere in Yoruba history.