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RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by gartamanta(op): 6:40pm On May 22, 2022
So in the other thread of similar name, someone said Ikwerres are not Igbo and buttressed it with some differences in the central Igbo language and Ikwerre language.

I decided to compare the numbers 1 to 10 in with central Igbo and Ikwerre language


1 to 10 in Igbo and Ikwerre

1 = Otu(Igbo), Otu(Ikwerre)

2 = Abuo(Igbo), Ebo(Ikwerre)

3 = Ato(Igbo), Eto(Ikwerre)

4 = Ano(Igbo), Eno(Ikwerre

5 = Ise(Igbo), Ise(Ikwerre)

6 = Isii or Ishii(Igbo), Isiinu or Ishiinu(Ikwerre)

7 = Asaa(Igbo), Esaawu(Ikwerre)

8 = Asato(Igbo), Esato(Ikwerre)

9 = Itolu(Igbo), Tolu(Ikwerre)

10 = Iri(Igbo), Ri(Ikwerre)

Any similarities?
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by duro4chang(m): 6:47pm On May 22, 2022
gartamanta:
So in the other thread of similar name, someone said Ikwerres are not Igbo and buttressed it with some differences in the central Igbo language and Ikwerre language.

I decided to compare the numbers 1 to 10 in with central Igbo and Ikwerre language


1 to 10 in Igbo and Ikwerre

1 = Otu(Igbo), Otu(Ikwerre)

2 = Abuo(Igbo), Ebo(Ikwerre)

3 = Ato(Igbo), Eto(Ikwerre)

4 = Ano(Igbo), Eno(Ikwerre

5 = Ise(Igbo), Ise(Ikwerre)

6 = Isii or Ishii(Igbo), Isiinu or Ishiinu(Ikwerre)

7 = Asaa(Igbo), Esaawu(Ikwerre)

8 = Asato(Igbo), Esato(Ikwerre)

9 = Itolu(Igbo), Tolu(Ikwerre)

10 = Iri(Igbo), Ri(Ikwerre)

Any similarities?
Language cannot be used please . Check Yoruba and igala languages. About one quarters similar yet they are not the same tribe.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Onyiiobi7735(m): 7:03pm On May 22, 2022
duro4chang:
Language cannot be used please . Check Yoruba and igala languages. About one quarters similar yet they are not the same tribe.
Ikwerre are Igbo.They bear Igbo names and their dialect is intelligible to any SE Igbo man.I live in Ikwerre territory in Rivers.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by duro4chang(m):
Onyiiobi7735:
Ikwerre are Igbo.They bear Igbo names and their dialect is intelligible to any SE Igbo man.I live in Ikwerre territory in Rivers.
But they claim they are not. Remember self determination. Many Akoko Edo can speak yoruba and even bear yoruba name but they claim they are not yoruba. Let them be now
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by EmmaJnr1: 7:11pm On May 22, 2022
gartamanta:
So in the other thread of similar name, someone said Ikwerres are not Igbo and buttressed it with some differences in the central Igbo language and Ikwerre language.

I decided to compare the numbers 1 to 10 in with central Igbo and Ikwerre language


1 to 10 in Igbo and Ikwerre

1 = Otu(Igbo), Otu(Ikwerre)

2 = Abuo(Igbo), Ebo(Ikwerre)

3 = Ato(Igbo), Eto(Ikwerre)

4 = Ano(Igbo), Eno(Ikwerre

5 = Ise(Igbo), Ise(Ikwerre)

6 = Isii or Ishii(Igbo), Isiinu or Ishiinu(Ikwerre)

7 = Asaa(Igbo), Esaawu(Ikwerre)

8 = Asato(Igbo), Esato(Ikwerre)

9 = Itolu(Igbo), Tolu(Ikwerre)

10 = Iri(Igbo), Ri(Ikwerre)

Any similarities?
Ikwere Igbo and Nsuka Igbo are similar, all those numbers above for ikwere is what Nsuka people also call the numbers.

Igbo bu Igbo.

I will drop a post about Igbo dielects and its speakers in igboland of Enugu, Rivers, Delta, anambara, ebonyi, abia, Imo, and Igbo's in other parts of Nigeria
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Advocate500: 7:12pm On May 22, 2022
Onyiiobi7735:
Ikwerre are Igbo.They bear Igbo names and their dialect is intelligible to any SE Igbo man.I live in Ikwerre territory in Rivers.
oga allow this thing to slide, don't engage people who said they are different from, you are making them to feel unnecessary importance pls,some of you should get over this nonsense pls .


Ikwere being part of igbo what value does it add to your life? Because it brings nothing to me .i don't think we need them more than they need us.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by virginchaser(m): 7:15pm On May 22, 2022
Why must you force a tribe to join your tribe. Is there any other motive behind the scene?
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Golan007: 7:25pm On May 22, 2022
They say they aren't Eboe.

You insist they are.

grin

This matter sef.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Iykmann(m): 7:27pm On May 22, 2022
What is so special about ikwerre people being igbo,
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by youngaliwa(m): 7:36pm On May 22, 2022
They are not Igbo simple.




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Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by chrisxxx(m): 7:46pm On May 22, 2022
duro4chang:
Language cannot be used please . Check Yoruba and igala languages. About one quarters similar yet they are not the same tribe.
Educated mind has spoken. Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland speak same language but different people. Malaysia and Indonesia same language but different people. Poland and Ukraine similar language but different people. Urhobo and Isoko similar language different people. Bini and Yoruba similar language but different people.
The Ikwerres don't have any problem with Igbos saying they are Ikwerres. However the Ikwerres vehemently deny they are igbos.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by chrisxxx(m): 7:48pm On May 22, 2022
virginchaser:
Why must you force a tribe to join your tribe. Is there any other motive behind the scene?
They want subject. But trust the Ikwerres we are very proud people.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Chimaraymond455: 8:06pm On May 22, 2022
I think this issue of ikwerres been Igbo or not has been settled,
So why bringing it againhuh
Nigeria government should do needful and conduct a referendum,
Nobody is forcing any body to be or not to.
Igbo is our closet neighbor, not ijaw or Yoruba,
our great ground mother's,
Ground mothers,
mother's
Wife's
are all igbos
so allow the ikwerres to be for now.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Polchiz(m): 8:08pm On May 22, 2022
duro4chang:
Language cannot be used please . Check Yoruba and igala languages. About one quarters similar yet they are not the same tribe.
Nobody cares who Ikwerres are.

Wike said they are Edo outcasts.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by duro4chang(m): 8:58pm On May 22, 2022
Polchiz:
Nobody cares who Ikwerres are.

Wike said they are Edo outcasts.
What do you mean by outcasts? Must you insult them for you to make your point?
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Mrexcell(m): 9:12pm On May 22, 2022
Don't waste ur time op the whole denials is deeply rooted in nigeria's politics the calculation is for ikweres to have their own separate identity so that the nigerian state won't persecute and marginalize them just like they are currently doing to their brothers in the five eastern states. Umahi of ebonyi is also trying to mobilize his people to take this same route.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Mrexcell(m): 9:19pm On May 22, 2022
Advocate500:
oga allow this thing to slide, don't engage people who said they are different from, you are making them to feel unnecessary importance pls,some of you should get over this nonsense pls .


Ikwere being part of igbo what value does it add to your life? Because it brings nothing to me .i don't think we need them more than they need us.
Well said I have also been having this same arguments I honestly don't see anything too special about the ikweres for me to worry about them having their own separate identity from the larger igbo nation.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Polchiz(m): 12:08am On May 23, 2022
duro4chang:
What do you mean by outcasts? Must you insult them for you to make your point?
Gov Wike said so
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by slivertongue: 3:09am On May 23, 2022
duro4chang:
Language cannot be used please . Check Yoruba and igala languages. About one quarters similar yet they are not the same tribe.
Linguistic in this case holds water. The speak alike. The fight between them is political and took root in 1971
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by OkwuEziokwu(m): 4:13am On May 23, 2022
Bro, please stop creating threads like this. We don't need to prove anything to Nigerians. When the time comes, we will all see.

#BiafraExit
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by SaintBishop: 4:15am On May 23, 2022
Chimaraymond455:
I think this issue of ikwerres been Igbo or not has been settled,
So why bringing it againhuh
Nigeria government should do needful and conduct a referendum,
Nobody is forcing any body to be or not to.
Igbo is our closet neighbor, not ijaw or Yoruba,
our great ground mother's,
Ground mothers,
mother's
Wife's
are all igbos
so allow the ikwerres to be for now.
Ikwerres are not Igbos grin
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by spearman(m): 4:27am On May 23, 2022
No Igbo outside of this cannibal map. Follow the science of cultural anthropology. It is no an easy decision for a culture decide to chop human beings. Those who clearly chose not to do so obviously are not Igbo.

Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by duro4chang(m): 6:06am On May 23, 2022
slivertongue:
Linguistic in this case holds water. The speak alike. The fight between them is political and took root in 1971
They say they are not igbo there is nothing you can do about it. Must it be by force. As a Nigeria if I renounce my nationality , move to ghana ana claim to be a Ghanian, is there a crime in that?
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by duro4chang(m): 6:11am On May 23, 2022
Polchiz:
Gov Wike said so
No. There is no place where he mentione the word outcasts. You can show me the link where he said it. Let us remember what the UNO call self determination.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Risentouch(m): 7:38am On May 23, 2022
Wike said he is not Igbo.

Amaechi said he is Igbo.

And the two are both Ikwere, how do you reconcile that?
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Chuksaluta(m): 7:48am On May 23, 2022
gartamanta:
So in the other thread of similar name, someone said Ikwerres are not Igbo and buttressed it with some differences in the central Igbo language and Ikwerre language.

I decided to compare the numbers 1 to 10 in with central Igbo and Ikwerre language


1 to 10 in Igbo and Ikwerre

1 = Otu(Igbo), Otu(Ikwerre)

2 = Abuo(Igbo), Ebo(Ikwerre)

3 = Ato(Igbo), Eto(Ikwerre)

4 = Ano(Igbo), Eno(Ikwerre

5 = Ise(Igbo), Ise(Ikwerre)

6 = Isii or Ishii(Igbo), Isiinu or Ishiinu(Ikwerre)

7 = Asaa(Igbo), Esaawu(Ikwerre)

8 = Asato(Igbo), Esato(Ikwerre)

9 = Itolu(Igbo), Tolu(Ikwerre)

10 = Iri(Igbo), Ri(Ikwerre)

Any similarities?
I don't understand your intent. Ikwerre's say they are not igbo now, respect them please. Its not by force. Or what do they add to you if they become igbo?
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by slivertongue: 9:47am On May 23, 2022
duro4chang:
They say they are not igbo there is nothing you can do about it. Must it be by force. As a Nigeria if I renounce my nationality , move to ghana ana claim to be a Ghanian, is there a crime in that?
I didn't say 'they are' people are free to claim an identity. All I stated is from their record.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by duro4chang(m): 10:06am On May 23, 2022
slivertongue:
I didn't say 'they are' people are free to claim an identity. All I stated is from their record.
It is all right
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by spearman(m): 11:38am On May 23, 2022
Risentouch:
Wike said he is not Igbo.

Amaechi said he is Igbo.

And the two are both Ikwere, how do you reconcile that?
Why do you have to reconcile them?
The UN says their must be be NO DISPUTES, AMBIGUITIES & COUNTERCLAIMS about territories being incorporated into new nations. That is the very reason we say the idea of any inch of the Niger Delta being inside Biafra is ZERO. Only nairaland children hallucinate about Delta Igbo.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by aribisala0(m): 12:35pm On May 23, 2022
gartamanta:
So in the other thread of similar name, someone said Ikwerres are not Igbo and buttressed it with some differences in the central Igbo language and Ikwerre language.

I decided to compare the numbers 1 to 10 in with central Igbo and Ikwerre language


1 to 10 in Igbo and Ikwerre

1 = Otu(Igbo), Otu(Ikwerre)

2 = Abuo(Igbo), Ebo(Ikwerre)

3 = Ato(Igbo), Eto(Ikwerre)

4 = Ano(Igbo), Eno(Ikwerre

5 = Ise(Igbo), Ise(Ikwerre)

6 = Isii or Ishii(Igbo), Isiinu or Ishiinu(Ikwerre)

7 = Asaa(Igbo), Esaawu(Ikwerre)

8 = Asato(Igbo), Esato(Ikwerre)

9 = Itolu(Igbo), Tolu(Ikwerre)

10 = Iri(Igbo), Ri(Ikwerre)

Any similarities?
Language does not define a people

Linguistics is totally distinct to genetics or origin
French Spanish Italian
un uno uno
deux dos due
trois tres tre
quart cuatro quattro
cinq cinco cinque
six seis sei
sept siete sette
huit ocho otto
neuf nueve nove
dix diez dieci


Even among those groups who agree they are Igbo they are of different origins and do not claim a single ancestor

Ikwerre and Igbo are languages that belong to the same family of Languages just like French and Italian so there will be similarities


There are many words in Igbo that look or sound like Yoruba words. What does that prove ? Proximity and interaction at some time unknown
Okuta = stone
Akpo = bag or sack
Enu = Mouth
Ile = ground
Imu = Nose
Eti = ear
Ewure =goat
Ile/Ule =House
Apoti = box
Cock= akuko
Iba= fever
Ko= Crow
gbongbo =root
Eru = Slave
Orisa = deity/god
Gbo = hear
Agbon= chin
Afefe= wind
Ibi= here/place
Egbe= coeval/age group/mate
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by Galaxyowerri(m): 12:42pm On May 23, 2022
spearman:
Why do you have to reconcile them?
The UN says their must be be NO DISPUTES, AMBIGUITIES & COUNTERCLAIMS about territories being incorporated into new nations. That is the very reason we say the idea of any inch of the Niger Delta being inside Biafra is ZERO. Only nairaland children hallucinate about Delta Igbo.
Stop decieving yourself, Niger Delta contains Imo and Abia States including farther states like Edo and Cross River States, and can never stand as one nation for obvious reasons.

For you to believe that Delta Igbos will rather go with Uhrobo, Ijaw and Itshekiri instead of fellow Igbos in SE shows how ignorant you are.

As for ikwerre, they can be whoever they want or even go to hell, we Igbos don't give a damn about them. They're only using our identity to gain relevance in Rivers State and by the time we realign with our Obigbo, Egbema and other Igbos of Rivers State, the ikwerres will be left with their 2 & half local governments and that's when Ijaws will turn them to slaves.
Re: RE::: Ikwerre Said They Are Not Igbo? by spearman(m):
Galaxyowerri:
Stop decieving yourself, Niger Delta contains Imo and Abia States including farther states like Edo and Cross River States, and can never stand as one nation for obvious reasons.

For you to believe that Delta Igbos will rather go with Uhrobo, Ijaw and Itshekiri instead of fellow Igbos in SE shows how ignorant you are.

As for ikwerre, they can be whoever they want or even go to hell, we Igbos don't give a damn about them. They're only using our identity to gain relevance in Rivers State and by the time we realign with our Obigbo, Egbema and other Igbos of Rivers State, the ikwerres will be left with their 2 & half local governments and that's when Ijaws will turn them to slaves.
1. Anioma recorded the highest percentage of YES Votes 97% in the 1963 Midwest Referendum having rejected a choice of joining Eastern Nigeria.

2. Ojukwu invaded the Midwest with the full powers of a war dictator but even he had the good sence to leave Anioma out of the Midwest. When he finally annoced the shorth live Republic of Benin, he left Anioma in the Midwest.

3. Anioma people no dey chop human beings.

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