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tylann:
We're building One of the biggest ports in Africa lamu port
Mombasa port is being expanded almost every year with massive special economic zone behind it

1 vs 8

tylann:
Electricity connections is still under expansion

and IPPs have been approved in SA....so yeah

tylann:
You only mentioned population growth meaning it was your main factor..why didn't you mention infrastructure development

I said it was a driving factor.........and infrastructure development is also driven by population growth

jl115:
1 vs 8

Lamu port will dwarf any port in subsaharan Africa

jl115:
and IPPs have been approved in SA....so yeah

Kenya is trying to renegotiate ipps to bring down the cost of power

jl115:
I said it was a driving factor.........and infrastructure development is also driven by population growth

Okay I agree but don't compare us to Nigeria

tylann:
Lamu port will dwarf any port in subsaharan Africa

You mean the one that is looking increasing like it won't be completed?

tylann:
Okay I agree but don't compare us to Nigeria

Then don't compare Kenya to South Africa

jl115:
what i said originally:



In terms of what is Kenya going to catch SA?....we already know it ain't economy, can't be road network because we are at least 80 years(11th in the world), can't be rail because we are over a 100 years ahead there(13th in the world), can't be airports(20th in the world), not see ports, can't be sporting infrastructure, definitely not catching our Universities, not catching our Health sector(especially private)

so you ain't catching our economy or infrastructure....so what exactly are you catching??

Economy - give Kenya 10yrs.
Infrastructure - give Kenya 20yrs, as I said.
Airports - give Kenya 5yrs... Kenya is now becoming a tourist hub, and that will def drive the urge of setting up more airports.
Universities... We've changed our system, Watch out for the pace... If we're already ahead of you in international schools, what makes it hard for Kenya not to catch up with your unis?
Health sectors: give us 10yrs. We're currently building special cancer units in Africa. The kidney center is now done, we'll not have to travel abroad to seek some special treatment. Soon, we'll have the best medical infrastructure.
Tech -- don't ask. We're 3yrs behind you.
Electricity access --- with the current load shedding in SA, it just points out the reality on the ground; Maybe in 5yrs, we will have I've passed you. I believe by then, we'll have universal electricity coverage.
In rail infrastructure, maybe we need 15yrs - an electric rail system is in the plan. Railway city will pioneer all the rail projects in the country, and it's breaking ground in July. SGR stations and viaducts are something else, I don't know if SA can stand.
Road infrastructure: give Kenya 20yrs -
Road infrastructure is all over the place. We just need a policy that will allow residents to build roads to their doorsteps - this will reduce 20yrs to 10.
Sports center: that is something that can only take 4yrs if we fully embark on it.
Nairobi vs Joburg - give it 10yrs Max, to catch up. We just need to focus on proper residential housing and horizontal infrastructure.
Skyscrapers: Nairobi is overtaking South Africa as a whole in 2030. Mark this tweet.

tylann:
Lamu port will dwarf any port in subsaharan Africa

Including Lekki deep Sea Port?? Note that the construction of Africa's largest deep sea port (Badagry deep sea port) started officially in March 2022.

jl115:
yes!!

Population doesn't equate to an economy, but it is a driver of the economy - Only with one condition: if the population is productive.

I see Samboro here ready to defend SA. He wants to play some psychological stunts to make the thread get to Kenya vs SA.

We're smart enough.

Shma:
I see Samboro here ready to defend SA. He wants to play some psychological stunts to make the thread get to Kenya vs SA.

We're smart enough.

Lol there is not to play. SA and Kenya in the same sentence is a sick joke. SA is like 50 years ahead of anything in Kenya. Know this and know peace. This online daydreaming is for kids with candies in both hands.

Shma:
Economy - give Kenya 10yrs.
Infrastructure - give Kenya 20yrs, as I said.
Airports - give Kenya 5yrs... Kenya is now becoming a tourist hub, and that will def drive the urge of setting up more airports.
Universities... We've changed our system, Watch out for the pace... If we're already ahead of you in international schools, what makes it hard for Kenya not to catch up with your unis?
Health sectors: give us 10yrs. We're currently building special cancer units in Africa. The kidney center is now done, we'll not have to travel abroad to seek some special treatment. Soon, we'll have the best medical infrastructure.
Tech -- don't ask. We're 3yrs behind you.
Electricity access --- with the current load shedding in SA, it just points out the reality on the ground; Maybe in 5yrs, we will have I've passed you. I believe by then, we'll have universal electricity coverage.
In rail infrastructure, maybe we need 15yrs - an electric rail system is in the plan. Railway city will pioneer all the rail projects in the country, and it's breaking ground in July. SGR stations and viaducts are something else, I don't know if SA can stand.
Road infrastructure: give Kenya 20yrs -
Road infrastructure is all over the place. We just need a policy that will allow residents to build roads to their doorsteps - this will reduce 20yrs to 10.
Sports center: that is something that can only take 4yrs if we fully embark on it.
Nairobi vs Joburg - give it 10yrs Max, to catch up. We just need to focus on proper residential housing and horizontal infrastructure.
Skyscrapers: Nairobi is overtaking South Africa as a whole in 2030. Mark this tweet.

This right here is pure day dreaming.
Just go get your filters

Shma:
Economy - give Kenya 10yrs.
Infrastructure - give Kenya 20yrs, as I said.
Airports - give Kenya 5yrs... Kenya is now becoming a tourist hub, and that will def drive the urge of setting up more airports.
Universities... We've changed our system, Watch out for the pace... If we're already ahead of you in international schools, what makes it hard for Kenya not to catch up with your unis?
Health sectors: give us 10yrs. We're currently building special cancer units in Africa. The kidney center is now done, we'll not have to travel abroad to seek some special treatment. Soon, we'll have the best medical infrastructure.
Tech -- don't ask. We're 3yrs behind you.
Electricity access --- with the current load shedding in SA, it just points out the reality on the ground. Maybe in 5yrs, we will have I've passed you. I believe by then, we'll have universal electricity coverage.
In rail infrastructure, maybe we need 15yrs - an electric rail system is in the plan. Railway city will pioneer all the rail projects in the country, and it's breaking ground in July. SGR stations and viaducts are something else, I don't know if SA can stand.
Road infrastructure: give Kenya 20yrs -
Road infrastructure is all over the place. We just need a policy that will allow residents to build roads to their doorsteps - this will reduce 20yrs to 10.
Sports center: that is something that can only take 4yrs if we fully embark on it.
Nairobi vs Joburg - give it 10yrs Max, to catch up. We just need to focus on proper residential housing and horizontal infrastructure..
Skyscrapers: Nairobi is overtaking South Africa as a whole in 2030. Mark this tweet.

- Where is Kenya in 2050?

- Kenya has a 11% infrastructure spending gap vs 0.6% for SA...... but you catching us in 20 years?? i

- So in 5 years Kenya will be 19th in terms of Airports in the world?

- University rankings - 8 of the top 10 universities in Africa are SAn....the other two are Egyptian.....Kenya's highest ranking university is 12th....next best is 52nd - also don't know what you mean by leading us in terms of international schools?

- First heart transplant, first penis transplant, cured deafness, leading world authority on heart disease, invented the CAT scan............yet you claim you are only a few years away from having the best medical infrastructure?

- Technology? 2021 innovation index ranking 34th SA vs Kenya 95th.....but you are only 3 years away you say?

- Government has approved IPPs meaning we don't have to relay on Eskom anymore and we will pay cheaper for electricity WHICH already is significantly cheaper than electricity in Kenya

- So you saying Kenya will have the 12th longest rail network in 15 years?

- So you saying Kenya will have the 10th longest Road network in 20 years?

- South Africa 40 000 capacity stadiums - 16 ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Kenya 1......but ou catching in 4 years?

- Skyscrapers SA 60+.....Kenya 18

Shma:
Population doesn't equate to an economy, but it is a driver of the economy - Only with one condition: if the population is productive.

Literally what I said

jl115:
- Where is Kenya in 2050?

- Kenya has a 11% infrastructure spending gap vs 0.6% for SA...... but you catching us in 20 years?? i

- So in 5 years Kenya will be 19th in terms of Airports in the world?

- University rankings - 8 of the top 10 universities in Africa are SAn....the other two are Egyptian.....Kenya's highest ranking university is 12th....next best is 52nd - also don't know what you mean by leading us in terms of international schools?

- First heart transplant, first penis transplant, cured deafness, leading world authority on heart disease, invented the CAT scan............yet you claim you are only a few years away from having the best medical infrastructure?

- Technology? 2021 innovation index ranking 34th SA vs Kenya 95th.....but you are only 3 years away you say?

- Government has approved IPPs meaning we don't have to relay on Eskom anymore and we will pay cheaper for electricity WHICH already is significantly cheaper than electricity in Kenya

- So you saying Kenya will have the 12th longest rail network in 15 years?

- So you saying Kenya will have the 10th longest Road network in 20 years?

- South Africa 40 000 capacity stadiums - 16 ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Kenya 1......but ou catching in 4 years?

- Skyscrapers SA 60+.....Kenya 18

I'm taking of catching up with the current SA.

Shma:
I'm taking of catching up with the current SA.

What I posted is the current SA

Shma:
I'm taking of catching up with the current SA.

What da hell are you smoking man .

jl115:
Literally what I said

So you're basically saying that the Kenyan economy is predominantly driven by productive human beings, right?

jl115:
- Where is Kenya in 2050?

- Kenya has a 11% infrastructure spending gap vs 0.6% for SA...... but you catching us in 20 years?? i

- So in 5 years Kenya will be 19th in terms of Airports in the world?

- University rankings - 8 of the top 10 universities in Africa are SAn....the other two are Egyptian.....Kenya's highest ranking university is 12th....next best is 52nd - also don't know what you mean by leading us in terms of international schools?

- First heart transplant, first penis transplant, cured deafness, leading world authority on heart disease, invented the CAT scan............yet you claim you are only a few years away from having the best medical infrastructure?

- Technology? 2021 innovation index ranking 34th SA vs Kenya 95th.....but you are only 3 years away you say?

- Government has approved IPPs meaning we don't have to relay on Eskom anymore and we will pay cheaper for electricity WHICH already is significantly cheaper than electricity in Kenya

- So you saying Kenya will have the 12th longest rail network in 15 years?

- So you saying Kenya will have the 10th longest Road network in 20 years?

- South Africa 40 000 capacity stadiums - 16 ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Kenya 1......but ou catching in 4 years?

- Skyscrapers SA 60+.....Kenya 18

The best university in Kenya is in the top ten. Drop the list, I want to show you something.

jl115:
You mean the one that is looking increasing like it won't be completed?

3 berths are already completed so does some of the supporting infrastructure

jl115:
Then don't compare Kenya to South Africa

You started the comparison

We're catching up anyway with your stagnanting economy

jl115:
What I posted is the current SA

That's what I'm talking about, once we hit that level, add 10yrs to merge the curve.

It will be easier by then to overtake you - going by your slow growth rate in almost all spheres of development.

Shma:
I'm taking of catching up with the current SA.

Lol weep no more.

That’s how to handle idiot,the boer was quite impressive

Shma:
That's what I'm talking about, once we hit that level, add 10yrs to merge the curve.

It will be easier by then to overtake you - going by your slow growth rate in almost all spheres of development.

Lmao now you are foaming the mouth.

That’s what wicked fact slapping can do to someone psychologically. You’re suddenly out of words to defend your zoo. I wish the was a face to face convo. I need to see the look on your face

GeneralDae:
Including Lekki deep Sea Port?? Note that the construction of Africa's largest deep sea port (Badagry deep sea port) started officially in March 2022.

Maybe compare the size lamu port 3 berths are already working

tylann:
You started the comparison

We're catching up anyway with your stagnanting economy

Actually your economic growth will drop this year,so said imf.

From 7.5 to 5.7

jl115:
- Where is Kenya in 2050?

- Kenya has a 11% infrastructure spending gap vs 0.6% for SA...... but you catching us in 20 years?? i

- So in 5 years Kenya will be 19th in terms of Airports in the world?

- University rankings - 8 of the top 10 universities in Africa are SAn....the other two are Egyptian.....Kenya's highest ranking university is 12th....next best is 52nd - also don't know what you mean by leading us in terms of international schools?

- First heart transplant, first penis transplant, cured deafness, leading world authority on heart disease, invented the CAT scan............yet you claim you are only a few years away from having the best medical infrastructure?

- Technology? 2021 innovation index ranking 34th SA vs Kenya 95th.....but you are only 3 years away you say?

- Government has approved IPPs meaning we don't have to relay on Eskom anymore and we will pay cheaper for electricity WHICH already is significantly cheaper than electricity in Kenya

- So you saying Kenya will have the 12th longest rail network in 15 years?

- So you saying Kenya will have the 10th longest Road network in 20 years?

- South Africa 40 000 capacity stadiums - 16 ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Kenya 1......but ou catching in 4 years?

- Skyscrapers SA 60+.....Kenya 18

Kenya is light yrs ahead of IPPs Usage experience. Eskom debt will still haunt you and the current system - and your govnt will have to sweat before it suddenly adopts it. By then - 5yrs from now, Kenya will be enjoying universal coverage - @100% if not 99%... Debt-free.

Shma:
Don't allow that man to deceive you.

In 2022, the SA economy Is thrice ours.

In 2020, when covid19 wreaked havoc, SAn economy was $301B. The economic growth rate by then was -7%. In 2021, it jumped to 4.5%, ...then shrank to its normal playground, which is 1.2 - 2.1%,... Their Finance minister has even confirmed their economy will be trending @ 1.8% in the next 3yrs, from 2022.

The country's real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is expected to grow by an average of 2.1 % in 2022, finance minister Enoch Godongwana said on Wednesday. However, GDP is expected to grow by an average of 1.8 % over three years.

So, the 425- 435 he's giving you is guesswork. Kenya's economy is now sailing at 10% growth rate. That is enough evidence that the curve is moving at a convergent state and the meeting point is just a matter of time - if all factors remain constant.

Lol so naive and ignorant

jl115:
- Where is Kenya in 2050?

- Kenya has a 11% infrastructure spending gap vs 0.6% for SA...... but you catching us in 20 years?? i

- So in 5 years Kenya will be 19th in terms of Airports in the world?

- University rankings - 8 of the top 10 universities in Africa are SAn....the other two are Egyptian.....Kenya's highest ranking university is 12th....next best is 52nd - also don't know what you mean by leading us in terms of international schools?

- First heart transplant, first penis transplant, cured deafness, leading world authority on heart disease, invented the CAT scan............yet you claim you are only a few years away from having the best medical infrastructure?

- Technology? 2021 innovation index ranking 34th SA vs Kenya 95th.....but you are only 3 years away you say?

- Government has approved IPPs meaning we don't have to relay on Eskom anymore and we will pay cheaper for electricity WHICH already is significantly cheaper than electricity in Kenya

- So you saying Kenya will have the 12th longest rail network in 15 years?

- So you saying Kenya will have the 10th longest Road network in 20 years?

- South Africa 40 000 capacity stadiums - 16 ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Kenya 1......but ou catching in 4 years?

- Skyscrapers SA 60+.....Kenya 18

Another lie sported! Kenya was ranked at position 85 while SA was struggling at 61.

Shma:
Your logic is eating you now.

And stop lying - the debate was all about Nairobi vs Joburg.

I even admitted that Kenya as a whole will take 50yrs to catch up with the current SA - but I came to notice that 50yrs is too much - so let's give it 20yrs - which makes more sense.

Lol you aiming 2022 SA

In 2072 SA will still be ahead