Ibeme:


I'm sure you watch a different football

Konate is the right sided CB and his job is to help Trent with the overload on the right side which he did on Vinicius whilst VVD dealt with Benz thoroughly

You want VVD to run at Valverde while Carvajal is running alongside Valverde, so any engagement VVD makes there, a quick sidepass to Carvajal will open up the Liverpool defence wotowoto for Carvajal to pick whatever cutback he wants

We saw how Konate was ACTIVELY helping Trent on the right and on the left side which was supposed to be VVD side, Valverde got the ball, instead of moving in early, he did the same thing he did vs Morata few seasons ago, he waited until a harmless situation became dangerous because he didnt want to engage

This was the position where VVD and Carvajal were when Valverde got the ball, How he allowed this to get dangerous is the issue

Konate last night never gave Vicinius that much space, he closed him down immediately

That is 100% failure of VVD

andrewbaba44:


Salah is like the Messi of Liverpool

When will klopp win the Ucl without salah ?

Klopp has played 4 ucl finals and lost 3

Why did other coaches not win the ucl with Messi since Messi is an easy ticket to win the ucl ?

Once you see someone say "money Mancity" just know they have already told you their excuse should Mancity win anything including the champion's league.

Hensbeninho is a legend I swear.

Ibeme:


Nobody is taking Konate credit away

What is simple is everytime Konate goes right to cover Trent, VVD is the one dealing with Benz, and he dealt with him

You say the goal came from the left. Was there ever a situation where Ferland Mendy and Vini teamed up on Konate alone with Trent missing? Konates involvement usually involved both him and Trent doubling up on Vini

For the goal, you have Valverde and Carvajal teaming up on VVD. VVD can't jump into Valverde and just allow him play in Carvajal for easy cutback

Anytime Vicinus gets the ball, Benzema moves to support him below is the heatmap showing that most of Benzemas action were in the Konate Vinicius axis. VVD was simply ghosting and the only time he was called to action he failed

Itsrm:
Trent is 100% at fault for that goal. It's not the first time I've seen Liverpool concede the exact same way because Trent couldn't keep track of his man.

It's a known issue with him. How we are suddenly laying it on VVD is beyond me. Only a foolish defender like boateng would have rushed to tackle Valverde

That is the reason Boateng has never been found wanting in a major final while he saw VVD dancing bend down select yesterday i a crucial final


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQbgE7uu3-U

donstan18:

He started running even before Carvajal teamed up, was still running until Valverde laid the pass.

He had just one job to do, anything apart from RUNNING AWAY.

Thank you very much I didnt know you already got the graphic

raumdeuter:


We saw how Konate was ACTIVELY helping Trent on the right and on the left side which was supposed to be VVD side, Valverde got the ball, instead of moving in early, he did the same thing he did vs Morata few seasons ago, he waited until a harmless situation became dangerous because he didnt want to engage

This was the position where VVD and Carvajal were when Valverde got the ball, How he allowed this to get dangerous is the issue

Konate last night never gave Vicinius that much space, he closed him down immediately

That is 100% failure of VVD

VVD messed up there honestly. I expected him to charge Valverde there instead of going back and allowing him to think on what to do with the ball.

Itsrm:


Even in this your shot, at any point he decides to run towards Valverde, Carvajal becomes a free man

Explain how this is the image of when Valverde got the ball

donstan18:

Origi>>> Delima Ronaldo?

You wanna say NO??

Ronaldo Delima world cup cancel Origi's UCL,now give me Origi's individual awards that will cancel that of Ronaldo Delima and get back to me and whilst at that also bring Balanced James trophy that cancels Defensive liability Trent's EPL title,never mind individual awards

hensben:
VVD messed up there honestly. I expected him to charge Valverde there instead of going back and allowing him to think on what to do with the ball.

What have I been telling you about VVD for the past 4yrs? His first instinct is to run away first it doesnt matter who it is whether na Martial, Valberde of Morata

Its a way of avoiding responsibilities in a match, you run away and allow others to do the work and claim you were doing leadership menene

My mind keep telling me Roman is behind this Boehly's contractual agreement. I mean; how would you invest billions of pounds in a club and won't be able to take out profit in 10years?
A financial Analyst should please explain

donstan18:

So as he didn’t engage him, what happened?

Using his a$$ to stop a pass?

According to whoscored he was the worst outfield player on the night

Itsrm:


Easy to ask na

If only Trent did his job

Everyone is expected to do their job only VVD is exempted

BlueRayDick:


The still image of Van Djik bending yansh is funny as 4ck

Nigggga bend yansh like say he wan collect dogggie

His football and marking have always been garbage. Assuming Vinicius blasted the ball over the bar we would be talking about the skills VVD used there which made Vini blast the ball over

WhoDeyHause:

Bayern want to sign him. I don't think livarpool will give him to us so Todd should try and sign lewadoski and sell lukaku.

I cannot pay £40m for a 34year old, whose limelight has been in Burn- this- league- down. What is the cost benefit?

donstan18:

It’s very dangerous to run away from adventurous, decisive and smart attackers, they’ll deal with you.

I remember arguing here when VVD did the same against Sissoko and got away with it.

You don’t run from attackers as a defender, where are you running to? To Keeper?

To mommy. Its a recurring theme with VVD. He runs all the time. How many times did we see Konate run from Vinicius yesterday

If Konate was doing what VVD did yesterday the scores now will be 6-0

Donstan18 you don choke yourself abi ?


You are taking too long to reply and it's unusual of you,Pls I am still waiting for your reply ,

Maximilan:


He engages, Valverde passes to Carvajal and he does whatever he wants to do with the ball with all the space in the world, It even looked like that was a shot instead of a cross

There was a phase before carvajal got into the picture

Lets check this situation in a world cup final

Aguero has the ball on the wing, Boateng turns around like VVD to run away instead of sharply dispossesing him. Few seconds Rojo overlapped and got there to assist a stranded Aguero and goal resulted.



This is the reason world class defenders are proactive in preventing situations like the Morata and Valverde ones before they get out of hand

OJURONGBE1:


I cannot pay £40m for a 34year old, whose limelight has been in Burn- this- league- down. What is the cost benefit?

Mane might even be using football age Lewadoski can give us 2-3 seasons of goals that we have been looking for especially in champions league. Then broja can be our new striker after he finishes.

donstan18:

Show me where Trent defeated Real Madrid and I’ll show you where James did twice.

Trent: Bros shake my hand na?

Mendy: Sir, can you just obey social distancing?

Expert17:


Defending is 60% positioning.

VVD did his job, cutting out the most dangerous option - Carvajal.

From this image, this should have bn a simple 4 vs 4 defending.

VVD - Carvajal

Konate - Benzema

Fabinho - Valverde

Trent - Vini

How did Carvajal become VVDs man and not Valverde

popizaino:



Ronaldo Delima world cup cancel Origi's UCL, now give me Origi's individual awards that will cancel that of Ronaldo Delima and get back to me and whilst at that also bring Balanced James trophy that cancels Defensive liability Trent's EPL title,never mind individual awards

Nzozi World Cup >>> KDB and Modric.

Yea?

donstan18:


He was “FOUND WANTING” in a finals.

Dayo is in trouble.

Same thing he trolled Terry, Giroud and Silva for, in a finals, will be used against him.

Benzema already scored in a CL final which is what we asked of attackers.

Ronaldo and Messi did not score in every CL finals they played. WHy expect that from Benzema

We have been asking Terry and Silva to show just ONE CL final they were not found wanting just 1

Expert17:
For those with basic defending knowledge, VVD was overdoing self.

Covering for Robertson.

Shadow marking Fabinho's man - Valverde

Cutting out Carvajal.

Even stretched his leg trying to block/stop the pass.

This was what Konate did all night and did to perfection

He was covering Vinicius and Benzema who always overloaded the left.

hensben:
VVD messed here that yesterday I won’t lie. Nevertheless, he is a great defender.

Great defenders are known in great occasions not when Sisoko miss the target

OJURONGBE1:


I cannot pay £40m for a 34year old, whose limelight has been in Burn- this- league- down. What is the cost benefit?

Una get bad mouth here

I put it to those idiot arguing with me about Real Madrid not being compact yesterday to produce this exact image but this time around showing Liverpool player with ball while real madrid defending with this amount of space behind him.


Salah,Mane or Diaz being Valverde while Van Djirk is Alaba or even Mendy and Konate being the Madrid's second CB.

raumdeuter:


Explain how this is the image of when Valverde got the ball

Thanks a lot for this.

donstan18:

This is why he was exposed yesterday. You can’t run away from good attackers and get away with it. If Valverde had played rubbish, una go begin hype VVD.

Dem go say the VVD nyansh na him confuse am

OJURONGBE1:
If this is true, we should go all out for this lad.
He can do alot better than Foolishit, Werner, Ziyansh & Havertz combined.

He should join Bayern and enjoy soft football

raumdeuter:


How did Carvajal become VVDs man and not Valverde

Lol, it's not advisable to judge defensive actions with still image.

But, here is your answer

raumdeuter:


We saw how Konate was ACTIVELY helping Trent on the right and on the left side which was supposed to be VVD side, Valverde got the ball, instead of moving in early, he did the same thing he did vs Morata few seasons ago, he waited until a harmless situation became dangerous because he didnt want to engage

This was the position where VVD and Carvajal were when Valverde got the ball, How he allowed this to get dangerous is the issue

Konate last night never gave Vicinius that much space, he closed him down immediately

That is 100% failure of VVD

Of all languages, you decided to speak fact.