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What is the Motive behind your decision to follow Christ?

"Multitudes who desired to exalt Him to the throne today would turn from Him tomorrow. The disappointment of their selfish ambition would turn their love to hatred, and their praise to curses... Of those now connected with Him there were many who had been attracted by the hope of a worldly kingdom. These must be undeceived." - Desire of Ages p.383.

Many Christians have been deceived by their pursuit of selfish gains. Their profession of faith or discipleship is borne out of the desire to reap worldly benefits, but this is not what Christ taught. Contrary to popular theology, discipleship is a service - not an earthly reward system.
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Any religion that thoroughly emphasize on what you're saying will be vilified everywhere so no religious group does so with action except Jehovah's Witnesses, all others only say this but their words lacks the backing of actions to prove they truly mean what they're saying.

TO PRAY TO LIVE FOREVER.

MaxInDHouse:
Any religion that thoroughly emphasize on what you're saying will be vilified everywhere so no religious group does so with action except Jehovah's Witnesses, all others only say this but their words lacks the backing of actions to prove they truly mean what they're saying.

The salvation offered by Christ is a personal fellowship with God. Each of us has to work out and safeguard our the redemption we have received through Christ. Being under any denomination does nothing to include or exclude you ---- your life will tell where your heart lies; with God or for falsehood

AdventHero:
What is the Motive behind your decision to follow Christ?

To Live, as is The Creator's Plan and Will for His creations.

AdventHero:
Many Christians have been deceived by their pursuit of selfish gains.

Correction! People and Church goers are deceived and not "Christ-likes".

AdventHero:
What is the Motive behind your decision to follow Christ?

To have eternal life knowing that I'm not a perfect being. John 3:16

Jw says thank God they are better than others.
Born again people says Catholics are worshipping images.

Me I'm saying Christianity is one.
There is neither catholic nor born again nor jw nor circumcision or whatever

paxonel:
To have eternal life knowing that I'm not a perfect being. John 3:16

Knowing that you lost it. God never really complained about perfection. But He certainly did complain that man is evil.

paxonel:
Jw says thank God they are better than others.

Inferiority complex at work.

paxonel:
Born again people says Catholics are worshipping images.

People! Not just born again but many groups of people (Muslims, satanists, fence sitters) have observed this fact and there is nothing wrong in pointing out an observation.

AdventHero:
The salvation offered by Christ is a personal fellowship with God. Each of us has to work out and safeguard our the redemption we have received through Christ. Being under any denomination does nothing to include or exclude you ---- your life will tell where your heart lies; with God or for falsehood

How i wish this is true?
Then i would have remained a Muslim, believe in Jesus of Nazareth and continue worshiping God with what i believes about all His prophets. But it's a lie!

Salvation can only be attained through a group that's why Jesus told man who believe him and the laws that this man must join Jesus' group before he can be saved! Luke 18:18-23

Nicodemus was a Pharisee and he believe in Jesus but can he be saved based on his faith alone without WORKING with Jesus' group?

Paul latter accepted Jesus as Lord and Christ, but can he gain salvation without joining Jesus' group to WORK with them?

The answer is NO!

Christianity only becomes personal after you have IDENTIFIED the group practicing what Jesus taught because there are lots and lots of Satan's agents out there claiming CHRISTIANS {Matthew 24:11 compare to 7:21-23} are not just joking Sir, they're out there to drag as many as possible to the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14

So you need to IDENTIFY the group practicing what Jesus taught and WORK OUT your salvation in their midst otherwise there's no way you can singlehandedly practice what Jesus taught when you're not with the right group!

MaxInDHouse:
How i wish this is true?
Then i would have remained a Muslim, believe in Jesus of Nazareth and continue worshiping God with what i believes about all His prophets. But it's a lie!

You mean you would have mixed Moha with J.C?

We know you love JW because they uphold your common wishes, else you would not have miss-construed his statements into your personal blindness.

MaxInDHouse:
Salvation can only be attained through a group ...

See, False Group! Even when the Bible has clearly stated from WHOM salvation comes from!

MaxInDHouse:
Nicodemus was a Pharisee and he believe in Jesus but can he be saved based on his faith alone without WORKING with Jesus' group?

Nicodemus did not even have any faith!

MaxInDHouse:
Paul latter accepted Jesus as Lord and Christ, but can he gain salvation without joining Jesus' group to WORK with them?

The Bible clearly shows that Paul Joined Jesus, not group! But like Satan did, Truth must be used to lie.

Dtruthspeaker:
Correction! People and Church goers are deceived and not "Christ-likes".

Thank you.

paxonel:
To have eternal life knowing that I'm not a perfect being. John 3:16

Jw says thank God they are better than others.
Born again people says Catholics are worshipping images.

Me I'm saying Christianity is one.
There is neither catholic nor born again nor jw nor circumcision or whatever

You're right; God does not define His people by denomination, He defines those who are His by their adherence to the Pure and undiluted WORD OF TRUTH AND THE DIVINE PRINCIPLES IN THE SCRIPTURE.

There remains ONLY ONE WAY to God - Jesus Christ! He said, Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 (NIV)

Dtruthspeaker:
Nicodemus did not even have any faith!

Nicodemus was a prominent member of the Sanhedrin (Jewish High Court consisting of two major religious group known back then as Pharisees and Sadducees) this man believed all what the prophets said about the Messiah (Christ) when other members of his group were furiously against Jesus of Nazareth being the Christ and ready to expel whoever profess faith in Jesus out of the synagogues even plan to kill him, Nicodemus visited Jesus to have a one on one discussion to learn about God's Kingdom from this same vilified Nazarene, not only that Nicodemus tried to defend Jesus in the Assembly of the Jewish high court!
Surely Nicodemus had faith in God and Christ but if it's about salvation through a unique group that is indisputable otherwise the Scriptures won't emphasize on a group name "CHRISTIANS" in the midst of several religious groups in the first century Jewish community!

MaxInDHouse:
Nicodemus was a prominent member of the Sanhedrin (Jewish High Court consisting of two major religious group known back then as Pharisees and Sadducees) this man believed all what the prophets said about the Messiah (Christ) when other members of his group were furiously against Jesus of Nazareth being the Christ and ready to expel whoever profess faith in Jesus out of the synagogues even plan to kill him, Nicodemus visited Jesus to have a one on one discussion to learn about God's Kingdom from this same vilified Nazarene, not only that Nicodemus tried to defend Jesus in the Assembly of the Jewish high court!

Surely Nicodemus had faith in God and Christ...

This is Correct.

MaxInDHouse:
but if it's about salvation through a unique group that is indisputable otherwise the Scriptures won't emphasize on a group name "CHRISTIANS" in the midst of several religious groups in the first century Jewish community!

Now this is not correct.

Salvation cometh not from any group. It cometh from The Lord.

And it is those who have understood that the Salvation of God is that they should live as Christ lived, therefore they are like-Christ or Christ-like thus, dubbed "Christian"!

Christ-likeness is a character a person takes up, it is not a group.

Before you said:

Dtruthspeaker:
Nicodemus did not even have any faith!

But after i've opened up the scriptures to show you how faithful Nicodemus proved to be you changed your mind and said:

Dtruthspeaker:
This is Correct.

Now this is not correct.
Salvation cometh not from any group. It cometh from The Lord.
And it is those who have understood that the Salvation of God is that they should live as Christ lived, therefore they are like-Christ or Christ-like thus, dubbed "Christian"!
Christ-likeness is a character a person takes up, it is not a group.

So if you now agreed with me that Nicodemus had faith in God and Christ, do you think he can be saved without leaving his former group to join Jesus' group? READ Luke 18:22

MaxInDHouse:
Before you said:
But after i've opened up the scriptures to show you how faithful Nicodemus proved to be you changed your mind and said:

Yep and you surprisingly proved what I know faith is

MaxInDHouse:
So if you now agreed with me that Nicodemus had faith in God and Christ, do you think he can be saved without leaving his former group to join Jesus' group? READ Luke 18:22

To "join Jesus".

You did not say "faith in God and Christ group". You said "faith in God and Christ".

And having faith in God and Christ is just but a little step IF HE DOES NOT LIVE IN accordance with God and Christ.

As many church goers have shown, they know God and Christ, but they do not wish to live accordingly.

The separation occurs when you put away your former living and live according to your new Guider!

And as you see, No group here. Just a solo switch and change of living standards.

And the Bible does not record whether Nico lived according to God and Christ.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yep and you surprisingly proved what I know faith is
To "join Jesus".
You did not say "faith in God and Christ group". You said "faith in God and Christ".
And having faith in God and Christ is just but a little step IF HE DOES NOT LIVE IN accordance with God and Christ.
As many church goers have shown, they know God and Christ, but they do not wish to live accordingly.
The separation occurs when you put away your former living and live according to your new Guider!
And as you see, No group here. Just a solo switch and change of living standards.
And the Bible does not record whether Nico lived according to God and Christ.

That is the bone of contention!

What does "Faith in God" means?
What does "Faith in Christ" means?

First of all let's discuss "Faith in God"

The true God established Faith through one man called "Abraham" this man was ordered to leave his people with all his belongings and travel to a far distant land where he doesn't know nor have any relations there {Genesis 12:1} Abraham proved he has FAITH in the God who called him by acting in line with the instruction he received {Hebre 11:8-10; James 2:23} afterwards people like Rahab, Ruth and many more left their people and religions only to join the Israelites in worshiping the God of Abraham! James 2:25; Hebre 11:31 compare to Ruth 1:16

By so doing those ladies became members of the house of faith in God through their actions not just faith! James 2:18-26

Now let's talk about "Faith in Christ"

Jesus of Nazareth was a carpenter before God called him to start a ministry and soon some Jews left their former groups to join him in the ministry {John 1:35-38} because of this they became zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word going from one place to another with Jesus until after his death, resurrection and ascension to heaven.
Before leaving the earth Jesus commanded them to continue doing what he taught them {Matt 28:18-20} assuring them of the support of God's Holy Spirit! Act 1:8
Most Jews believed in Jesus too but they later stopped following his group {John 6:66} which made Jesus to pray for only those who stick to him always {John 17:8-9} Jesus also confirmed that it's only through this group that anyone could be connected to himself and his God {Matt 16:19; John 15:1-10} so even though many others believe in Jesus but if they're not connected to that group there's no way they can be productive in line with Jesus' ministry {Act 18:24-26} Paul later believe in Jesus and was ordered to go and join Jesus' group where he will be told how to set up a ministry! Act 9:6; 27-28

So Jesus surely established a GROUP and it's only through this group that anyone can learn how to go about the ministry Jesus commissioned, that's why Jesus himself warned his future disciples that whoever fails to IDENTIFY the group can't gain salvation {Matt 25:31-46} because Jesus' disciples must have the same line of thought and teaching anywhere they go {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corin 1:10} it's only then that the prophecy regarding pure worship which says God's people will "use the scriptures to teach themselves, settle all their racial disparities, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the production of WEAPONS and vow never to raise weapons against anyone" could come to pass! Isai 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Zephaniah 3:9

And as for Nicodemus, God's word didn't mention his name but gave us a clue that he must be one of those in priestly services that later joined Jesus' group! Act 6:7

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
That is the bone of contention!

What does "Faith in God" means?
What does "Faith in Christ" means?

No sir!

The contention is whether Nico joined a group as you wrongly claimed and now you can see, he did not, and the contention has dissolved.