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Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 10:02am On Jun 07, 2022
coputa:
Do not deceive yourself,the igbos are more close to you ancestrally,culturally,and politically,do not sell your God given right emotionally or out of ignorant.
Some of you guys are just so funny

I have never seen you preaching to you Ibo brothers and sisters who have been saying if the major parties ticket is not microzone to the South East, then the North should continue. But here you are calling me an ignorant person Lol

The joke is on you though.
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Nobody: 10:13am On Jun 07, 2022
We now the meaning of Nairaland.

Anti-Northern forum
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 10:15am On Jun 07, 2022
DOTian:
They are powerful because they control the Armed Forces! Simple! People always misunderstand the saying "power comes from the barrel of the gun". But look at that deeply and you will see it is true! Power can't be enforced without reasonable force! It doesn't go more than that. Some of you are starting to attribute all sorts of extra terrestrial political intelligence to these northerners who in my own view, play very predictable brand of politics.

The best thing that the northerners did was to not fight the British so virulently as the igbos did. It made them trusted allies of the West post independence and they have been leveraging on that to solidify their political domination in Nigeria ever since, while the British provides them with the international diplomatic cover they need to do so. Have you asked why there is no term like "The Biafra Genocide" in serious international discussions, even when the killing of almost 5 million easterners in a space of just 3 year should qualify as nothing but genocide? It's the British working! And the North pays the Western world handsomely for this. That's why the British and the Americans own most of Nigerias Oil and gas deposits.

Secondly, you have to appreciate the events of 1966. For whatever reasons, the whole country joined the north to decimate the igbo domination of The Nigerian Army post January 15th coup. The north took over permanently and have been calling the shots ever since. The southern groups that helped the north to take over, became docile and just watched from the sidelines. And we had endless northern instigated military coups. These coups led to a litany of military tyrants who created endless states and local governments and government agencies and made sure that all favoured the north. They even relocated the federal capital to Abuja!

What you are seeing politically today are the benefits of these actions taken during the military days. The fake census, the huge Local governments and states that produce more delegates during election periods. The endless military and Police posts in the North and commanders of northern extraction, who will unleash force to see through any government policies that favor the north. That is it. Every major ethnic group that has dominated power in every country played similar games. Whether the Hutus in Rwanda, the quasi Arabs in Sudan, the kukuyis in Kenya or the ewe in Togo. If you want to change things, you have to find a way to uproot them, the same way the North found a way to uproot the igbos in July 1966.
You make a valid point but that is only one facet.

Seun's musing is about Southern Unity. Barrel of the gun or not, the South can form a coalition if it wants. Afterwards, it can then adopt a strategic plan to slowly loosen the North's grip on military power.

But first, there must be a purposeful amalgamation of all 3 major Southern blocs. The primary reason why this has not happened yet is because the two most populous ethnicities in the South want indisputable supremacy in any such coalition.

Else, most of the elements of "unity" observed in the North also occur in each Southern bloc. In the SW, within the Tinubu political family, your actual state/village of origin or religion does not matter for political growth. The SE has voted as a unified bloc in virtually every election cycle, irrespective of the infamous republican nature of the Igbos.

The SS best resembles the North. Oshiomole is a Muslim, that did not stop everyone in the SS from backing him, even GEJ as the President in an opposition party, for two terms. Ned Nwoko is a Muslim, he just won primaries and is as good as the winner in the general election. In a national election, identify yourself as a bonafide Niger Deltan, and everyone from the Bini to the Anang will back you. There'd be no need to buy kolanut or palm wine. Yet, the SS is more diverse than the SW and SE.

Forging a super-culture from these three blocs is possible. But first, there must be mutual trust. Mutual trust already exists between the SE and SE. But the SW, especially with the Tinubu political faction being the main force, do not want to build bridges. Rather, they desire an exclusive relationship with the North which will be used to subdue the entire South.

Seun himself is part of this movement. If Tinubu had his way in the APC as he naively envisaged, Seun will not be talking about "super-culture." In fact, in this "super-culture" he is alluding to, he expects the Yorubas to be at the top like the Fulanis are in the North (through the Dan Fodio dynasty in the royal houses) and the Americans are in the Hemispheric West. While Igbos, Ijaws, Urhobos, Ibibios and every other ethnicity play second fiddle.

Which is why it is important that an Easterner (SE or NE) becomes the President in 2023. The SW CANNOT have the Presidency after completing 8 years of VP. Even the NW which is the most dominant region is not that greedy. Atiku is from the NE. Lawan is from a minority tribe in the NE.

But a certain personality has said his personal ambition is more important than equity. If he and his urchins are not dealt with, they would think themselves invincible. When they have been whipped and have grieved properly, we can start talking about Southern Unity based on shared values. And one of those values must be equity.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Rickmann: 10:25am On Jun 07, 2022
JEWELofHELL666:
https://twitter.com/seunosewa/status/1533913664889274369?s=19[/quote]Of course you think the north is so powerful cos ur Jagaban was used and enslaved by them for 8years.

E no fit happen to Igbo man.

Gba be!
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 10:32am On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
Some of you guys are clever by half.

So Nigeria started existing since 1999?

Any Southerner that rules Nigeria, and does not make restructuring his or her top priority, I will truly know Southern Politicians are weaklings and cowards.
1999 marks the start of the Fourth Republic.

It started on an amicable note. The North brought Obasanjo out of prison and backed him to become the President. The understanding was that the South and North will rotate power every 8 years.

Obasanjo tried to play games in 2006 when he wanted third term, but he was forced to shelf that plan and hand over to the NW.

The current political fracas is because of Yar'Adua's demise. If he hadn't died, people like Buhari and Tinubu have no business being in the immediate vicinity of Aso Rock. They should be perennial INEC customers.

There is no credible reason why the Presidency should go to the SW in 2023, after they've completed 16 years in Aso Rock. The NC has voted for every winning party since 1999, they've not smelled Aso Rock. SE hasn't. But a senile greedy c*nt thinks the Rock is its birthright.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by coputa(m): 10:39am On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
Some of you guys are just so funny

I have never seen you preaching to you Ibo brothers and sisters who have been saying if the major parties ticket is not microzone to the South East, then the North should continue. But here you are calling me an ignorant person Lol

The joke is on you though.
It is needless to cry for the hen that can't protect her chics from the hawk.You have no excuse because the south east has provided a veritable platform(labour party)to push in PETER OBI.
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 10:47am On Jun 07, 2022
LordAdam16:
1999 marks the start of the Fourth Republic.

It started on an amicable note. The North brought Obasanjo out of prison and backed him to become the President. The understanding was that the South and North will rotate power every 8 years.

Obasanjo tried to play games in 2006 when he wanted third term, but he was forced to shelf that plan and hand over to the NW.

The current political fracas is because of Yar'Adua's demise. If he hadn't died, people like Buhari and Tinubu have no business being in the immediate vicinity of Aso Rock. They should be perennial INEC customers.

There is no credible reason why the Presidency should go to the SW in 2023, after they've completed 16 years in Aso Rock. The NC has voted for every winning party since 1999, they've not smelled Aso Rock. SE hasn't. But a senile greedy c*nt thinks the Rock is its birthright.

-Lord
Except for this presidential election Tinubu has engage himself in, can you tell me the position Tinubu has contested for since 2007?

Is Tinubu asking people not to contest?

Obasanjo had to compete for PDP ticket against men like Ekwueme.

Okorocha,Odili compete against Yardua and the others for the PDP ticket in 2006.

Okorocha competed against Buhari in the APC

Nobody is stopping South East Politicians from competing, why should Kalu step down and choose to support Lawan a Northerner while there was the likes of Umahi and Ken Nnamani contesting? How you guys are wailing this badly because Tinubu, Osinbanjo, Amechi, Bello, Atiku is exercising their right is so funny grin

Atiku didn't step down for an Ibo man in the PDP, he has not gotten the kind of hate Tinubu competing in the APC has gotten even though the APC has never won a presidential election in the South East.

Majority of the people from the South East once called APC an Islamic Party, how una don dey get headache right now because of APC matter is funny.

Vote whoever you want to vote in the presidential election, Tinubu won't step down for anybody.

He made it clear to the panel, except he is the consensus candidate, he is not stepping down for anybody


On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba

Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 10:49am On Jun 07, 2022
coputa:
It is needless to cry for the hen that can't protect her chics from the hawk.You have no excuse because the south east has provided a veritable platform(labour party)to push in PETER OBI.
I can never vote for Peter Obi.
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by leksite120(m): 11:16am On Jun 07, 2022
coputa:
Can a yoruba muslim marry a yoruba christian.
it seems you've not been to SW before.
Tinubu,Fashola, Saraki, Ajimobi and co married Christians.
I gave you the prominent ones, so it's very common among the masses .
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 12:45pm On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
Except for this presidential election Tinubu has engage himself in, can you tell me the position Tinubu has contested for since 2007?

Is Tinubu asking people not to contest?

Obasanjo had to compete for PDP ticket against men like Ekwueme.

Okorocha,Odili compete against Yardua and the others for the PDP ticket in 2006.

Okorocha competed against Buhari in the APC

Nobody is stopping South East Politicians from competing, why should Kalu step down and choose to support Lawan a Northerner while there was the likes of Umahi and Ken Nnamani contesting? How you guys are wailing this badly because Tinubu, Osinbanjo, Amechi, Bello, Atiku is exercising their right is so funny grin

Atiku didn't step down for an Ibo man in the PDP, he has not gotten the kind of hate Tinubu competing in the APC has gotten even though the APC has never won a presidential election in the South East.

Majority of the people from the South East once called APC an Islamic Party, how una don dey get headache right now because of APC matter is funny.

Vote whoever you want to vote in the presidential election, Tinubu won't step down for anybody.

He made it clear to the panel, except he is the consensus candidate, he is not stepping down for anybody


On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba
He wants to accept anointing oil as consensus candidate, but will not recognize another person accepting it.

He wants to rule for 8 years after SW has done 16 years in the Presidency, but he does not want another region to do the same.

And you get mind dey loud am dey form "I'm a Lagos-based Niger Deltan."

This kind of selfish, greedy Arrow with no regard for equity or fair federalism is who you want to foist on a diverse country like Nigeria. As if the experience with Buhari is not bad enough.

No worry, we will live long enough to see how this movie will end.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 12:48pm On Jun 07, 2022
LordAdam16:
He wants to accept anointing oil as consensus candidate, but will not recognize another person accepting it.

He wants to rule for 8 years after SW has done 16 years in the Presidency, but he does not want another region to do the same.

And you get mind dey loud am dey form "I'm a Lagos-based Niger Deltan."

This kind of selfish, greedy Arrow with no regard for equity or fair federalism is who you want to foist on a diverse country like Nigeria. As if the experience with Buhari is not bad enough.

No worry, we will live long enough to see how this movie will end.

-Lord
The likes of Amechi, Osinbanjo, Umahi, Onu etc agreed to step down for the consensus candidate, why have they not throw their support behind Lawan by now?
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 1:00pm On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
The likes of Amechi, Osinbanjo, Umahi, Onu etc agreed to step down for the consensus candidate, why have they not throw their support behind Lawan by now?
Did any of them say if there's a consensus candidate, they would not step down?

The governors are still playing spoiler. Consultations are still going on. When time reach those that want to drop will drop. Those that will decamp to vie elsewhere will decamp.

The annoying part is how you folks are talking about contest as if Tinubu is going for picnic.

Tinubu even becoming the President will not even be the end of the world. The problem is how he is going about it.

The NW have had 16 years in the Presidency and don't mind a SW Presidency because they'd have VP position for 8 years. Even if it is Muslim-Muslim ticket. If no one fights them now, that's how two regions will be rotating the top 2 posts in the country, while forming political sophistry.

Let Tinubu go to the SS, SE, NC, and NE and convince the regions why he should get 8 years before the other regions. Not to be crying it's my turn, Buhari is ungrateful, Osinbajo is a Judas. Then when the other regions connive to take it from his hands, he starts threatening to fight dirty. For this country.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 1:04pm On Jun 07, 2022
LordAdam16:
Did any of them say if there's a consensus candidate, they would not step down?

The governors are still playing spoiler. Consultations are still going on. When time reach those that want to drop will drop. Those that will decamp to vie elsewhere will decamp.

The annoying part is how you folks are talking about contest as if Tinubu is going for picnic.

Tinubu even becoming the President will not even be the end of the world. The problem is how he is going about it.

The NW have had 16 years in the Presidency and don't mind a SW Presidency because they'd have VP position for 8 years. Even if it is Muslim-Muslim ticket. If no one fights them now, that's how two regions will be rotating the top 2 posts in the country, while forming political sophistry.

Let Tinubu go to the SS, SE, NC, and NE and convince the regions why he should get 8 years before the other regions. Not to be crying it's my turn, Buhari is ungrateful, Osinbajo is a Judas. Then when the other regions connive to take it from his hands, he starts threatening to fight dirty. For this country.

-Lord
The Party Chairman already made it clear yesterday, Lawan is the consensus. Or did Adamu deny saying it?

Tinubu won't force anybody to vote for him today, you don't need to be going through this stress because of the Jargaban.



On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba

Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by seborrhic: 1:07pm On Jun 07, 2022
JEWELofHELL666:
https://twitter.com/seunosewa/status/1533913664889274369?s=19[/quote]For someone that founded such a forum as nairaland,Seun has never shown any intellectual depth expected of someone with such a bright idea as Nland.
His views are always pedestrian and lacking in deep thought and analysis.
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 1:09pm On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
The Party Chairman already made it clear yesterday, Lawan is the consensus. Or did Adamu deny saying it?

Tinubu won't force anybody to vote for him today, you don't need to be going through this stress because of the Jargaban.



On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba
Stress ke. I'm not the one repeating "On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba" in every post.

Party Chairman and the Presidency have their consensus. Governors want their own consensus. Let the Governors finish their consultation. In 48 hours time, it will all be over.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 1:12pm On Jun 07, 2022
LordAdam16:
Stress ke. I'm not the one repeating "On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba" in every post.

Party Chairman and the Presidency have their consensus. Governors want their own consensus. Let the Governors finish their consultation. In 48 hours time, it will all be over.

-Lord
You're the one stressing yourself out cause of Tinubu matter when you are not even a delegate.

48 hours you say? When we go know the winner before 12pm.

LordAdam16:
The annoying part is how you folks are talking about contest as if Tinubu is going for picnic.

Tinubu even becoming the President will not even be the end of the world. The problem is how he is going about it.

The NW have had 16 years in the Presidency and don't mind a SW Presidency because they'd have VP position for 8 years. Even if it is Muslim-Muslim ticket. If no one fights them now, that's how two regions will be rotating the top 2 posts in the country, while forming political sophistry.

Let Tinubu go to the SS, SE, NC, and NE and convince the regions why he should get 8 years before the other regions. Not to be crying it's my turn, Buhari is ungrateful, Osinbajo is a Judas. Then when the other regions connive to take it from his hands, he starts threatening to fight dirty. For this country.

-Lord
Tinubu did this, Tinubu did that

Why should you be angry the Jargaban is saying he deserve to get his party ticket? Are you even an APC member? Wey you dey carry the matter for head like gala huh

Your own duty is to vote whoever you want on the election day, not to be angry about the internal politics of the APC.

Stop stressing yourself because of the Jargaban.

On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba

Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 1:14pm On Jun 07, 2022
seborrhic:
For someone that founded such a forum as nairaland,Seun has never shown any intellectual depth expected of someone with such a bright idea as Nland.
His views are always pedestrian and lacking in deep thought and analysis.
Creating a national forum is not a bright idea. He only had first-mover advantage.

Unfortunately, forums are not very profitable, at least compared to other media properties; else the likes of Legit, Ikeji, Vanguard, would have built competing forums.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 1:17pm On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
You're the one stressing yourself out cause of Tinubu matter when you are not even a delegate.

48 hours you say? When we go know the winner before 12pm.

Tinubu did this, Tinubu did that

Stop stressing yourself because of the Jargaban.

On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba
Delegates that are protesting abi na anoda delegate.

Power brokers are horse trading and you're talking about delegates. Political neophyte.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 1:19pm On Jun 07, 2022
LordAdam16:
Delegates that are protesting abi na anoda delegate.

Power brokers are horse trading and you're talking about delegates. Political neophyte.

-Lord
Tonight we will know who is the political neophyte between you and I.

On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 1:22pm On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
Tinubu did this, Tinubu did that

Why should you be angry the Jargaban is saying he deserve to get his party ticket? Are you even an APC member? Wey you dey carry the matter for head like gala huh

Your own duty is to vote whoever you want on the election day, not to be angry about the internal politics of the APC.

Stop stressing yourself because of the Jargaban.

On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba
Today is the day of election, e deserve ticket nai dem never mk am consensus candidate since?

APC is the ruling party. The population of this country is 205m people. Elections have consequences. Riff-raffs have no place in Aso Rock, we are yet to recover from the current occupant. Una 1 carry another fossil come.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by LordAdam16: 1:25pm On Jun 07, 2022
Parachoko:
Tonight we will know who is the political neophyte between you and I.

On Bola Ahmed Tinubu Mandate I Stand Gidigba
Tonight or in 2023?

This is Act 2, Scene 3. We no dey hurry.

Mata wen don dey execution stage since Oyegun was the Chairman.

-Lord
Re: Why The North Is So Powerful - Seun Osewa by Parachoko: 1:25pm On Jun 07, 2022
LordAdam16:
Tonight or in 2023?

This is Act 2, Scene 3. We no dey hurry.

Mata wen don dey execution stage since Oyegun was the Chairman.

-Lord
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