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timbros:
Lol this this CAF TOTT in 1994. What are you saying?

Wahaleux!

Ibime:
Calendar Year 2013, Mikel did not start more than 10 league games. Prove me wrong

Okay maybe you are right ,I don’t know on how to get on the stats of those calendar year ,I can only do per season

So what does this got on mikel ?

Why can’t you tell us how Olise was a bench warmer from his 2nd season at Dortmund and was sacked for poor performance and fighting a player ?

andrewbaba44:
Olise won the afcon with a more talented super eagles team and we no go hear word ?

Mikel won the afcon with the likes of Sunday mba ,Juwon oshaniwa,oboabona who are all naija league based players and mixed with enyeama musa emenike and co

If I ask you where Ben Iroha, Eguavoen, Keshi, Yekini, SiaSia, Friday Elahor and even Amokachi were playing, you will find that that squad was full of players whose European clubs were on the level of Oshaniwas. That was a squad that used to take unemployed players like Isaac Semitoje and Nduka Ugbade to tournaments. By unemployed, I mean these players had literally been CLUBLESS for months when they were taken to AFCON and could not find an employer. The only player in a big club in that whole squad was Finidi. Amunike was even in Zamalek in Egyptian league. Their greatness comes from what they did on the pitch for Nigeria, not because they were playing for Barca or Madrid.

Thankfully we don't need magic to see that the same Sunday Mba you castigated was Nigeria's best player in that tournament. I don't need to prove to you that Oliseh was not our key player. I have done so by showing game-winning actions. I can do the same for Sunday Mba in 2013, but you can never do the same for Mikel. Mikel was the one accomodated in that tournament by Onazi who did all his defending and Mba who did all his running and scoring.

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andrewbaba44:
Okay maybe you are right ,I don’t know on how to get on the stats of those calendar year ,I can only do per season

The point is to show that Mikel placing 2nd in Africa POTY was complete fugazi.

Ibime:
The point is to show that Mikel placing 2nd in Africa POTY was complete fugazi.

It was never a fugazi

Respect the afcon winner

Ronaldo will never go to Chelsea, Amen.

JBoss25:
Ronaldo will never go to Chelsea, Amen.

Keep quiet.

BlueAngel444:
that's much for de ligt o, e for be €40m plus Pulisic

But doubt an American owner would be selling Pulisic

Nobody is interested in Pulisic.

Ennyjay69:
thanks boss

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Jodera:
Lol, so you know this but you want people to bring afcon ToTT that wasn't in existence in Oliseh days to elevate Mikel because he was privileged such award was in his time. You're bringing afcon win when abacha banned Nigeria from participating in afcon during Oliseh days after he still won the 94 nation's cup.

See, you guys logic is simple and that's what I'm following. If you feel strapping the seatbelt in bench and winning laurels is what makes you greater than those whose abilities shines through on the field of play, then, you should agree that...

Pedro >>>>>> Xavi and iniesta

First and foremost I didn’t tell you to bring Oliseh team of the tournament award I only said Mikel made team of the tournament because Ibime was trying to say he was a carry along in midfield by Onazi and Mba.

Secondly, no correlation in what you just said because Mikel participated and won same nations cup Oliseh won. Again Xavi and Iniesta never played in epl, they played in la liga which is equivalent.

hensben:
Nor mind them. They are even saying Mikel will not start in that super eagles team. Lol. Oliseh DM, Mikel CM, Okocha CAM will dominate. Not because he can not play DM or CAM but because he is a utility midfielder.

Do you know that Okocha himself was not a guaranteed starting player and only started 3 games in AFCON and 1 game in World Cup? How will Mikel enter a 4-4-2 team that Okocha cannot enter with confidence. Mind you, the original question is which DM will you pick, and in a 4-4-2 team with only one DM, and sometimes no traditional CM (SiaSia comes back to play CM), Mikel will never smell starting line-up. Nobody will be dropping Amokachi or Yekini to play a 3 man midfield. I will leave Raumdeuter to tell you more about how Nigeria was doing well in World Cup till Okocha was given shirt for Italy match.

Ibime:
The point is to show that Mikel placing 2nd in Africa POTY was complete fugazi.

Mikel won nations cup and was in team of the tournament, why can’t he come second in player of the year award holding in African soil.

Ibime:
Do you know that Okocha himself was not a guaranteed starting player and only started 3 games in AFCON and 1 game in World Cup? How will Mikel enter a 4-4-2 team that Okocha cannot enter with confidence. Mind you, the original question is which DM will you pick, and in a 4-4-2 team with only one DM, and sometimes no traditional CM (SiaSia comes back to play CM), Mikel will never smell starting line-up. Nobody will be dropping Amokachi or Yekini to play a 3 man midfield. I will leave Raumdeuter to tell you more about how Nigeria was doing well in World Cup till Okocha was given shirt for Italy match.

It depends on the era, if it where to be old days Oliseh will start, in this modern day of football Mikel will start. It’s not possible for any super eagles coach to bench Mikel the way he broke out. Mikel star was just like Kanu then in the team.

hensben:
Mikel won national cup and was in team of the tournament, why can’t he come second in player of the year award holding in African soil.

You and I know that's a senior man thing and Mikel was not even better than Sunday Mba, Victor Moses and co in that tournament and did nothing in club football that year either except ride bench

Ibime:
You and I know that's a senior man thing and Mikel was not even better than Sunday Mba, Victor Moses and co in that tournament and did nothing in club football that year either except ride bench

Hmmm senior man Kesh.

hensben:
It depends on the era, if it where to be old days Oliseh will start, in this modern day of football Mikel will start. It’s not possible for any super eagles coach to bench Mikel the way he broke out. Mikel star was just like Kanu then in the team.

The original question was start one, bench one and bin one between Oliseh, Mikel and Ndidi. That's not even a question, and the only Super Eagles success in 2013 you can point to, Mikel was given a comfortable role away from DM

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hensben:
We will cook next week.

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Andrewbaba44, please go back and watch Oliseh in his brief stint in Italy.

He was one of he early definers of the evolution of the DM from the destructive/ball winner role to a deep lying playmaker..

Would prime Mikel have benched Oliseh in the 1994 AFCON and World Cup teams and the 1996 Olympics?

Speaking about Mikel in relation to Oliseh in 1994, I hope you remember that in USA 1994, Oliseh was 19, right?

So would a 19 year old Mikel replace a 19 year old Oliseh at the World cup and not a 22-28 year old Mikel?

afrodoc2:
Wahaleux!

princeabdul:
why will anyone even stoop so low to compare oliseh with Mike isn't that an abomination?? Stats or no stats Mikel is Nigeria most decorated and greatest player ever, it's not even debatable.

Sentiment.

Sadly, sentiment can’t beat fact and realities.

timbros:
Skimpledawg Unlimited22 donstan18

Rivers United don win league with 4 matches to spare. Who go attend the next home match to see the Cup?

They are playing Nassarawa away today.

As Enyimba fan, I dey vex but I go still go the next home game sha.

For real? Are they that good?

Time and venue? Make I know if I go fit meet up.

andrewbaba44:
Na only that year una wan use against mikel ?

Do you want to see how Olise was chopping bench at the 2001-2002 season at Dortmund ,where is started only 11 league games ,na this player better pass mikel in what aspect ?

What about 2002-2003 season where Olise was not making match day squad in numerous occasions before he was shipped to an ekuke Bochum on Loan ,na this player better pass mikel ?

Failed at juventus and not a regular at BVB ?

Man was sacked by Dortmund because of poor performance and fighting with a teammate

Person wey no get level.

Joezinho:
So would a 19 year old Mikel replace a 19 year old Oliseh at the World cup and not a 22-28 year old Mikel?

There is no age Mikel was whether 19, 22 or 30 that will replace a 19 year old Oliseh.

I've actually had the pleasure of watching both players live in the stadium for Super Eagles, Oliseh once and Mikel maybe once or twice. My last memory of Mikel was going to Brentford stadium to see Mikel look technically great at keeping the ball as usual, but saw Appiah and Essien run through him time and time again as Ghana smashed us 4-1. I stopped going to Super Eagles matches after that. I had been to all Super Eagles matches played in England since 2001 or 2002 where I saw Oliseh dominate the play against Japan at Southampton stadium. In DM work, what happens off-the-ball is as important as on-the-ball and this is where Obi fans have blindspot.

timbros:
Lol this this CAF TOTT in 1994. What are you saying?

So Hoe-Lisa no even make the list?

Ibime:
There is no age Mikel was whether 19, 22 or 30 that will replace a 19 year old Oliseh.

I've actually had the pleasure of watching both players live in the stadium for Super Eagles, Oliseh once and Mikel maybe once or twice. My last memory of Mikel was going to Brentford stadium to see Mikel look technically great at keeping the ball as usual, but saw Appiah and Essien run through him time and time again as Ghana smashed us 4-1. I stopped going to Super Eagles matches after that. I had been to all Super Eagles matches played in England since 2001 or 2002 where I saw Oliseh dominate the play against Japan at Southampton stadium. In DM work, what happens off-the-ball is as important as on-the-ball and this is where Obi fans have blindspot.

Lol. Very soon Andrew will tell us Yobo is better than Keshi.

Ibime:
There is no age Mikel was whether 19, 22 or 30 that will replace a 19 year old Oliseh.

I've actually had the pleasure of watching both players live in the stadium for Super Eagles, Oliseh once and Mikel maybe once or twice. My last memory of Mikel was going to Brentford stadium to see Mikel look technically great at keeping the ball as usual, but saw Appiah and Essien run through him time and time again as Ghana smashed us 4-1. I stopped going to Super Eagles matches after that. I had been to all Super Eagles matches played in England since 2001 or 2002 where I saw Oliseh dominate the play against Japan at Southampton stadium. In DM work, what happens off-the-ball is as important as on-the-ball and this is where Obi fans have blindspot.

That was at craven cottage if my memory serves me right.

donstan18:
Just compare prime Hazard and Chukuwueze, you’ll see Assnal fans making case for Chukwueze that he’s better.

I’ve never see anti-Chelsea fans as bitter over Chelsea matters as Assnal fans.

Still pains them that we’ve won UCL twice when they’ve won none? Or could it be because most of their players that joined Chelsea excelled and achieved a lot? Who knows.

After today, observe their opinions here whenever Chelsea players start getting compared to other players.

They are still in that early 2000s euphoria of Arsenal is better than Chelsea so anything from Chelsea is inferior whether good or not but reality have left them behind.

Joezinho:
Andrewbaba44, please go back and watch Oliseh in his brief stint in Italy.

He was one of he early definers of the evolution of the DM from the destructive/ball winner role to a deep lying playmaker..

Would prime Mikel have benched Oliseh in the 1994 AFCON and World Cup teams and the 1996 Olympics?

Speaking about Mikel in relation to Oliseh in 1994, I hope you remember that in USA 1994, Oliseh was 19, right?

So would a 19 year old Mikel replace a 19 year old Oliseh at the World cup and not a 22-28 year old Mikel?

I have watched Olise

His football career was just too short to point out many things , nothing really serious .

Our players too get hype then expecially ndi 94

popizaino:
That was at craven cottage if my memory serves me right.

Brentford Griffin park. Ghana fans mocked us to pieces that day. The worst was one of my Ghanian friends saw me after the game and offered me a lift in a car full of Ghanaians. I suffered that day ehn.