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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody:
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:54am On Jun 26, 2022
Yes overhead cables need to go in business districts -
Shma:
True. Fixing Concrete is the only way to stop them.
For the hanging electric wires, I believe it's possible to do away with them. Those electric wires are becoming an eyesore, especially on those upcoming CDBs. They should try to borrow a leaf from those fiber guys, while at it, make a long-term serving underground tunnel for its operations.
Downtown has eradicated it... And the decency can be seen. Kilimani,westlands, and upper hill are yet to do that. I was in upper hill some two weeks ago, and there was a section where they were burying those electric cables, although a large part is still having them.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 3:39pm On Jun 26, 2022
Just40:
grin grin

Ive seen what you've done
grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody:
@Kikuyu1, told you couple weeks ago about a 'Martha Effect'. You almost put a noose around my neck. Its actually confirmed. What do your latest more believable numbers say? According to Prof Kagwanja, over the past month, she has extended Azimio's lead in the Mountain by 10 %. FYI, the Star is aligned to Ruto. As I said before, this will be the most clear cut elections since 2003. RVP actually believed Kyuks will be blindly led by Ruto like goats to the abattoir.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 5:55pm On Jun 26, 2022
jl115:
- OK let me switch it up.... How does Nigeria influence anyone with the sane logic you applied above?
Is this even a question?. We influence politics,economy in this region we’ve interfered in some countries internal affair here(govt affairs and their politics). Same with economy. The most recent was when we shut our boarders down and most of our neighbors economy hit rock bottom. Now that there is influence not some nonsense secondary school girls talk on shoprite and DSTV. Learn to separate investment from influence. A company cannot influence Nigeria,A country can and so far no country has,talk more of common SA.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 5:57pm On Jun 26, 2022
jl115:
-Who founded shoprite? Was it a Nigerian?.... No it wasn't, no stop acting like you did.

- I asked you if you want to see the report..... I find it hypocritical that you fully supported these same figures when I was debating the kenyans yet now you want to question figures that are straight from the IMF... But here is the link to the full report as well https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2022/04/19/world-economic-outlook-april-2022

-actually stage 2....and like I said, get to 20% of Eskom then we can talk.... Or maybe when you one day don't need your generator then call me up bru wink..... Also remind me what Nigerias electrification rate is again?
I am not about to go on and on.

Shoprite Nigeria belongs to Nigerians. Stop with the sticky fingers

And yes eskom now supply about the same electricity we consume to SA. So yes I will make fun of it,so brace yourself and stop heckling.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 5:58pm On Jun 26, 2022
@gallivant Kenya’s inflation is becoming unbearable but your double standard was seen when you were making fun of Ghanaians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BgIl31iHBQ
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 5:59pm On Jun 26, 2022
samorobo:
Is this even a question?. We influence politics,economy in this region we’ve interfered in some countries internal affair here(govt affairs and their politics). Same with economy. The most recent was when we shut our boarders down and most of our neighbors economy hit rock bottom. Now that there is influence not some nonsense secondary school girls talk on shoprite and DSTV. Learn to separate investment from influence. A company cannot influence Nigeria,A country can and so far no country has,talk more of common SA.
If these their companies really influence Nigeria, then how is it that Buhari could fine MTN and Multichoice huge sums amounting to Billions of Naira for tax evasion?

Note: They both didn't leave the country despite the outrageous sums levied on them, they only pleaded with Government to pay less and be good boys henceforth.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 6:29pm On Jun 26, 2022
Tayser:
@Kikuyu1, told you couple weeks ago about a 'Martha Effect'. You almost put a noose around my neck. Its actually confirmed. What do your latest more believable numbers say? According to Prof Kagwanja, over the past month, she has extended Azimio's lead in the Mountain by 10 %. FYI, the Star is aligned to Ruto. As I said before, this will be the most clear cut elections since 2003. RVP actually believed Kyuks will be blindly led by Ruto like goats to the abattoir.
Ok!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 8:07pm On Jun 26, 2022
GeneralDae:
If these their companies really influence Nigeria, then how is it that Buhari could fine MTN and Multichoice huge sums amounting to Billions of Naira for tax evasion?

Note: They both didn't leave the country despite the outrageous sums levied on them, they only pleaded with Government to pay less and be good boys henceforth.
Oh that’s true, I remember that incident.
@ jl115 over to you.
The bolded doesn’t speak influence,it’s screams I am at your mercy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:08pm On Jun 26, 2022
samorobo:
@gallivant Kenya’s inflation is becoming unbearable but your double standard was seen when you were making fun of Ghanaians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BgIl31iHBQ
Everyone knows it's worse there... Evident from the shortages, the hunger and the complain from their country. Food, fuel, transportation and etc inflation are up 80% to 100% there
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:14pm On Jun 26, 2022
samorobo:
Is this even a question?. We influence politics,economy in this region we’ve interfered in some countries internal affair here(govt affairs and their politics). Same with economy. The most recent was when we shut our boarders down and most of our neighbors economy hit rock bottom. Now that there is influence not some nonsense secondary school girls talk on shoprite and DSTV. Learn to separate investment from influence. A company cannot influence Nigeria,A country can and so far no country has,talk more of common SA.
ohh my fvck bru!! grin this gibberish above is why you think Nigeria has more influence than SA? Let me just say this: G20, Brics, EU strategic partner, Largest African FDI contributer....
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:16pm On Jun 26, 2022
samorobo:
I am not about to go on and on.

Shoprite Nigeria belongs to Nigerians. Stop with the sticky fingers

And yes eskom now supply about the same electricity we consume to SA. So yes I will make fun of it,so brace yourself and stop heckling.
- who founded shop rite?

- nope, Eskom produces 5 times Nigeria can produce....your generator fumes must be getting to your head
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody:
kikuyu1:
Ok!
Just in case you missed it in the screenshot!
https://nation.africa/kenya/blogs-opinion/opinion/raila-s-masterstrokes-scattering-ruto-s-numbers-3859786

"God built the universe on numbers,” said Pythagoras. As the cliché goes: “Numbers don't lie,” perhaps because they give power and rule the universe, too. This rings true of Kenya’s August 9, 2022 General Election. Victory will ride on the almighty trinity of numbers, resources and strategy – although the spiritually oriented thinkers insist on ‘the hand of God’.

But who currently has the numbers? Until a month ago, crystal gazers and oracles of science alike gave the numbers to Ruto; and understandably so. Kenya’s number two hewed a campaign strategy, devoted resources and sprinted ahead long before the whistle blew.


The game-changer is the battle for the running mates, which Odinga won and Ruto seemingly lost. Odinga’s numbers shot meteorically soon after naming former Justice Minister and Narc-Kenya leader Martha Karua as his running mate. On the flipside, Ruto’s numbers tipped after he announced the current MP for Mathira, Rigathi Gachagua, as his running mate.

Besides changing the fortunes of the candidates, the running-mate question has also impacted on their respective strategies. Ruto’s game plan has been to retain intact the ‘tyranny of numbers’ hoisted on Kikuyu-Kalenjin détente that enabled him and Kenyatta to win and retain power over the past decade. But this is morphing into a risky gamble. In 2013, Kenyatta scraped through the 50-per-cent-plus-one mark with only 8,000 votes! It would be a tall order for Ruto to achieve the same feat. The big mobilising factor in 2013 was the International Criminal Court (ICC), which is now absent. In Mt Kenya, Kenyatta and Odinga have ceased to be the boogeymen for vote mobilisation. And the ideological grip of the ‘hustler versus dynasty’ narrative has wilted in the heat of campaigns.

Ruto’s strategists failed to diligently scan all the horizons. Perhaps Gachagua, a mobiliser and bare-knuckled fighter, is what Ruto needed to neutralise Kenyatta’s long-awaited blitz to dislodge Ruto and win back Mt Kenya for Azimio. But with Kenyatta’s last-minute decision to stay away from electioneering, a ‘gladiator’ as a running mate is a heavy millstone around Ruto’s neck.

Odinga’s masterstroke was naming Karua as his running mate, a classic buy-one-get-three deal: An untainted and courageous leader to spearhead his national campaign against corruption; a veteran leader and respected daughter of Mt Kenya to help him ‘climb the mountain’; and an experienced and credible women leader to win over the female vote.

However, delivering at least 60 per cent of the Mt Kenya bloc to Azimio is key to Karua’s own political future. Over the past month, she has extended Azimio’s lead in the Mountain region by more than 10 per cent.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:18pm On Jun 26, 2022
samorobo:
Oh that’s true, I remember that incident.
@ jl115 over to you.
The bolded doesn’t speak influence,it’s screams I am at your mercy.
Why would they leave when you are gifting our companies billions in revenue?? The mere fact that the fine that MTN got was just a slap on the wrist is what actually screams influence
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:18pm On Jun 26, 2022
jl115:
ohh my fvck bru!! grin this gibberish above is why you think Nigeria has more influence than SA? Let me just say this: G20, Brics, EU strategic partner, Largest African FDI contributer....
All these are irrelevant because they don't help you influence Africa. Maybe one of us do not know what influence means.

EU strategic partner for example is the worst of them all you could pull up, it's basically nonsense in relation to this topic.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:20pm On Jun 26, 2022
GeneralDae:
All these are irrelevant because they don't help you influence Africa. Maybe one of us do not know what influence means.
..... uhhmmm, maybe if you start thinking logically for one second you would see that it does infact help SAs influence in Africa
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:24pm On Jun 26, 2022
jl115:
..... uhhmmm, maybe if you start thinking logically for one second you would see that it does infact help SAs influence in Africa
So how have you influenced Africa with all these? Give some examples.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:55pm On Jun 26, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody:
Rally Kenya is OVER, winner is 21-year-young Finnish driver Kalle Rovanperra, the youngest ever rally winner. He's 6 years younger than the previous youngest winner. This was his fourth victory out of the six rounds of the 2022 WRC series so far - the only driver to have won the WRC events on three different surfaces - tarmac, snow and gravel. In other words, the reincarnation of the white death, aka Simo Häyhä !

“We cannot compare Kenya’s Safari Rally with the rest of the World." One driver quipped.

Its just special. Experience counts for nothing!

1st 4 positions went to Toyota. Says a lot about the brand's mastery of African terrain. Only Toyotas survived Kenya. Rest of the brands were wrecked, plagued by engine failures, steering and gearbox malfunctions, and spectacular tyre blowouts.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by POKUASI2: 11:23pm On Jun 26, 2022
Just40:
Yet there are only 5.4 million poor people here and they do well to make a good living because the economy is good enough to cater for them and even give them the opportunity you never got for them to take their kids to uni and other higher institute of learning.

Ghana has never needed an IMF program except in 83.

What's your next excuse for why youre poor and your country is so poor such that you had to come and become an offloader here?
what trusts your fraudulent govt and data.
How many times have you been caught cooking data.
Even your colonial masters —IMF accused you not long ago of falsifying figures..
What could have become of ghana without IMF.. maybe another archeological site where rigorous digging will be going on to unravel bone structure of kofi fossil

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:53pm On Jun 26, 2022
POKUASI2:
what trusts your fraudulent govt and data.
How many times have you been caught cooking data.
Even your colonial masters —IMF accused you not long ago of falsifying figures..
What could have become of ghana without IMF.. maybe another archeological site where rigorous digging will be going on to unravel bone structure of kofi fossil
On the whole continent, my govt data are some of the most credible because in a highly democratic society like we have, it is almost impossible to hide anything..

IMF has never accused us of falsification, that is absolutely impossible.

The fact that your country can't seem to get anything right and is always accused by it colonial masters in it currently debt burden with no space does not mean everyone in that useless.


Every day... There one nonsense or another from you on things you'll never understand because of your fungus size brain.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 12:04am On Jun 27, 2022
jl115:
ohh my fvck bru!! grin this gibberish above is why you think Nigeria has more influence than SA? Let me just say this: G20, Brics, EU strategic partner, Largest African FDI contributer....
If control a country’s economy and interfering in their internal politics is not influence then I don’t what else influence could be described as. Perhaps you need to update your archaic dictionary.

Your G20 title abd all that havent give any influence whatsoever on Nigeria,so really what’s the point. You are just a mere $300bn economy piggybacking on the effort of other sane countries in those categories.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 12:07am On Jun 27, 2022
jl115:
- who founded shop rite?

- nope, Eskom produces 5 times Nigeria can produce....your generator fumes must be getting to your head
You found it,we bought. Superior move.
Elon musk is the new owner of Twitter,who ever found it is irrelevant.

-uhmm nope I just say a video where a certain American guy that relocated to SA complained of enduring load shedding in Cape Town for about 10 hours. Now that right there is Nigeria. So permit me to gloat my laatije.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 12:12am On Jun 27, 2022
jl115:
Why would they leave when you are gifting our companies billions in revenue?? The mere fact that the fine that MTN got was just a slap on the wrist is what actually screams influence
The mere fact we could bully you with outrageous prices and have you come beg for mercy doesn’t position you as the one with the influence,in fact if there is anything it’s speak cowardice,weakness,pushover and the lists go on and on.

Influence comes with power. You don’t value anyone’s but your decision. You speak and you want it done otherwise your inferiors face the consequences. You going to beg and nag to the media is nothing short of sissy-ness. I hope the picture is clear this time cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:10am On Jun 27, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 1:57am On Jun 27, 2022
Koroga Festival Marking the end of the WRC at Hell's Gate National park, Naivasha, Kenya.

Tarrus Riley headline artist.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
This really the problem with Raila and most his supporters. You're suffering from tunnel vision. You're so focused on Mt kenya that you've lost ground in your base. It's proverbial pursuing two birds in the bush and leaving the one at hand.

Even if you win some Mt kenya votes...unless you hit 60%...to go even with Ruto...you're dead.

Let me break it down.
MtKenya population is about 23% - 17.5% kikuyu,4.5% meru, Embu/Mbeere 1%.
Due to their population structure (more adults than kids) & higher turnout - their national voters share is higher - at 28% (rough estimate of 2017)
If turnout is subdued by 10% - that will slice off 2.8%
So this election MtKenya is 25% of the total expected voters nationally...about the size of entire rift valley province.

50% of that 12.5%....

The gap btw Jubilee and NASA in 2017 was about 9-10%.
If Ruto loses half MtKenya(12.5%) but retain the rest of Jubilee he would be around 54.5% - 12.5% - (42%)

But we know Ruto has gained by campaigning for 5yrs nationally - all over - with Hustler Revolution - so give and take - 3-4% - like he helped Jubilee in 2017 improve from 51% to 55% (rounding off).

So Ruto essentially with half MtKenya is 45%. That is UDA Ruto - that for argument sake has lost 50% of MtKenya

And that is without Kenya Kwanza.

Weta brings Bukusu votes...he has never run but he is influential in Bukusu who are the largest subtribe in Luhyaland (give him 2% nationally - I think Bukusu are 5% nationally - maDVD last time got 1% - Ruto already has had his play - so I think he really add Ruto 2%)
MaDVD brings Maragoli and other Luhyas...he got 4-5% in 2013. It didn't quite show in NASA - who improve slightly because Raila like he does hammorage more votes than maDVD brough to NASA from Amani caolition.

So at 45% UDA with half MtKenya (for argument sake) - with MaDVD 5% - Ruto is already 50% - with Weta - he is at 52%.

Ruto still has little play from Mutua & Kingi (latest acquisition maybe worth 1% nationally) - to afford to lose another 10% of MtKenya (3%) - and still win by 51% - a whisker.

In Short for Raila to go 50-50 with RUto - he better be playing around 60% of MtKenya.

But reality - Ruto is not losing 50% of MtKenya. Ruto is losing 20-30% of MtKenya - that about 7.5% nationally- so he essentially starts at 54.5% - minus 7.5% ---which is around 47% of 2017 as his UDA base. He gains another 7% - and wins by 55%.

Comeback on the 9th August. The result will be the usual. Ruto 55% - Raila 45% if not worse - Ukambani for example Raila is doing very badly.

And these things are easy....get an excel...and I can show you the tribal percentage of each county...crunch the numbers.

Raila will lose because while he is focussed on gaining Mt kenya (so far evidence suggest he isnt making much headway) - Ruto will double or triple what Uhuru got in 2017 in former Raila strongholds like Western, Ukambani, and Coast. That will negate all the little gains Raila will in Mt kenya.

And that really is Raila political story...a sisypean curse where he get into next election cycle...destroy his coalition and then start again..instead of consolidating that support and trying to get the 5-7% he has so far missed in three elections..he is a month from his 5th (or 6th if you add 1982) loss.

Same same 2017 story - He gained MaDVD - improved in Luhyaland to 85% - but lost votes elsewhere - so Jubilee improved from 51% to 55%. In 2017 his maths was simple - he had 44% - he only needed to gain 5% from MaDVD - but he forgot that he needed not to leak votes elsewhere.

2013 - he started with 45% of 2007 - all he needed to win was keep kalenjin in ODM...and try to get 5% from Kalonzo. He failed.

2007 - Oranges Referendum had won by 58% - all they needed to do was to retain Kalonzo - they failed - Ukambani left for ODM-Kenya and Raila was rigged out because his numbers were not good enough to beat an incumbent.

Tayser:
@Kikuyu1, told you couple weeks ago about a 'Martha Effect'. You almost put a noose around my neck. Its actually confirmed. What do your latest more believable numbers say? According to Prof Kagwanja, over the past month, she has extended Azimio's lead in the Mountain by 10 %. FYI, the Star is aligned to Ruto. As I said before, this will be the most clear cut elections since 2003. RVP actually believed Kyuks will be blindly led by Ruto like goats to the abattoir.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:05am On Jun 27, 2022
Kenya Azimio crew. Infact with final registered voters released - it takes some serious leave of reasoning - to imagine Raila has a path to victory. This question was posted in Kamba (Azimio stronghold) and 70% said Raila has no path to power. Ruto has serious lead in Mt Kenya, Riftvalley and now western. Those are the top 3 voting blocks....how will Raila recover from there?

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 7:07am On Jun 27, 2022
samorobo:
You found it,we bought. Superior move.
Elon musk is the new owner of Twitter,who ever found it is irrelevant.

-uhmm nope I just say a video where a certain American guy that relocated to SA complained of enduring load shedding in Cape Town for about 10 hours. Now that right there is Nigeria. So permit me to gloat my laatije.
Even their sports stadium nowadays have lights going off in the middle of a competition.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 7:19am On Jun 27, 2022
samorobo:
@gallivant Kenya’s inflation is becoming unbearable but your double standard was seen when you were making fun of Ghanaians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BgIl31iHBQ
These things are even worse than you may think, millions of Kenyans are now running to Uganda, Tanzania and even Somali just to survive embarassed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKidDs6zhYk
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 7:28am On Jun 27, 2022
jl115:
ohh my fvck bru!! grin this gibberish above is why you think Nigeria has more influence than SA? Let me just say this: G20, Brics, EU strategic partner, Largest African FDI contributer....
how does G20 and BRICS, in correlation with SA; influence the continent?

I'm listening.
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