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APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by YourhealthNG2(m): 3:27am On Jul 11, 2022
It is no longer news that the APC has decided to dare Nigerians with a muslim-muslim ticket.

The major reason they gave for this assault on the unity of Nigeria is that they want to win elections at all cost, targeting the so called northern muslim bloc votes.

However, this shameful reason has far reaching implications if allowed to sail through.

First, if we allow this nonsense to fly, a time will come when all the political parties will field only Northern Muslims Presidential tickets back to back just because they want to win elections with the so called northern bloc votes.

It almost happenened in this election if not for the Northern governors who put their foot down for Tinubu in the dying minutes and the youths rallying round to project Peter Obi.

Second, if the majority christians in the south can vote a northern Muslim-southern christian in the persons President Umaru Musa Yar Adua of blessed memory/Jonathan and the current president Buhari/Osibanjo, why can't the northern muslims also vote a southern muslim/ northern christian ticket in 2023

Third, a ticket that projects one religion as superior to the other will further embolden extremists in that religion.

Many people have been killed in the South and north by Boko Haram and Iswap terrorists. This muslim-muslim ticket if successful will further escalate terrorism in Nigeria because it suits the narrative of the terrorists that their religion is superior. This will automatically lead to more insecurity and more deaths across the country.

I think at this point in our history, we should say and do only things that can de-escalate the tension and insecurity in Nigeria.

Let's even interrogate the specific reason behind the narrative that a northern muslim cannot vote a northern Christian? Are the northern Christians not human beings? Are there no competent northern Christians? Are they not Nigerian enough?

We should note that whatever decisions we take today has far reaching implications for tomorrow, our future and many generations to come.

The whites that took time several decades back to build an all-inclusive and enlightened society are enjoying the dividends today and will continue to do so into many generations. The blacks on the other hand were not that lucky. Most of our past leaders were selfish and self-centred, and this gave rise to the current situation of poverty, illiteracy, insecurity and hunger in many African nations.

We voted Buhari in 2015 against the many wise counsels then and we have lived with the deadly consequences in the last 7 years. Many who supported or voted Buhari in 2015 and 2019 have either been killed or kidnapped by terrorists in the north and south. Hunger and poverty have ravaged the land under the watch of Buhari.

Similarly, we allowed terrorism to take hold in the north and south-east through Boko Haram and IPOB elements, when we should have nipped things in the nipped things the bud in early stages.

Why do we always allow things to get very bad before trying to quench it?

Back to the issue at hand. So I'm not surprised that many people are withdrawing their support for the APC at this crucial moment in our history.

Those backing down from this dangerous experiment are the heroes of our democracy.

When you show a group of people openly that they don't matter and have no electoral value, what do you expect?

What is bad is bad and we must condemn it for posterity sake.

A muslim-muslim ticket should be condemned and rejected by all fair-minded and detribalised Nigerians. It is a dangerous trend that should be killed now.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by Sevenworldpower(m): 3:32am On Jul 11, 2022
Muslim would rule for 24 years. 2015 to 2039.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by kettykin: 3:36am On Jul 11, 2022
It will never happen

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by ElSudani: 3:53am On Jul 11, 2022
If the ticket is rejected a bad precedent would be set, a new gulf of division and schism would be established between Christians and Muslims for a very long time.
It will trickle down to the state and local government levels. Your faith rather than your competence will be given undue importance in seeking office.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by helinues: 3:55am On Jul 11, 2022
Can't you people use your power on the ballot instead of disturbing our ears.

Abi all this epistle na early consolation?
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by stonemasonn: 3:58am On Jul 11, 2022
Sevenworldpower:
Muslim would rule for 24 years. 2015 to 2039.
16 years tops.
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by stonemasonn: 4:02am On Jul 11, 2022
Christians are gradually becoming minorities in Nigeria. Many people (especially in the South West and the North) will start converting to Islam now to stay relevant.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by khadaffi(m): 4:11am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:
If the ticket is rejected a bad precedent would be set, a new gulf of division and schism would be established between Christians and Muslims for a very long time.
It will trickle down to the state and local government levels. Your faith rather than your competence will be given undue importance in seeking office.

Let it be like that. Do you think religion is not already given undue importance. Otherwise ask yourself if you sincerely think a northern Christian politician does not exist. Why present a Muslim? Do you guys think we are foolish in this country. Already we are seeing the state giving undue advantage to one religion over another. The recent supreme court ruling of wearing of hijab is a pointer. Any Christian that vote for a Muslim Muslim ticket is a bastard. No northern Muslim would do that if the reverse was the case

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by ElSudani: 4:13am On Jul 11, 2022
khadaffi:


Let it be like that. Do you think religion is not already given undue importance. Otherwise ask yourself if you sincerely think a northern Christian politician does not exist. Why present a Muslim? Do you guys think we are foolish in this country. Already we are seeing the state giving undue advantage to one religion over another. The recent supreme court ruling of wearing of hijab is a pointer. Any Christian that vote for a Muslim Muslim ticket is a bastard. No northern Muslim would do that if the reverse was the case

What does your faith have to do with whether you are a good leader or not.
Jonathan was a Christian, Buhari a Muslim does that make any difference to terrorists?
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by khadaffi(m): 4:21am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:


What does your faith have to do with whether you are a good leader or not.
Jonathan was a Christian, Buhari a Muslim does that make any difference to terrorists?

Exactly if that is the case then why didn't they present a Christian? Or are you telling me no competent Christian exist. I know of up to seven competent Christians off the top of my head. If they were not bias by religion they would have chosen a Christian. All these late nonsense cannot fly. If we are talking of competence even Buhari and Tinubu are not competent

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by Greatzeus(m): 4:26am On Jul 11, 2022
I don't expect anyone to be talking about this Muslim Muslim ticket,not to talk of fighting it or antagonizing it, because from what I have been reading online so far since the primary BAT stand no chance at all,so why are obi supporters crying and wailing like he is definitely going to win?
Is it that all these online rant about obi- dents are just bold face trying to deceive themselves that obi has a chance? I don't understand,ain't you supposed to be happy that BAT has made a decision that will make him loose?
Unless you don't actually believe BAT will loose this election,unless you actually believe this election is his for the taking.
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by ElSudani: 4:26am On Jul 11, 2022
khadaffi:


Exactly if that is the case then why didn't they present a Christian? Or are you telling me no competent Christian exist. I know of up to seven competent Christians of the top of my head. If they were not bias by religion they would have chosen a Christian. All these late nonsense cannot fly. If we are talking of competence even Buhari and Tinubu are not competent

You also have to pick someone you can work it. Would it make any difference if Shettima was a Buddhist? Some of us can remember the cat and mouse relationship between Obasanjo and Atiku.
And you all complain about incompetent leadership.
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by khadaffi(m): 4:31am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:


You also have to pick someone you can work it. Would it make any difference if Shettima was a Buddhist? Some of us can remember the cat and mouse relationship between Obasanjo and Atiku.
And you all complain about incompetent leadership.

You see, it is good to be straight forward in this life instead of beating around the bush. You would have just said this from the onset. " Of all the Christian politicians in the north, Tinubu cannot or does not find it comfortable working with any of them". This is good. Go to the election ground with such statement let's see how it goes.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by ElSudani: 4:35am On Jul 11, 2022
khadaffi:


You see it is good to be straight forward in this life instead of beating around the bush. You would have just said this from the onset. " Of all the Christian politicians in the north, Tinubu cannot or does not find it comfortable working with any of them". This is good. Go to the election ground with such statement let's see how it goes.

Only fanatics like you are fixated on a politicians faith. Yoir faith is a personal relationship between you and your creator. His faith is not going to provide you a good paying job, put a roof over your head and send your children to good schools. Why then are you fixated on inanity?
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by nnewsnjobs: 4:39am On Jul 11, 2022
The implication is that if Tinubu eventually wins, meaning we will have a Muslim as a president for consecutive 24years in Nigeria because after 8yrs, he will hand over to another president from the north who is definitely going to be a Muslim.

The christians in Nigeria are inveriably the on lookers and noise makers.

The funny thing is that 90% of Yoruba christian will still vote for Tinubu.

The whole thing is more of tribalism than religion, they will prefer to have their own there as a president even if he is Pharaoh or even wizard.

That is why the odds favors Atiku to win because tribalism has eaten deep down us (Nigerians), and the Hausa Fulani will also vote massively for their brother because they too will also prefer their brother to be the president, while the Igbos will vote massively for their brother Obi.
At the end who is able to bite more vote from other regions aside his will win.

Modify:
Let me tell you the truth,
Pastor Adeboye and Pastor Osibanyo will vote for Tinubu (Muslim -Muslim) ticket, I don't know of Bishop Oyedepo.
The tribalism in Nigeria is at the roof top at the moment, so religion come second.

Because if not, 99% of Christians will not vote for Muslim - Muslim ticket.

I am 100% sure if the reverse (Christian- Christian) happen to be the case, 99% of Muslim will not vote for such ticket and there will be serious protest and even jihad if such ticket happen to win.

Sorry to say it, we the so called Christians are hypocrites.

I don't know what to call any Christian that will vote for Muslim - Muslim ticket.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by khadaffi(m): 4:52am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:


Only fanatics like you are fixated on a politicians faith. Yoir faith is a personal relationship between you and your creator. His faith is not going to provide you a good paying job, put a roof over your head and send your children to good schools. Why then are you fixated on inanity?

If you call me a fanatic so be it. Your principal that is not a fanatic yet find it difficult to work with people of other faith that are close to him.

At a time when Muslims are entering churches and killing people for no other reason but their faith or Christians being killed for saying something against Mohammed. I would need a strong political figure in government we can run to and rally around in the event that things blow out of proportion.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by YourhealthNG2(m): 5:02am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:


Only fanatics like you are fixated on a politicians faith. Yoir faith is a personal relationship between you and your creator. His faith is not going to provide you a good paying job, put a roof over your head and send your children to good schools. Why then are you fixated on inanity?
Who's the fanatic?

A southern and northern Christian that has no problem voting a northern Muslim?

Or Northern muslim that can only vote a northern Muslim?

Who's is the fanatic?

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by YourhealthNG2(m): 5:10am On Jul 11, 2022
helinues:
Can't you people use your power on the ballot instead of disturbing our ears.

Abi all this epistle na early consolation?
Must you comment on every thread?

You can't gag us.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by Moh247: 5:29am On Jul 11, 2022
cool


Why Ibo people dey complain sef


You talk about bigotry yet want to discredit Shetima based on religion



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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by YourhealthNG2(m): 8:42am On Jul 11, 2022
Moh247:
cool


Why Ibo people dey complain sef


You talk about bigotry yet want to discredit Shetima based on religion



.
Face the issue. Nothing concerns Igbo on the issues raised. Christianity cuts across all ethnic groups in Nigeria, same with Islam.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by DMerciful(m): 9:08am On Jul 11, 2022
Nope, we must reject from now so anybody sitting on the fenxe knows the implications of being docile
helinues:
Can't you people use your power on the ballot instead of disturbing our ears.

Abi all this epistle na early consolation?

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by helinues: 9:09am On Jul 11, 2022
DMerciful:
Nope, we must reject from now so anybody sitting on the fenxe knows the implications of being docile

Then we are advising you guys to do it diplomatically.

All the best
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by DMerciful(m): 9:14am On Jul 11, 2022
Are we not? Are we protesting on the street or destroying things? Are we insulting amybody?

We only say its unacceptable to us and we will encourage Christians to reject it because Muslims can never accept Christian-Christian ticket
helinues:


Then we are advising you guys to do it diplomatically.

All the best

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by Obagreatdatoye(m): 9:33am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:


Only fanatics like you are fixated on a politicians faith. Yoir faith is a personal relationship between you and your creator. His faith is not going to provide you a good paying job, put a roof over your head and send your children to good schools. Why then are you fixated on inanity?
Ogbenu....get out from here and stop wasting space with nonsense defence....arindin agba!

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by ElSudani: 9:38am On Jul 11, 2022
Obagreatdatoye:

Ogbenu....get out from here and stop wasting space with nonsense defence....arindin agba!

I am sure you are referring to your father. Tinubu will still be your president regardless of your strawman argument.
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by BluntTheApostle(m): 9:55am On Jul 11, 2022
khadaffi:


Exactly if that is the case then why didn't they present a Christian? Or are you telling me no competent Christian exist. I know of up to seven competent Christians of the top of my head. If they were not bias by religion they would have chosen a Christian. All these late nonsense cannot fly. If we are talking of competence even Buhari and Tinubu are not competent

First of all, a Muslim-Muslim ticket is just a strategy. It has nothing to do with faith or religion or the incompetence of Christian Northern politicians.

The cold truth is that the APC can only win this election with a Muslim-Muslim ticket.

With Shettima, APC will have a close fight with PDP in North East, and with the Buhari factor and the absence of Kwankwaso in PDP, clinch the heavily populated Kano state, and the Buhari factor alone will do well for APC in Katsina.

It is a winning strategy.

The first thing is to win the election. When it comes to competence or organizing a competent team, you can't deny that Tinubu is very good at that.
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by YourhealthNG2(m): 9:57am On Jul 11, 2022
DMerciful:
Are we not? Are we protesting on the street or destroying things? Are we insulting amybody?

We only say its unacceptable to us and we will encourage Christians to reject it because Muslims can never accept Christian-Christian ticket
I tire for the guy

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by Desperado14: 9:58am On Jul 11, 2022
ElSudani:
If the ticket is rejected a bad precedent would be set, a new gulf of division and schism would be established between Christians and Muslims for a very long time.
It will trickle down to the state and local government levels. Your faith rather than your competence will be given undue importance in seeking office.

You mean the precedent the Northern muslim has already set by declaring proudly that they can't vote for a Northern Christian?

Hypocrisy, could Atiku sir out for a Southern candidate? This is all the doing of the Fulani Lords..

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by YourhealthNG2(m): 10:00am On Jul 11, 2022
BluntTheApostle:


First of all, a Muslim-Muslim ticket is just a strategy. It has nothing to do with faith or religion or the incompetence of Christian Northern politicians.

The cold truth is that the APC can only win this election with a Muslim-Muslim ticket.

With Shettima, APC will have a close fight with PDP in North East, and with the Buhari factor and the absence of Kwankwaso in PDP, clinch the heavily populated Kano state, and the Buhari factor alone will do well for APC in Katsina.

It is a winning strategy.

The first thing is to win the election. When it comes to competence or organizing a competent team, you can't deny that Tinubu is very good at that.

You mean just win elections, irrespective of the consequences now and in future? I'm sorry but your comment is insensitive.

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Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by BluntTheApostle(m): 10:05am On Jul 11, 2022
YourhealthNG2:

You mean just win elections, irrespective of the consequences now and in future? I'm sorry but your comment is insensitive.

Seems like you don't know what it means to contest in an election.

The first goal of a political party is to take over power by winning an election.

For now, every other thing is secondary.

Go and pick up a government textbook, and read about political parties.
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by ElSudani: 10:07am On Jul 11, 2022
Desperado14:


You mean the precedent the Northern muslim has already set by declaring proudly that they can't vote for a Northern Christian?

Hypocrisy, could Atiku sir out for a Southern candidate? This is all the doing of the Fulani Lords..

Where and when was this declared? Who declared it? Obasanjo recently said he regretted his choice of vice president. What was the cost of this regret on providing good leadership for Nigerians?
Well according to some of you it doesn't matter as long as the ticket is Christian/ Muslim. By the way, are these two religions the only religions in Nigeria?
Re: APC's Muslim-muslim Ticket: What Are The Far Reaching Implications? by dahmie2013: 10:11am On Jul 11, 2022
These same muslims that kill us are the one's that wants to rule us. Tufia....

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