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Kilishihunter:
We no get money buy player, Complaints like rival fans
We see money buy player, Still complaints
How many times will it be stated here that the reason 75m was paid for Raphinha was because we were engulfed in a bidding war with 4 rich PL teams and also partly due to Dembele's greed

The Deal is actually €60m + €15m in addons...Luiz Diaz was signed for €45m + €15m I'm addons which is a difference of €15m(caused by the bidding war) and Raphinha has a more G+A overall than Diaz despite playing for Clubs like Rennes, Leeds.

Now is Sterling better than Diaz?

joviegghead:
No one is dragging Raphinha. And please, many of us wanted dembele ungrateful ass gone, including me.

What is painful is the money we're splashing on Raphinha.

70 million+ is a sum for proven world class players.

If Vinicius is bought by city for that amount, who's gonna complain? Few. He's earned that price value, to some extent. Same with mbappe(who's worth more).
Even mahrez may or may not qualify for that price tag. But Raphinha?

Anyway I pray he doesn't flop. I pray...

In today's market...you really want to get Vinicius for that amount? If Man city offer 150m Madrid nor go their call

this same Vinicius was regarded as a flop last season

BlaqFaze:
The Deal is actually €60m + €15m in addons...Luiz Diaz was signed for €45m + €15m I'm addons which is a difference of €15m(caused by the bidding war) and Raphinha has a more G+A overall than Diaz despite playing for Clubs like Rennes, Leeds.

Now is Sterling better than Diaz?

And we are not even paying everything in one window like lewandoski's deal, just installments, Na wa ooh

Kilishihunter:
And we are not even paying everything in one window like lewandoski's deal, just installments, Na wa ooh

I just dey wait for the Sterling make e go Chelsea, make e see as life be without De Bryune, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Cancelo

I am not crucifying Raphinha , my problem is Barca spending cash like they are running Giveaway

Kilishihunter:
That's because of the way you've been hammering on this Sterling, Sterling since afternoon when he's neither a RW nor we interested in him
I asked you to name how many Quality RWs you can see right now and you mentioned only Gnabry and moussa diaby, No dey do like those pained Vardridians and shekpites wailing on Twitter especially when the former bought TooMuchMoney for 100m , Raphinha hasn't even kicked a ball yet for us and you want to crucify him cause of Sterling

Vinicius labeled flop last season?

BlaqFaze:
In today's market...you really want to get Vinicius for that amount? If Man city offer 150m Madrid nor go their call

this same Vinicius was regarded as a flop last season

Ibukzy:
As you can see here Dembele goal creation is in the 90% percentile , don't know where you are seeing the Stat of 34%

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Ibukzy:
Vinicius labeled flop last season?

I mean 2020/21 season...Baba scored 3 goals in 35 apps

BlaqFaze:
In today's market...you really want to get Vinicius for that amount? If Man city offer 150m Madrid nor go their call

this same Vinicius was regarded as a flop last season

The same Vinicius that was bought for 46million euros from Brazil as unknown 16yr old. 46 whole million was spent to buy him from Brazil, not Leeds o. This is a boy without European experience.

Now, 5 yrs down the line, joviegghead is hailing him as a world class player because he has started performing. I am sure if he were a Madrid fan or amongst their board, he would have vetoed that deal just because it was outrageous for an unknown player without European experience.

This is how you know people without foresight.

BlaqFaze:
I just dey wait for the Sterling make e go Chelsea, make e see as life be without De Bryune, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Cancelo

Sterling is a wasteful, frustrating player. You can't exactly say he made his mark in ManCity. Even Ferran Torres dey bench him sometimes.

jpmoriarti:
Sterling is a wasteful, frustrating player. You can't exactly say he made his mark in ManCity. Even Ferran Torres dey bench him sometimes.

Pep Guardiola nor dey reason him mata sef... Pep trust players like Mahrez more and he had to play Foden on the wing because e nor send Sterling

Ibukzy:
I am not crucifying Raphinha , my problem is Barca spending cash like they are running Giveaway

Check my posts here bro, I was against us spending that amount of money when Leeds first asked for 65m but then again you have to realise you need experienced players to compete, I'm not saying he's messi or neymar but if you ask me he has done more than enough playing in that wack Leeds team, Of Leeds had their way they'll have definitely kept him till after the world cup to get prob a 100m+ for that lad if Brazil does well
Our hope of paying off debt and running high operational costs is by getting revenue, tons of it, one of the reasons why the Camp nou is being renovated, and we can't get it if we are a piss poor non competitive side struggling in football tourneys
Spotify agreed to be our sponsor cause of our past history of Glory despite us losing the GOAT and being in europa, We can't afford to be slack and lowly against the brand we've built this 21st century

jpmoriarti:
The same Vinicius that was bought for 46million euros from Brazil as unknown 16yr old. 46 whole million was spent to buy him from Brazil, not Leeds o. This is a boy without European experience.

Now, 5 yrs down the line, joviegghead is hailing him as a world class player because he has started performing. I am sure if he were a Madrid fan or amongst their board, he would have vetoed that deal just because it was outrageous for an unknown player without European experience.

This is how you know people without foresight.

Richarlison and Gabriel Jesus are CFs... Raphinha outscored both of them as a winger... Richarlison was sold for €70m

market don spoil nor mean say we nor go sign players

Kilishihunter:
Check my posts here bro, I was against us spending that amount of money when Leeds first asked for 65m but then again you have to realise you need experienced players to compete, I'm not saying he's messi or neymar but if you ask me he has done more than enough playing in that wack Leeds team, Of Leeds had their way they'll have definitely kept him till after the world cup to get prob a 100m+ for that lad if Brazil does well
Our hope of paying off debt and running high operational costs is by getting revenue, tons of it, one of the reasons why the Camp nou is being renovated, and we can't get it if we are a piss poor non competitive side struggling in football tourneys
Spotify agreed to be our sponsor cause of our past history of Glory despite us losing the GOAT and being in europa, We can't afford to be slack and lowly against the brand we've built this 21st century

Raphinha is all over the news with some Billionaire owners bidding for him but Barca has seemingly won the race, this will make investors happy (including Sixth Street)

That does not warrant us to be signing player at an exorbitant fee that is way above their value

Kilishihunter:
Check my posts here bro, I was against us spending that amount of money when Leeds first asked for 65m but then again you have to realise you need experienced players to compete, I'm not saying he's messi or neymar but if you ask me he has done more than enough playing in that wack Leeds team, Of Leeds had their way they'll have definitely kept him till after the world cup to get prob a 100m+ for that lad if Brazil does well
Our hope of paying off debt and running high operational costs is by getting revenue, tons of it, one of the reasons why the Camp nou is being renovated, and we can't get it if we are a piss poor non competitive side struggling in football tourneys
Spotify agreed to be our sponsor cause of our past history of Glory despite us losing the GOAT and being in europa, We can't afford to be slack and lowly against the brand we've built this 21st century

Ibukzy:
That does not warrant us to be signing player at an exorbitant fee that is way above their value

Oga, go and sleep. You have nothing new to say.

You're beginning to sound like a broken record.

jpmoriarti:
Oga, go and sleep. You have nothing new to say.

You're beginning to sound like a broken record.

I swear

Kilishihunter:
No but if dembele had gone finally, we've have had an experienced RW in place, Chelsea dropped almost £65m for him not euros ooh pounds Sterling, So there was only one choice left for us, Either pay up or walk away, Btw reports are already coming out Barca have already sent €50m fixed for lewandoski, There's something they know we don't know so chill

Lewadoski will never join your dead useless club. He will still be at bayern to destroy you people as usual in champions league. Bayern won't let him go anywhere. Continue dreaming.
Povertylona.

Ibukzy:
That does not warrant us to be signing player at an exorbitant fee that is way above their value

Where will your dead club see 75 million to pay for player? Go and pay your debts and salary you are owing first
Dead club.

WhoDeyHause:
Where will your dead club see 75 million to pay for player? Go and pay your debts and salary you are owing first
Dead club.

Barcelona HIJACKING Raphina must have pained you to the bones and now your tears are like the ocean.

If you are not careful, we might counter a bid for sterling and leave him to rot anywhere. We are poor but bigger than anything Chelshit.

This would have been sweeter if it were Abrahimovic on the wheels. It'd look like a contest to an extent, but this BOLE SHOPON that doesn't know his left from right!


See wetin your club day sign... Chai

Goal scoring, decision making? If xavi wasn't a passionate and same time a strict coach I wonder if dembele would have performed the way he did last season. Those qualities I mentioned above are what gives raphinha an edge over dembele.
Dembele is faster, a better dribbler, creates more chances maybe but you can't say beats raphinha in all aspects if you say this I wonder of you watch raphinha at all

joviegghead:
Are you saying he's better than dembele?

Let's get one thing straight:
Dembele is finally finding his rhythm in Barça. It started with koeman gradually and now with xavi, he's turning to a beast.

This is someone who turned boos into applause more than once at the camp nou. Shows you how special he is.

Dembele creates more goals. He was more of a creator last season and I'm sure with good guidance, he'll improve. I can't say same with Raphinha. Dembele has proven to be 'quality' enough.. Let that sink in.

That last part of your statement is an exagerration... Dembele beats Raphinha in all aspects of footballing abilities for attackers/footballers.

timay1:
Messi's La Masia set at Barca is similar to Man United academy class of 1992.

Both clubs Revere those two generations and try to replicate it several times over the years but it's just not working.

The management of both clubs forget that such things is an outlier and not the norm. It only happens once in a century and by pure chance and luck.

You're simply just playing with semantics because your assertion is not true.

For starters, Barcelona and United to some extent are known for their youth system which brought them so much success.

Let's start with United. The 1992 class dominated English football until Sir Alex left. When he left and United started spending millions on players like Lukaku, Maguire, Fred, Fellaini, Lindelof, Pogba, Dimaria, etc, they became a normal team. Because they forgot what worked for them.

Fergie bought some expensive smart players like Rio, Berbatov, Van Persie, etc. to compliment the academy boys or some cheap smart signings like Carrick, Evra, Vandersar etc.

United is where they are today because they failed to build on the success of the 1992 class. They thought they could be like Madrid who are known for finding success with Galatcico signings.

On Barcelona. No words, the complete negligence of Barca B is why this club is completely bankrupt. It started with the signing of Neymar. Yes Neymar was good but his signing was the Genesis.

Then the signing of Grizeman, Coutinho, Dembele, Paulinho, Vidal, DeJong. All these players were not needed and considering their wages, they were needless. People will argue for DeJong, but DeJong is nothing but white Pogba, he simply does not fit whether we agree or not.

Had they (Barca) stood for what worked(La Masia) for them in the past, there will be no brokelona or what have you.

With FCB Athletic, things are getting better with the promotion of Gavi, Pena, Araujo, Fati***, Nico and even Balde.

United are also on the right track with some key youth promotions.

Moral: Never forget your root and stick with what worked for you.

Variety they say,is the spice of life. Dembele and Raphinha are two different types of RW. While Raphinha is inverted, Dembele will hugs the line delivering cutbacks and crosses. They can even play together. Nothing bad in having two different wingers.
Both are suitable for different opponents. The only issue with Raphinha is the money but then, no be me go pay for am

Dembele
Fati
Raphinha
Auba
Depay
Ferran

Too much attackers here but the most painful loss here is Luuk. What a game changer Barca let go!

mostob:
Variety they say,is the spice of life. Dembele and Raphinha are two different types of RW. While Raphinha is inverted, Dembele will hugs the line delivering cutbacks and crosses. They can even play together. Nothing bad in having two different wingers.
Both are suitable for different opponents. The only issue with Raphinha is the money but then, no be me go pay for am

Dembele
Fati
Raphinha
Auba
Depay
Ferran

Too much attackers here but the most painful loss here is Luuk. What a game changer Barca let go!

If Lewandowski was signed, then Depay will have to find his way out. No time for mediocrity. That will leave us with six top performers for three positions. If anyone messes up, they lose their position.

OhBritannia:
Things like this causes uproar and jealousy amongst players that have given their all for the club.
i just hope the price is not what we think because if Raphinha is worth 70 million then how much did man city get halland?
because last time i check, halland was willing to come to Barcelona but the fee was the issue.
even if we say as at then Barcelona didn't have the fund, there is a way Laporta could have convinced halland to be patient as we were on the edge of signing deals with sportify and co.

well i know it's all water under the bridge, all we can do now is give Laporta and the board our support and hope for the best.
We take joy in the fact that Raphinha is good and can only get better, and his determination to play for Barcelona is enough not to doubt his loyalty for the badge, he will give his all and that is the most important.

he kind of reminded me of Ronaldinho when he first came to Barcelona. i pray history repeats itself.

the "real" Haaland fee was the issue not the release clause

jpmoriarti:
If Lewandowski was signed, then Depay will have to find his way out. No time for mediocrity. That will leave us with six top performers for three positions. If anyone messes up, they lose their position.

Saw yesterday that ferran is out with a foot injury, Well Memphis will have to move, I really wanted him to succeed at barça but it is what it is

Kilishihunter:
Saw yesterday that ferran is out with a foot injury, Well Memphis will have to move, I really wanted him to succeed at barça but it is what it is

Yeahh I saw it. Season never start, that one is already getting injured. Like I dont even understand. Let's just get enough cover, so an injury to one player will not mean we're fucckked.

oliverano:
You're simply just playing with semantics because your assertion is not true.

For starters, Barcelona and United to some extent are known for their youth system which brought them so much success.

Let's start with United. The 1992 class dominated English football until Sir Alex left. When he left and United started spending millions on players like Lukaku, Maguire, Fred, Fellaini, Lindelof, Pogba, Dimaria, etc, they became a normal team. Because they forgot what worked for them.

Fergie bought some expensive smart players like Rio, Berbatov, Van Persie, etc. to compliment the academy boys or some cheap smart signings like Carrick, Evra, Vandersar etc.

United is where they are today because they failed to build on the success of the 1992 class. They thought they could be like Madrid who are known for finding success with Galatcico signings.

On Barcelona. No words, the complete negligence of Barca B is why this club is completely bankrupt. It started with the signing of Neymar. Yes Neymar was good but his signing was the Genesis.

Then the signing of Grizeman, Coutinho, Dembele, Paulinho, Vidal, DeJong. All these players were not needed and considering their wages, they were needless. People will argue for DeJong, but DeJong is nothing but white Pogba, he simply does not fit whether we agree or not.

Had they (Barca) stood for what worked(La Masia) for them in the past, there will be no brokelona or what have you.

With FCB Athletic, things are getting better with the promotion of Gavi, Pena, Araujo, Fati***, Nico and even Balde.

United are also on the right track with some key youth promotions.

Moral: Never forget your root and stick with what worked for you.

And how are you sure we would have gotten another talented set like the messi-Xavi- iniesta-busquets era bro? You can not strike gold every year with extremely gifted academy graduates, Reason why Fati had to be kept at all costs when man united came knocking for him cause he was our biggest attacking talent in several years and I don't concur with you saying neymar's purchase was the Genesis of our problems as he extremely helped us win laurels during the time he was here, It was gross financial mismanagement and lack of foresight from bartomeu's board after receiving that largesse of €222m that made us Brokelona

jpmoriarti:
Yeahh I saw it. Season never start, that one is already getting injured. Like I dont even understand. Let's just get enough cover, so an injury to one player will not mean we're fucckked.

That's one of the reasons why I'm not beating my head over the Raphinha deal (for now though) We seriously need depth and competition for places, and this one a world is coming up in December (Thanks to greedy FIFA) The fixture list of all competitions will be utterly jam-packed before and after the competition

Raphinha fee is not up to 70 million

I told you all ,make una go check update

jpmoriarti:
Yeahh I saw it. Season never start, that one is already getting injured. Like I dont even understand. Let's just get enough cover, so an injury to one player will not mean we're fucckked.

Calm down ,or you wanna blame him for getting injured ?

It’s a minor case ,man will be back in like 7 days