₦airaland Forum

Thisis2raw:
Ikwerre people are not igbos, I don't understand why igbos like to claim what's not there's

Thisis2raw:
Ikwerre people are not igbos, I don't understand why igbos like to claim what's not there's

Femifasola:
I'm yoruba, but I always see Ikwerre as igbo. Same culture, food and tradition. They are more related than we Yorubas and ijebu

Tranquill:
If you are Youruba then speak for your Youruba and don’t dabble into what is clearly beyond you.

GreatBoss:
I pity those that take this nonesense serious.
First Bonny and Opobo are Ijaws.

Secondly there are no Igbos in Bayelsa.

GreatBoss:
I pity those that take this nonesense serious.
First Bonny and Opobo are Ijaws.

Secondly there are no Igbos in Bayelsa.

Thisis2raw:
Ikwerre people are not igbos, I don't understand why igbos like to claim what's not there's

Nwaetche:
Who said so? Is this you personal opinion? Did you do any plebiscite to determine this. You really want us to take your opinion or some few seemly misguided folks as true representative of Ali Iwhuruohna dialis'

I am not from Iwhuruohna but i have many friends from there. KELGA is not only our neighbouring LGA that speak the same dialect like me but we used to be one local government before we agitated to have a separate LGA. Our Agitation was necessitated by the believe that the military will combine other Ochie people in the then Owerri LGA to form a single LGA in Rivers or Imo. It never happened and that is why we are suffering politically today. Minority clan in Rivers and minority clan in Imo State. We even have some of our villages seeded to Ngwaland in Abia. Ochie would have been numerous as Ikwerre if we have all our kith and kin in Rivers. So you can see why I hate this politics of divide and rule.It does not help any one.

We have the same problem with some folks in Kalabari Ethnic nationality that try to deny being Ijaw but they all become Ijaw whenever they find themself at the national level. Who did this to us in the Igboid clans?

I was almost quelling with a folk from Ali Ogba the other day that specialises in coming to Nairaland denigrate the Igbos of South East and trumpet that Ogba is not Igbo. He completely forgot that a famous son of Ogba that wrote the history book for his clan was a foremost Ohaneze chieftain and Igbo union. I was flabbergasted and queried if I should take his word against that of the respected High Chief Francis Ellah of blessed memory. He is still sticking to his guns.

So coming to your quote, are you saying that you are more knowledgeable than Obi Wali, Dede Chibuike Amaechi and Dede Okwukwu? Are you more knowledgeable than the former Eze Apara Rebisi that worked hard with Zik and Ebitu Ukiwe for the creation of the new Rivers state that our Ikwerre brothers are enjoying today?
This is how you folks go along to poisoning peoples mind and bringing hatred among brothers.

I hope you do not belong to the camp in Rivers murky politics encouraging our Omuma brothers to declare an ethnic nationality to further whittle down Etchie influence just as you are mouthing a notion that would ultimately whittle down the great Ikwerre influence to a minority status. Ali Ikwerre just like Ala Ochie is one of the oldest Southern Igbo ethnic nationalities.

Just Look at Nyerisi Ezebunwo Nyesom Wike today, a respected red cap Diali just lost his VP position by his naïve flippancy of denying his Nationality to a less popular figure in Ali Igbo. Atiku is still rubbing this on Nyerisi’s wound. In his last interview, he said he has always chosen Igbos in all his political race and he did the same this time again. He chose Okowa because Okowa professes his Igboness just like Ameachi.

We can play our local politics of bantunised ethnic nationalities to share the cake in Rivers state but please do not bring those to national discuss.

By the way, It would interest you to know that my grand father used to work at the Ahoada Division at Ali Ekpeye and I know a lot about our Igboid group in Rivers State.

9Pluto:
It is refreshing to read your write-up. I am impressed with your level of political awareness and historical knowledge. It is often pitiable to listen to most ikwerre newbies parrot their pseudo-identity devoid of historical evidence. Imagine a people who are at home with the Amadioha tradition(that is extensively practiced over a vast part of igboland) and bear it as names telling you they are not igbo. People who together with the larger owerri people became nwa diali as a way to become immune from Aro slave merchants. Upto 50% of people from todays ikwerre lga with the headquarters named after Okpo and Aro leader are most likely Aro. I could go on and on.

Nwaetche:
Please could you do a correction. It is very important to our "Ethnic nationality" . Etchie and Omuma are the same Ochie clan.

The Ochie clan have four LGAs in Imo and Rivers. Two in Rivers (Etchie and Omuma) and two in Imo State (Ngor Okpala and Owerri North). We are part of the ancient Ochie clan of the Southern Igbo group. I knoiw you do not have evil intention but we are very concerned as some folks are trying to cause division within our clan. There is a grand design to further dismember Etchie with the current agitation by misguided individuals led by a traditional ruler (Uthman Dan Fodio ensemble) once disgraced by Governor Wike to form Omuma Ethnic nationality. Ala Etchie Ekpela

Samyj247:
War Dance...We no de fear anybody....

Femifasola:
I'm yoruba, but I always see Ikwerre as igbo. Same culture, food and tradition. They are more related than we Yorubas and ijebu

GodsOwnMan:
omo ibo you ain't Yoruba. STOP the cap, you have already been exposed.

Veggieseedies:
Wether they are Igbos or not, you see Ijaw and Ikwerre, I will allow them both to drown in deep waters while I do all I can to rescue Akwa Ibomite/Cross Riverian


Like, why can't Igbos snub the two rats

Nwaetche:
Who said so? Is this you personal opinion? Did you do any plebiscite to determine this. You really want us to take your opinion or some few seemly misguided folks as true representative of Ali Iwhuruohna dialis'

I am not from Iwhuruohna but i have many friends from there. KELGA is not only our neighbouring LGA that speak the same dialect like me but we used to be one local government before we agitated to have a separate LGA. Our Agitation was necessitated by the believe that the military will combine other Ochie people in the then Owerri LGA to form a single LGA in Rivers or Imo. It never happened and that is why we are suffering politically today. Minority clan in Rivers and minority clan in Imo State. We even have some of our villages seeded to Ngwaland in Abia. Ochie would have been numerous as Ikwerre if we have all our kith and kin in Rivers. So you can see why I hate this politics of divide and rule.It does not help any one.

We have the same problem with some folks in Kalabari Ethnic nationality that try to deny being Ijaw but they all become Ijaw whenever they find themself at the national level. Who did this to us in the Igboid clans?

I was almost quelling with a folk from Ali Ogba the other day that specialises in coming to Nairaland denigrate the Igbos of South East and trumpet that Ogba is not Igbo. He completely forgot that a famous son of Ogba that wrote the history book for his clan was a foremost Ohaneze chieftain and Igbo union. I was flabbergasted and queried if I should take his word against that of the respected High Chief Francis Ellah of blessed memory. He is still sticking to his guns.

So coming to your quote, are you saying that you are more knowledgeable than Obi Wali, Dede Chibuike Amaechi and Dede Okwukwu? Are you more knowledgeable than the former Eze Apara Rebisi that worked hard with Zik and Ebitu Ukiwe for the creation of the new Rivers state that our Ikwerre brothers are enjoying today?
This is how you folks go along to poisoning peoples mind and bringing hatred among brothers.

I hope you do not belong to the camp in Rivers murky politics encouraging our Omuma brothers to declare an ethnic nationality to further whittle down Etchie influence just as you are mouthing a notion that would ultimately whittle down the great Ikwerre influence to a minority status. Ali Ikwerre just like Ala Ochie is one of the oldest Southern Igbo ethnic nationalities.

Just Look at Nyerisi Ezebunwo Nyesom Wike today, a respected red cap Diali just lost his VP position by his naïve flippancy of denying his Nationality to a less popular figure in Ali Igbo. Atiku is still rubbing this on Nyerisi’s wound. In his last interview, he said he has always chosen Igbos in all his political race and he did the same this time again. He chose Okowa because Okowa professes his Igboness just like Ameachi.

We can play our local politics of bantunised ethnic nationalities to share the cake in Rivers state but please do not bring those to national discuss.

By the way, It would interest you to know that my grand father used to work at the Ahoada Division at Ali Ekpeye and I know a lot about our Igboid group in Rivers State.

Remiel:
You got the nerves to call others rat when you godforsken,worthless,unwanted,baby factories abomination are the scum of the earth.
Listen you stupid igbo pig,no sane ijaw man will like to associate himself with anything igbo. It is you mother fbckers who keeps claiming ijaw subgroups as yours clown.

Samyj247:
SEE LIST OF NATIVE IGBO TRIBES FROM STATES OUTSIDE THE
SOUTH EAST
These are list of Igbos indigenous to states outside the present so called South East of Nigeria. See below:

RIVERS STATE
1) Egbema
2) Ecthe
3) Omuma
4) Ndoni
5) Ikwerre
6) Ekpeye
7) Obigbo
Opobo
9) Ogba

EDO STATE
10) Igbanke/Igboakiri
In fact most people do not even know that Arch Bishop Benson Idahosa and his wife are Igbo from Igbanke in Uhuonde Local Government area of EDO state that was formerly in Orhionwon LGA .
The mother of the late Samuel Odaigbovo Ogbemudia is Igbanke! Most indigenes of this town just like Ika people bear hybrid names that most often could just jolly well pass as EDO because of their names like Nduka Irabor, Jim Ovia, Omorogie Nwawanne, Collins Edumaruse etc

DELTA STATE
11). Ika
12) Ndokwa
13) Ukwuani
14) Aniocha
15) Oshimili

BAYELSA STATE
16) Osekwenike, Abuetor and Eke Okpokri villages, all in Sagbama area of bayelsa, are all Igbo of Ukwuani stock, and as such, are of the Anioma igbo clan of the Igbo ethnic group in BAYELSA

CROSS RIVER STATE
17) ISOBO , even liyl imoke former CR governor and wife are igbos from ABI LGA – CROSS RIVER

AKWA IBOM STATE
18) Ikot Udo Ika in Ika Local Government area of Akwa Ibom is an Igbo community.

BENUE STATE
19)The Igbos in Benue State particularly those in Ado, Oju, Obi and Okpoku LGAs of the state were in existence before the advent of Christian religion in Nigeria.
The Igbo found in Benue are: Umuezeokoha, Umuezeoka, Oriuzor, Umuoghara, Amaekka and Amaezekwe all in Ezza communities, Izzi, Ezzamgbo and Effium, these are the people who would have been in present-day Ebonyi State but due to the fact that the Nigerian government then carved them into Benue in order to suppress the population of the East. Apart from the Ezza-speaking clan, particularly the people of Umuezeokoha that has over 300 villages, if you are to
calculate the number of Igbo-speaking villages in Benue State, outside Umuezeokaoha, you would be talking altogether about over 600 villages. Three of the biggest markets in Benue are all in the Igbo- speaking part.
The markets are Inikiri Ichari, Iddah, Iduokpe. There are also some Igbo speaking Idoma towns in Benue State.

KOGI STATE
20) THE indigenouse Igbo-speaking communities in Kogi state especially in Ibaji and Igalamela/Odolu LGAs are Eke Avurugo community,such as Nwajala, Umuoye, Ubulie-Umuez, ozara, and umuoye and many more.

NOTE
The current Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi, Ojaja II, also told us that his kingdom was initially conquered by the Igbo (PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT HE WAS NOT REFERRING TO THE UGBO OF ONDO STATE)until they were rescued by Moremi and he also spoke of an aboriginal Igbo community that still exist in ILE Ife to this day.
The Ugbo people of Ondo State have the same Obatala linkage with the Aborigines of Ile Ife. Note: there are several Igbo towns in present-day Igboland that are called Ugbo. For instance, you have Ugbodu in Delta State, and Ugbo in Enugu State, just to mention a few.

#Igbohistoryandculturetv

Madmazel99:
Sorry what about Oke-igbo in Ondo State and Ijebu-Igbo in Ogun state, are they also part of igbo land? We learn everyday.

GreatBoss:
This is nonsense.
I'm Kalabari and we are Ijaws.
No person that knows their history say they are not Ijaw unless those foolish Kalabari that know nothing about the clan.

Tranquill:
Yes not only these ones but I can tell you authoritatively that Igboho in Osun and Ejigbo in Lagos are Igboland. Even Igede in Kwara, Ekiti and Benue are Igboland. They just changed the name from Egede to Igede after the war. Iseyin in Oyo sef has meaning in great Igbo language so must be part of Igbo republic…Igbo is large if you must know. I read recently on facebook that they are the ‘largest ethnic group’ in Garbon and Equitorial Guinea. Intact as I am typing this they are overtaking Xoha, Zulu. Venda. Tsonga in South Africa…. They are legion…..They are everywhere…

Tranquill:
If you are Youruba then speak for your Youruba and don’t dabble into what is clearly beyond you.

Viscuz:
Nice thread but Ijaws are more populated than the igbos

AlfaSeltzer:
I can tell you that Awka Etiti people in Anambra State are not Igbos.

Nwaetche:
My brother, I did not say that Kalabari is not ijaw. I only mentioned this in the context of some Igboid groups that deny their Igbo Nationality. I was actually asking my Igboid clans to learn from the Ijaw clans.

If you go through most of my write-ups, I have been very clear of my stand on the ethnic make up of Rivers State without emotional mix-up or bias.

If you must know, some Kalabari folks actually do deny being Ijaw because of Rivers State Politics. They would rather like to be addressed as Kalabari Ethnic Nationality instead of Ijaw Nation. You should know this if you are really from kalabari and Rivers State. There is even a popular association that opposes IYC and INC and have been advocating that IYC should be expelled for causing division in Kalabari land especially the way Bille/Udekeama Community was recognised as a separate Clan from Kalabari by IYC/INC. There is this seemly distrust brewing between the larger Ijaw and ethnic Kalabari based on internal Kalabari politics. Many Kalabari believe that the ijaws are instigating this to weaken them. I am not from there but as an ijaw nationalist yourself, I think you should look into it and get it resolved before it becomes intractable.

This is example.
Clear Reasons And Facts Why Kalabari Nation Is Not Ijaw Sub-group Not People That Came From Ijaw, But A Ethnic Group On Its Own, Despite We Are Seen As Minority In Present Day Nigeria.
Kalabari Indigenous Movement
https://www.facebook.com/page/118544505518424/search/?q=Ijaw

The good thing for now is that in spite of these local inter-clan resentments your folks will always identify as Ijaw once outside Rivers State or in a public forum with non-Ijaws. I wish our Igboid people will also learn this virtue.

Our Igbo folks in the South East do not interfere or meddle in our local inter-clan local politics and I think this is Igbo egalitarian way of life. I think it is good too. It ensures every igboid clan keep their unique identity but Nigeria and Rivers politics have long latched on these our old age quasi-independence of Igbo clans to forment trouble and bred hatred between Igboid clans and our larger Igbo family especially those outside the South East geopolitical area.
Some people say it all started after the civil war but my grandfather told that the seeds of distrust among igboid groups were planted long before the civil war. The war only offered our politcal competitors including unfortunately some people in our old Rivers the opportunity to balkanise Igboland and implant the division in order to dimmish the perceived Igbo numerical, economic and political dominance. It is a long story and please let me not bore you my friend with our story.

I fully support your determination to continue to unite your people irrespective of the artifial state boundaries and I am confident that our Igboid people will definitely bond more with our folks in other states of Nigeria as more of our people get enlightened.

I truely believe we can advocate for our different Nationalities (Ijaw and igbo) in a civilised way and with decorum as our forebears have done over the centuries of co-habitation as good neighbours in our blessed homeland.

There is an old adage that says Egbe bere Ugo bere.

Nwaetche:
Who said so? Is this you personal opinion? Did you do any plebiscite to determine this. You really want us to take your opinion or some few seemly misguided folks as true representative of Ali Iwhuruohna dialis'

I am not from Iwhuruohna but i have many friends from there. KELGA is not only our neighbouring LGA that speak the same dialect like me but we used to be one local government before we agitated to have a separate LGA. Our Agitation was necessitated by the believe that the military will combine other Ochie people in the then Owerri LGA to form a single LGA in Rivers or Imo. It never happened and that is why we are suffering politically today. Minority clan in Rivers and minority clan in Imo State. We even have some of our villages seeded to Ngwaland in Abia. Ochie would have been numerous as Ikwerre if we have all our kith and kin in Rivers. So you can see why I hate this politics of divide and rule.It does not help any one.

We have the same problem with some folks in Kalabari Ethnic nationality that try to deny being Ijaw but they all become Ijaw whenever they find themself at the national level. Who did this to us in the Igboid clans?

I was almost quelling with a folk from Ali Ogba the other day that specialises in coming to Nairaland denigrate the Igbos of South East and trumpet that Ogba is not Igbo. He completely forgot that a famous son of Ogba that wrote the history book for his clan was a foremost Ohaneze chieftain and Igbo union. I was flabbergasted and queried if I should take his word against that of the respected High Chief Francis Ellah of blessed memory. He is still sticking to his guns.

So coming to your quote, are you saying that you are more knowledgeable than Obi Wali, Dede Chibuike Amaechi and Dede Okwukwu? Are you more knowledgeable than the former Eze Apara Rebisi that worked hard with Zik and Ebitu Ukiwe for the creation of the new Rivers state that our Ikwerre brothers are enjoying today?
This is how you folks go along to poisoning peoples mind and bringing hatred among brothers.

I hope you do not belong to the camp in Rivers murky politics encouraging our Omuma brothers to declare an ethnic nationality to further whittle down Etchie influence just as you are mouthing a notion that would ultimately whittle down the great Ikwerre influence to a minority status. Ali Ikwerre just like Ala Ochie is one of the oldest Southern Igbo ethnic nationalities.

Just Look at Nyerisi Ezebunwo Nyesom Wike today, a respected red cap Diali just lost his VP position by his naïve flippancy of denying his Nationality to a less popular figure in Ali Igbo. Atiku is still rubbing this on Nyerisi’s wound. In his last interview, he said he has always chosen Igbos in all his political race and he did the same this time again. He chose Okowa because Okowa professes his Igboness just like Ameachi.

We can play our local politics of bantunised ethnic nationalities to share the cake in Rivers state but please do not bring those to national discuss.

By the way, It would interest you to know that my grand father used to work at the Ahoada Division at Ali Ekpeye and I know a lot about our Igboid group in Rivers State.