abduleez1:
Sweet news for DC Bros this week...

From Alan Horn back at WB, to Ben Affleck back as Batman in Aquaman to more connectivity in the movies. 2023 looks ripe and looking fruitful.
Supes update is the remainder cherry on the cake.

Baddestguyp:
If I were to make a series about Vampires...you would agree supernatural works right?

What if I later revealed the vampires were made through scientific experimentation? - it suddenly becomes sci-fi?


Then what if last episode, I revealed the source of the injections that were used to turn people into vampires were derived from the corpse of a real life vampire centuries ago?


Can you now see...you can't keep shifting...a story can contain multiple elements...
One element in a movie doesn't automatically remove the others

IbrahimMav
Nickshrapnel
Kaycee7

pu7pl3:


No it doesn't make sense.
Superman can't be wearing a mask, he is the symbol of hope for a reason.
His costume is perfect.

DandeNumeruno:


The Cabin in the Woods is a blend of 3 subgenre in one film, namely... Supernatural, Sci-fi and comedy.

Doctor Strange 2... Superhero, Supernatural, Action.

Katcall:
I'm quite surprised to learn of cabin in the motherfùcking woods for the first time. I didn't know such a movie existed in my universe. I need to take a break from my frequent time travels. By the way, i just came back from 60 BC. Caesar says hi.

Baddestguyp:
imbedded subtitles might not even be accurate...mine wasn't...
I got good one from subscene

VerifiedStalin:
The Boys contains no supernatural or science fiction elements. In general, it's a fantasy with sprinklings of satire, adventure, superhero, dark comedy, and action.

VerifiedStalin:
The Boys contains no supernatural or science fiction elements. In general, it's a fantasy with sprinklings of satire, adventure, superhero, dark comedy, and action.

DieRich5:
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Kaycee7:
Hold up. Chemical cocktail that gives you superhuman abilities is not in the realm of sci-fi?

Kaycee7:
Hold up. Chemical cocktail that gives you superhuman abilities is not in the realm of sci-fi?

IbrahimMav:


You're just confusing yourself all the more bro.
There's a simpler way of telling the difference between Sci-fi and supernatural genre.
In sci-fi, there is some sort of scientific explanation for the unreal things.
In Supernatural, unreal things defy scientific explanation.
In Sci-fi, fantasy stories are given plausibility with scientific explanation.
In Supernatural, plausibility is thrown out of the window as fantasy fully embrace the outrageous.

A simple zombie apocalypse film is a fantasy story with scientific explanation, therefore, a sci-fi film.
A vampire film is a fantasy story without a scientific explanation, therefore, a supernatural horror film.

These two genres have elements that sometimes overlap, but collectively, their respective elements are portrayed very differently.

pu7pl3:


No it doesn't make sense.
Superman can't be wearing a mask, he is the symbol of hope for a reason.
His costume is perfect.

VerifiedStalin:


No, it's magical, which falls squarely within the purview of fantasy. There is no science creation that would have you shooting death rays from your eyes.

With few exceptions, the vast majority of superhero movies and shows are pure fantasy. Their abilities are mostly magical, with no real-world explanation.

VerifiedStalin:


No, it's magical, which falls squarely within the purview of fantasy. There is no science creation that would have you shooting death rays from your eyes.

With few exceptions, the vast majority of superhero movies and shows are pure fantasy. Their abilities are mostly magical, with no real-world explanation.

GloriousGbola:


It's actually why you have the term hard science fiction. Ftl drives, laser pistols etal are not hard science.

Intersteller travel will take centuries. Also a lot of sci fi does not really take into account the effects of some of the things featured. You're born in space or you live in space, your skeleton will be warped.

So its not so much that the boys is fantasy per se, but that it is lazy or not hard sci fi.

The premise is simple after all - vought is a genetics company.

Ironically a movie that could be called hard science with regards to genetic is Gattaca,which has a future where tinkering with your kids genes is the thing and basic people are an underclass.

Kaycee7:
Sounds like you're missing the fiction in sci-fi. The whole point is that the science doesn't exist in the real world.
The creation of the super-powered individuals in The Boys is through a scientific process. The administration of a a deliberately synthesized chemical compound designated as Compound V. As there are no real life instances of such a scenario, the science is fictitious. Hence, it definitely falls in the realm of science fiction.

If the powers were gotten from administering some substance of unknown origin, then it would indeed fall squarely within the purview of fantasy.

VerifiedStalin:


When fantasy and science collide, we get a hybrid genre called science fantasy. Science fantasy differs from science fiction in one crucial way; While science fiction is based on a scientific premise, science fantasy invents science that does not exist in our reality.

An argument can be made that science fantasy is Speculative fiction as opposed to Science Fiction, because it is speculative rather than scientific. And, because Superhero is essentially a science fantasy, The Boys is a superhero TV show with satire, dark comedy, and action elements.

xynerise:
This will be a good fight.

But Darkseid will definitely win

GloriousGbola:


Give the man a cigar.

But science fantasy and fantasy are still different genres.

You can't say the hobbit and the terminator franchise are both fantasy.

Particularly as contemporary fantasy has binary good and evil.

The elements in contemporary fantasy are witches, wizards, warlocks, fairies, magical animal. Human hybrids, and monsters of some kind

VerifiedStalin:


Fantasy is a melting pot of speculative fiction. It is a broad genre.

GloriousGbola:


We can't call Harry Potter, the narnia chronicles, the Lord of the rings etal speculative fiction.

They do not even attempt to allude to science. They are all about magic.


Maybe star wars which is a mix of sci fi and fantasy.

pu7pl3:


Nice one❗❗❗

VerifiedStalin:
The Boys contains no supernatural or science fiction elements. In general, it's a fantasy with sprinklings of satire, adventure, superhero, dark comedy, and action.

xynerise:
This will be a good fight.

But Darkseid will definitely win

Nova15:

Then the concept of an alter ego for him doesn't make sense.

Katcall:
Did you see where Superman carried a free falling plane in Superman returns?