compton11:
be deceiving yourself there.

So atheists like Adolf hitlers,Stalin and Mao tse dung know these and they killed many people without remorse.


Ok now if I keep stealing from people and killing people and govt Never caught me until I die,then what will happen to me?

Hitler was a Christian

tctrills:
Crowders question is about Nigerian history. For example, if one ask, How did Islam enter Nigeria? This isn't an Islamic question. It's basically history. There is nothing wrong with kids knowing these things.
I bought my child a beautiful book about the ottoman history. We really should have a broad knowledge.

We have no business with the history of the Bible. No one religion represents Nigeria! No islamic related questions was arranged in that examination! If Christianity can be added then Islam should be added then Sango should be added as well as other traditional religion. That is equity!

Same way Christians will cry Muslim -muslim ticket but they won't fight for traditional religion to have a ticket in fairness!

Nothing concerns us with the private affair you had with your child! You're free to stuff your children with whatever you like till they're old enough to get the Truth themselves.

hopefulLandlord:
Hitler was a Christian

atheists say he was Christian and Christians say he was atheist.

tctrills:

Now the Chinese left religion how come they did not become a nation of thieves?

cos they know through the religion that are doing before and it will affect them if they keep stealing from themselves.

Or do u think they will feel remorse if they steal?


If I keep stealing and killing people and govt didn't catch me until I die,what will happen to me when I die?


I want answer to that bolded

tctrills:

If only religion recognizes crime, South America, Central America, and Mexico wouldn't be the violent crime headquarters that they are.

well all the nation u mentioned are Christians nation and Christians dont have law, that is why they follow Western law.

tctrills:


Also, as a Muslim, you should know that Mohhamed did not only fight against Mecca. Please do some research to learn of Mohammed's battles

he fought many Battle against his enemies,so how is that a problem?

compton11:
cos they know through the religion that are doing before and it will affect them if they keep stealing from themselves.

Or do u think they will feel remorse if they steal?


If I keep stealing and killing people and govt didn't catch me until I die,what will happen to me when I die?


I want answer to that bolded

well all the nation u mentioned are Christians nation and Christians dont have law, that is why they follow Western law.



he fought many Battle against his enemies,so how is that a problem?

When you invade another man's land and call him your enemy, it's call war crimes. What he did was the very same thing Hitler did in 1935. Hitler fought many battles against his enemies

AntiChristian:


We have no business with the history of the Bible. No one religion represents Nigeria! No islamic related questions was arranged in that examination! If Christianity can be added then Islam should be added then Sango should be added as well as other traditional religion. That is equity!

Same way Christians will cry Muslim -muslim ticket but they won't fight for traditional religion to have a ticket in fairness!

Nothing concerns us with the private affair you had with your child! You're free to stuff your children with whatever you like till they're old enough to get the Truth themselves.

Bishop Ajayi just like Usman Dan fodio represent Nigerian history.
A Muslim child is more educated if he knows how Christianity entered Nigeria.
Muslim-Muslim ticket is about power not education.

tctrills:

When you invade another man's land and call him your enemy, it's call war crimes. What he did was the very same thing Hitler did in 1935. Hitler fought many battles against his enemies

I like how u are ignoring my question.



If I keep stealing and killing people and govt didn't catch me until I die,what will happen to me when I die?


Answer me question

compton11:
I like how u are ignoring my question.



If I keep stealing and killing people and govt didn't catch me until I die,what will happen to me when I die?


Answer me question

I don't understand your question rephrase.

tctrills:

I don't understand your question rephrase.

I'm stealing from people
I'm raping people
I'm lying to hurt people
And I'm killing innocent people.

And I'm atheist/non-religious


Without getting caught by govt until I got old and die


what will happen to me after I died

compton11:


I'm stealing from people
I'm raping people
I'm lying to hurt people
And I'm killing innocent people.

And I'm atheist/non-religious


Without getting caught by govt until I got old and die


what will happen to me after I died

So atheists do not believe they would go anywhere after death. Most Atheist believe in improving and furthering human society not because of heaven or hell but because of the satisfaction and happiness they get in doing these good works. Examples of such people;
Dr Tai solarin
Mark Zuckerberg
Bill Gates
Albert Einstein
and many more.

tctrills:

So atheists do not believe they would go anywhere after death. Most Atheist believe in improving and furthering human society not because of heaven or hell but because of the satisfaction and happiness they get in doing these good works. Examples of such people;
Dr Tai solarin
Mark Zuckerberg
Bill Gates
Albert Einstein
and many more.

so if I escape govt and I die,then nothing will happen to me right?

compton11:
so if I escape govt and I die,then nothing will happen to me right?

What do you mean by nothing happens to you? If you are talking about heaven or hell many religions don't even believe in that. The Buddhists don't believe in heaven or hell. Many traditional African religions don't believe in heaven or hell yet these societies do not steal or kill.

tctrills:

What do you mean by nothing happens to you? If you are talking about heaven or hell many religions don't even believe in that. The Buddhists don't believe in heaven or hell. Many traditional African religions don't believe in heaven or hell yet these societies do not steal or kill.

is something going to happen to me as punishment for what I did on the earth?

compton11:
is something going to happen to me as punishment for what I did on the earth?

Atheists don't believe so.

tctrills:

Atheists don't believe so.

so that means I can kill and as still as far as I want.

If not because of religion, world would be worst than this

compton11:
so that means I can kill and as still as far as I want.

If not because of religion, world would be worst than this

There is no way you can tell. I have visited the prison many times. Most of the people I find in prisons are either Muslim or Christian.
I can't even remember seeing an atheist in jail so we can't tell if religion is making the world better. You might be right but we can't accurately tell because there is no evidence that religious people keep to the law any better than atheist.

AntiChristian:
By Farooq Kperogi

At least 3 questions in a GENERAL KNOWLEDGE exam that public primary school students in Lagos State took for the common entrance this year asked questions that only Christians—or people who’re familiar with Christianity—can correctly answer, putting Muslim and other non-Christian students at a disadvantage.

That’s objectionable symbolic violence, and it must redressed forthwith in the interest of fairness and justice.
See questions 11, 12, and 14. Even I, a journalism professor who attended government-funded Christian missionary primary and secondary schools, can’t answer questions 11 and 12 because I didn’t take Christian Religious Studies as a student.

Let's start with question 11. To ask students which earthly institution originated from—and was established by—God is to force a religious belief in them, which is a violation of the Nigerian Constitution. That question is in the province of faith, not fact. None of the options is factually correct.

Or did the examiners expect students to choose—and thereby invite them to believe— the “pastorate” as having originated from and established by God? That’s belief, not fact. You can't legitimately test students' belief in a general knowledge exam.
Even “marriage” can’t be correct because it’s a well-established fact in the anthropological literature that marriage didn’t always exist. The first recorded marriage between a man and woman has been periodized to be around 2350 B.C. in Mesopotamia. Before then, people just mated without marriage.
There are still societies such as the Mosuo, a Tibetan Buddhist community, where marriage doesn't exist.
Of course, "schools" and "politics" are decidedly recent human inventions.

So, what response did the examiners at Lagos State want students to pick as the correct answer?
And why is “imamate” not an option if “pastorate” is an option? This is obviously subtle, backhanded Christian proselytization in a secular, general-interest examination, and that’s unacceptable.
Question 12 is an even more blatant instance of noxious religious tyranny. I have not the vaguest clue where Paul was born. Why should a Muslim or non-Christian kid in primary school know that?
To expect a Muslim kid to know the answer to that question is as unfair as expecting a Christian kid to know who the four rightly guided caliphs in (Sunni) Islam are.

The answer to question 14 may seem obvious to people who pay attention to history, but we’re talking of 11- to 12-year-old primary school kids here.
A Muslim kid in Lagos is more likely to know that the Reverend M.S. Cole was the first person to translate the Qur’an into Yoruba in 1906 than that Bishop Ajayi Crowther translated the Bible into Yoruba.
Most importantly, though, those questions don’t belong in a general knowledge exam. No religious faith should be privileged in a secular, general-interest exam.

The Lagos State Ministry of Education must either cancel the exam or compensate students who missed the “correct” answers that braindead, emotionally stunted religious fanatics who set the questions have in mind.

https://web.facebook.com/farooqkperogi

Ọ̀gbẹ́ran!

This is the thread where your attention is needed:

https://www.nairaland.com/7269034/founder-islam-laid-dead-woman

Go and explain why your prophet did that!

MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀gbẹ́ran!

This is the thread where your attention is needed:

https://www.nairaland.com/7269034/founder-islam-laid-dead-woman

Go and explain why your prophet did that!

I have! You have eyes but no insight!

AntiChristian:

I have! You have eyes but no insight!

You have insight worshiping one promiscuous Arabian, shey?

tctrills:

There is no way you can tell. I have visited the prison many times. Most of the people I find in prisons are either Muslim or Christian.
I can't even remember seeing an atheist in jail so we can't tell if religion is making the world better. You might be right but we can't accurately tell because there is no evidence that religious people keep to the law any better than atheist.

the people u met in prison,are they criminal because of religion? Nah;

And they know damn well if they escape punishment for their evil in this world, they won't escape it hereafter.

tctrills:

Bishop Ajayi just like Usman Dan fodio represent Nigerian history.
A Muslim child is more educated if he knows how Christianity entered Nigeria.
Muslim-Muslim ticket is about power not education.

It is just sheer folly trying to continue this conversation with a bigoted mind!
Who represents Amadioha religion? Sango and Ogun Religion?

Abegi!

MaxInDHouse:


You have insight worshiping one promiscuous Arabian, shey?

Show me the evidence i worship one promiscuous Arabian?

Another Jehovah witness lie unfolds!

AntiChristian:

Show me the evidence i worship one promiscuous Arabian?
Another Jehovah witness lie unfolds!

Do you
:pray using his name?
:bow towards the stone he initiated in Mecca?
:make sacrifices yearly as he taught?
:argue in support of the book he fabricated?
:join others where they're calling his name?

I don't know how else you're to worship your God apart from these because all other religions do the same including bowing so you are a worshiper of that promiscuous Arabian Sir!

AntiChristian:


It is just sheer folly trying to continue this conversation with a bigoted mind!
Who represents Amadioha religion? Sango and Ogun Religion?

Abegi!

You guys are looking to score cheat points. You are angry that your son was taught who translated the bible to Yoruba.
I bought my child a kids book on the history of Islam so who is the bigot.
Stop being a narrow mind.

compton11:
the people u met in prison,are they criminal because of religion? Nah;

And they know damn well if they escape punishment for their evil in this world, they won't escape it hereafter.

I don't understand what you mean when you ask if they are prisoners because of religion. My point is, both the religious and non religious do bad things so the belief that people are good because of religion is not accurate.

tctrills:

I don't understand what you mean when you ask if they are prisoners because of religion. My point is, both the religious and non religious do bad things so the belief that people are good because of religion is not accurate.

yeah both religious and non religious do bad things but religious Know damn well they would be punished in the hereafter for what they did in this world unless they stop and do good

compton11:

yeah both religious and non religious do bad things but religious Know damn well they would be punished in the hereafter for what they did in this world unless they stop and do good

That's a lie!

There's a difference between religiosity and being a believer. Religiosity flows naturally as people notice that their neighbours are into some forms of worship and so as not to be left out they join the one that suits their liking.
But believers are unique individuals who wants to know what the future holds for them so they seek knowledge, about what the future holds and do all what they can to continue in the race with fellow believers.

Now here is the difference! While most religious ones just hold on to credulity so far they see others around them a believer keeps examining himself daily to be sure that he's on the right path. So a true believer will always think of the GATHERING of Holy ones and how to keep his membership even if they are vilified or even maltreated in the society but a religious person is only concerned with what the majority approves. Therefore when the majority choose to do what he knows is wrong the religious will easily flow with the trend but a believer will think twice perhaps he hasn't found the gathering of holy ones!

compton11:
yeah both religious and non religious do bad things but religious Know damn well they would be punished in the hereafter for what they did in this world unless they stop and do good

Religious people know this yet they still commit sin so the knowledge of heaven and hell does not prevent sin. Again, not all religions believe in afterlife punishment. The Buddhists for example do not believe in such.

tctrills:

You guys are looking to score cheat points. You are angry that your son was taught who translated the bible to Yoruba.
I bought my child a kids book on the history of Islam so who is the bigot.
Stop being a narrow mind.

Forcing a religion on someone who does not wish to know that religion is extremism!
You can do whatever you like with your kids!
But my kids do not need Christianity for anything!

AntiChristian:


Forcing a religion on someone who does not wish to know that religion is extremism!
You can do whatever you like with your kids!
But my kids do not need Christianity for anything!

Asking kids to answer questions based on history is not forcing Christianity on them. As I said you continue to prove to be the bigot. You are in no position to dictate what history kids should be taught in school. Teaching Muslim kids how the Yoruba bible came about is not teaching them Christian doctrine and if you have a problem with that, it's because you are a religious bigot.
again, if a Christian child is taught that an angel dictated the Koran to Muhammed, it does not make him a Muslim it only makes him more aware of the other's beliefs.

AntiChristian:


Forcing a religion on someone who does not wish to know that religion is extremism!
You can do whatever you like with your kids!
But my kids do not need Christianity for anything!

Secondly, more than once in our debates, you have used bible teaches and Christian doctrines in your argument. If you were able to learn these Christian talking points then why cant other Muslims be likewise exposed?

MaxInDHouse:


Do you
:pray using his name?

We pray to Allah alone.

:bow towards the stone he initiated in Mecca?

He never initiated any stone in Mecca! The Kaaba was from Abraham and Ishmael. I know you will sha tell lies!

:make sacrifices yearly as he taught?

Whoever is capable will offer sacrifice like Abraham did.

:argue in support of the book he fabricated?

He fabricated a Book! Where is the Book Jesus fabricated?

:join others where they're calling his name?

Why will they call his name?

I don't know how else you're to worship your God apart from these because all other religions do the same including bowing so you are a worshiper of that promiscuous Arabian Sir!

Worship involves intention and deed! When one is absent then worship is deficient!
No sane Muslim worship any human except Allah!

End of Jehovah Witness lies!