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Singapore1:
PSG are officially using back 3 this season

why are psg selling robust DMs in paredes, gana, and switching to back 3

Ibime:
PSG using back 3 because the front 3 don't do any work, so they need to pack men at the final phase after various overloads up the pitch caused by the front 3 allowing runners through. It's insurance policy against Messi, Neymar and Mbappes laziness, but that front 3 will pay them back in goals for the defensive laziness. Our own back 3 is insurance policy against our DMs sluggishness.

exactly! Playing to the team's strength is the key after everything. I don't care the formation we use as long as it yield positive result. We can't afford to play 4 at the back this moment; we don't have the machinery.

lordfalcao:
what is that thing that Kante is damn good at? Tackles and interceptions.. ? What ?

Check your midfield with the most interception and tackle last season. Answer: jorginho

roll out the passes of other midfielders, let us compare it.

Let's know how much effect, passes of arsenal and Liverpool DM has on Thier goal scoring output..

Sarri stared playing Kante everywhere to favour his favourite player..

Tuchel nko? Jorginho is still his favourite son?

Lol.
Abeg tell me what are other metrics rank above tackles and interceptions in football besides goals,assists and saves?
I make no apologies when I say that I don't do stats because you can intercept the ball 5 times that would probably have led to nothing in the same way you can pad your stats by passing sideways or backwards
OR
intercept the ball just once in a very dangerous situation and make one vital pass.

You can keep your stats.

dostr4:
We expect creativity from a dm, including incesive passing and foward passes . With the fitness issues from the middle yet jorginho is ever present of the 3.
Let's be honest what do we demand from kante, he breaks up passing lanes.(check) , do we dominate the middle with him or do we see him drop thoes thru passes, abi all he does is make runs & cover more distances, abi we look like a counter attacking team.
If we have to slander jorginho, kante shouldn't be exempted after all he is a Cm , CMs brings stats in play .

With a solid DM Kante will be more fine to cause attacking threat. With Jorginho we have a liability when defending. Go watch Matic Kante pairing and see how well shaped the team was simply because we have a DM that did his job properly, I.e, to defend and protect the back three properly when been attacked and also to make quick forward passes when attacking. With Jorginho, we are easily closed down when with the ball because he can only give short side and back passes. During Conte season with us, when Matic win the ball you see him lunch the ball to Hazard or Pedro. Jorginho rarely win the ball, and when he do he goes to the ground for free kick so that he can rest, you rarely see him win the ball and make use of it like other strong and quality CDM. Kante is a box to box player.

lordfalcao:
why are psg selling robust DMs in paredes, gana, and switching to back 3

I'm thinking it's because You don't need DM if you are going to be playing back 3.

Ibime:
PSG using back 3 because the front 3 don't do any work, so they need to pack men at the final phase after various overloads up the pitch caused by the front 3 allowing runners through. It's insurance policy against Messi, Neymar and Mbappes laziness, but that front 3 will pay them back in goals for the defensive laziness. Our own back 3 is insurance policy against our DMs sluggishness.

but they have robust mildfielder

Paredes, gana,

You always have them in high regard.

Why are they selling??

FBS:
Lol.
Abeg tell me what are other metrics rank above tackles and interceptions in football besides goals,assists and saves?
I make no apologies when I say that I don't do stats because you can intercept the ball 5 times that would probably have led to nothing in the same way you can pad your stats by passing sideways or backwards
OR
intercept the ball just once in a very dangerous situation and make one vital pass.

You tell me which one is more vital.

lol..

Point two vital interceptions and tackles or passes of kante

Singapore1:
exactly! Playing to the team's strength is the key after everything. I don't care the formation we use as long as it yield positive result. We can't afford to play 4 at the back this moment; we don't have the machinery.

You can also get rid of the teams weaknesses. Allowing a front 3 freedom who pay you back in goals is different from covering a DM who can't be trusted in one on one situations.

There is no part of Jogginghoes career that does not involve teams being rejigged to protect him from one on one situations, whether that is Italy and Sarri playing two robust CM/DMs in front of him or Tuchel playing back 3. The trade-off for altering a teams structure should be a specific strength he possesses like possession keeping and assists ala Pirlo. We have seen that his possession keeping means nothing to us because it always breaks down when the game is hot like under Sarri, and he does not have the long range vision of Pirlo, therefore replacement is better than cure.

Singapore1:
I'm thinking it's because You don't need DM if you are going to be playing back 3.

clearly shows Jorginho isn’t our problem

NinjaXmetahuman:
I tire o. I sometimes wonder if playing 433 would mean we get extra player on the pitch or something.

Why is no one asking guardiola to play back 3 to see if he can win champions league like we did.
They have been playing back 4 forever and still no ucl. Psg nko? May be a back 3 won't make them bottle ucl every year from a comfortable position.

I expect people to be obsessed with result not how 11 overpaid players are thrown on the pitch to run around.

Formation is not the problem but personnel which Tuchel is even trying by playing to their strength. Midfield is the heart of football so when it’s not working properly it affect the whole team playing structure which we are experiencing with Jorginho. Silver is covering a lot of things in the back that it take someone with eye test to appreciate him more, that guy reading of the game and ball playing ability is greatly helping our defense. We just need a solid DM, a replacement for Azpi and then a number 9 and the team will be ready to match man city and liverpool.

lordfalcao:
but they have robust mildfielder

Paredes, gana,

You always have them in high regard.

Why are they selling??

Paredes is not robust and Gana got pursued out for refusing to wear gãy flag. Gana has been carrying heavy load in that team admirably, with the front 3 refusal to do work.

lordfalcao:
lol..

Point two vital interceptions and tackles or passes of kante

Hehe.
You have fingers don't you and Google is free.

Kloppo:
Slowdroid??That one Na sadist nah....even when men dey banter and troll,he go dey check out for who LIKE and SHARE posts that is not "intelligent" enough or that doesn't agree with his dumb takes....what a fvcking wierdo!!!

We want to play a certain way when we have technical limited players and parade a 37 year old as first choice centre back, imagine Fernandinho still playing dm for city, he will surely be surrounded with more players.
I think Silva is one of the reasons for a back 3 & have to realise we're Silva injury away to having a disaster at the back hence TT wanting an extra Def.
TT has tried improvising with the team and it can only take him a little far.

Ibime:
Paredes is not robust and Gana got pursued out for refusing to wear gãy flag. Gana has been carrying heavy load in that team admirably, with the front 3 refusal to do work.

I agree with you on this.

hensben:
With a solid DM Kante will be more fine to cause attacking threat. With Jorginho we have a liability when defending. Go watch Matic Kante pairing and see how well shaped the team was simply because we have a DM that did his job properly, I.e, to defend and protect the back three properly when been attacked and also to make quick forward passes when attacking. With Jorginho, we are easily closed down when with the ball because he can only give short side and back passes. During Conte season with us, when Matic win the ball you see him lunch the ball to Hazard or Pedro. Jorginho rarely win the ball, and when he do he goes to the ground for free kick so that he can rest, you rarely see him win the ball and make use of it like other strong and quality CDM. Kante is a box to box player.

Oga I watch footy with my eyes and for a long time ,I barely miss our team play. Did u associate kante with attacking play , please what are his outputs in the last 2 seasons as a cm

Singapore1:
PSG are officially using back 3 this season

I wanted to say this before seeing your post. They are making it look like 3 atb formation is the problem when it is the personnel. You want to play two midfielders but one look weak and thin, the other one will be over labored na.

Ibime:
Paredes is not robust and Gana got pursued out for refusing to wear gãy flag. Gana has been carrying heavy load in that team well, with the front 3 refusal to do work.

lol..

Paredes you have always wanted as matic replacement no longer robust enough to play DM..

Gana that the coach didn’t find useful to his set up now pursued out for refusing to wear gay flag..

Psg has the characteristics of playing 4 at the back .

Two solid Cb, three solid attack,

But chose to play 3-4-3 with a robust DM..

Guy man, you know how to make up things..

hensben:
I wanted to say this before seeing your post. They are making it look like 3 atb formation is the problem when it is the personnel. You want to play two midfielders but one look weak and thin, the other one will be over labored na.

who is the robust DM that psg is using?

lordfalcao:
who is the robust DM that psg is using?

Psg is playing in a league they are dominating and also they signed Vintiha who is strong and technical this season to partner Verrati. This is the reason they able to play 3 atb this season.

FBS:
Hehe.
You have fingers don't you and Google is free.

I told you Jorgs, is outperforming kante.

You said you don’t believe stats, one vital interceptions or pass is better than 5 that didn’t result to nothing..

So you should list the vital ones kante had last season..

hensben:
Formation is not the problem but personnel which Tuchel is even trying by playing to their strength. Midfield is the heart of football so when it’s not working properly it affect the whole team playing structure which we are experiencing with Jorginho. Silver is covering a lot of things in the back that it take someone with eye test to appreciate him more, that guy reading of the game and ball playing ability is greatly helping our defense. We just need a solid DM, a replacement for Azpi and then a number 9 and the team will be ready to match man city and liverpool.

so people should be talking about players they feel it's not doing well. not formation.

Like one formation is the magic key to winning all the trophies while other teams cheer.


Jorhinho has his weaknesses, but he is definitely not the only problem in the that mid field.. and Chelsea donot have the worst mid field in the league. Infact we have one of the best mid field in the league. Our problem has always been the attack.

We dominated over 85% of the teams we played against last season.. only man city completely anihalated us. And it doesn't matter the formation we played, man city just had superior team.

Get good attackers who can actually take on players, not lose sitters or play like a worm and see difference.

Ibime:
PSG using back 3 because the front 3 don't do any work, so they need to pack men at the final phase after various overloads up the pitch caused by the front 3 allowing runners through. It's insurance policy against Messi, Neymar and Mbappes laziness, but that front 3 will pay them back in goals for the defensive laziness. Our own back 3 is insurance policy against our DMs sluggishness.

Lets leave Dm first with the current defenders can we successfully play a back 4

hensben:
With a solid DM Kante will be more fine to cause attacking threat. With Jorginho we have a liability when defending. Go watch Matic Kante pairing and see how well shaped the team was simply because we have a DM that did his job properly, I.e, to defend and protect the back three properly when been attacked and also to make quick forward passes when attacking. With Jorginho, we are easily closed down when with the ball because he can only give short side and back passes. During Conte season with us, when Matic win the ball you see him lunch the ball to Hazard or Pedro. Jorginho rarely win the ball, and when he do he goes to the ground for free kick so that he can rest, you rarely see him win the ball and make use of it like other strong and quality CDM. Kante is a box to box player.

it’s even safe enough to say that this matic you are talking about was protected by. Mourinho’s packing the box and conte defensive football..

Because the moment he was under a more attacking coach, he was handed seat belts and sent further down the bench to avoid been exposed of his slowness

NinjaXmetahuman:
so people should be talking about players they feel it's not doing well. not formation.

Like one formation is the magic key to winning all the trophies while other teams cheer.


Jorhinho has his weaknesses, but he is definitely not the only problem in the that mid field.. and Chelsea donot have the worst mid field in the league. Infact we have one of the best mid field in the league. Our problem has always been the attack.

We dominated over 85% of the teams we played against last season.. only man city completely anihalated us. And it doesn't matter the formation we played, man city just had superior team.

Get good attackers who can actually take on players, not lose sitters or play like a worm and see difference.

You are right about the attack and also I know that our midfield are not the worse in the league, we have one of the best midfield in the league but I am just saying if we want more improvement we have to get quality players in those three position.

dostr4:
Lets leave Dm first with the current defenders can we successfully play a back 4

If we sign Fofana we can play back 4. James Koulibaly fofana cucurella will do well in a back 4

Kova is the only good midfielder we have


But injury won't let us enjoy him

They should forget De jong in this window, sign Aubameyang and Fofana.

lordfalcao:
lol..

Paredes you have always wanted as matic replacement no longer robust enough to play DM..

Gana that the coach didn’t find useful to his set up now pursued out for refusing to wear gay flag..

Psg has the characteristics of playing 4 at the back .

Two solid Cb, three solid attack,

But chose to play 3-4-3 with a robust DM..

Guy man, you know how to make up things..

Paredes is just another CM in a two. Not the main DM. Paredes as replacement for Matic with the back 3 formation of Conte is very suitable, as Singapore1 has explained to you, you don't need a killer DM for a back 3. Context has always eluded you.

Yes Gana is being pursued for not wearing gay flag. Defying the executives with a new manager in charge who has no allegiance to Gana is enough for him to be frozen out. Gana seriously improved PSGs robustness and helped them to UCL final after several years of failure. I will throw away Jogginghoe for a 32 year old Gana right now. I have always been a fan of Gueye even when he got relegated with Villa. You will be mad to say Gana has not been a big improvement to PSG whatever the politics going on now. Watch players and assess them individually, their strengths and weaknesses and what they can bring to a team, not following hype or ignoring context

Ibime:
I like when people see beyond the obvious. . . such as this piece on Idrissa Gueye who could be a good signing for someone. . .


http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2016/4/27/11516470/idrissa-gueye-aston-villa-transfer-rumors

dostr4:
Lets leave Dm first with the current defenders can we successfully play a back 4

With a partner for Koulibaly and a new DM, we are good to go.

drisham:
Kova is the only good midfielder we have


But injury won't let us enjoy him

That's the same reason Madrid chased him inconsistency and inability to hold down his own

FBS:
I agree with you on this.

Anyone with eyes can see it