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Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by SenatePresdo(m): 9:47am On Aug 16, 2022
deeva2:
His spokesman is doing that.. His achievements and good legacies also speaks for him.. If you can't get the msg from them, then u need to check urself
Is his spokesman going to be the president?

Are you saying that he can't speak for himself?

Let election starts proper, he can only lose more fans on Daily basis as he has been losing them since he won the primaries.

Imagine a Presidential candidate that can't grant a live interview on national TV.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Joe4real1988(m): 9:50am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
Incoherent as usual, earning your daily living.

Does constitution as a paper have the ability to govern Nigeria?
Who are those who change the constitution if it has an issue?
Is it not the leaders?

Who are those that recognise that a constitution is defective in the first place and work towards modification? Is it not leadership?

Who are those who implement a good constitution? Is it not the leaders?

If you change 1999 constitution and retain bad leaders, will things change?

So that means everything boils down to human beings; leadership. Not the paper constitution
The mumu look like someone that reason right at all?. It's when u have good leaders everything fall in place. They don't read to digest what they read. Everything from Obi is a lie to them due to tribe and religion. Yeye youths undecided undecided undecided
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Anndrew(m): 9:51am On Aug 16, 2022
Vixlot:
Anambra State is bad example of failure in leadership
ur hate and propaganda for Obi will kill u Las las
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Broveens42(m): 9:53am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
Incoherent as usual, earning your daily living.

Does constitution as a paper have the ability to govern Nigeria?
Who are those who change the constitution if it has an issue?
Is it not the leaders?

Who are those that recognise that a constitution is defective in the first place and work towards modification? Is it not leadership?

Who are those who implement a good constitution? Is it not the leaders?

If you change 1999 constitution and retain bad leaders, will things change?

So that means everything boils down to human beings; leadership. Not the paper constitution
Poor psychology you got there. It is a system that inspires you to act accordingly not the other way round.
Do you think there are no corrupt people in China?
when they remember the kind of punishment they face for this crimes, they are forced to behave.
There are corrupt people all over the world.


Your constitution is a free license to corruption. Just have enough money or belong to the right group and you are good to go.
You can even flout court order and nothing will happen.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Nobody: 9:54am On Aug 16, 2022
Okealaaye:
Tell me the antecedents of Obi that make him tower over a former vice president who's a global entrepreneur or a Chattered Accountant who was a former senator and was once a governor. Or didn't you know that Obi had a Third Class degree in philosophy, obtained after extra years of study? Is that the kind of man I should submit my future to? When I'm not mad. In addition, Obi is unstable like Atiku. From APGA to PDP and now to Labour Party! That's not what good leadership consists of. Obi cannot be president of Nigeria, now or in the future. The surprise is why the Igbo should follow Obi when there are so many other Igbo men and women who are far better than him, and for whose candidatures no one need to plead for the support of other Nigerians? I would easily support Kingsley Moghalu or David Umahi any day. But Obi? Mbanu!
His antecedent is everywhere, you have refused to check it...

You mentioned global entrepreneur and you did not mention Obi? Are you ok?

You mentioned chartered accountant and you did not mention Obi who was a bank chairman in his 30s. Are you ok, man?

Even though they have told you Obi got a second class, you have retained you faulty third class narrative. What do I do with you now?

Even if he got a third class as you assume, we have had third class graduates who are Nobel laureate winners. We have had school dropouts even who are excellent in innovation.

You said Obi moved from one party to other. Tell me any other candidate who have not moved? Your candidate moved from AD to ACN and it's on record. The other candidate moved from PDP to ACN to PDP to APC to PDP. Yet you even consider him better.

What do I do with you now?

Moghalu has told you to vote Obi. If you trust him, then obey him
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by ArinzeAnthony03: 9:55am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
Incoherent as usual, earning your daily living.

Does constitution as a paper have the ability to govern Nigeria?
Who are those who change the constitution if it has an issue?
Is it not the leaders?

Who are those that recognise that a constitution is defective in the first place and work towards modification? Is it not leadership?

Who are those who implement a good constitution? Is it not the leaders?

If you change 1999 constitution and retain bad leaders, will things change?

So that means everything boils down to human beings; leadership. Not the paper constitution
You just nailed it. Without good leader, Constitution is useless. Even the small fundamental human rights in the said 1999 Constitution today, is Buhari following it .

Peter Obi is just the right person to make changes in the constitution if truly it has issues.

Thanks to all the Obident and Yousful people here.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Durabest: 9:57am On Aug 16, 2022
jrusky:
Nonsense talk. How can you run a better govt when aboki were the ones that wrote and passed the constitution to suit their side?

I said obi has no sense. Reason so our hs supporters reason so poor. See how his supporters who has been all along crying for rewritten of the constitution now suddenly supporting the thrash he vomited, very confused people they don't even know what they want I swear.
I said obi has nothing to offer, he does not understand national politics, he is still reasoning like Nigeria is Anambra.

God forbid obi to rule Nigeria.
When i said obi lack the capacity to handle internal issues they may think i hate him.Nigeria has grown passed where person like obi can handle.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Nobody: 9:59am On Aug 16, 2022
Broveens42:
Poor psychology you got there. It is a system that inspires you to act accordingly not the other way round.
Do you think there are no corrupt people in China?
when they remember the kind of punishment they face for this crimes, they are forced to behave.
There are corrupt people all over the world.


Your constitution is a free license to corruption. Just have enough money or belong to the right group and you are good to go.
You can even flout court order and nothing will happen.
Does constitution fall from heaven?

Did the current 99 constitution fall from above? Is it not leaders who brought it? Bad leaders...

I don't know how you want constitution to just appear without a good leader pushing for it.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Anndrew(m): 10:03am On Aug 16, 2022
Okealaaye:
So it is Peter Obi that will give Nigeria "a great constitution"? Go home and ask about what happened after Major-General JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi unilaterally changed the 1963 constitution via Decree 34 of 1966. And ask them to tell you the outcome of that foolishness.
you are the fool here,this is not 1963 or 1966...Mr alaye this is 2022..it thinking like this that drag us backwards,lack of brain to forseen the future ahead of us...for the record,Your thinking faculty is at danger alert zone
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Zorn: 10:05am On Aug 16, 2022
yemex04:
He is not the only one that understands the critical challenges of this nation...[/b]Everybody understands including probably your humble self does..[b]

But critical observation of his antecedents have not shown that he possesses the competence to influence the much needed turnaround...He talks about Production dependent economy but yet by his many import based businesses he has contributed immensely to Nigeria being a Consumption based Economy...You see,we must start getting answers to the ''HOW ?" Questions...Anybody can say anything,they all say good things..but we want to be convinced you have the "Know How"?
I believe he possesse the competence and the needed economic knowledge to revive the country from its current economic comatose and security challenges. judging from his frugality in managing public resources, I believe he will stop the wastage which has been the bane of our country right from inception. Peter Obi will position this country to its path of economics and industrial growth the next decade. I have not heard of any economic plans of other candidates rather than the ethnic banter they have been engaging netizens with , which clearly shows that they have nothing to offer rather than their usual tribal and religious politics which also is the bane of this country. Don't have much time to highlight the other plans that Peter Obi has . His goals are clear and are in conformity with what is needed for economic and industrial revolution in this century.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Broveens42(m):
Peter obi has shown He isn't different from other Nigerian politicians. I keep telling people, all Nigerian politicians irrespective of tribe and religion only have one agenda; to feast on the irregularities of the union called Nigeria.

Well I didn't expect less because he doesn't have the structure in the national assembly to push for a people oriented constitution
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by OloYeOfEgbE: 10:06am On Aug 16, 2022
Odin13:
OBi cretians are so high on Tinubu poo..

Wtf!

Dumb.

Sai Waziri!!

Power to the people
North 2023
People of Dubai

trashy
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by jrusky(m): 10:06am On Aug 16, 2022
Durabest:
When i said obi lack the capacity to handle internal issues they may think i hate him.Nigeria has grown passed where person like obi can handle.
Obi no get the liver to handle Nigeria. Ned Nwoko had said the truth obi is only good in national politics as a Minister not as president.

Anyway either he and his supporters believes it or not Obi can never be the president.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Allisgud: 10:07am On Aug 16, 2022
Only a mugu will read all this and still don't know who to vote for
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Allisgud: 10:10am On Aug 16, 2022
Only a mugu will after listening to this man will not know who to vote for
IF IT IS BY:

Competence - Peter Obi

Age - Peter Obi

Turn of the South - Peter Obi

Track Record - Peter Obi

Save the dying economy - Peter Obi

Qualifications - Peter Obi

Equity, Fairness, Unity - Peter Obi

Concrete Plans - Peter Obi

Tackle Insecurity - Peter Obi

Most Loved - Peter Obi

Widely Accepted - Peter Obi

Verifiable records - Peter Obi

Verifiable trace/source of income - Peter Obi
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Anndrew(m): 10:11am On Aug 16, 2022
Dubaku543:
Bleep you and Obi.... My heart is gladdened that Nigeria shall sink in no sooner time! It is highly inevitable even if Obi emerges. APC winning shall make it even sink faster and deeper!! Nigeria is a failed project. Mark it, if you don't take your stinking self and family away from this shithole of a country it shall consume you or one of your own.
And yes Obi is a good man at heart, that I will not deny.
This are words of a cowardice.....running away from home instead of making it, a home..young man,with due respect you are a coward
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Broveens42(m): 10:13am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
Does constitution fall from heaven?

Did the current 99 constitution fall from above? Is it not leaders who brought it? Bad leaders...

I don't know how you want constitution to just appear without a good leader pushing for it.
It has nothing to do with good or bad people. It has to do with 'will power'. A bad leader can have the will power to do something he thinks is beneficial to his people. A good leader may not even have the will power to effect a change...



But when a leader doesn't even acknowledge the Constitution as a bigger problem, then it's a red flag
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Dubaku543: 10:18am On Aug 16, 2022
Anndrew:
This are words of a cowardice.....running away from home instead of making it, a home..young man,with due respect you are a coward
I can't share a place with brainless zombies!! Clumsy oaf!!
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Durabest: 10:19am On Aug 16, 2022
jrusky:
Nonsense talk. How can you run a better govt when aboki were the ones that wrote and passed the constitution to suit their side?

I said obi has no sense. Reason so our hs supporters reason so poor. See how his supporters who has been all along crying for rewritten of the constitution now suddenly supporting the thrash he vomited, very confused people they don't even know what they want I swear.
I said obi has nothing to offer, he does not understand national politics, he is still reasoning like Nigeria is Anambra.

God forbid obi to rule Nigeria.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Broveens42(m): 10:21am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
Does constitution fall from heaven?

Did the current 99 constitution fall from above? Is it not leaders who brought it? Bad leaders...

I don't know how you want constitution to just appear without a good leader pushing for it.
Just ask a lawyer friend to truthfully interpret section 6, subsection 6 c of the Nigerian constitution, you may not want to vote in Nija again grin
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Durabest: 10:27am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
His antecedent is everywhere, you have refused to check it...

You mentioned global entrepreneur and you did not mention Obi? Are you ok?

You mentioned chartered accountant and you did not mention Obi who was a bank chairman in his 30s. Are you ok, man?

Even though they have told you Obi got a second class, you have retained you faulty third class narrative. What do I do with you now?

Even if he got a third class as you assume, we have had third class graduates who are Nobel laureate winners. We have had school dropouts even who are excellent in innovation.

You said Obi moved from one party to other. Tell me any other candidate who have not moved? Your candidate moved from AD to ACN and it's on record. The other candidate moved from PDP to ACN to PDP to APC to PDP. Yet you even consider him better.

What do I do with you now?

Moghalu has told you to vote Obi. If you trust him, then obey him
You just displayed your level of incompetence.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Durabest: 10:29am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
His antecedent is everywhere, you have refused to check it...

You mentioned global entrepreneur and you did not mention Obi? Are you ok?

You mentioned chartered accountant and you did not mention Obi who was a bank chairman in his 30s. Are you ok, man?

Even though they have told you Obi got a second class, you have retained you faulty third class narrative. What do I do with you now?

Even if he got a third class as you assume, we have had third class graduates who are Nobel laureate winners. We have had school dropouts even who are excellent in innovation.

You said Obi moved from one party to other. Tell me any other candidate who have not moved? Your candidate moved from AD to ACN and it's on record. The other candidate moved from PDP to ACN to PDP to APC to PDP. Yet you even consider him better.

What do I do with you now?

Moghalu has told you to vote Obi. If you trust him, then obey him
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Anndrew(m): 10:29am On Aug 16, 2022
Dubaku543:
I can't share a place with brainless zombies!! Clumsy oaf!!
Like I say,Young Man,you are a real coward..
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Deadlytruth(m): 10:29am On Aug 16, 2022
Papacypaul:
You are the idiot here, every civilized world build strong institution and not people alone. Institution outlast people. Nigeria doesn't want to build institution but come looking for leaders with "Messianic tendency" ,our brain has been damaged occasioned by religion into this a messiah thing ,every four four years only to be once again disappointed.
How will sane human say 1999 military decree is not our problem and you believe if you are sane yourself? When did people that made up of Nigeria sit and write the military decree because for a document to be term a constitution, it must be peopled.

Now ,to please Hausa Fulani slave masters, every southern presidential candidate will always pretend this Parasitic Unitary system of government Fraudgeria practice is not the problem.
Tell me a country on planet Earth that practice unitary system of government where there are 3 major Ethnic nation (without clear majority), it is not possible because there will never be basis for development ,it will be implosion here and there. For a Unitary system to work anywhere, there must be dominant Ethnic nation who will Lord over the smaller ethnic groups. Just like putting German,French and English together then expect the country to be great.

Many of you are retards anyway.
You are indeed a great analyst.
The irony in all of these is that those who have been chanting restructuring in the past seven years, with the loudest volumes coming from the SE and SS, are surprisingly falling over themselves now to rationalize Peter Obi's statement that the problem of Nigeria is bad leadership and not the 1999 constitution just because Obi is their prefered candidate. Wasn't it this same line of the-constitution-is-not-our-problem-but-corrupt-politicians Buhari and some key Northern figures have been towing all this while and for which these SE and SS goons hate them with a passion and arguing that such opinion is fueled by their greed and desire to keep living off the resources of the South especially the Niger Delta?
As a SS native, I too have been an ardent crusader against Northerners over this theory of theirs that Nigeria's problem had nothing to do with structure but with corruption. But with the pouring out of my fellow SS people here defending Peter Obi for now taking this same pro-Northern Oligarchy position just in pursuit of political correctness, it had dawned rudely on me that the shouts of restructuring from the SS and SE was never out of a genuine conviction or commitment to it but just for political expediency. I therefore apologize to all Northerners I have been very critical of whenever they argued that those shouting restructuring were doing so because they lost out in the power game at the center. I now see that Northerners are correct and that Southerners, especially those of the SE and SS are shameless hypocrites and crass opportunists who don't really know what they want.
Gosh! How can anyone who went to a higher institution and claims some minimum level of intelligence support and try to justify the utterance that the 1999 constitution is not at the root of Nigeria's failure?
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by itsene: 10:33am On Aug 16, 2022
So Obi is against restructuring and referendum.
I hope the rowdy troopers take notice.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Broveens42(m): 10:45am On Aug 16, 2022
Deadlytruth:
You are indeed a great analyst.
The irony in all of these is that those who have been chanting restructuring in the past seven years, with the loudest volumes coming from the SE and SS, are surprisingly falling over themselves now to rationalize Peter Obi's statement that the problem of Nigeria is bad leadership and not the 1999 constitution just because Obi is their prefered candidate. Wasn't it this same line of the-constitution-is-not-our-problem-but-corrupt-politicians Buhari and some key Northern figures have been towing all this while and for which these SE and SS goons hate them with a passion and arguing that such opinion is fueled by their greed and desire to keep living off the resources of the South especially the Niger Delta?
As a SS native, I too have been an ardent crusader against Northerners over this theory of theirs that Nigeria's problem had nothing to do with structure but with corruption. But with the pouring out of my fellow SS people here defending Peter Obi for now taking this same pro-Northern Oligarchy position just in pursuit of political correctness, it had dawned rudely on me that the shouts of restructuring from the SS and SE was never out of a genuine conviction or commitment to it but just for political expediency. I therefore apologize to all Northerners I have been very critical of whenever they argued that those shouting restructuring were doing so because they lost out in the power game at the center. I now see that Northerners are correct and that Southerners, especially those of the SE and SS are shameless hypocrites and crass opportunists who don't really know what they want.
Gosh! How can anyone who went to a higher institution and claims some minimum level of intelligence support and try to justify the utterance that the 1999 constitution is not at the root of Nigeria's failure?
grin
The earlier we end this union, the better for everybody.
You have written well, it's been hypocrisy all along.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Invitationn: 10:45am On Aug 16, 2022
Shayetet13:
Does constitution fall from heaven?

You agreed 99 constitution is bad. I agree too.

Who brought it? Is it not our bad leaders

You want it to change, right? Who will change it? The same bad leaders?

The priority is good leadership first and that's what Peter Obi is saying...

When we elect him, processes would be put in place to make the country work and if the impediment is 99 constitution, then only a good leader like Peter and others can create an agenda to achieve it.

Let's reason it now...

Is it the 99 constitution making us unable to produce power beyond 4000 mega watts?

Is it the 99 constitution that's making our Leaders to loot us dry? Before the 99 constitution, didn't we have Abacha who looted the hell out of this country?

99 constitution is flawed, but we must start somewhere workable, which is electing good leaders.
You're mixing it up.
And I'm sorry to disappoint you, matter of fact, the 99 constitution aids impunity and injustice, impunity begets corruption.
Abacha was a military dictator. He abolished whatever constitution and laws he met and ruled with decrees. That analogy is faulty.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by itsene: 10:46am On Aug 16, 2022
Nukilia:
I believe PO decided to dodge the question. Concealing your real intention is key
Deceiving the people is the key.
Haba, Obi has nothing to offer, my friend.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by SU50: 10:56am On Aug 16, 2022
Princess80:
The "average Nigerian" knows this and probably more.
The question is, what are you going to do to change the narrative?
Save maybe obi fans.

I have always maintained this stance, everyone reading and interacting know these things, what's the plan to deal with it, that's the major issue.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by deeva2: 11:07am On Aug 16, 2022
SenatePresdo:
Is his spokesman going to be the president?

Are you saying that he can't speak for himself?

Let election starts proper, he can only lose more fans on Daily basis as he has been losing them since he won the primaries.

Imagine a Presidential candidate that can't grant a live interview on national TV.
Do you even know the meaning or the job of a spokesperson
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Neoteny(m): 11:12am On Aug 16, 2022
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
"the more you pull people out of poverty, the more you reduce criminality".


Obi energy is unmatched... Abeg when will 'Baba wey no well' grant an interview?
But that's common sense nah.

It's like being amazed when someone says 1 plus 1 equals 2.
Re: Peter Obi: Bad Leadership Holding Nigeria Down, Not 1999 Constitution by Nobody: 11:14am On Aug 16, 2022
Broveens42:
It has nothing to do with good or bad people. It has to do with 'will power'. A bad leader can have the will power to do something he thinks is beneficial to his people. A good leader may not even have the will power to effect a change...



But when a leader doesn't even acknowledge the Constitution as a bigger problem, then it's a red flag
I understand all these. The question is; what is the way forward?

A good leader comes in

He raises the agenda for the change of constitution plus addressing other many issues we have not as a result of constitution. I don't believe it's constitution making Nigeria still producing 4000megawatts despite investing Billions of dollars

Or a bad leader comes in, complicates things like Buhari did and still retain the constitution which favours bad leaders
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