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GeneralDae2:
But I just watched an interview on channels tv Nigeria about 40 minutes ago where the Channels TV presenter asked a South African presenter in South Africa about the load shedding in South Africa currently and he said: Load shedding is still terrible.
He said the Eskom sometimes notify the public in some areas that load shedding would occur from 4pm everyday.
The South African Presenter was being interviewed on Total's possible oil exploration in South Africa.
I think South Africa has load shedding but maybe your area in South Africa doesn't have that. I have also seen a guy who lived all his life in the middle belt area of Nigeria (around Plateau) who said he's always gotten 24 hours power supply growing up until now.

GeneralDae:
My Kenyan people, it seems election tensions are not yet over.

obaaderemi:
So blaming the citizens for poor government policies and corruption is a good excuse for government failure. Continue. Even in the Niger Delta where state governors take 13% and do nothing, the people are to blame. It might interest you to know that in all big oil producing countries low tax is the order of the day. Check Iran's tax rate and see how low it is and yet government subsidizes even food for the people. Do you know how much the EU takes agricultural subsidies seriously? Right now due to inflation in America households are getting paid by government, in the UK government is slashing energy cost for the people. So you better open your eyes and know that your government has raped you to death.

There's chapter 11 and chapter 7 in America, they have student loans, etc. Tell me what your own government does other than providing rubbish public education and you are here clapping for them like many other benighted Africans do. Why am I even arguing with someone who says citizens are to blame for government's inability to fight terrorism. Only APC arselickers think this way. Pardon my French, Mate.

Wotowotonation:
Total rubbish

Tell me the population of Iran compare with Nigeria and their oil out put to total amount they acquire from oil sale before trying use them as example and don't compare Nigeria to EU or USA compare Apple to Apple not Pineapple.


I never said the government are saint but the citizens themselves are also culprits. You should answer this questions before trying to see fault in what I said.


1. Are the same citizens who claims the government is borrowing to build infrastructure ready to pay high tax without complaining?

2. Are the same citizens who claims Nigeria oil output is low ready to pay high fuel price without subsidizing it.


3. Are the same citizens who always complain of the colapse of national grid ready to pay high price for light like other countries?


The same citizens who want good leadership will always support their tribes men even if they are totally wrong.


Abeg oga shift!!!!!!!!

theenchanter:
I don't even want to dabble into this citizens/leaders issue cos many people are of the notion that the leaders are the major corrupt element in Nigeria. we put the blame on leaders so much forgetting that those leaders were once citizens, they weren't just possessed by corrupt spirit when elected.

Where Nigeria's corrupt practice is much is the civil service, these are agencies where ordinary citizens like u and I work.... Some may not know this because we cast too much attention on the leaders but I dare say that the cumulative amount stolen by civil servants is more than what politicians steal.

GeneralDae:
My Kenyan people, it seems election tensions are not yet over.

Wotowotonation:
Total rubbish

Tell me the population of Iran compare with Nigeria and their oil out put to total amount they acquire from oil sale before trying use them as example and don't compare Nigeria to EU or USA compare Apple to Apple not Pineapple.


I never said the government are saint but the citizens themselves are also culprits. You should answer this questions before trying to see fault in what I said.


1. Are the same citizens who claims the government is borrowing to build infrastructure ready to pay high tax without complaining?

2. Are the same citizens who claims Nigeria oil output is low ready to pay high fuel price without subsidizing it.


3. Are the same citizens who always complain of the colapse of national grid ready to pay high price for light like other countries?


The same citizens who want good leadership will always support their tribes men even if they are totally wrong.


Abeg oga shift!!!!!!!!

theenchanter:
I don't even want to dabble into this citizens/leaders issue cos many people are of the notion that the leaders are the major corrupt element in Nigeria. we put the blame on leaders so much forgetting that those leaders were once citizens, they weren't just possessed by corrupt spirit when elected.

Where Nigeria's corrupt practice is much is the civil service, these are agencies where ordinary citizens like u and I work.... Some may not know this because we cast too much attention on the leaders but I dare say that the cumulative amount stolen by civil servants is more than what politicians steal.

“The trouble with Nigeria is simply and
squarely a failure of leadership,” reads the
first sentence in The Trouble with Nigeria .
“There’s nothing basically wrong with the
Nigerian character. The Nigerian problem is
the unwillingness or inability of its leaders
to rise to the responsibility, to the challenge
of personal example which are the
hallmarks of true leadership,” he adds.

jl115:
I'm saying we don't have load shedding currently.

samorobo:
Story. You always have load shedding.This is a pure fact. Stop giving some cheap screenshot of lines connected to hospitals,factories and the likes

jl115:
I'm saying we don't have load shedding currently.

obaaderemi:
Keeping the ANC in power all this year's is a terrible mistake. But I guess majority of south Africans will still vote for that party in the next election. ANC has served its purpose.

obaaderemi:
Everyone including the Kenyans ignore that lost soul here. He's not complete upstairs.

jl115:
nope, they are polling less than 40% in some polls

GeneralDae:
My Kenyan people, it seems election tensions are not yet over.

obaaderemi:
A successful world renowned man has this to tell you...

When you can't set personal example as a leader, people misbehave. You steal and flaunt it as a leader and you expect those under you not to steal? Sorry....

The book is by Chinua achebe by the way.

theenchanter:
I'm not in any way exonerating the leaders and I'm not attributing our collective failure on the citizens alone. I'm only making a case for "corruption" and "corruption" only.

I'm putting it to u that the corrupt citizen of today will become the corrupt leader of tomorrow and we'll shy away from it while the circle continues.

obaaderemi:
Ok.
Even an angel will become corrupt if he joins the leadership class in Africa. People who excel in the private sector and are firebrands become thieves when they join the politicians.
Why? Because of the absolute power LEADERSHIP affords them. They're able to prune that in sane societies because of age-long checks and balances. Abi, you think white people are not as bad as blacks?

theenchanter:
white people aside, their own form of corruption isn't like ours, u don't see many of them embezzle state fund to stash it in other countries. Patapata na bribery or leaking of classified national information.

And have u wondered why people who excel in private sectors become thieves when they join politics? Do u think we don't have those check and balance in Nigeria? bro, there's check n balance in every govt parastatals. Even the three Arm of govt is a form of check n balance on its own.

Do u know that if an upright person joins a govt agency and decides not to be corrupt, his colleagues will make him corrupt and if he chooses not to, na those same colleagues go find how he go take commot Say he won spoil their chop?

gallivant:
Karimeru II Dam

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