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ImperialYoruba:
What SE has is violence and chaos. Barbarism!

West on the other hand uses orderliness, organization, process to increasingly break down the barriers in its path. Civilization!

Do shut up!

The post you responded to made a innocent observation which at no point said anything negative about the Yoruba! But true to your insecure and meddlesome type, the Igbo-hating bigot in you just had to surface and find a way to get in a dig at a people you despise with passion!

MDM2021:
Are you saying Ceaser has crossed the Rubicon and Rome must prepare for its eventual fall?

Pretty much!


PS-Can see you’re a student of Greco-Roman history!

MDM2021:
There's nothing you foresaw that had not been foreseen by the Yorubas. What you saw in 1966 that led to the first military coup and in 1967 that led to the Civil War had been foreseen about 10 years before then by the Yorubas. They warned and told you to have a secession clause in the constitution but you rejected the idea for economic reasons and due to greed for other people's lands. When the Yorubas saw your opposition to the secession clause, they settled for another alternative that was available, though not the best one, which is a federal structure with regional autonomy. That structure barely lasted for 6 years when an Ibo man named Aguiyi Ironsi destroyed it. So, save us the crocodile's tears and the cat's sermon.

I have nothing against a yurobaman , God bear me witness,I only pointed out the obvious,I believe in equity and fairness,so it will be difficult for me to criticize anyone who claim to be fighting the same thing.

But same cannot be said about most of you, south east leaders have made their mistake,is igboman going to live with the mistake of few individual for the rest of his life?

Oga you guys were at the forefront of the opposition against secession champion by an igboman , what have change within that space of time?

ipobcannibals:
You also failed to mention ‘we don’t eat our victims as suya like the Ipigs/ESN cannibals’

Advocate500:
I have nothing against a yurobaman , God bear me witness,I only pointed out the obvious,I believe in equity and fairness,so it will be difficult for me to criticize anyone who claim to be fighting the same thing.

But same cannot be said about most of you, south east leaders have made their mistake,is igboman going to live with the mistake of few individual for the rest of his life?

Oga you guys were at the forefront of the opposition against secession champion by an igboman , what have change within that space of time?

This is where the mistake is being repeatedly made. That some Yorubas continue to speak against the creation of Biafra should not be viewed as the mind of all Yorubas. Likewise, that some Ibos continue to speak against the creation of Yoruba nation or Oduduwa nation should not be perceived as the mind of all Ibos.

There are even some online commentors that are neither Ibos nor Yorubas but continue to speak against the creation of both Biafra and Yoruba nations as they fear what will happen to them should these two peoples be allowed to exit Nigeria.

There are also some Yorubas that are against the creation of Yoruba nation just as there are Ibos that are against the creation of Biafra all because of their selfish reasons. Whatever, no region should be forced to join a new marriage without the consent of its people.

What I consider hypocritical, however, is for some Ibos to keep saying what they saw in 1966/67 that made them to go the way of coup/civil war was not seen by the Yorubas until latter years. I consider that as being perfidous and an attempt to re-write history as Nigeria did not start in 1966/67. I hardly read the Ibos owing up to the mistakes of their leaders like you just did and condemning those mistakes the way they often attack the Yoruba leaders. The Ibos hardly admit that the Biafra of 1967 included many people of minority groups in the old Eastern region, especially those like Adaka Boro who had earlier wanted out of the Eastern region the way the Midwest was taken out of the old Western region.

That Nigeria marriage of over 60 years is not working is obvious to the blind. Nevertheless, I observed the current state of things and concluded within me that based on anticidendts, it will be easier for an Ibo man to be the president of the country if the idea is first well supported by the other two blocks in the South. To support that idea, however, I also concluded based on observations that the power at the center must be made weak to allow for regional autonomy such that no people's cultural and natural boundaries will be considered a 'no man's land', expressed or implied. Alternatively, the regions may be allowed to go their separate ways as being agitated now.

PROUDIGBO:
We can’t!

The present status-quo and political-economy didn’t just happen like that! It’s the result of a decades long conscious effort to tilt everything in favour of the Fulani hegemony that hold sway today!

Asking for help from the face and physical representation of this hegemony, Buhari, to either change said status-quo and political-economy….or to oversee the disintegration of ‘one Nigeria’, is like asking a lion to give up a tasty meal of antelope meat! Impossicant as Zebby might say!

Does Akintoye actually think that if they allow the Yoruba to secede, Ndigbo would be looking on at proceedings without wanting to jakpa themselves!?

Alright

butterfly777:
Who is seeing Ipob differently? Is it me?

I support the right of everyone for self actualization, Ipob Biafra included.

alright

Ofunaofu:
Mixed reactions are trailing a letter written to President Muhammadu Buhari by a Yoruba leader, Professor Banji Akintoye, asking for the support of the President for the South-West people to secede from Nigeria.

Akintoye, who wrote on behalf of the Yoruba Self-Determined Movement, YSDM, told Buhari that the South-West wanted a “peaceful break away” of the Yoruba nation from Nigeria.

He said in the letter that an overwhelming number of the Yoruba want out of the country because of their “worsening and painful plight.”

The letter read in part: “Mr President, the Yoruba Self-Determination Movement now serves you notice of the decision of the Yoruba people to assert their right to self-determination which is an inalienable and unquestionable right of every indigenous nation in the world.


“Upon asserting this right of self-determination, we the Yoruba nation shall be free to determine our political status, pursue our economic, social and cultural development according to policies chosen independently by us, and to live under the government independently chosen and ordered by us”.

The letter has divided the leaders and stakeholders of Yorubaland. Expectedly, the disagreement is between those who are in support of the Akintoye group’s move and those against.

‘Akintoye is right’

The Secretary-General, Yoruba Council of Elders, YCE, Dr Kunle Olajide, is one of those on the side of the YSDM leader. One of his reasons he gave for his decision is that people could no longer go to their farms due to insecurity.

Olajide said: “Prof. Akintoye is right and the YCE is in support of what he has said. You and I know that we have not sat down anywhere to properly plan, discuss and have a majority agree that it must happen on a particular day. “However, there is still room for discussion because we have some of our men and women in this Federal Government as well. We must not see the FG as being different and we, the Yoruba, as different.

“We have Yoruba ministers and, presently, a Yoruba is the Vice President.

“ I would advice Akintoye to look for an opportunity to invite our son, Vice President Yemi Osinbajo, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and one of the Senate leaders to sit together and take a decision.

“If we are not free to go to our farms and walk safely in the country because government cannot guarantee our safety, then you do not blame anybody in this country that is considering the other option.”

Nothing is wrong – Arogbofa

A former General Secretary of Afenifere, Bashorun Sehinde Arogbofa, echoed Olajide’s sentiment, saying there was nothing wrong in seeking self-determination.

“I don’t see anything wrong in that, at least, it will be on record that such request was made to the government. He’s in order, what he has written is supported by us”, Arogbofa noted.

Important step – Ajibulu

The General Secretary of the Ekiti Council of Elders, Elder Niyi Ajibulu, said the letter was an important step in resolving the protracted issues in the country.

“It is only through discussion that issues can be resolved. I think it’s the right step in the right direction; rather than creating problems, the best thing is for them to write a letter and for the Federal Government to respond”, Ajibulu said.

“The request is for a meeting to discuss, it shouldn’t be too difficult for government to sit down with any group and discuss how to solve the problem confronting the nation”.

Nobody is happy – Ogunsakin

On his part, the Chairman of Ekiti Traditional Chieftaincy Title Holders, Chief Olu Ogunsakin, stressed that Akintoye spoke the minds of the Yoruba people.

“I read the letter and I don’t think there is nothing wrong in that. At least, he expressed the minds of the Yoruba people in that letter and I don’t think I have any objection to that write-up”, Ogunsakin said.

“He spoke on behalf of the Yoruba and, with the way things are going, nobody is really happy with the situation in the country”.

Also speaking, a public affairs commentator, Zadok Akintoye, said it had become necessary that civil channels like the one used by Akintoye be encouraged in place of violent agitations like the one done by the Indigenous Peoples of Biafra, IPoB, among others.

“I commend this effort and believe it has become important to take this route as a path to the actualization of more independent regions”, he stated.

‘Peaceful separation’

A former gubernatorial candidate in Ogun State, Ogbeni Lanre Banjo, said, “The tone of the letter is to seek peaceful separation or allowance of regional governments.

“The decision to have a separate nation is that of an overwhelming majority of Yoruba worldwide. Submission of over five million signatures required by the United Nation to substantiate that requirement has been complied with.

“One of the other steps is to notify the President of the country. The letter specifically stated the sufferings of other ethnicities in the hands of the President’s tribe.

“Furthermore, the President complicates matters by being the Patron of Fulani herdsmen allegedly terrorizing Nigerians without deterring actions.

“So, it is a requisite step to be fulfilled to merit the approval of the separation of the Yoruba nation from Nigeria”.

‘Political bargain’

Meanwhile, a member of the Yoruba self-determination group, Ilana Omo Oodua, IOO, which Akintoye also headed, who spoke to Sunday Vanguard in confidence, accused the history professor of trying to use the organisation as a political bargain.

She said: “After serving Buhari a notice that the Yoruba people want to exercise their rights to self-determination and justified it, Baba, in the same letter, is demanding for a negotiation meeting. Who does that?

“How do you request for negotiation from someone that is oppressing you and has an immense advantage over you in terms of power, arms, sovereignty, money and everything?

“What does Professor Akintoye have outside five million online petitions that warrant him to demand for a negotiation or worthy of being negotiated with outside his media noise?

“Buhari should be the one to reach out to us for negotiation, not Akintoye asking for a negotiation.

“What Akintoye did was against the run of play. When Ambassador Buratai visited Sunday Igboho in Benin prison for negotiation, he did not write the Nigerian government for negotiation, they came and Igboho turned them down. That is what is called a fighter and activist”.

‘Letter unnecessary’

Meanwhile, a political analyst, Hon Ayo Fadaka, said the letter by Akintoye to Buhari was unnecessary.

“Akintoye heads an organisation that assumes it has the responsibility to speak for the Yoruba people even when such mandate has not been given to it”, Fadaka stated.

“He is not the only one in that classification as there are many others too who equally claim to be fighting for our liberation.

“The letter was unnecessary because, for a President with Buhari’s mindset, it is just an exercise in futility. The letter, with its content, drive and desire, remains a mere exercise in futility.”

‘Self-serving’

Also, the Ondo State Chairman of the Social Democratic Party, SDP, Stephen Adewale, said, “The fact that almost all of the leaders who have promoted such agitation have resorted to running away when the going gets tough is one of the contributing elements to the failure.

“When the circumstance occurs, all activists give up on the cause.

“This further demonstrates the self-serving motive of these ethnic leaders, especially those who are currently leading the Yoruba agitation.

“History has demonstrated that there is no guarantee that the citizens of Yoruba or any other ethnic nationalities in the country will be better off under a separate nation.

“The same leadership crisis that bedevils Nigeria will definitely assail the so-called new nation.

“The solution to the country’s problem, therefore, is to ensure that we all do the right thing in 2023 by voting for the right candidates that have what it takes to take the country out of the woods.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/s-west-secession-letter-to-buhari-divides-yoruba-leaders/

Rubbish!!
Because They have seen Tinubu can't win the elections and the north is fully behind Atiku. That's why they want to use secessional threats to get people to vote for Tinubu. When shekarau went to PDP It really affected them. When Kawankaso said is not steeping down for Tinubu, it weakened their chances even more and hence the north bloc votes can't go to APC. They tried Tribalism and it did not work. Secession will not work either!.
This elections will be very sweet.
OBI will definitely give them sleepless nights and unending pain coupled with agonising grief and they will know that OBIDIENCE IS better than TINUBULATED sacrifices.
#Come-Out-To-Vote.
Signed: Ifeoluwa osho
A concerned SOUTH WEST youth and Christian

NaijaRoyalty:
What makes you different from IPob?

Nigeria is one and will not divide

Support Peter Obi for a better Nigeria for all

Nigeria is one? Since when?

ImperialYoruba:
I admire Prof Akintoye, that's a brilliant step to take. While we process through partisan politics and remain solidly behind Tinubu and APC, we still have the right to demand for and uphold justice for our contributions to Nigeria in terms of returns & privileges. We feel cheated, and we must correct that.

Hipocrite! What's brilliant about the letter? When kanu was saying same you saw him as an enemy of the state. You guys have produced a president (Twice) the current VP and Speaker are your tribesmen have contributed in one way or the other to this present mess we are in. With all you have benefitted from Nigeria, you have no moral ground to demand for secession. You guys are going nowhere we all stay put here to salvage it.

SWATMan:
Hipocrite! What's brilliant about the letter? When kanu was saying same you saw him as an enemy of the state. You guys have produced a president (Twice) the current VP and Speaker are your tribesmen have contributed in one way or the other to this present mess we are in. With all you have benefitted from Nigeria, you have no moral ground to demand for secession. You guys are going nowhere we all stay put here to salvage it.

Kanu said things ibo was hearing for the first time. None of his sayings is new to us in Yorubaland.

Stop complaining about our service to the nation. We feed the nation, we protect the nation, we prosper the nation, we have right to demand rulership of the nation.

ImperialYoruba:

Kanu said things ibo was hearing for the first time. None of his sayings is new to us in Yorubaland.

Stop complaining about our service to the nation. We feed the nation, we protect the nation, we prosper the nation, we have right to demand rulership of the nation.

This is pure lies. If you knew all along, how come Pa Akintoye's letter dwelth mostly on recent events like the inability to go to the farm as one of the reasons for the agitation? And how so you think that Buhari would listen to him and his fellow secessionist co- travelers?