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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by monerozi5590: 3:12pm On Sep 09, 2022
nihilistjnr:
I was hoping she would posted the same vitriol about Ojukwu who was just as complicit in the genocide she was talking about, only to come back and contest for presidency of the country he fought to secede from leading 3 million people to their death in the process. And who's wife is a 2 time ambassador for the country her husband fought a civil war against

Wokism is a disease.
Lol. Wokism na big disease no be lie.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Havertz10: 3:27pm On Sep 09, 2022
A40:
Lmao. That broad is only hustling clout. If you think she gives a damn about this discussion about colonialism you're very naive

Nobody cares about what she does with her body or who she fvcks. No man will cope with a nasty woman like that anyway so she's doing men a favor.

She's merely a mouthpiece for the Woke agenda and anytime she yarns nonsense she has to collect

She didn't do her homework else she would know that her fellow Africans were also selling their people into slavery amongst other atrocities.

If we check now. This woman will be a fan of Obama and Clinton like those ones hands are clean
I have contextual knowledge on colonialism, nobody is pushing surface narratives here, we are only pointing out that people benefited from that system and those same people created structures that enforce and evolve institutional racism today

I didnt know prof Anya prior to yesterday, I only talked about her personal life because most of you left the message and went after the messenger, as far as i am concerned irrespective of her bias, her resentment on this subject is justified, and such line of thoughts shouldn’t be shunned but embraced

Racism is far more than the people that stupidity sold their own brothers but the pigs that took advantage their situations and used it to enslave human beings, reducing such a monumental event to merely who did what is truly sad

American government took the rights of Japanese Americans for a few months and reparations were paid to them

Hundreds of millions were enslaved for centuries and somehow, they should let the past be, and we aren’t talking about just the slaves that were bought but his or her descendants

As if that wasn’t enough, you burdened them with loans and actively undermine their progress

Western countries practice QE but global south nations are encouraged to embrace austerity
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 4:16pm On Sep 09, 2022
Havertz10:
I have contextual knowledge on colonialism, nobody is pushing surface narratives here, we are only pointing out that people benefited from that system and those same people created structures that enforce and evolve institutional racism today

I didnt know prof Anya prior to yesterday, I only talked about her personal life because most of you left the message and went after the messenger, as far as i am concerned irrespective of her bias, her resentment on this subject is justified, and such line of thoughts shouldn’t be shunned but embraced

Racism is far more than the people that stupidity sold their own brothers but the pigs that took advantage their situations and used it to enslave human beings, reducing such a monumental event to merely who did what is truly sad

American government took the rights of Japanese Americans for a few months and reparations were paid to them

Hundreds of millions were enslaved for centuries and somehow, they should let the past be, and we aren’t talking about just the slaves that were bought but his or her descendants

As if that wasn’t enough, you burdened them with loans and actively undermine their progress

Western countries practice QE but global south nations are encouraged to embrace austerity
The original context of discussion was what Anya said about the Queen.
Anya was talking about Britain's involvement in the Biafran war and blaming the Queen squarely for that unfortunate event.
Her take, although asinine, has some tenuous links to reality, in that the Queen was the constitutional head of state of a country that provided aid to the Federal Government during the war.

Your take here however, has no grounding within the original context. Slavery in the UK for example was never legal. As early as 1562 Slavery was established as illegal under English Common Law. The vast majority of slave trade related actions happened OUTSIDE the United Kingdom in the middle passage of the Transatlantic Trade -and Britain played a huge part in ending the transatlantic slave trade - almost singlehandedly sef.

You could argue that the British Mercantile Class profited handsomely from selling human chattel, and you could argue that the profits of of the Slave trade found its way back to the UK, but what does that have to do with the Queen - and more specifically, THIS Queen?

How is it that we're going after the Queen of a country where slavery has been illegal for 600 years, instead of the various kings of Nigeria that practiced slave trade aggressively for centuries until that same Britain literally had to use violence to force them to stop

Even after Transatlantic slave trade had ENDED, slavery was still BOOMING in Northern Nigeria. Before you start calling out 'Institutional Racism' that doesn't affect 99.9% of Nigerians living in Nigeria, why are you not worrying about the descendants of the millions of slaves that constituted up to HALF the population of a Nigerian Caliphate?

Slavery remained a large part of the economy, although its operation had changed with the end of the Atlantic slave trade. Slaves were gained through raiding and via markets as had operated earlier in West Africa.

The founder of the Caliphate allowed slavery only for non-Muslims; slavery was viewed as a process to bring such peoples into the Muslim community. Around half of the Caliphate's population was enslaved in the 19th century.There was a huge expansion of slaves due to the jihad campaigns, frontier wars and slave raids.

The expansion of agricultural plantations under the Caliphate was dependent on slave labor. These plantations were established around the ribats, and large areas of agricultural production took place around the cities of the empire. The institution of slavery was mediated by the lack of a racial barrier among the peoples, and by a complex and varying set of relations between owners and slaves, which included the right to accumulate property by working on their own plots, manumission, and the potential for slaves to convert and become members of the Islamic community.

There are historical records of slaves reaching high levels of government and administration in the Sokoto Caliphate
It doesnt sound as woke, does it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 4:27pm On Sep 09, 2022
Havertz10:
I have contextual knowledge on colonialism, nobody is pushing surface narratives here, we are only pointing out that people benefited from that system and those same people created structures that enforce and evolve institutional racism today

I didnt know prof Anya prior to yesterday, I only talked about her personal life because most of you left the message and went after the messenger, as far as i am concerned irrespective of her bias, her resentment on this subject is justified, and such line of thoughts shouldn’t be shunned but embraced

Racism is far more than the people that stupidity sold their own brothers but the pigs that took advantage their situations and used it to enslave human beings, reducing such a monumental event to merely who did what is truly sad
I'm saying too that if we're going to tell stories let's tell the entire stories not half in half narratives. You can't be whining about colonialism when your own house is not in order. At some point you must also hold yourself accountable to the level you're trying to hold your erstwhile colonialists

Don't conflate colonialism and racial issues. Our own problem no get anything do with racism and if you're in doubt wait till you have issues with FBAs. That's when they will put you in your place.

I have no care and concern for identity politics. Na wetin women dey face now wey dem dey follow Tran Dan and Bikini Bob share private and competitive spaces


Havertz10:
American government took the rights of Japanese Americans for a few months and reparations were paid to them

Hundreds of millions were enslaved for centuries and somehow, they should let the past be, and we aren’t talking about just the slaves that were bought but his or her descendants

As if that wasn’t enough, you burdened them with loans and actively undermine their progress

Western countries practice QE but global south nations are encouraged to embrace austerity
Are you comparing reparations of War? Aren't the Japanese owing reparations as well to the entire South East Asia

Hundreds of millions were enslaved by who? You need to drill down these things and stop jumbling them all up. I already told you that our ancestors were also complicit in this trade.

I can't speak for the rest of Africa but I can speak for Nigeria. Our misuse of our resources is what led us in this mess not no foreign loans or interference.

The British empire is not the reason why we had clueless leaders that have squandered our oil boom and led us indebted to financial organizations around the world
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 4:46pm On Sep 09, 2022
A40:
I'm saying too that if we're going to tell stories let's tell the entire stories not half in half narratives.

You can't be whining about colonialism when your own house is not in order. At some point you must also hold yourself accountable to the level you're trying to hold your erstwhile colonialists
This is literally the end of discussion.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 4:56pm On Sep 09, 2022
nihilistjnr:
The original context of discussion was what Anya said about the Queen.
Anya was talking about Britain's involvement in the Biafran war and blaming the Queen squarely for that unfortunate event.
Her take, although asinine, has some tenuous links to reality, in that the Queen was the constitutional head of state of a country that provided aid to the Federal Government during the war.

Your take here however, has no grounding within the original context. Slavery in the UK for example was never legal. As early as 1562 Slavery was established as illegal under English Common Law. The vast majority of slave trade related actions happened OUTSIDE the United Kingdom in the middle passage of the Transatlantic Trade -and Britain played a huge part in ending the transatlantic slave trade - almost singlehandedly sef.

You could argue that the British Mercantile Class profited handsomely from selling human chattel, and you could argue that the profits of of the Slave trade found its way back to the UK, but what does that have to do with the Queen - and more specifically, THIS Queen?

How is it that we're going after the Queen of a country where slavery has been illegal for 600 years, instead of the various kings of Nigeria that practiced slave trade aggressively for centuries until that same Britain literally had to use violence to force them to stop

Even after Transatlantic slave trade had ENDED, slavery was still BOOMING in Northern Nigeria. Before you start calling out 'Institutional Racism' that doesn't affect 99.9% of Nigerians living in Nigeria, why are you not worrying about the descendants of the millions of slaves that constituted up to HALF the population of a Nigerian Caliphate?



It doesnt sound as woke, does it?
What is funny is majority of the genocide pertaining to her ancestors were and couldn't possibly have been perpetrated by the Brits. This is what happens when you activist to activist.

They have no clue what they stand for and what they are fighting against

That's how another joker. A Nigerian man Freemason came out and said he would never take the side of a colonizing institution. Sometimes I think these guys are robots or something
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 5:11pm On Sep 09, 2022
A40:
What is funny is majority of the genocide pertaining to her ancestors were and couldn't possibly have been perpetrated by the Brits. This is what happens when you activist to activist.

They have no clue what they stand for and what they are fighting against

That's how another joker. A Nigerian man Freemason came out and said he would never take the side of a colonizing institution. Sometimes I think these guys are robots or something
They are populist. They follow whatever narrative they feel the public want to hear whether its fact based or not.

You will be surprised that most of the people joining the crusade have no idea what the crusade is all about but they will be at the forefront chanting war songs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:20pm On Sep 09, 2022
How did David Silva fare against Man United yesterday?


Asking for a friend.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by PDPGuy: 5:32pm On Sep 09, 2022
A40:
They are clowns just chasing clout. Literally they were the ones that came here to stop slave trade.

If you check now that ignorant broad will not say anything when Yakubu Gowon dies. Why? Cause that will not give her the same notoriety and fame slandering Queen will give her.

These people are hypocrites and have no code. They're the same people shouting free Britney Griner in Russia meanwhile their own VP was throwing people in jail for the same offense and they have never spoken about it.
When Yakubu Gowon dies, I will appropriately call him a war criminal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 5:40pm On Sep 09, 2022
PDPGuy:
When Yakubu Gowon dies, I will appropriately call him a war criminal
You will be right. But don't be surprised these people you're seeing visibly shouting now will be quiet on that day.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:42pm On Sep 09, 2022
popizaino:
How did David Silva fare against Man United yesterday?


Asking for a friend.
He was just average in ystdy game. Very very average. But I'm not holding anything against him cos he's already paid his dues and deserves to be average.


Meanwhile, it's being long we heard any coutinho alert. Wataguan?? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 5:43pm On Sep 09, 2022
Jodera:
He was just average in ystdy game. Very very average. But I'm not holding anything against him cos he's already paid his dues and deserves to be average.


Meanwhile, it's being long we heard any coutinho alert. Wataguan?? grin
These days na for Villa bench Coutinho alert dey come from,
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 5:45pm On Sep 09, 2022
larride:
They are populist. They follow whatever narrative they feel the public want to hear whether its fact based or not.

You will be surprised that most of the people joining the crusade have no idea what the crusade is all about but they will be at the forefront chanting war songs.
Not populist. More like Woke propagandists that don't self evaluate before pointing fingers at other people

They gatekeep cancel culture but cry when they're pointed the same gun

If you dish you should be able to take. Not cry sexism, racism, misogyny and other woke boner words when people call out your nonsense
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:46pm On Sep 09, 2022
raumdeuter:
These days na for Villa bench Coutinho alert dey come from,
Lol, the way Popi silent for this coutinho matter after his first 2 matches last season, I no come dey understand. Person go think say him no dey Aston Villa again grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:55pm On Sep 09, 2022
Jodera:
He was just average in ystdy game. Very very average. But I'm not holding anything against him cos he's already paid his dues and deserves to be average.


Meanwhile, it's being long we heard any coutinho alert. Wataguan?? grin
Coutinho like most Brazilians will not want to give it all playing for mid table clubs especially after a successful sojourn with top clubs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 6:02pm On Sep 09, 2022
popizaino:
Coutinho like most Brazilians will not want to give it all playing for mid table clubs especially after a successful sojourn with top clubs.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 6:08pm On Sep 09, 2022
popizaino:
Coutinho like most Brazilians will not want to give it all playing for mid table clubs especially after a successful sojourn with top clubs.
How did he perform at top clubs like Barcelona and Bayern that they were chasing him with stones all over
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:17pm On Sep 09, 2022
popizaino:
Coutinho like most Brazilians will not want to give it all playing for mid table clubs especially after a successful sojourn with top clubs.
Lol, excuses excuses excuses!! grin

You didn't remember this and you didn't become cautious after his first 2 matches of last season. It's now you remember his a Brazilian and Aston Villa are a mid table team!!

Weh done Sir!! grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 6:22pm On Sep 09, 2022
[color=royalblue]So the Irish people are saying horrible stuffs too.

I'm here to read comments anyway[/color]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by rooftops: 6:23pm On Sep 09, 2022
popizaino:
Coutinho like most Brazilians will not want to give it all playing for mid table clubs especially after a successful sojourn with top clubs.
You were championing for clubs to sign a player who won't give his all again. Omo this excuse no be here grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:28pm On Sep 09, 2022
raumdeuter:
How did he perform at top clubs like Barcelona and Bayern that they were chasing him with stones all over
grin grin grin

Of all top clubs he went to sef, na only Liverpool him shine (from inter to Bayern).
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:30pm On Sep 09, 2022
rooftops:
You were championing for clubs to sign a player who won't give his all again. Omo this excuse no be here grin
You don see am na grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by PDPGuy: 6:40pm On Sep 09, 2022
It is extreme i.diocy to postpone football matches to “honor” a dead person.

A simple minute of silence would have sufficed!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 6:51pm On Sep 09, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So the Irish people are saying horrible stuffs too.

I'm here to read comments anyway[/color]
Theres a reason why there's Ireland and Northern Ireland.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 6:52pm On Sep 09, 2022
PDPGuy:
It is extreme i.diocy to postpone football matches to “honor” a dead person.

A simple minute of silence would have sufficed!!
The dead person just happen to be the longest serving monarch in their history.

I don't think it's right for you to call it idiocy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by PDPGuy: 7:00pm On Sep 09, 2022
larride:
The dead person just happen to be the longest serving monarch in their history.

I don't think it's right for you to call it idiocy.
Nah
Regardless of whether the person was their longest or shortest serving head of state, there was no need to postpone games
Anyway, na the PL headache in finding space in an already congested fixture schedule
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 7:14pm On Sep 09, 2022
larride:
Theres a reason why there's Ireland and Northern Ireland.
[color=royalblue]Yeah

One would have thought it also just Wokeism that started that, but it's no news that people have always hated the monarchy and blamed them for their past.

Give it a week, and we would graduate from a bitter feminist to debating if they did what they did.

[/color]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Amoto94(m): 7:19pm On Sep 09, 2022
Mainz sporting director Christian Heidel: "With Thomas (Tuchel) it came out of the blue. The sacking is grist to the mill of those who are against investors in football. It was purely an investor’s decision. Someone who has no idea about football probably thought that sixth place wasn’t good enough for him and said: 'Then let’s try another coach. After only six games, I can’t think of any other reason. But Chelsea will bitterly regret this decision – they won’t get such a good coach again so quickly."
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sniper04(m): 7:22pm On Sep 09, 2022
Amoto94:
Mainz sporting director Christian Heidel: "With Thomas (Tuchel) it came out of the blue. The sacking is grist to the mill of those who are against investors in football. It was purely an investor’s decision. Someone who has no idea about football probably thought that sixth place wasn’t good enough for him and said: 'Then let’s try another coach. After only six games, I can’t think of any other reason. But Chelsea will bitterly regret this decision – they won’t get such a good coach again so quickly."
Ode, employ am for your club nq
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Havertz10: 7:26pm On Sep 09, 2022
A40:
I'm saying too that if we're going to tell stories let's tell the entire stories not half in half narratives. You can't be whining about colonialism when your own house is not in order. At some point you must also hold yourself accountable to the level you're trying to hold your erstwhile colonialists


Don't conflate colonialism and racial issues. Our own problem no get anything do with racism and if you're in doubt wait till you have issues with FBAs. That's when they will put you in your place.

I have no care and concern for identity politics. Na wetin women dey face now wey dem dey follow Tran Dan and Bikini Bob share private and competitive spaces



Are you comparing reparations of War? Aren't the Japanese owing reparations as well to the entire South East Asia

Hundreds of millions were enslaved by who? You need to drill down these things and stop jumbling them all up. I already told you that our ancestors were also complicit in this trade.

I can't speak for the rest of Africa but I can speak for Nigeria. Our misuse of our resources is what led us in this mess not no foreign loans or interference.

The British empire is not the reason why we had clueless leaders that have squandered our oil boom and led us indebted to financial organizations around the world
You fail to understand me, i’m more interested in the whole story, the reason i’m happy about prof Uju’s tweet is that her action has taken discuss on the subject mainstream, people from all parts of the world are sharing their thoughts on how vile western nations are, the reality here is that slavery never ended, look at guys today running to western nations looking for a good life, it’s slavery all over again, only that this time they need educated slaves with the means, it’s still the same thing, your only crime was to fall into the wrong gene pool and certain people will forever dominate you, it’s a statement of fact, irrespective of your location

When we talk about institutional racism it supersedes any effort that African nations can make, the entire system has to be changed, that’s the angle i’m coming at this from, it’s far more than colonialism, the omnipresent shadow nature of racism in our world today isn’t talked about enough, everything feeds of the ideology that i’m better than the next man because I possess certain random features that are prioritized over morality or equity

Agreed Nobody is innocent here broadly, but certain people have been fooling others for centuries into believing that the game is fair and the problem is solely theirs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Havertz10: 7:30pm On Sep 09, 2022
A40

About the Japanese, it wasn’t because of the damage caused by the war, Americans were paranoid that American citizens with Japanese heritage could betray them during the war with Japan, so they rounded all of them up and locked them up in camps, it was after the war that they were released and reparations discussed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ballzproblem2: 7:37pm On Sep 09, 2022
blah blah blah queen of England ,blah blah blah slavery this and that, OMG ,who cares? mtcheww, face the fact upon all the stealing, looting and other atrocities she lived a wonderful and long life, so wishing her bad things at this point is useless.


meanwhile Joe Cole should STFU!

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