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Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 5:36pm On Sep 20, 2022
China continues to build inhumane "quarantine camps" at a rapid pace throughout the country.

This one is said to be located in Sichuan Province and can imprison up to 30,000 people.

Re: Gov. by Alamkir: 5:45pm On Sep 20, 2022
Tomorrow, at the meeting of the UN General Assembly in New York, Biden will allegedly present a proposal to exclude Russia from the UN.
Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 5:57pm On Sep 20, 2022
joyandfaith:
Very good analysis. However about 190k troops invaded Ukraine across borders. Donbas is a major issue. Status of Crimea would be addressed diplomatically.
190k troops will not be enough. Russian needs minimum of 500k troops to conquer Ukraine. 150k troops should be enough to take the capital. 250k troops to take on Donbas/Kharkiv, mainly because the main bulk of the Ukraine military was stationed in Donbas before the war. These soldiers were trained by the West. The remaining 100k can be deploy to the South to take Kherson, Odessa e.t.c.

In addition, Russia needs minimum of 150k troops in reserve. So in total 700k troops will do.

But the problem even the US will struggle to raise 700k troop with/without its allies. Let alone Russia.
Re: Gov. by Alamkir: 5:57pm On Sep 20, 2022
The United States of America invites India and other countries to privately, if they wish, encourage Russia to end its special operation in Ukraine, the White House announced.
Re: Gov. by Alamkir: 6:00pm On Sep 20, 2022
Referendums in Donbas won't affect US support for Ukraine - Pentagon.

Putin is playing chess while Biden is playing Ludo. E just dey start
Re: Gov. by Alamkir: 6:03pm On Sep 20, 2022
Referendums in Donbas will not have legal consequences, the whole process is a parody

We will keep supplying weapons to Kiev -Macron

Russia will take back her people and land just as she will keep destroying your puny weapons.
Re: Gov. by Enugurangers: 6:06pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
190k troops will not be enough. Russian needs minimum of 500k troops to conquer Ukraine. 150k troops should be enough to take the capital. 250k troops to take on Donbas/Kharkiv, mainly because the main bulk of the Ukraine military was stationed in Donbas before the war. These soldiers were trained by the West. The remaining 100k can be deploy to the South to take Kherson, Odessa e.t.c.

In addition, Russia needs minimum of 150k troops in reserve. So in total 700k troops will do.

But the problem even the US will struggle to raise 700k troop with/without its allies. Let alone Russia.
Truth be told, the invasion was poorly planned. I think Russia's Intelligence underestimated Ukraine's will to defend its territories.
Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 6:07pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
Russia was a superpower before the war and will still be a superpower during and after the war. Apart from the US no other super power has the capacity to invade Ukraine the way Russia did. The UK & France won't dare do what Russia is doing now, whether or not they share border with Ukraine. They don't have the capacity. NATO can do it but not individual countries under NATO.

The US used about 160k troops to capture Baghdad. Russia used 30k troops, which entered Ukraine through Belarus. Iraq did not have the robust air force and air defense systems Ukraine had. Don't forget that Ukraine produce and export SU-27 engine & parts. They also produce defense systems and ballistic missiles. Iraq was no where near Ukrainian military strength.

The Russian intelligence team failed Putin. Putin thought the Russian troops will be accepted the same way, they were accepted in Crimea. They were counting on the Pro Russians.

Putin had no intention of capturing Kiev. You can't do that with 30k troops anyway. All he wanted to do is to send troops to Donbas with the hope that his troops will be accepted the way they were accepted in Crimea in 2014 and to use his 30k troops to harass and put pressure on Zelensky to surrender.

The Russians became clueless after the failed attempt to scare Zelensky into surrendering.

Now Putin is stuck. He does not want to be fully committed to the war. He knows that the West is looking for the opportunity to degrade Russian military drastically. So he is trying to avoid committing Russian troops and equipments extensively to the war. This is why he relied so much on volunteers, Chenchens, Wagner, LPR, DPR, Syrians e.t.c.

The Russian troops that attacked Kiev are still in Belarus and the ones that attacked Kharkov have been moved to the border btw Ukraine and Russia. Although, some Russian soldiers are still involved. About 30% of the total invasion force are been used in the war currently.

Russia will continue the war as long as the Russian troops are willing to fight. But the moment they get exhausted. Putin will have no choice than to negotiate. Because it will be difficult to get volunteers for this kind of war. But Ukraine should forget about Crimea. Crimea is gone forever. They can't take it back.
l love your analysis because you are not bias,not some useless cunts supporting any nonsense the west dishes out
Re: Gov. by jimetagambo: 6:09pm On Sep 20, 2022
Enugurangers:
Truth be told, the invasion was poorly planned. I think Russia's Intelligence underestimated Ukraine's will to defend its territories.
He is one of the very very few pro-putin here that has sense. He also doesn't argue with emotions like the other pro Putin cry babies (as if they are related to Putin).
Re: Gov. by BentizilL: 6:28pm On Sep 20, 2022
Enugurangers:
Truth be told, the invasion was poorly planned. I think Russia's Intelligence underestimated Ukraine's will to defend its territories.
Sincerely it's not about underestimating Ukraine will to defend it territories...
Russia underestimate the kind of support Ukraine will be getting...

Everything is leading to a point I don't want, the world is too fragile to survive another major war... The casualties and damages will be too extreme..
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 6:32pm On Sep 20, 2022
And the world is underestimating the probability of this war to go nuclear
Re: Gov. by sanpipita(m): 6:33pm On Sep 20, 2022
saxywale2:
State Duma approves longer jail terms for refusal to serve and surrender, lists "mobilization" as aggravating factor.

Russian lawmakers have adopted amendments to the Criminal Code, introducing longer jail terms – 10-15 years in prison – for surrender and looting.

The new law now lists mobilization, martial law and wartime as aggravating circumstances. These terms are new to Russia's Criminal Code.
Russians will get more than they bargained for, Putin is now even more frustrated
Re: Gov. by Enugurangers: 6:38pm On Sep 20, 2022
BentizilL:
Sincerely it's not about underestimating Ukraine will to defend it territories...
Russia underestimate the kind of support Ukraine will be getting...

Everything is leading to a point I don't want, the world is too fragile to survive another major war... The casualties and damages will be too extreme..
That too. Russian Intelligence failed to predict the amount of support that would pour in from Western countries; however, that is secondary.

The reason why I mentioned "Will" specifically was because it's the primary reason Ukraine is still standing.

The Afghan forces had NO will to fight despite the plenty ammunitions the USA gifted them, so the country collapsed to the hands of the Taliban.

The will of the Ukrainians is primary. I remember clearly that the USA offered Zekensky and his family assylum. The USA must have predicted that Ukarine would fall in a week or less - failed intelligence on the US side as well, but the short man (Zekensky) told them he needed weapons and was not running away.
Re: Gov. by Psych412(f): 6:44pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
190k troops will not be enough. Russian needs minimum of 500k troops to conquer Ukraine. 150k troops should be enough to take the capital. 250k troops to take on Donbas/Kharkiv, mainly because the main bulk of the Ukraine military was stationed in Donbas before the war. These soldiers were trained by the West. The remaining 100k can be deploy to the South to take Kherson, Odessa e.t.c.

In addition, Russia needs minimum of 150k troops in reserve. So in total 700k troops will do.

But the problem even the US will struggle to raise 700k troop with/without its allies. Let alone Russia.
Hitler didn't use such number of troops when invading the Soviet Union...
Re: Gov. by jimetagambo: 6:47pm On Sep 20, 2022
baralatie:
And the world is underestimating the probability of this war to go nuclear
My greatest fear. I think both parties at war with each other should come to some sort of compromise. As this war drags, the world economy suffers.
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 6:48pm On Sep 20, 2022
Psych412:
Hitler didn't use such number of troops when invading the Soviet Union...
For the campaign against the Soviet Union, the Germans allotted almost 150 divisions containing a total of about three million men. Among those units were 19 panzer divisions, and in total the Barbarossa force had about 3,000 tanks, 7,000 artillery pieces, and 2,500 aircraft.
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 6:48pm On Sep 20, 2022
jimetagambo:
My greatest fear. I think both parties at war with each other should come to some sort of compromise. As this war drags, the world economy suffers.
The compromise was minsk2 agreement
Someone decided otherwise
Now a compromise is tricky because a lot has happened
Re: Gov. by Psych412(f): 6:49pm On Sep 20, 2022
baralatie:
For the campaign against the Soviet Union, the Germans allotted almost 150 divisions containing a total of about three million men. Among those units were 19 panzer divisions, and in total the Barbarossa force had about 3,000 tanks, 7,000 artillery pieces, and 2,500 aircraft.
wow
Re: Gov. by haaryobhami: 6:57pm On Sep 20, 2022
jimetagambo:
He is one of the very very few pro-putin here that has sense. He also doesn't argue with emotions like the other pro Putin cry babies (as if they are related to Putin).
those other pootin fans are clowns,they think Russia are some superhuman that can’t be defeated
Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 6:59pm On Sep 20, 2022
Enugurangers:
Truth be told, the invasion was poorly planned. I think Russia's Intelligence underestimated Ukraine's will to defend its territories.
Russia had no plan to invade Ukraine. Ukraine was preparing for major offensive in Donbas & Putin needed to show maximum support for the pro-Russians. So Russia started building up troops to force Ukraine to abandon the offensive in Donbas and to negotiate (implement the Minsk agreement). But Ukraine was not ready for any negotiate because of the massive support, she was getting from the West. Ukraine & the West rejected all the Russian proposals. So Russia had no choice than to invade. So as not to appear weak. It was not planned. They just wanting to scare everybody with the show of force.
Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 7:12pm On Sep 20, 2022
Psych412:
Hitler didn't use such number of troops when invading the Soviet Union...
Lol! German used 3million troops to invade Russia.

Well, the US used 160k troops to captured the capital of Iraq alone. Iraqis military was very weak. Their forces were concentrated in the Capital unlike Ukraine. Ukraine has well trained & well equipped troops in almost all the major cities Donbas, Kharkiv, Mariupol, Odesa, e.t.c

So do the maths.
Re: Gov. by coke75: 8:39pm On Sep 20, 2022
ponyonm:
See this. Same thing we've been saying all along.
The AfD is a nazi party,
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 8:55pm On Sep 20, 2022
UPDATE - Putin's speech allegedly postponed until tomorrow, Kremlin pool reporters now say. Reason unknown.
Re: Gov. by ponyonm: 9:10pm On Sep 20, 2022
Uprightness100:
UPDATE - Putin's speech allegedly postponed until tomorrow, Kremlin pool reporters now say. Reason unknown.
Speech recorded but would be played when the far east is awake. Not sure what is happening. On the other hand, a revolution seems to be picking up in Iran.
Re: Gov. by coke75: 9:28pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
Well, the US used 160k troops to captured the capital of Iraq alone.
Wrong, about 30k troops participated in the battle of baghdad.
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 9:39pm On Sep 20, 2022
We're aware of reports that Putin may be preparing to mobilize - Biden's National Security aide Sullivan.

I keep telling the ukranazi pigs that Russia has not started, just Wait until they mobilize and start war
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 9:43pm On Sep 20, 2022
Russia invaded Ukraine with 200,000 troops.

I don't know where the number 30,000 is coming from. Maybe that's the number of troops killed.

Note that for every troop killed, another two are injured and taken out of action. That's why they have manpower issues.
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 9:51pm On Sep 20, 2022
Mobilisation usually occurs when a country is being invaded, not when it invades another. That show say water done pass garri for Russia. Imagine Nigeria mobilising to invade Sierra Leone and Liberia in 1994. Carrying your young citizens to go and die for your ego after receiving wrong intelligence

USA should greet the young men of Russia with 300km HIMARs this time. Una think say na only Putin dey play soft. USA is VEEEERY soft on Russia right now.
Re: Gov. by coke75: 9:53pm On Sep 20, 2022
iykofias:
We're aware of reports that Putin may be preparing to mobilize - Biden's National Security aide Sullivan.

I keep telling the ukranazi pigs that Russia has not started, just Wait until they mobilize and start war
Throwing badly trained conscripts into the meat grinder is definitely going to go well for russia.
Re: Gov. by haaryobhami: 9:57pm On Sep 20, 2022
iykofias:
We're aware of reports that Putin may be preparing to mobilize - Biden's National Security aide Sullivan.

I keep telling the ukranazi pigs that Russia has not started, just Wait until they mobilize and start war
that is more dead useless Russia soilders to be grinded by Russia meat grinder grin
Russia entered ukraine as Russia bear but now they are koala �
Re: Gov. by coke75: 9:58pm On Sep 20, 2022
Ibime:
Russia invaded Ukraine with 200,000 troops.

I don't know where the number 30,000 is coming from. Maybe that's the number of troops killed.

Note that for every troop killed, another two are injured and taken out of action. That's why they have manpower issues.
I was not talking about Ukraine, someone claimed the US deployed 160k troops in the battle of baghdad, which is obviously nonsense.
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 10:04pm On Sep 20, 2022
coke75:
I was not talking about Ukraine, someone claimed the US deployed 160k troops in the battle of baghdad, which is obviously nonsense.
I wasn't referring to you Sir but the guy who said Russia entered with 30. Death grants revealed inadvertently by their finance ministry is already more than 30
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