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Re: Gov. by ponyonm: 10:18pm On Sep 20, 2022
Ibime:
Mobilisation usually occurs when a country is being invaded, not when it invades another. That show say water done pass garri for Russia. Imagine Nigeria mobilising to invade Sierra Leone and Liberia in 1994. Carrying your young citizens to go and die for your ego after receiving wrong intelligence

USA should greet the young men of Russia with 300km HIMARs this time. Una think say na only Putin dey play soft. USA is VEEEERY soft on Russia right now.
People will be discussing on a topic, some of you will not calm down to read and even understand what is being said, before jumping in and posting rubbish.
Re: Gov. by ponyonm: 10:25pm On Sep 20, 2022
coke75:
Throwing badly trained conscripts into the meat grinder is definitely going to go well for russia.
Why do you think that they would mobilize conscripts and throw them in the battle? Russia has well trained reservists that are not even called up yet to war, you are talking about badly trained conscripts that have just been mobilized.
Re: Gov. by jimetagambo: 10:38pm On Sep 20, 2022
coke75:
Throwing badly trained conscripts into the meat grinder is definitely going to go well for russia.
Putin's response is to increase punishment for deserters.
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 10:46pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
190k troops will not be enough. Russian needs minimum of 500k troops to conquer Ukraine. 150k troops should be enough to take the capital. 250k troops to take on Donbas/Kharkiv, mainly because the main bulk of the Ukraine military was stationed in Donbas before the war. These soldiers were trained by the West. The remaining 100k can be deploy to the South to take Kherson, Odessa e.t.c.

In addition, Russia needs minimum of 150k troops in reserve. So in total 700k troops will do.

But the problem even the US will struggle to raise 700k troop with/without its allies. Let alone Russia.
nato already plans to deploy 300k battle ready troops in Europe already which should be fulfilled before the year ends
Re: Gov. by coke75: 10:47pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
Russia was a superpower before the war and will still be a superpower during and after the war.
Wrong. The only clear superpower after the fall of the Soviet Union is the US. Second in line is China.

olugabbie:
Apart from the US no other super power has the capacity to invade Ukraine the way Russia did. The UK & France won't dare do what Russia is doing now, whether or not they share border with Ukraine. They don't have the capacity. NATO can do it but not individual countries under NATO.
UK & France are not imperialistic dictatorships, but they have way more capacities than russia.

olugabbie:
The US used about 160k troops to capture Baghdad.
Wrong. They used 30k.

olugabbie:
Putin had no intention of capturing Kiev. You can't do that with 30k troops anyway. All he wanted to do is to send troops to Donbas with the hope that his troops will be accepted the way they were accepted in Crimea in 2014 and to use his 30k troops to harass and put pressure on Zelensky to surrender.
Of course he wanted to capture Kyiv. grin

olugabbie:
The Russians became clueless after the failed attempt to scare Zelensky into surrendering.
Zelenskyy couldn't even surrender if he wanted to. Ukrainians would never accept it.

olugabbie:
Now Putin is stuck. He does not want to be fully committed to the war. He knows that the West is looking for the opportunity to degrade Russian military drastically. So he is trying to avoid committing Russian troops and equipments extensively to the war. This is why he relied so much on volunteers, Chenchens, Wagner, LPR, DPR, Syrians e.t.c.
This is absolute and verifiably nonsense. He's commited literally all elite troops russia has.

olugabbie:
The Russian troops that attacked Kiev are still in Belarus and the ones that attacked Kharkov have been moved to the border btw Ukraine and Russia. Although, some Russian soldiers are still involved.
Wrong. Most of those troops were deployed around Izium.

olugabbie:
About 30% of the total invasion force are been used in the war currently.
Keep dreaming.
Re: Gov. by Ibrahimcoomasie: 10:48pm On Sep 20, 2022
Dozhd: Russia transfers conscripts from Leningrad Oblast to Ukrainian border.

Dozhd, a Russian TV channel, reported that conscripts of the 25th Motorized Rifle Brigade based in Leningrad Oblast are being transferred to the town of Valuyki in Belgorod Oblast.
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 10:49pm On Sep 20, 2022
leobergy:
l love your analysis because you are not bias,not some useless cunts supporting any nonsense the west dishes out
sincerely you're the cunt Russia is having logistic problem in their own backyard, they're even using train and jeep suvs to move troops... una go just come out dey analyze rubbish from One deep hole in Nigeria
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 10:53pm On Sep 20, 2022
olugabbie:
Russia was a superpower before the war and will still be a superpower during and after the war. Apart from the US no other super power has the capacity to invade Ukraine the way Russia did. The UK & France won't dare do what Russia is doing now, whether or not they share border with Ukraine. They don't have the capacity. NATO can do it but not individual countries under NATO.

The US used about 160k troops to capture Baghdad. Russia used 30k troops, which entered Ukraine through Belarus. Iraq did not have the robust air force and air defense systems Ukraine had. Don't forget that Ukraine produce and export SU-27 engine & parts. They also produce defense systems and ballistic missiles. Iraq was no where near Ukrainian military strength.

The Russian intelligence team failed Putin. Putin thought the Russian troops will be accepted the same way, they were accepted in Crimea. They were counting on the Pro Russians.

Putin had no intention of capturing Kiev. You can't do that with 30k troops anyway. All he wanted to do is to send troops to Donbas with the hope that his troops will be accepted the way they were accepted in Crimea in 2014 and to use his 30k troops to harass and put pressure on Zelensky to surrender.

The Russians became clueless after the failed attempt to scare Zelensky into surrendering.

Now Putin is stuck. He does not want to be fully committed to the war. He knows that the West is looking for the opportunity to degrade Russian military drastically. So he is trying to avoid committing Russian troops and equipments extensively to the war. This is why he relied so much on volunteers, Chenchens, Wagner, LPR, DPR, Syrians e.t.c.

The Russian troops that attacked Kiev are still in Belarus and the ones that attacked Kharkov have been moved to the border btw Ukraine and Russia. Although, some Russian soldiers are still involved. About 30% of the total invasion force are been used in the war currently.

Russia will continue the war as long as the Russian troops are willing to fight. But the moment they get exhausted. Putin will have no choice than to negotiate. Because it will be difficult to get volunteers for this kind of war. But Ukraine should forget about Crimea. Crimea is gone forever. They can't take it back.
how many usa troops died from the invasion compared to Russia.... make una continue agenda
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 10:59pm On Sep 20, 2022
Ibime:
Russia invaded Ukraine with 200,000 troops.

I don't know where the number 30,000 is coming from. Maybe that's the number of troops killed.

Note that for every troop killed, another two are injured and taken out of action. That's why they have manpower issues.
add pow too cos Russian pow full telegram grin for every 1 pow captured another is probably killed
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:03pm On Sep 20, 2022
ponyonm:
Well, he isn't. We've been seeing lots of dead and wounded people as a result of Ukraine shelling separatists held regions and these news don't even make it to the mainstream media. It ends on the channels on Telegram we see them even though there are videos and pictures. On the other hand, everything in favor of Ukraine is splashed on our TV screens.
But you love Russia where everything media outlet is controlled by the govt cheesy
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:04pm On Sep 20, 2022
saxywale2:
Time for Putin lovers to find their way to Russia. They need to grow their army.

Russian parliament simplifies citizenship acquisition on foreigners serving in Russia's military.

Russian lawmakers on Sept. 20 passed a bill to make it quicker for foreigners serving in the Russian army to obtain citizenship.

The simplified procedure is now available for foreign citizens who sign a one-year contract with the Russian military. Before, they had to serve for three years to be eligible for it.
its not even world war yet oo.... Russia will recruit numbers and train them poorly
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:08pm On Sep 20, 2022
jimetagambo:
If this escalates, average Belarusians will be wishing they do not get involved.
if it was usa Belarus would have been attacked considering Russia has launched several iskander from Belarus
Re: Gov. by haaryobhami: 11:10pm On Sep 20, 2022
Segun2222:
But you love Russia where everything media outlet is controlled by the govt cheesy
they believe Russia stated controlled media but will shout fake and west propaganda to everynews from independent media from d west
Re: Gov. by okeysoninv: 11:14pm On Sep 20, 2022
I don't pity all these retard Putards here in Nairaland. Most of them are arm chair analyst. my condolences goes to my countrymen and women still living in that hell called Russia that don't know what is in stock for them. putard the bastard is about the cut off population of Russians.
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:17pm On Sep 20, 2022
BentizilL:
Timely message kiss
see illiterate go research the meaning of nuclear powered
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 11:21pm On Sep 20, 2022
According to sources in Russia, the speech has already been recorded and will be broadcast in the morning.
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:23pm On Sep 20, 2022
Dalil8:
grin grin

Russia na ur mate. Energy midgets dey sanction energy giant.
olodo price cap is €2500
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 11:39pm On Sep 20, 2022
Jake Sullivan, the American national security adviser, says this evening that "the US has intelligence that Russia is likely to order additional recruitment measures" following Ukraine's achievements in the counterattack”.
Re: Gov. by Dalil8: 11:48pm On Sep 20, 2022
coke75:
Wrong, about 30k troops participated in the battle of baghdad.
Against 45k Iraq troops in baghdad. What's the big deal?

You make it seem like it's 30k against 100k troops lol
Re: Gov. by coke75: 11:53pm On Sep 20, 2022
This is the entire russian army structure. Now, I've marked every army participating in Ukraine with red. Have a look. You can clearly see that russia has massive capabilities left!! Believe me! Any day now!


Western Military District
1st Guards Tank Army
6th Combined Arms Army
20th Guards Combined Arms Army
11th Army Corps

Southern Military District
8th Guards Combined Arms Army
49th Combined Arms Army
58th Combined Arms Army
22nd Army Corps

Central Military District
2nd Guards Tank Army
41st Combined Arms Army

Eastern Military District
5th Combined Arms Army
29th Combined Arms Army
35th Combined Arms Army
36th Combined Arms Army
68th Army Corps

Northern Military District
14th Army Corps
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 12:05am On Sep 21, 2022
Canada just dropped the vaccine mandate in order to enter the country starting from September 30th.
Re: Gov. by okeysoninv: 12:14am On Sep 21, 2022
coke75:
This is the entire russian army structure. Now, I've marked every army participating in Ukraine with red. Have a look. You can clearly see that russia has massive capabilities left!! Believe me! Any day now!


Western Military District
1st Guards Tank Army
6th Combined Arms Army
20th Guards Combined Arms Army
11th Army Corps

Southern Military District
8th Guards Combined Arms Army
49th Combined Arms Army
58th Combined Arms Army
22nd Army Corps

Central Military District
2nd Guards Tank Army
41st Combined Arms Army

Eastern Military District
5th Combined Arms Army
29th Combined Arms Army
35th Combined Arms Army
36th Combined Arms Army
68th Army Corps

Northern Military District
14th Army Corps
ist guard tank army which was formed and designated to tackle NATO was beaten red and black in Kyiv. Now , they have been downgraded they don't have capacity to defend Moscow. Russia is finished spiritually and physically.
Re: Gov. by Ibrahimcoomasie: 12:36am On Sep 21, 2022
Google data: RUSSIANS consider FLEEing the country as possible mobilization looms.

According to Google Trends, the search for fleeing the country became highly popular in Russia after the Kremlin and its proxies announced plans to annex occupied territories in Ukraine.

The annexation plans also coincided with speculation that mobilization will be announced following the Russian parliament's adoption of tighter penalties for deserters during mobilization. Putin is expected to make a statement about these issues on Sept. 21.
Re: Gov. by Enugurangers: 12:48am On Sep 21, 2022
Ibrahimcoomasie:
Google data: RUSSIANS consider FLEEing the country as possible mobilization looms.

According to Google Trends, the search for fleeing the country became highly popular in Russia after the Kremlin and its proxies announced plans to annex occupied territories in Ukraine.

The annexation plans also coincided with speculation that mobilization will be announced following the Russian parliament's adoption of tighter penalties for deserters during mobilization. Putin is expected to make a statement about these issues on Sept. 21.
Russian men do not want to go to the meat grinder, which is now what Ukraine has become for those who seek to do her harm. If the Russian men desert and get caught, they might just get shot by their superiors instead of transporting them to Siberia for their 15 years jail term.
Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 1:27am On Sep 21, 2022
Segun2222:
sincerely you're the cunt Russia is having logistic problem in their own backyard, they're even using train and jeep suvs to move troops... una go just come out dey analyze rubbish from One deep hole in Nigeria
you that live inside one old ashawo quarters nko,it was a bingo like you that prince charles avoided shaking hands with recently because you are slaves and disgusting in their eyes.

I live in nigeria,am proud of it and am sure that I can feed you for life
Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 1:29am On Sep 21, 2022
Segun2222:
how many usa troops died from the invasion compared to Russia.... make una continue agenda
Bitter cunt,how many us soldiers died invading Vietnam, you guys act as if the US military is perfect,the same one that fled like rodents out of Afghanistan
Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 1:32am On Sep 21, 2022
Segun2222:
add pow too cos Russian pow full telegram grin for every 1 pow captured another is probably killed
so the almost 50k captured Ukrainian POWs are dogs abi? u western pigs act like robots I swear but I promise you one thing,at the end Russia will win and you all can go suck your masters
Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 1:34am On Sep 21, 2022
okeysoninv:
I don't pity all these retard Putards here in Nairaland. Most of them are arm chair analyst. my condolences goes to my countrymen and women still living in that hell called Russia that don't know what is in stock for them. putard the bastard is about the cut off population of Russians.
Frustration ,na putin matter go make you mad o grin grin
Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 1:37am On Sep 21, 2022
okeysoninv:
ist guard tank army which was formed and designated to tackle NATO was beaten red and black in Kyiv. Now , they have been downgraded they don't have capacity to defend Moscow. Russia is finished spiritually and physically.
grin grin grin

you are a comedian I swear
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 2:15am On Sep 21, 2022
leobergy:
Bitter cunt,how many us soldiers died invading Vietnam, you guys act as if the US military is perfect,the same one that fled like rodents out of Afghanistan
mumu 50k+ service men in 20 years Russia already did 30k+ in less than s year.... them go soon recruit you go crimea mumu boy
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 2:16am On Sep 21, 2022
leobergy:
you that live inside one old ashawo quarters nko,it was a bingo like you that prince charles avoided shaking hands with recently because you are slaves and disgusting in their eyes.

I live in nigeria,am proud of it and am sure that I can feed you for life
you're probably still under 20, I'm so sure you're still collecting stipends from your poor parents
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 2:21am On Sep 21, 2022
haaryobhami:
they believe Russia stated controlled media but will shout fake and west propaganda to everynews from independent media from d west
trust Nigerians to always behave mentally retarded......they'll say the west pushes propaganda by controlling the media meanwhile in Russia the government is the media grin...... if not for this conflict i would have still held Russia in high regards till i saw them using danfo busses lookalike to move troops from Russia.... there are videos on Telegram where prisoners of war are saying not all the tanks in ukr capable of shooting, saying some can shoot but can't move and vice versa
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