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MaxInDHouse:
Keep crying over your delusion!

The deluded ones know themselves. They are Cultist who claim to be doing God's work but never know that God don't look at works but knowledge of who He is
Seeing they don't see. Hearing they don't hear. Neither did they understand the scriptures
They are not led by the spirit of God cos they don't believe if their is any at all. They say they are sons but are not led by the spirit of God. How then can you be called sons?
True sheep are those who hear the voice of their maker. They don't hear. They don't believe anyone who says he hears from God or see visions.
They claim they are disciples of the Messiah but have no power to do any miracle or any extraordinary thing. They forgot that the Messiah gave his ppl power to do great things.
They say they are the witnesses but have no power to do what the Witnesses will do
They say they preach but have no power or gift given to those called to witness. Didn't the disciples recieve the holy spirit before they went out to witness? Hahaha Witnesses without power

All they are good at is stealing bible references and claim that they are the one fulfilling it. What a bunch of ignorant folks

Such Church are called a dead Church. They lack power and knowledge of the word and who God truly is. Such groups are counselled to go and get salv and anoint their eyes and ears so they could see and hear from the one they call God. They do the bidding of their gb and claim to work for God. May their eyes recieve light. May they see and hear from their maker.

bobestman:
The deluded ones know themselves. They are Cultist who claim to be doing God's work but never know that God don't look at works but knowledge of who He is
Seeing they don't see. Hearing they don't hear. Neither did they understand the scriptures
They are not led by the spirit of God cos they don't believe if their is any at all. They say they are sons but are not led by the spirit of God. How then can you be called sons?
True sheep are those who hear the voice of their maker. They don't hear. They don't believe anyone who says he hears from God or see visions.
They claim they are disciples of the Messiah but have no power to do any miracle or any extraordinary thing. They forgot that the Messiah gave his ppl power to do great things.
They say they are the witnesses but have no power to do what the Witnesses will do
They say they preach but have no power or gift given to those called to witness. Didn't the disciples recieve the holy spirit before they went out to witness? Hahaha Witnesses without power

All they are good at is stealing bible references and claim that they are the one fulfilling it. What a bunch of ignorant folks

Such Church are called a dead Church. They lack power and knowledge of the word and who God truly is. Such groups are counselled to go and get salv and anoint their eyes and ears so they could see and hear from the one they call God. They do the bidding of their gb and claim to work for God. May their eyes recieve light. May they see and hear from their maker.

There's no knowledge in what you can't put to visible WORKS! James 2:18-26

Mad people also have knowledge but do you know why they're insane?
Well it's because all their knowledge can't be put to any PRACTICAL use!

MaxInDHouse:
There's no knowledge in what you can't put to visible WORKS! James 2:18-26

Mad people also have knowledge but do you know why they're insane?
Well it's because all their knowledge can't be put to any PRACTICAL use!

I speak of spiritual knowledge or divine knowledge. It takes a divine knowledge to understand a divine entity. God is a spirit and those who claim to worship him must do so in Spirit and Truth.

bobestman:
I speak of spiritual knowledge or divine knowledge. It takes a divine knowledge to understand a divine entity. God is a spirit and those who claim to worship him must do so in Spirit and Truth.

I have seen an insane on the street mimicking that so because Jesus said something and you mimicked doesn't mean you have anything upstairs what proves you're sane is the FRUIT as in PRACTICAL BENEFITS of what you're saying {Matthew 7:16-18} in the absence of that you're no good than the madman in our street!

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you typed:



Meaning this law is no longer in force even in the land where it was first established so how do you expect me in Nigeria to keep what the original nation to whom it was given aren't keeping any more?

If you where sensible enough you would have just continue with your heritage why did you switch to the Christian scriptures if it has no basis from the old testament..
You are still the one making a wrong choice..

sonmvayina:
If you where sensible enough you would have just continue with your heritage why did you switch to the Christian scriptures if it has no basis from the old testament..
You are still the one making a wrong choice..

I submitted to laws that makes sense to me just as you've always talked about what makes sense to you in this 21st century!

sonmvayina:
If you where sensible enough you would have just continue with your heritage why did you switch to the Christian scriptures if it has no basis from the old testament..
You are still the one making a wrong choice..

I subscribed to laws that makes sense to me just as you've always talked about what makes sense to you in this 21st century!

MaxInDHouse:
I have seen an insane on the street mimicking that so because Jesus said something and you mimicked doesn't mean you have anything upstairs what proves you're sane is the FRUIT as in PRACTICAL BENEFITS of what you're saying {Matthew 7:16-18} in the absence of that you're no good than the madman in our street!

Are you speaking in tongues cos what you said made no sense
Only foolish and ignorant ppl classify spiritual things as madness. This is cos it is sth they don't understand cos they are spiritually sick and blind. Miracles, visions, dreams etc make you guys afraid so you call such ppl mad. The Messiah and his disciples were called madmen not cos of their knowledge on books but cos they understand spiritual things that the ppl around them can't comprehend

So if you claim to be his disciples or Witnesses, you need power and you must be able to do such things they did. You can't cos your organisation is a spiritually dead one. They are one of the spiritually dead 7 Churches in the book of Revelations. They are blind and need to apply salv to their eyes so they can see and underatnd spiritual things

bobestman:
Are you speaking in tongues cos what you said made no sense
Only foolish and ignorant ppl classify spiritual things as madness. This is cos it is sth they don't understand cos they are spiritually sick and blind. Miracles, visions, dreams etc make you guys afraid so you call such ppl mad. The Messiah and his disciples were called madmen not cos of their knowledge on books but cos they understand spiritual things that the ppl around them can't comprehend

So if you claim to be his disciples or Witnesses, you need power and you must be able to do such things they did. You can't cos your organisation is a spiritually dead one. They are one of the spiritually dead 7 Churches in the book of Revelations. They are blind and need to apply salv to their eyes so they can see and underatnd spiritual things

All these makes you and others arguing with you equal so if you say they're spiritually blind they will say the same about you, if you say they're spiritually deaf they will say exactly the same about you.
So the only way to prove who is saying the truth is PRACTICAL BENEFITS of what you know in the absence of that you're no good than the insane sitting in a corner looking at everyone else as mad people!

MaxInDHouse:
I submitted to laws that makes sense to me just as you've always talked about what makes sense to you in this 21st century!

Do you really understand the divine laws?

Or should I create a thread to teach you.?
All you need to do is ask..

MaxInDHouse:
All these makes you and others arguing with you equal so if you say they're spiritually blind they will say the same about you, if you say they're spiritually deaf they will say exactly the same about you.
So the only way to prove who is saying the truth is PRACTICAL BENEFITS of what you know in the absence of that you're no good than the insane sitting in a corner looking at everyone else as mad people!

The best practical benefit can only and only be achieved by knowledge of God divine laws as contained in the Torah and the Igbo omenani/odinani

sonmvayina:
Do you really understand the divine laws?
Or should I create a thread to teach you.?
All you need to do is ask..

Well i don't think any laws that's not yielding positive results as in BENEFITS now is divine! Isaiah 1:18

sonmvayina:
The best practical benefit can only and only be achieved by knowledge of God divine laws as contained in the Torah and the Igbo omenani/odinani

Go and apply it in your PERSONAL life since you can't present any group applying it and i too will apply the best from my own point of view!

MaxInDHouse:
Go and apply it in your PERSONAL life since you can't present any group applying it and i too will apply the best from my own point of view!

This is one group...and we are growing

https://www./1435554139940305/?ref=share

This is another

https://www./TorahLessons/?ref=share


You though I was an island

MaxInDHouse:
Well i don't think any laws that's not yielding positive results as in BENEFITS now is divine! Isaiah 1:18

I agree...

sonmvayina:
This is one group...and we are growing
https://www./1435554139940305/?ref=share
This is another
https://www./TorahLessons/?ref=share
You though I was an island

Great! Stop talking rubbish about group rather present the indisputable proof of the benefits of such group then we can talk about the laws they believe and how they're putting it to good use!

sonmvayina:
I agree...

Great!

MaxInDHouse:
Great! Stop talking rubbish about group rather present the indisputable proof of the benefits of such group then we can talk about the laws they believe and how they're putting it to good use!

This out talk is going round in circles..

I am signing off..

sonmvayina:
What was the new convenient about
Show me from the old testament..?
Show me where God said he would impregnate a woman to sire the Messiah and usher in the new convenient ??

When God promised the Israelites a saviour while in slavery under Egypt, did he give the full description?
Did he say Moses would be hidden in a basket and become one of Pharaoh's family?
Did he say he would fled Egypt and go to Midian and marry from there?

Mr black Jew, you have no point.

Ken4Christ:
You have made up your mind on what to believe. And you have also been brainwashed. All the wrong teachings that have been programmed into your mind is what is affecting you.
Now answer this question, each time the scripture talks about hell, it says that people will be cast or thrown into hell. Do they throw dead bodies into the grave or lower them gently.
While would Jesus use an imaginary place to warn us or make illustrations.
Why did the Bible say those that will be thrown in there will weep and gnash their teeth? In your village, do dead bodies in the grave weep and gnash their teeth?
Why will the Bible say that they will be tormented day and night? Is there torment in the grave?
Why would the Bible talk about the sorrows of hell? Is there sorrow in the grave?
It shall never be well with Rushell that brought these false teachings. He is already experiencing torture and wishing that someone would come and stop his evil organization he started.
I have tried my best to help you but you don't want to be helped.
Enjoy your journey to hell. You will regret your pride and stupidity because even your conscience is a witness that you are not honest. The evidences that refutes your teachings are overwhelming but you just choose to ignore them.

If you really want a meaningful discussion, we should take it one after the other.

Is hell and grave the same?

MaxInDHouse:
And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. Jeremiah 7:31

The wages of sin is death {Romans 6:23 compare to Genesis 2:17} God's word says at death man has been discharged from all his sins because he has fully paid for it at death! Romans 6:7

So anything you find contrary to this means symbolic terms because God cannot lie! Titus 1:2

And mind you Kobojunkie is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses

Interpret the scriptures he gave and stop dulging and derailing from his points.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the wages of sin?

Just in one word as written in God's word!

Guy, you've been deceived.

Revelation 21:8
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

The second death, that's the wages of sin. If physical death is the wage of sin, then the righteous shouldn't die. All sinners shall die the second death but the righteous shall have eternal life.

sonmvayina:
This out talk is going round in circles..
I am signing off..

It's either you keep what you know to yourself or present a better performing group than the one i know that's making use of God's laws to benefit all members!

RoyalDiadems:
Guy, you've been deceived.
Revelation 21:8
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
The second death, that's the wages of sin. If physical death is the wage of sin, then the righteous shouldn't die. All sinners shall die the second death but the righteous shall have eternal life.

You didn't answer the question!

Truvelisback:
Interpret the scriptures he gave and stop dulging and derailing from his points.

Misinformed Churchgoers all over the thread as if they're interested in God's word.
It's only fire that you guys can talk about but all other symbolic terms in the Bible book of Revelation keeps you people in darkness!

MaxInDHouse:
It's either you keep what you know to yourself or present a better performing group than the one i know that's making use of God's laws to benefit all members!

If you argue against these scriptures below, it certainly means you are against Jesus and how Almighty God have decided to do things now! Jesus says Almighty God is looking for people who will worship him without attachment to buildings, religions or denominations. God's True worshippers worship in Spirit and in Truth. Jesus explained what Worshipping in Spirit means. Worshipping in Spirit = No attachments to buildings, religions and denominations! Your Full attention MUST be on Jesus and Almighty God ALONE! Not on Denominations or physical buildings. You're so stupid because Jesus in verse 23 is giving an Expo on the kind of Christians God is looking for but you're foolishly ignoring it because what Watchtower teaches is more important than What Almighty God is looking for. His Own Son is giving you a clue but you're choosing to be blind.

I repeat, if you argue against this and still peddle better performing group, you are against Almighty God and Jesus and have shown that you completely disagree with how They have decided to run True Worship now! It means you are an Antichrist.

cornelboy:
If you really want a meaningful discussion, we should take it one after the other.

Is hell and grave the same?

They are not the same and I have made about 20 differences between hell and physical grave.

Ken4Christ:
They are not the same and I have made about 20 differences between hell and physical grave.

According to God's word both means exactly the same thing!

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word both means exactly the same thing!

You are insisting on your preconceived opinion in spite of overwhelming evidences against them.

Answer these questions

1. How deep is the physical grave that it should be used as a reference for depth? So, it couldn't have been grave the scripture was referring when or said 'as deep as hell.

2. Does fire burn in your physical grave? Maybe only in your village? I would love to see it.

3. Do people gnash their teeth and weep in the physical grave? Maybe only in your village.

4. Do people talk in the physical grave? But there is conversation in hell. I would like to see where people talk in your physical grave.

Your insanity is beyond cure. Denying evidences that are so clear is a spiritual crime of the highest degree. The people of Sodom and Gomorrah will tolerate hell more than you.

They will laugh at you because they were not given this opportunity that you have now to have access to information. Information which clearly contradicts your beliefs and you deny it just to hold on to your lies that has not benefited anyone.

May God grant you speed to hell so you will not deceive more gullible souls like you.

Ken4Christ:
You are insisting on your preconceived opinion in spite of overwhelming evidences against them.
Answer these questions
1. How deep is the physical grave that it should be used as a reference for depth? So, it couldn't have been grave the scripture was referring when or said 'as deep as hell.
2. Does fire burn in your physical grave? Maybe only in your village? I would love to see it.
3. Do people gnash their teeth and weep in the physical grave? Maybe only in your village.
4. Do people talk in the physical grave? But there is conversation in hell. I would like to see where people talk in your physical grave.
Your insanity is beyond cure. Denying evidences that are so clear is a spiritual crime of the highest degree. The people of Sodom and Gomorrah will tolerate hell more than you.
They will laugh at you because they were not given this opportunity that you have now to have access to information. Information which clearly contradicts your beliefs and you deny it just to hold on to your lies that has not benefited anyone.
May God grant you speed to hell so you will not deceive more gullible souls like you.

Your curses are within your mouth and your roof so if you don't know something just ask that's all!

When people heard Jesus teach in parables but took his teachings literally they turned back from following him {John 6:66} so instead of calmly waiting for the meaning of the symbolic terms Jesus used they thought they will literally eat Jesus' flesh and drink his blood but the faithful were wise they knew there's no better teacher than Jesus so hoping they will later understand what this wonderful counselor is teaching in idioms they stick to him! John 6:68

So if you need the meaning of those idioms all you have to do is ask politely because your curses means nothing to true believers! Isaiah 54:17

Ken4Christ:
They are not the same and I have made about 20 differences between hell and physical grave.

Are you saying that there's a SPIRITUAL grave?
Perhaps there is.
Let's study through some verses of the Bible.

KJV
Genesis 37:35
And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, For I will go down into the grave unto my son [/b]mourning. Thus his father wept for him.


You should notice that Jacob thought was to go meet his son in the grave. It sounds more like a spiritual grave, doesn't it?

The Hebrew word for [b]grave in the above verse is "She'ol". You see that "She'ol" was clearly translated to 'grave'.

While in another verse;
KJV
Psalms 16:10
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

New King James Version.
For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

You see yourself that the same Hebrew word "She'ol" was translated to both hell and and grave.


Those two verses without reasonable doubt prove that grave and hell are the same thing.


Those that translated the KJV are so skilled in meddling and disturbing our brains.
I'm free from their inconsistent and deviant translations though.

So is hell different from grave?
Absolutely not!