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Vladimir Putin’s 20-Year March To War In Ukraine And How The West Mishandled It / Russia-Ukraine Crisis: "Putin Cannot Remain In Power" - President Biden / Marina Ovsyannikova, Russian Anti-War Protester Interrupts News On State TV (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Gov. by seankafor(m): 9:18pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
gambojimeta:fvckup no dey soar bro Any hard hardened president can still resurrect the matters.. But do Nigeria has what it takes to fight for it? |
Re: Gov. by gambojimeta: 9:23pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Ibime:Withdraw from the territory they just annexed? |
Re: Gov. by gambojimeta: 9:24pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
seankafor:Obj either chose peace or was thinking of the consequences of sanctions. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Fash20: 9:25pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
joyandfaith: How is syria under western sphere of influence 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 9:27pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
The riots in Iran: The authorities in the province of Sistan and Baluchistan announced that in the clashes today at least 19 people were killed and another 20 were injured. |
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 9:29pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Note this part from Vladimir Putin's speech: "The USA was the first to use nuclear weapons against Hiroshima and Nagasaki and thus set a precedent" Note the use of the word precedent as if it were an excuse for Russian use of nuclear weapons. ( Amir Tsarfati) |
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 9:31pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
In response to Zelenskyy’s request to join NATO, the White House says: “Now is not the time to join Ukraine to NATO.” 1 Like |
Re: Gov. by paafin(m): 9:31pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
gambojimeta: To quote the guy again weak me 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by BentizilL: 9:32pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
castro2468:Ok |
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 9:38pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Biden vows "to ban assault weapons" in the US. 1 Like
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Re: Gov. by joyandfaith: 9:46pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Fash20: Which country granted independent to Syria? |
Re: Gov. by Nobody: 9:47pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Other ethnic Russian populations are not facing genocide like in Ukraine. Maybe in Georgia where SouthOssetia is also semi autonomous or Moldova with Transnistria. But non of them had been as aggressive to Russians as Ukraine. The kiev regime is simply wicked. RepoMan007: |
Re: Gov. by Nobody: 9:50pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Russians encircled? Maybe. Town taken? Nope. Please stay away from disinformation. Ibime: |
Re: Gov. by Nobody: 9:51pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Of course, USA has never grabbed land before. Puerto Rico and Hawaii have always been American land. gambojimeta: |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
atmy1: I said the town is taken, calling out the inevitable. Na to die, starve or withdraw remain. What's disinformation about that? |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 10:20pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
gambojimeta: Not really especially in Brazil case Brics countries hardly ever vote against each other, highest they abstain 1 Like |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 10:21pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
atmy1: What genocide? Easy on the lies. |
Re: Gov. by sanpipita(m): 10:25pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Uprightness100: They can't be bold and stand with Russia? 1 Like |
Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 10:30pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
RepoMan007: The convicts are joining Wagner. The grandpas are classed as reservists. In the US, servicemembers can choose not to re-enlist or renew after their tours end. They can leave the military and become civilians, no strings attached. Russia also has such people. The total number is around 25 million men. These are former contract soldiers and those who completed mandatory training. Around 2% of them, of all ages are been called back and given expedited training. The fittest of them with combat experience are already heading to the front. Russia has also started conscription. The order Putin signed today for 120,000. Fresh meat with no military training. They'll receive full training for 18 months. Putin is covering all his bases and creating a larger battle-hardened force for any confrontation in the future. The US currently has around 400K active duty Army servicemembers and another 150,000K Marines. Army reservists are 200K. For a country of 300m people with 100 bases overseas. Consequently, during the Vietnam War, when they had to send more than 500K, they started the draft which led to draft dodgers. You can read about it. And Fragging. That's when soldiers deliberately kill officers, for example because they disagree with tactics or think they're in a hopeless situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging . In fact, it was coined during the Vietnam War. Documented incidents were over 900. Unofficial reports are much higher. During in the Iraq War, where they took 180K soldiers. They had to call up most of their 200K reservists. And when Saddam's regime fell, they had to look to the Iraqi generals they paid off to assemble a fighting force and police force to control the country. They also had to enlist help from their allies. Putin just took land that's the equivalent of Portugal and preparing to scuttle the current Ukrainian offensive and take even more Oblasts. And he's just arranging his cards. He has not started playing them. All preparations are for maximum flexibility. In case, NATO tries to enter Ukraine, he'd need to be able to not just beat them, but give the yapping shrews in places like Poland, Lithuania, and Romania better wotowoto. Russia is not your mate! -Lord 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 10:35pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Ibime: Liman has not been taken! They Ukies have not even encircled it completely. And no, taking it is not inevitable. Battle groups from the 58th Army have been sent to reinforce Liman and Ukies are taking troops from the Kherson front to replace their losses there. Pure disinformation. -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 10:41pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
LordAdam16: Lyman or Liman? No worry, in a couple of weeks, your eye go clear |
Re: Gov. by ocelot2006(m): 10:48pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Looks like Russian reinforcement has finally poured in Lyman from Luhansk just in time. The Russians are now on the counter-offensive. The Ukrainians are now withdrawing troops from Oskil and even from fronts in the Donetsk to quickly reinforce their troops before the Russians break through their lines. The tables just turned. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 10:48pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Ibime: Where else in Europe is the official government shelling non-native speakers? Name one. Even the Spanish are not shelling Catalans. Georgia is not shelling South Ossetia in their territory even though Russia recognizes it as a sovereign state. 15,000 civilians have been killed by the Ukrainian government in the Donbass since 2014, after they signed the Minsk 2 Agreement to give them semi-autonomy. Why should it not be called genocide? It's already ethnic cleansing. You either feign ignorance or support the killings wholeheartedly, don't pussyfoot around it. -Lord 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 10:52pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
China has opened dozens of "overseas police stations" around the globe to monitor its citizens living abroad, including in the US and Canada. ( Nypost)
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Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 10:56pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Ibime: Ukrainian and Russian spellings. Dude, time is running out for Ukraine. Winter starts in 2 months. The 300K soldiers have already started entering the front. They don't have weeks. It's concerning they've not made huge strides in Zap and Kherson for over a month. When Russia starts their Winter offensive, it'll be biblical. -Lord 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 11:01pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
LordAdam16: Stop your fücking lies. Russia backed the seperatists to launch a seperatist war in 2014 because Ukrainians wanted to join the EU, and from then till 2022, 14,000 people died on both sides in the course of war, including combatants in that number. 300 civilians alone from your seperatists shooting down Dutch passengers on Malaysia flight. Your country did Police action against Biafra for just 3 years and 3 million civilians were killed. Over 200,000 civilians died under American occupation of Iraq. 14,000 civilians and combatants died in Ukraine civil war and you are opening your mouth to spew Russian lies of genocide. In that case, the Ukrainians must be the most restrained genocidalists of all time. 7 months only Russia has been in Ukraine and more civilians have been killed than the 8 years prior. When you talk of genocide, that's what's happened to the Ukrainians in Donbass and Lugansk and fit the UNs five definitions of genocide including extrajudicial killings and forceful deportation of close to a million of them to Russia. This is genocide. They were the majority in both regions prior to 2014 as census records show. The ethnic Russians were a minority in both those regions unlike Crimea where they constitute majority, and cannot dictate where the region should be. 1 Like |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 11:06pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
LordAdam16: You must be drinking your Ruskie Telegram koolaid thinking the Russians are in a good spot in Lyman. That's how you guys denied Kharkiv till it blew up.in your face. They have one road out which is within 2km of the Ukrainian frontline and even that road is within easy range of artillery fire. Either they flee, surrender, fight to death, or get put under siege. . . or wait for Putin to drop nuclear bomb. . . but they are in no way in a good spot. 1 Like |
Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 11:16pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Ibime: What separatist war? The war already ended with the Minsk agreements signed by Ukraine and guaranteed by Germany and France. Why did the Ukrainian government renege that agreement and continue shelling the Donbass for 8 years? So Russians are the minority in the Donbass and the Ukrainian government is shelling Ukrainians in Donbass with whom they had agree to give increased autonomy. Did you think your poor whitewashing of ethnic cleansing (genocide?) through? -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:20pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
LordAdam16:Can you tell us usa casualties in those war and compare it with Russia's, usa lost 50k+ soldiers in 20 years and killed 1m+ Vietnam soldiers still 20 years in a very far unfamiliar terrain, Russia is fighting their neighborh and tbey are having logistic problems, we all say how Russia was using danfo and suv to move troops 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 11:24pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Ibime: That was from yesterday. Even the DPR officials confirmed they had been partially encircled. Then the 58th Army was sent in earlier today. Pro-Russia Telegram will admit losses. It's nothing new. Nor is it permanent. They're the ones who've been calling for new injections, including mobilizations even before the Kharkov debacle. What are the major Ukrainian successes in Kherson and Zap? The counteroffensive started in Kherson. They've been trying to retake the Zap Nuclear Plant. Why have they not succeeded at those objectives for more than 4 weeks? -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 11:27pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
Uprightness100:which day mobilization start no training, they're already sending them quickly why is Russia behaving like a third war country? it's the 21st century brute strength hardly works, they need to focus on precision strikes instead of this brute strength tactics 1 Like |
Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 11:32pm On Sep 30, 2022 |
LordAdam16: Who reneged on what? According to your Ruskie Telegram sources? A rebel group.of seperatists cannot keep arming itself with heavy weaponry after signing agreement and expect the Sovereign Nation to be arms akimbo. Russia meanwhile washed its hands claiming it is not party to the agreement and the heavy artillery belong to the Republics not to Russia. Once again,. Donetsk and Luhansk are minority Russian and have no business telling the.majority what to do just because their big brother Russia is poking them and providing them weapons. If I'm lying, pull up any census records before 2014 and debunk it. This is a conflict inspired, funded and promulgated by Russia. Erstwhile peaceful people cannot just wake up one day and be fully armed and trained just because Ukraine decided to join EU. If there was an organic seperatist movement, it would have been bubbling since just like MEND or Unknown Gunmen in the East. Russia woke up and decided to destabilise Ukraine because.of their democratic decision to chop money with the EU.rather than bind themselves to poverty and living standards of the Russians. I would repeat this to put your Putard propaganda into context. Your country did Police action against Biafra for just 3 years and 3 million civilians were killed. Over 200,000 civilians died under American occupation of Iraq. 14,000 civilians and combatants died in 8 years of Ukraine civil war and you are opening your mouth to spew Russian lies of genocide. In that case, the Ukrainians must be the most restrained genocidalists of all time. 1 Like 1 Share
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