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Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by dagbas: 4:19pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
lhordspy:Thanks for this wonderful exposé bro |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by lhordspy: 4:20pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
CoronaVirusRelo: I am tired of coreecting people like you. I think the best thing is for you guys to just stay away from foreign politics. You understand Nada about it. Russia just annexed four regiom, about like 15% of Land mass. If they didnt mobilise men, who did yoj expect to guard that place and ensure stability. Dogs? Or sticks? They needed more men to be able to spread across the four region. Get that into your head |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Nobody: 4:26pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
lhordspy: Hear yourself! The overhyped shithole annexed 15% of a country it shares boarders with, after using months to build up around Ukraine boarders. Do you read what you typing? 15% and already started drafting civilians Tell me more please! Can you give me a count of the artilleries that has been lost? So we can see if it’s proportional to the 15% Should nuclear option even be on the table for Russia if it’s military were that strong? But it tells you Putin is pained! Doesn’t the whole world now know the shithole is overhyped? What consider |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Lerumo: 4:27pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
lhordspy: Sentiments aside, I am really trying to understand what your point is exactly. 1 Like |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Masterito(m): 4:34pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
People like are just online miscreants who no nothing about sovereignty. lhordspy: 1 Like |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 4:37pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:War like chess entails moving up and down. Its a game of position and strategy. Wot u can observe right now about Russian positioning, is to gather their troops in more compact formations. Since they are not too many. While the Ukrainians are scattering their forces on all fronts, drawing up forces from Kiev, Odessa etc to dislodge the Russians. The attacking force pay more in lives. By time Russia resume counter, wot will happen to Ukraine troops? This is just an SMO and the Russian army is not even called up yet! But Ukraine is almost spent! No sense |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 4:40pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Karnice600:Go and shave your beards. Witchcraft is not by force |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by lhordspy: 4:40pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
CoronaVirusRelo: After typing this, am done with you. And dont quote me again. You are ignorant. You called 15% mere? Do you know how many countries landmass could be derive from that 'mere 15%' Alright. I am done with you. Bye. Dont quote me again Lols. |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Nobody: 4:42pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Karnice600: There you go, you lack substance and I can see that through you, how dare you want to debate me on geopolitical issues…. Just go back to your insults as you have nothing to say other than that. Ignorant boy. |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Nobody: 4:42pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: I cannot believe it has gotten to this! What happened to the many they had before? I never knew the military has been reduced to extent of drafting civilians 1 Like |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 4:43pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: You haven't answered the questions though. What did the Russian casualties die for in the liberated cities. E.g. Lyman. 1 Like |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 4:47pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: If the city was empty, who killed the 2000 Ukrainians you purport? Why did Russia seize an empty city when Kyiv is there? You're hardly answering the questions. Just making conjectures. |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:04pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
IjeBos:Indeed u have a right to ur opinion, and I honestly think Putin would have had no problems taking ur advice. But you see NATO is a different ball game. There is nothing they are accusing Russia of in Ukraine now, they don’t do everyday. Where were u wen NATO invaded Serbia? NATO carved out Kosovo from Serbia singlehandedly! Were was their principle of u don’t attack a sovereign nation that time? Wot is the basis of America fighting in Syria? Is Syria not a sovereign nation? They declared war on terror. The meaning of that is that they can attack anywhere anytime as long as THEY BELIEVE TERROR is happening there. Its was the justification for striking Iran and killing Sulaimoni. Where is sovereignty argument in all of these? Why America suddenly a champion of sovereignty? Anybody can join NATO? U see NATO is a military block and its about time others begin to tell dem to cool down. Why are they preparing for war? Wot is there preparation about? Wot is the guarantee they won’t use that power against others? Is the UN not enough as a global body? So NATO will lead to more global war and not peace. It should be reduced. As for Ukraine. They must blame themselves for being so weak as to become a launching pad for NATO’s attacks against Russia. Why do u think Israel occupied Lebanon for 10yrs? Cos the country was a launching pad of PLO activities. Russia must protect itself against the weakness of Ukraine |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:13pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:In Kharkiv a withdrawing Russia was a tempting target for the advancing Ukrainian. They abandoned defensive positions which made the Russians speedily cut many down with artillery. U can fire it at 20km with deadly effect. Putin is not interested in Kiev. He will be foolish to sacrifice for a territory u cannot keep. If he captures Kiev, he will still have to give it up in negotiations or so. Why not focus on where he plans to keep forever? |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:20pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
CoronaVirusRelo:Media showing civilians being forced were old tapes played for ur viewing pleasure. Why is it so easy for the Ukrainians to fool u people? They show u people protesting RESERVISTS’ mobilization but didn’t show u people celebrating it? Or queuing up to get mobilized? Russia is not at war formally. The red army is still at home sleeping. U have not even seen anything yet. 1 Like |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Advision: 5:27pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
lhordspy:You must be a russian bot or smoking some stuff Official russian new agency - Tass as propagandarish as they are, cannot deny they are losing on the battlefield https://tass.com/defense/1517979 https://tass.com/defense/1518537 https://tass.com/defense/1517927
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Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:38pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
gambojimeta:Maybe. Note something though. We are not as incapable as we seem to u. Most of those companies handling are oil exploration and production are European. They are forced on us. We can’t say no. That’s the problem. Precolonial agreements include Africa MUST not be technically advanced, we must not financially independent, we must have no other pact with other powers without the approval of the colonial master. We must not become sufficient in Arming ourselves and developing weapons of war. The list is endless. If you go against these things, they will invent an excuse to attack u. Wen we took IMF loan, it was by force. Wen we devalued our currency, it was becos they told us to. African’s independence is just on paper. In real life the white man is still ruling. They pick ur leaders. I don’t think the Russians will be so demonic as British French and d Americans, if they become our new masters |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 5:40pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: So why was he headed to Kyiv in March/April 2022. What exactly did he plan to do there? The Russian soldiers who died in Lyman, Kharkiv, Mykoliav and Kupiansk died for what exactly? You haven't answered the key questions. If he never intended to keep the cities Ukraine has now liberated, why did he hold them at the cost of his men's lives. Why didn't he hold unto ONLY the 4 he has annexed. I suppose when Ukraine liberates one of the 4 you'll also realize that Russia never needed that one too. 1 Like |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:52pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:Putin intends to keep Donetsk. That has not been thoroughly liberated. He will still take Kiev, didn’t get me wrong. If that’s wot it takes to end the war, he will. But that’s not d focus. Those Russians who died? May their souls Rest In Peace. That’s wot war is about. Why was Putin go to Kiev initially? He had success to some extent, taking Bucha. I believe it’s bad timing. Kiev comes last, then Liviv. Everything in its time |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 6:00pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: What is the meaning of success to some extent? Did you say in your last comment that he didn't want Kyiv. What then is success to some extent. As we speak now IS Russia in control of Kyiv? If NO, what exactly does success to some extent mean.. Also Bucha has since been liberated. So ? |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by seunayantokun(m): 6:09pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
BentizilL:When we discuss what they did wrong, we can go on and criticise them. But are they on our table now? Let Ukrainian lives and those of innocent Russians and other peoples caught up in the selfwill of a man matter to you. If you don't have relatives in the West, let the lives of your fellow Nigerians who live or have friends and families in Europe and America matter to you. |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 6:24pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:Were u d one that forced Putin out of snake island? Wisdom is to know wot to keep and wot to leave. In Vietnam, America intended to wrest the country from communist. Wen that goal wasn’t possible, they concentrated in making sure communism didn’t spread thru the region. Wen they couldn’t stop the Taliban, they stayed long enough to make a lot of money for themselves. Goals can change in war. Initially Russia plan to get Ukraine recognize the autonomy of Donbas, wen Ukraine started fighting back, they now made Donbas a part of Russia. With dat move, the rest of Ukraine can join NATO now, it won’t matter again. The rest Ukraine can refuse to demilitarize it won’t matter again. They have removed Russian speaking people out of the place and made Donbas a sufficient buffer btw d west and Moscow. It was not the original plan, I can tell u |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 6:35pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: Who brought America into this discussion. I never did. Even so, America FAILED in Vietnam & retreated — since you're interested in making comparisons. Now are you ready to admit that Russia has failed too in the cities theyve been pushed out of? |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 6:48pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:How can u talk about failure wen a war is still ongoing? The Russians are not obligated to meet ur expectations. Conduct ur war affairs anyhow u fancy. U can even begin to celebrate ur victory for all its worth. The end is what is important |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 6:56pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: That's fine. What end do you foresee as victory so we can hold you to your words? You changed positions more times in this discussion than the Russians have change tactics. |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by richeeyo(m): 7:01pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
perryy: https://www.facebook.com/1448090885498011/posts/pfbid02UQ9FgoZXBDYvVjuZ5oXD8qkfoSmEdbCg5E6Fdp64Rmv7PmzY3PTzD6ygb3QnmNNtl/?app=fbl |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 7:08pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:1. Russians will comprehensively wrest 4new regions out of the hands of Ukraine and NATO 2. Russia will capture so many territories to the south, west and north of Ukraine, but only as a bargaining strategy. 3. That’s what will happen in summary |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Nobody: 7:10pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: You are blaming the media for what Putin declared in a speech by himself? You lots are something else! |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by royalfly(m): 7:14pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Omeleyi: I pray no one fights u in ur house for what ever reason and all you can do us run. It's very painful that people have to suffer like this because of one man's madness |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 7:16pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
CoronaVirusRelo:I not telling u Putin’s decisions is 100% accepted by all Russians. No leader of any nation has 100% support on policies. To hype those demonstrating as sign that all Russia hated the mobilization is too clumsy na! |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Asour: 7:39pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Krismas: Fine. But what's NATO doing in your prediction. Ukraine is not a NATO country. Bargaining for what exactly? |
Re: Biden: Putin Wasn't Joking About The Use Of Tactical Weapons In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 8:04pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Asour:If NATO is not involved in the war, how manage they have spent $200 billion USD on Ukraine? Wot more do u need to see, b4 u believe it’s a battle btw NATO and Russia in Ukraine battlefield? Bargaining? War alone does not bring peace. Wen Europe is tired of this war, they know how to end it. Putin can suggest giving up all the other areas in his possession in exchange for the 4areas in the east to be recognized by Europe as part and parcel of Russia federation |
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