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Re: Gov. by Ibime(m): 7:36pm On Oct 10, 2022
ParasiteWest:
You don talk weytin you wan talk.
The bottom line be say the US was unable to defeat the small island nation of Japan without nuclear weapons.
The japs miscalculated, they felt Germany was going to defeat Russia.
Fortunately for the Nazis, Russia defeated Germany.
The defeat of Germany led to research and development of nuclear weapons that was deployed in Japan by the US cowards who had fled and abandoned their positions after suffering heavy casualties at the hands of the little Japanese men.
That small island of Japan conquered the whole of Asia and defeated Russia in the Russo-Japan war. Respect Japan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War
Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 7:37pm On Oct 10, 2022
Ibime:
That small island of Japan conquered the whole of Asia and defeated Russia in the Russo-Japan war. Respect Japan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War
Which is why the US was unable to defeat them without deploying nuclear weapons.
Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 7:50pm On Oct 10, 2022
Strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure an adequate response to Kiev’s terror — DPR head
Denis Pushilin stressed that assassinations of politicians and servicemen that happened in Donbass, in Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, were terror attacks.
"We face blatant terrorism and blatant Nazism. If we talk about terror attacks committed by the Kiev regime, it did not start now, it has been happening for all these 8.5 years," Pushilin said, adding that Ukrainian shelling of Donbass cities for 8.5 years can be characterized only as Nazism.

"We also saw it on the Crimean Bridge, where a blatant terror attack happened, and it caused a lot of joy amid the Kiev regime and its sympathizers," he said.

Speaking during a Russian Security Council meeting Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a massive strike on Ukrainian energy, communications and military control objects. The State Emergency Service of Ukraine reported total blackouts in Poltava, Lvov, Sumy, Kharkov and Ternopol Regions. Partial blackouts are registered in the rest of Ukraine. According to Ukrainian experts, it will take several days to eliminate the consequences.

Tbh, I want Ukraine to strike Russian infrastructure again, I want to see something wink
Re: Gov. by Alamkir: 8:07pm On Oct 10, 2022
Russian forces managed to disable a number of Starlink satellite communication terminals, which “caused chaos” in the command and control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Re: Gov. by ponyonm: 8:15pm On Oct 10, 2022
Uprightness100:
Forbes:
Russia fired $400-700 million worth of missiles at Ukraine in half a day
Big boy moves.
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 8:17pm On Oct 10, 2022
The Russian Embassy in Israel on the words of Prime Minister Lapid: "We have heard the words 'strong condemnation' against 'Russian attacks on the civilian population', but unfortunately Israel has chosen to remain silent during eight years of Ukrainian terrorist attacks in the Donbass, murderous killings by neo-Nazis from a battalion Azov in Kopiansk and other cities, the brutal murder of the journalist Daria Dogina and the terrorist attack on the bridge in Crimea"

Re: Gov. by leobergy(m): 8:21pm On Oct 10, 2022
Ibime:
USA had taken over all the islands surrounding Japan and had pummelled Japan to smithereens. USA is a country that values it's citizens lives, not like Japan and Russia that will lose tens of millions of citizens and not care, so they decided to simply drop nuke on Japan than start a costly invasion. That is the difference when the people are the Government rather than Japan where they must all die till the emperor agree. Soviet Union lost more people in WWII than all other nations combined. They mutiny easily because they know their leaders don't value their life. That's how Russia lost first World War and switched sides halfway through to fight on Germany's side. They are known for losing wars. Japan done give them, Germany done give them. They are known for desertion because nobody likes to die for a brutal dictator who use them as Cannon fodder. If you check well, even Finland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia done give them before during their wars of independence.
So you are justifying the dropping of nuclear bomb on Japan that killed thousands of women and kids,enough with the double standards western shit eaters are mad
Re: Gov. by Datguy5: 8:23pm On Oct 10, 2022
ParasiteWest:
Which is why the US was unable to defeat them without deploying nuclear weapons.
actually, the USA could have beaten japan without nuclear weapons but the death toll would have been too high as the Japanese army mentality was no surrender

the bombs were necessary to reduce death

Ibime:
That small island of Japan conquered the whole of Asia and defeated Russia in the Russo-Japan war. Respect Japan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War
while it is true that japan defeated Russia, Russia was so underdeveloped and weak at that time that it was like fighting a hospital patient
and japan didnt conquer all of asia, they only conquered the south eastern part
Re: Gov. by Datguy5: 8:25pm On Oct 10, 2022
leobergy:
So you are justifying the dropping of nuclear bomb on Japan that killed thousands of women and kids,enough with the double standards western shit eaters are mad
if the bombs weren't dropped, japan would have never surrendered
Re: Gov. by Datguy5: 8:27pm On Oct 10, 2022
Uprightness100:
The Russian Embassy in Israel on the words of Prime Minister Lapid: "We have heard the words 'strong condemnation' against 'Russian attacks on the civilian population', but unfortunately Israel has chosen to remain silent during eight years of Ukrainian terrorist attacks in the Donbass, murderous killings by neo-Nazis from a battalion Azov in Kopiansk and other cities, the brutal murder of the journalist Daria Dogina and the terrorist attack on the bridge in Crimea"
what israel have to do with this?

everything gets blamed on israel
Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 8:29pm On Oct 10, 2022
Datguy5:
actually, the USA could have beaten japan without nuclear weapons but the death toll would have been too high as the Japanese army mentality was no surrender

the bombs were necessary to reduce death



while it is true that japan defeated Russia, Russia was so underdeveloped and weak at that time that it was like fighting a hospital patient
and japan didnt conquer all of asia, they only conquered the south eastern part
Nuclear weapons used by the US was used on civilians and not military targets.
Russia could have also deployed nuclear weapons in Ukraine to reduce death (if that's the way you'll like to put it).
Stop giving me silly excuses.
Re: Gov. by gambojimeta: 8:31pm On Oct 10, 2022
Uprightness100:
The Russian Embassy in Israel on the words of Prime Minister Lapid: "We have heard the words 'strong condemnation' against 'Russian attacks on the civilian population', but unfortunately Israel has chosen to remain silent during eight years of Ukrainian terrorist attacks in the Donbass, murderous killings by neo-Nazis from a battalion Azov in Kopiansk and other cities, the brutal murder of the journalist Daria Dogina and the terrorist attack on the bridge in Crimea"
This was in response to Israel's PM condemnation of Russia.

Re: Gov. by LordAdam16: 8:31pm On Oct 10, 2022
BentizilL:
A neutral Soviet and a strong Japan ally would've made Hitler unstoppable, Hitler greatest mistake was invading Soviet Union...
England would've become a German colony, even in grave Hitler will forever regret invading Soviet. kiss
Hitler had no choice. The major Eurasian powers all pursued expansion plans.

Moreover, he needed oil. The Soviets were the closest, most accessible, and most reliable source. Unfortunately, they were unwilling to ally with him, because they feared it'll backfire. They thought right; because the Americans pursued a Cold War after victory. Hitler would have done same.

In a different timeline, Hitler, Stalin, and Hirohito would have formed a Trinity. But Stalin feared if he did, Hitler and Hirohito will backstab him and pick Russia apart for oil, human capital, and territories. This was a major fear for most of the War, and Stalin did not declare War on Japan until Hitler had been defeated.

Geography and supplies are the foundations of all great military campaigns. And the best fighting forces of WW2--the Germans and Japanese--were hopelessly unfortunate in both regards.

That said, if Hitler, Stalin, and Hirohito had teamed up, we'd be living in a very different planet. Imagine all of Eurasia from the Iberian Peninsula to Manchuria (China) unified under them. Nuclear weapon or not, they'll smash the United States after bleeding the peripheries of UK and Australia. After which, they'll inevitably fight each other.

-Lord
Re: Gov. by Nobody: 8:32pm On Oct 10, 2022
Reports that Tor'ske and Novosadove are liberated by Russian Armed Forces,which reopens the way for liberating Lyman as part of future operations...
Re: Gov. by paafin(m): 8:46pm On Oct 10, 2022
atmy1:
Reports that Tor'ske and Novosadove are liberated by Russian Armed Forces,which reopens the way for liberating Lyman as part of future operations...
So, Ukrainian Blitzkrieg don end las las like this grin grin
Re: Gov. by tonychristopher: 8:52pm On Oct 10, 2022
Ibime:
That small island of Japan conquered the whole of Asia and defeated Russia in the Russo-Japan war. Respect Japan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 8:53pm On Oct 10, 2022
This is what the center of Lviv looks like now.

Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 8:54pm On Oct 10, 2022
iykofias:
This is what the center of Lviv looks like now.
grin grin
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 8:54pm On Oct 10, 2022
Datguy5:
what israel have to do with this?

everything gets blamed on israel
Israel Pm Lapid earlier condemned the onslaught on Civilians.

But these Russian Ukraine war is not the main thing.
The Main war is Gonna be Russia, Iran, turkey and a host of other nations invasion of Israel.

Israel is gonna be the main focus very soon as she will step in to supply Europe.

This Ukraine war is just a child's play.
The war with Israel is the main target. Israel will be invaded by the Russia, Iran, turkey and other nations. and they will almost swallow Isreal.
GOD ALMIGHTY will personally take over and Deal with Putin and his Collation in Israel

We are getting very close to it.
Read Ezekiel 38 and 39.
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 8:54pm On Oct 10, 2022
It is reported that the troops under the command of General Lapin launched a counterattack and recaptured the settlement of Terny
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 8:55pm On Oct 10, 2022
Also today, the troops of the Central Military District and the Western Military District took Torskoye and Novosadovoe.
Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 8:57pm On Oct 10, 2022
Omo, I don fall in love with this new General o.
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 9:04pm On Oct 10, 2022
Uprightness100:
Israel Pm Lapid earlier condemn the onslaught on Civilians.

But these Russian Ukraine war is not the main thing.
The Main war is Gonna be Russia, Iran, turkey and a host of other nations invasion of Israel.

Israel is gonna be the main focus very soon as she will step in to supply Europe.

This Ukraine war is just a child's play.
The war with Israel is the main target. Israel will be invaded by the Russia Collation and they will almost swallow Isreal.
GOD ALMIGHTY will personally take over and Deal with Putin and his Collation in Israel

We are getting very close to it.
Read Ezekiel 38 and 39.
so NATO, EU and US couldn’t save Israel, but God almighty had to come to help them.

It is settled then, after God na Russia grin
Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 9:15pm On Oct 10, 2022
Datguy5:
what israel have to do with this?

everything gets blamed on israel
Did you read post at all?
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 9:16pm On Oct 10, 2022
Biden promises Ukraine's Zelensky advanced air defense systems after Russian attacks earlier today.
Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 9:20pm On Oct 10, 2022
ParasiteWest:
Abeg epp me ask am.

The US sponsored/installed 'democratic' govt in Afghanistan was defeated by the Taliban.
Where was the lend lease act?
go and read where did Taliban defeat usa i dont tire for this nairaland children sef.... tell us a battle usa lost against the Taliban
Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 9:21pm On Oct 10, 2022
Segun2222:
go and read where did Taliban defeat usa i dont tire for this nairaland children sef.... tell us a battle usa lost against the Taliban
Oga, go and read about Ashraf.
No dey disturb me with your ignorance.
Re: Gov. by Datguy5: 9:21pm On Oct 10, 2022
ParasiteWest:
Nuclear weapons used by the US was used on civilians and not military targets.
Russia could have also deployed nuclear weapons in Ukraine to reduce death (if that's the way you'll like to put it).
Stop giving me silly excuses.
actually, the USA actually warned the Japanese civilians to leave Hiroshima and Nagasaki with leaflets
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/truman-leaflets/#:~:text=Leaflets%20dropped%20on%20cities%20in,August%206%2C%201945.&text=TO%20THE%20JAPANESE%20PEOPLE%3A,we%20say%20on%20this%20leaflet.

and sadly bombing civilians was very common in ww2

Ukraine and japan in ww3 are not the same , the Japanese military was ruthless and they believed that surrendering was disgraceful, they would rather commit suicide than surrender (no joke) and even after the bombs were dropped, they were still dragging their feet. and because this mentality, they would have never surrendered without costing more lives that the bomb took
Re: Gov. by Datguy5: 9:23pm On Oct 10, 2022
olugabbie:
Did you read post at all?
yes, i did and i am still not convinced
Re: Gov. by Datguy5: 9:24pm On Oct 10, 2022
Uprightness100:
Israel Pm Lapid earlier condemned the onslaught on Civilians.

But these Russian Ukraine war is not the main thing.
The Main war is Gonna be Russia, Iran, turkey and a host of other nations invasion of Israel.

Israel is gonna be the main focus very soon as she will step in to supply Europe.

This Ukraine war is just a child's play.
The war with Israel is the main target. Israel will be invaded by the Russia, Iran, turkey and other nations. and they will almost swallow Isreal.
GOD ALMIGHTY will personally take over and Deal with Putin and his Collation in Israel

We are getting very close to it.
Read Ezekiel 38 and 39.
huh
Re: Gov. by ParasiteWest: 9:25pm On Oct 10, 2022
Datguy5:
actually, the USA actually warned the Japanese civilians to leave Hiroshima and Nagasaki with leaflets
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/truman-leaflets/#:~:text=Leaflets%20dropped%20on%20cities%20in,August%206%2C%201945.&text=TO%20THE%20JAPANESE%20PEOPLE%3A,we%20say%20on%20this%20leaflet.

and sadly bombing civilians was very common in ww2

Ukraine and japan in ww3 are not the same , the Japanese military was ruthless and they believed that surrendering was disgraceful, they would rather commit suicide than surrender (no joke) and even after the bombs were dropped, they were still dragging their feet. and because this mentality, they would have never surrendered without costing more lives that the bomb took
What's your point exactly.
As far as I'm concerned, the US was unable to defeat Japan.
The US was on the verge of defeat until nuclear weapons were deployed.
The US was able to obtain this nuclear weapon technology as a result of the Soviet/Russian victory over the Germans.
Russia saved the world from Nazism.
The Japs had miscalculated and felt the Germans would prevail over the Russians.
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