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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:14am On Oct 16, 2022
ProblemChild1:
Don't be surprised bro, in infrastructure wise Windhoek maybe more developed than east Africa grin
What about the zoo? No pictures.. tongue
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:14am On Oct 16, 2022
I have my doubt of scrapped vessels and special purpose ships data - otherwise it clear Nigeria main exports are natural resources - that have least multiplier - and ability to lift people out of poverty.

Kenya is doing well in horticulture - with multiplier as good as manufacturing - IT enabled services (outsourcing), tourism - that have huge potentially to transform the economy. This should be the focus - the high value agriculture (avacados earn Mexico 12billion dollars), IT-enabled outsourcing system- exports as good as selling machine abroad- (digital economy with investment in fiber all over the country) - tourism - high value services - as traditional manufacturing is a mountain to climb for now

That is why Kenya has been pulling economic growth almost non stop for 20yrs - while Nigeria is struggling - 10yrs of recession and now even with Oil at it peak - it appears the anemic growth rate will continue.

When this kenya v Nigeria started - somewhere in 2014/2015 - Kenya economy was barely 40B - Nigeria was 500B. Now Kenya economy has climbed - this year could be 120B - Nigeria economy osciallate btw 400-500B for a decade - and if they devalue the Naira - it will drop to even 200B.

Nigeria economy need serious re-configuration - that ought to start with fixing education sector - otherwise I dont see much hope - with pre-mature urbanization (at 50 percent) - endemic poverty in slumpolis - and total collapse of basic infrastructure (electricity is now a miracle)

In the meantime kenya economy is transforming - and in a decade - will have caught up with Nigeria and South Africa - who are mark timming btw 350-500B - depending on USD. Both have had a lost decade.


GeneralDae:
These are Kenyan top exports in 2021.
Horticulture and tea are Kenya's leading exporting items. In 2021, the country earned over 165 billion Kenyan shillings (KSh), approximately 1.4 billion U.S. dollars, with horticultural products exports. Tea exports generated nearly 131 billion KSh (1.1 billion U.S. dollars). Coffee as well as apparel and clothing also ranked as Kenya's main exports.

These were Nigerian main exports 2021

The top exports of Nigeria are Crude Petroleum ($30B), Petroleum Gas ($5.89B), Scrap Vessels ($1.29B), Special Purpose Ships ($775M), and Refined Petroleum ($613M), exporting mostly to India ($6.27B), Spain ($4.8B), China ($2.54B), Netherlands ($2.24B), and South Africa ($2.17B).

In 2020, Nigeria was the world's biggest exporter of Scrap Vessels ($1.29B)
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:17am On Oct 16, 2022
gallivant:
Do you think a country can industrialize without power? Try crawling before walking.
Top ten exports of Nigeria 2021

1)Mineral fuels including oil: US$42.4 billion (89.1% of total exports)
2)Ships, boats: $1.4 billion (3%)
3)Fertilizers: $949.8 million (2%)
4)Cocoa: $628.8 million (1.3%)
5)Oil seeds: $326.2 million (0.7%)
6)Zinc: $258.8 million (0.5%)
7)Aluminum: $190.3 million (0.4%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft: $143.7 million (0.3%)
9)Tobacco, manufactured substitutes: $112.8 million (0.2%)
10)Lead: $94.1 million (0.2%)


You can see Ships, Boats, Aircrafts, Spacecrafts, all together at a value more than your top export Horticulture which is 1.4 Billion dollars.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:20am On Oct 16, 2022
Great answer. At least we can say your industry is green, powered by alternative means of energy!!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:20am On Oct 16, 2022
And you believe Nigeria export spaceships, aircrafts and ships to Spain. Some of that data is crazy. Nigeria made aircraft - what it's the name INNOSON.
GeneralDae:
Top ten exports of Nigeria 2021

1)Mineral fuels including oil: US$42.4 billion (89.1% of total exports)
2)Ships, boats: $1.4 billion (3%)
3)Fertilizers: $949.8 million (2%)
4)Cocoa: $628.8 million (1.3%)
5)Oil seeds: $326.2 million (0.7%)
6)Zinc: $258.8 million (0.5%)
7)Aluminum: $190.3 million (0.4%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft: $143.7 million (0.3%)
9)Tobacco, manufactured substitutes: $112.8 million (0.2%)
10)Lead: $94.1 million (0.2%)


You can see Ships, Boats, Aircrafts, Spacecrafts, all together at a value more than your top export Horticulture at 1.4 Billion dollars.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:22am On Oct 16, 2022
rvp20182:
I have my doubt of scrapped vessels and special purpose ships data - otherwise it clear Nigeria main exports are natural resources - that have least multiplier - and ability to lift people out of poverty.

Kenya is doing well in horticulture - with multiplier as good as manufacturing - IT enabled services (outsourcing), tourism - that have huge potentially to transform the economy. This should be the focus - the high value agriculture (avacados earn Mexico 12billion dollars), IT-enabled outsourcing system- exports as good as selling machine abroad- (digital economy with investment in fiber all over the country) - tourism - high value services - as traditional manufacturing is a mountain to climb for now

That is why Kenya has been pulling economic growth almost non stop for 20yrs - while Nigeria is struggling - 10yrs of recession and now even with Oil at it peak - it appears the anemic growth rate will continue.

When this kenya v Nigeria started - somewhere in 2014/2015 - Kenya economy was barely 40B - Nigeria was 500B. Now Kenya economy has climbed - this year could be 120B - Nigeria economy osciallate btw 400-500B for a decade - and if they devalue the Naira - it will drop to even 200B.

Nigeria economy need serious re-configuration - that ought to start with fixing education sector - otherwise I dont see much hope - with pre-mature urbanization (at 50 percent) - endemic poverty in slumpolis - and total collapse of basic infrastructure (electricity is now a miracle)

In the meantime kenya economy is transforming - and in a decade - will have caught up with Nigeria and South Africa - who are mark timming btw 350-500B - depending on USD. Both have had a lost decade.
You are just blabbing. I gave you facts. Our exports from ships, boats, scrap vessels and Aircrafts are more than your top export Horticulture.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:23am On Oct 16, 2022
Only a demented fool would believe such data.
Nigeria export aircrafts smiley smiley
Facts is Nigeria economy been sick
Now even with peak oil prices - it even sicker.
Kenya economy is firing on all cylinders.
And we are just starting.
GeneralDae:
You are just blabbing. I gave you facts. Our exports from ships, boats, scrap vessels and Aircrafts are more than your top export Horticulture.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:24am On Oct 16, 2022
rvp20182:
And you believe Nigeria export spaceships, aircrafts and ships to Spain. Some of that data is crazy. Nigeria made aircraft - what it's the name INNOSON.
Lmao!!

grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:25am On Oct 16, 2022
No pilot will accept to fly a made in Nigeria aircraft even with a parachoute - even for a training purpose. That is pure suicide. Not even spare part made in Nigeria will be allowed in any aeroplane.
gallivant:
Lmao!!

grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:30am On Oct 16, 2022
rvp20182:
No pilot will accept to fly a made in Nigeria aircraft even with a parachoute - even for a training purpose. That is pure suicide. Not even spare part made in Nigeria will be allowed in any aeroplane.
Okay I know it's a long shot, but maybe there's a kamikaze aircraft market out there that Nigerians have discovered!! grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:30am On Oct 16, 2022
rvp20182:
And you believe Nigeria export spaceships, aircrafts and ships to Spain. Some of that data is crazy. Nigeria made aircraft - what it's the name INNOSON.
I don't have to believe it, I amongst others reported the news when it was happening.
There are boat manufacturing firms in Lagos and they are in the process of making electric boats at the moment. They invited already the electric bus manufacturer in Borno State to Lagos to collaborate for electric boats.
Also why should anyone believe you and discard trading economics and all top data sources that reports thesame thing about Nigerian exports?

https://tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/exports/italy/ships-boats-floating-structures
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 10:37am On Oct 16, 2022
gallivant:
Now show us Enugu...
Enugu is far more developed and greenery than anywhere In your zoo
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:38am On Oct 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Only a demented fool would believe such data.
Nigeria export aircrafts smiley smiley
Facts is Nigeria economy been sick
Now even with peak oil prices - it even sicker.
Kenya economy is firing on all cylinders.
And we are just starting.
Nigeria has Boat and Ship building manufacturing bases.
Nigeria does not have a full Aircraft manufacturing base yet but works are about to begin in Osun state Nigeria. However, Nigeria have been exporting Aircraft vessels and parts from way back even before 2015. It's only growing at the moment and hence became one of the top exports.

Nigeria Exports: Vehicles, Aircraft and Parts Thereof, Vessels data was reported at 82,360.760 NGN mn in 2017. This records an increase from the previous number of 87.250 NGN mn for 2016. Nigeria Exports: Vehicles, Aircraft and Parts Thereof, Vessels data is updated yearly, averaging 85,357.900 NGN mn from Dec 2003 to 2017, with 15 observations. The data reached an all-time high of 681,574.848 NGN mn in 2015 and a record low of 87.250 NGN mn in 2016. Nigeria Exports: Vehicles, Aircraft and Parts Thereof, Vessels data remains active status in CEIC and is reported by National Bureau of Statistics of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. The data is categorized under Global Database’s Nigeria – Table NG.JA007: Exports: by Commodity.

View Nigeria's Nigeria


https://www.ceicdata.com/en/nigeria/exports-by-commodity/exports-vehicles-aircraft-and-parts-thereof-vessels
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 10:38am On Oct 16, 2022
gallivant:
What about the zoo? No pictures.. tongue
It has been posted here countless time. Nigeria is still more developed than your smelly Zoo tongue grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:47am On Oct 16, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 10:47am On Oct 16, 2022
GeneralDae:
Nigeria's top ten exports 2021

1)Mineral fuels including oil: US$42.4 billion (89.1% of total exports)
2)Ships, boats: $1.4 billion (3%)
3)Fertilizers: $949.8 million (2%)
4)Cocoa: $628.8 million (1.3%)
5)Oil seeds: $326.2 million (0.7%)
6)Zinc: $258.8 million (0.5%)
7)Aluminum: $190.3 million (0.4%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft: $143.7 million (0.3%)
9)Tobacco, manufactured substitutes: $112.8 million (0.2%)
10)Lead: $94.1 million (0.2%)
I'm curious, when did we start manufacturing special purpose ships, and Aircrafts?? huh For exports
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:54am On Oct 16, 2022
Fourpockets:
I'm curious, when did we start manufacturing special purpose ships, and Aircrafts?? huh For exports
We started a long time ago. By the time we also start exporting electric buses and vehicles to African countries nearby, or we start exporting other manufactured equipments from Proforce, Nord, Innoson, and the likes, many would also ask: "When did we start manufacturing these things"?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 10:54am On Oct 16, 2022
rvp20182:
I have my doubt of scrapped vessels and special purpose ships data - otherwise it clear Nigeria main exports are natural resources - that have least multiplier - and ability to lift people out of poverty.

Kenya is doing well in horticulture - with multiplier as good as manufacturing - IT enabled services (outsourcing), tourism - that have huge potentially to transform the economy. This should be the focus - the high value agriculture (avacados earn Mexico 12billion dollars), IT-enabled outsourcing system- exports as good as selling machine abroad- (digital economy with investment in fiber all over the country) - tourism - high value services - as traditional manufacturing is a mountain to climb for now

That is why Kenya has been pulling economic growth almost non stop for 20yrs - while Nigeria is struggling - 10yrs of recession and now even with Oil at it peak - it appears the anemic growth rate will continue.

When this kenya v Nigeria started - somewhere in 2014/2015 - Kenya economy was barely 40B - Nigeria was 500B. Now Kenya economy has climbed - this year could be 120B - Nigeria economy osciallate btw 400-500B for a decade - and if they devalue the Naira - it will drop to even 200B.

Nigeria economy need serious re-configuration - that ought to start with fixing education sector - otherwise I dont see much hope - with pre-mature urbanization (at 50 percent) - endemic poverty in slumpolis - and total collapse of basic infrastructure (electricity is now a miracle)

In the meantime kenya economy is transforming - and in a decade - will have caught up with Nigeria and South Africa - who are mark timming btw 350-500B - depending on USD. Both have had a lost decade.
When it comes to IT outsourcing, Nigeria is tops in Africa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:55am On Oct 16, 2022
[quote author=AfriqueDuZuid post=117602348] the comments on the video? Pray for Nigerians.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 10:57am On Oct 16, 2022
GeneralDae:
We started a long time ago. By the time we also start exporting electric buses and vehicles to African countries nearby, or we start exporting other manufactured equipments from Proforce, Nord, Innoson, and the likes, many would also ask: "When did we start manufacturing these things"?
I know about innoson and proforce military vehicles, but I don't know anything about aircrafts can you give me companies that manufacture tgem
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:58am On Oct 16, 2022
Fourpockets:
When it comes to IT sourcing, Nigeria is tops in Africa.
There is nothing they do, Nigeria does not do. I wonder where this belief comes from, that Kenya's economy is based on manufacturing than other economies moreso Nigeria simply because the world knows us for crude oil.

As you see, Kenya's top export is Horticulture at 1.4 Billion dollars while Nigerian exports from Ships and Boats equal their top export. This means, even if there was no export of crude oil and gas, Nigerian exports alone from Aircraft vessel parts, Ships, Boats, alone at 1.53 Billion dollars exceeds Kenyan export of flowers at 1.4 Billion dollars (their top export).
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 10:58am On Oct 16, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:
Namibia gdp is $10 billion for 3 million people and Rwanda for 13 million

Even in terms of built infrastructure Namibia is far ahead.... Heck Rwanda will not be compared to any southern African country its disrespect

HDI is very vague it does not factor in infrastructure
Do you have hearing impairments, glaucoma, Or are you not just attentive? My point was GHANA is better than Namibia. Since you brought Rwanda, we can also go with it.

Rwanda just plucked itself from an economic quagmire, windhoek and Namibia at large were enjoying the fruits of the imperial German army. Even to date, majority of Nice places are owned by Germans - who have built namibia from scratch.

If you check current Namibia and weigh dev dynamics; you'll notice that Rwanda is way ahead in progress.

Don't assume I don't know HDI. I can school you on that. If you are to drop pointers, don't cherry-pick. Start from human development then go to infrastructure as you go to economy.... That way, we will know how to weigh and give points.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:03am On Oct 16, 2022
ProblemChild1:
Chill bro, this is Windhoek, Namibia. Far more developed than anywhere in Rwanda.
My guy, even the people crossing the roads are germans. Everything in this city is all about boer and whatnot. Rwanda is pure Wakanda nation. Black skin at work. All credit to kagame.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:05am On Oct 16, 2022
ProblemChild1:
Don't be surprised bro, in infrastructure wise Windhoek maybe more developed than east Africa grin
Are you sarcastic or you're abusing drugs, my G? cheesy
Lemme help you with quality pics from Rwanda.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:08am On Oct 16, 2022
Shma2022:
Do you have hearing impairments, glaucoma, Or are you not just attentive? My point was GHANA is better than Namibia. Since you brought Rwanda, we can also go with it.

Rwanda just plucked itself from an economic quagmire, windhoek and Namibia at large were enjoying the fruits of the imperial German army. Even to date, majority of Nice places are owned by Germans - who have built namibia from scratch.

If you check current Namibia and weigh dev dynamics; you'll notice that Rwanda is way ahead in progress.

Don't assume I don't know HDI. I can school you on that. If you are to drop pointers, don't cherry-pick. Start from human development then go to infrastructure as you go to economy.... That way, we will know how to weigh and give points.
If you really wanna compare Namibia and Rwanda you are really beyond repair
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 11:09am On Oct 16, 2022
Fourpockets:
I know about innoson and proforce military vehicles, but I don't know anything about aircrafts can you give me companies that manufacture tgem
Nigerian Navy makes a lot of things especially in this Buhari's Government.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZf68tgxNHI
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:12am On Oct 16, 2022
Shma2022:
Are you sarcastic or you're abusing drugs, my G? cheesy
Lemme help you with quality pics from Rwanda.
different angles from same place

Convention center and its surrounding buildings

+ the failed estate vision city
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:12am On Oct 16, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:
If you really wanna compare Namibia and Rwanda you are really beyond repair
I'm comparing Namibia with Ghana.
Also, Rwanda and Namibia are pretty much comparable. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:13am On Oct 16, 2022
Shma2022:
I'm comparing Namibia with Ghana.
Also, Rwanda and Namibia are pretty much comparable. cool
Theres no comparison here
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:14am On Oct 16, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:
different angles from same place

Convention center and its surrounding buildings

+ the failed estate vision city
I never told you to analyze my pics. Post yours and let's weigh.
German city vs Rwanda city cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:15am On Oct 16, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:
Theres no comparison here
There is.
E.g, Rwanda Is predominantly dominated by germans, while Rwanda is majorly dominated by black Rwandese.
Rwanda has 10m population, while mini German has 3m
Rwanda has $10B economy, while mini Germany has $10B economy( hence twins)
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 11:16am On Oct 16, 2022
Fourpockets:
I know about innoson and proforce military vehicles, but I don't know anything about aircrafts can you give me companies that manufacture tgem
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