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Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by BeardedMeat(m): 7:28am On Oct 17, 2022
austinvsb:
I guess there is no reasoning with you extremists is there?!! An A P C chieftain said that!!!

Obasanjo is the biggest political figure behind Obi in Nigeria!!! Afenifere leaders and OPC have declared for Obi. This are prominent Yoruba leaders and groups but people like you keep doing your damnedest to malign Yorubas like me trying to support Obi while still applying common-sense!

Rather than be advocates, you lots are starting to turn to Obi's biggest enemy going into the election.
Abegiiiii

Was Obi ever your friend? Even without offending you, were you ever going to change your mind?
Is there anything that would ever make you vote for him even if he was the only choice?

Please face the your unenviable and difficult task of packaging the unelectable push and start candidate you support and stop displaying horse poo here.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by udemzyudex(m): 7:34am On Oct 17, 2022
When it comes to throwing jabs this old man is really good at doing that but tell him to tell us what he has to offer, that's when he will start calling maize and corn,rotten and bad in the same sentence.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Jking20(m): 7:35am On Oct 17, 2022
Have no much to say...
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by PassingShot(m): 7:37am On Oct 17, 2022
Honjoshy4u:
Saying it is yoruba turn is wrong Oga.
The west has enjoyed 8years president with OBJ and 8 years V.P with Osinbajo.
What happens to the other part of south??
He was absolutely right to say it's Yoruba turn in APC because that is the party he and other Yoruba politicians have invested in. Other part of the south should lay such claim in a party they have invested their politics in over the decades.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by alimiadedayo1: 7:40am On Oct 17, 2022
stanluiz:
Which wike ticket ? Does PDP belongs to wike ?
this statement is disgusting
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by teepain: 7:44am On Oct 17, 2022
Honjoshy4u:
It is tribalistic... Go and watch the full video.
He said 'it is yoruba turn, it is my turn'
Na Tinubu start am
I do not believe that Tinubu's statement was meant to be tribalistic and I say this advisedly. If you look at the context in which he made the statement, it was before his party's primaries.

Now, I believe that there were agreements that Buhari, Tinubu and other major players entered into before forming APC. If one of the agreements was that APC will field Tinubu as it's candidate after Buhari's tenure then it was well within his right to have requested for adherence to that agreement from his party: at least in his shoes, I or any other person would have requested for same.

However the agreement to field Tinubu by APC, even if it was pre-agreed can only be enforced in the party's primaries.

Having emerged as APC's flag-bearer, I am sure that Tinubu cannot use that statement because he had no such pact with Nigerians. He has to now slug it out with other contestants and I am sure he knows that.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by IfnobeGod20(m):
Myer:
Your comprehension is very juvenile.

1. First It's not awa lokan (obviously that's how you spread fake news everywhere).
It's Emi lokan.
A specific reminder to those he has helped to become stalwarts in the political architecture of Nigeria.
Not tribalistic but monolithic.

2. He understands Nigerian politics better than Peter Obi who is politically juvenile.
As cerebral as PO is he doesn't understand politics. So if he were to win the election, they'll frustrate the he'll out of him and make him underperform.

3. His point is plain and simple, Atiku has no business contesting in this election. Since there's an unwritten rule that the presidency should be rotated. Legally that's what Federal Character is. How can the incumbent be a Northerner and the next successor also be a Northerner in a diverse country like ours?

When you add all this together, one thing becomes evident.
Northerners have always known how to divide Yoruba and Igbo while the South South is the middle ground.
I just hope we have sense this time around.

Easterners obviously will give their block votes to PO.
Yorubas will also give their votes to Tinubu (not block votes).
Guess what? Atiku might end up winning cos Northerners are always united when it comes to election.
From your comment I see that you're very enlightened and you never allow emotions to override your sense of judgement.
In that faithful day in Abeokuta, Tinubu used different words and it wasn't only Emi lokan he used. He furiously used different words aside the one you quoted. He said, awa lokan, Yoruba lokan, mo ti Po awon omo won oti to, emi lokan, yoruba lokan. He angrily used those words interchangeably.
Let me quickly dispel this your notion. Nigerians have over dependent on people that are verse in politics and they've taken us for a ride too long. Developed nation are etching for technocrats to manage their system and not politicians. We give them too much room and they are taken us for granted. We even allow the national assembly to get away with it by playing politics with issues that can save the nation. In advanced system, when election is won, politicians leave behind politic and take up the building of the nation by being patriotic and give selfless service to their nation but the case is reverse in Nigeria. Meaning, we have given them too much space to play politics with our national life and it has not paid off for the country.

On the issue of Atiku. No doubt the presidency should by moral come to the south but Atiku claim is that the last president of PDP comes from the south, which by standard he has a point, since it is not a constitutional issue. It is just unwritten agreement and only PDP has it in their constitution that it should be rotated between south and north. And the last president in their party is from the south but morally speaking since the present president is from the north, he should have just looked at it at that angle and let go.
Meanwhile, let us now go to the south that the agitation favours. If by equity, equality, sincerity and oneness as to strengthen unity, the slot should have gone to south east for equity and justice with fairness because south west had had uninterrupted 8 years as president and over 7 years now as vice president. The south South had had 6 years president and over 2 years as vice president. The only zone remaining is the south east. So fairness demand that some one like Tinubu should have canvassed for a candidate fro the region during presidential primary because it is said that he that comes to equity should come with clean hand. Tinubu doesn't come to equity with clean hand but soiled hand.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Topmaike007(m): 8:01am On Oct 17, 2022
ProfOkai:
Hia! Who is a lesser evil now between you two?
OGA me I like Tinubu pass this man oo
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Opolopoopolonio: 8:23am On Oct 17, 2022
Bobbiee:
Yes, another Fulani Northerner is better than a Yoruba tibal bigot. Like, do you need to be a rocket scientist to know that the Igbo people need to have their shot at being president since they haven't had a chance to do that since 1960s?
No, it is not.

It will not happen.

Peter Obi is running. Vote for him... cool grin
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by GEEBITE: 8:49am On Oct 17, 2022
Because APC is a Namibian party right? Failed attempt at contextualising.
Eniitankorede:
Emilokan in APC is different from Emilokan in Nigeria. They are two different things. Don’t mix them up.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by TUTU147: 8:52am On Oct 17, 2022
Think9ja:
South should vote their candidate

North should vote their candidate

Then let's see who will emerge as president.

How is that difficult to accept?

AtiKowa 2023
Them north should control their resources and south control theirs.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by GEEBITE: 8:55am On Oct 17, 2022
Brilliant submission from a fertile mind. However,please let us always keep the facts right and accurate. GEJ was president from May 2010 to May 2015. It was the propaganda used by APC thar you too is sustaining here.
IfnobeGod20:
From your comment I see that you're very enlightened and you never allow emotions to override your sense of judgement.
In that faithful day in Abeokuta, Tinubu used different words and it wasn't only Emi lokan he used. He furiously used different words aside the one you quoted. He said, awa lokan, Yoruba lokan, mo ti Po awon omo won oti to, emi lokan, yoruba lokan. He angrily used those words interchangeably.
Let me quickly dispel this your notion. Nigerians have over dependent on people that are verse in politics and they've taken us for a ride too long. Developed nation are etching for technocrats to manage their system and not politicians. We give them too much room and they are taken us for granted. We even allow the national assembly to get away with it by playing politics with issues that can save the nation. In advanced system, when election is won, politicians leave behind politic and take up the building of the nation by being patriotic and give selfless service to their nation but the case is reverse in Nigeria. Meaning, we have given them too much space to play politics with our national life and it has not paid off for the country.

On the issue of Atiku. No doubt the presidency should by moral come to the south but Atiku claim is that the last president of PDP comes from the south, which by standard he has a point, since it is not a constitutional issue. It is just unwritten agreement and only PDP has it in their constitution that it should be rotated between south and north. And the last president in their party is from the south but morally speaking since the present president is from the north, he should have just looked at it at that angle and let go.
Meanwhile, let us now go to the south that the agitation favours. If by equity, equality, sincerity and oneness as to strengthen unity, the slot should have gone to south east for equity and justice with fairness because south west had had interrupted 8 years as president and over 7 years now as vice president. The south South had had 6 years president and over 2 years as vice president. The only zone remaining is the south east. So fairness demand that some one like Tinubu should have canvassed for a candidate fro the region during presidential primary because it is said that he that comes to equity should come with clean hand. Tinubu doesn't come to equity with clean hand but soiled hand.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Cullinane: 8:59am On Oct 17, 2022
DadaHammed:
The phrase 'awa lokan'...yoruba lokan' is full of tribalism.
I went to university in Yorubaland and I know from firsthand experience that Yorubas are the most tribalistic tribe in Nigeria. No difference between A-THIEF-KU and THIEF-NUBU.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by MikoB: 9:13am On Oct 17, 2022
ufotunang:
.ok no problem... you said you do not have candidate...but what about Peter obi... can't you support him for presidency ?
He cannot win, because the election is going to be won in the core North and Obi has no chance there, that is the reality on ground.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by IfnobeGod20(m): 9:13am On Oct 17, 2022
GEEBITE:
Brilliant submission from a fertile mind. However,please let us always keep the facts right and accurate. GEJ was president from May 2010 to May 2015. It was the propaganda used by APC thar you too is sustaining here.
Jonathan became Acting President on the 9th February, 2010 and became a substantive President on the 6th May, 2010. That's 5 years and few months of his reign. I don't support APC lie and I will never support them even in dream.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by IfnobeGod20(m): 9:17am On Oct 17, 2022
MikoB:
He cannot win, because the election is going to be won in the core North and Obi has no chance there, that is the reality on ground.
Don't carry defeatist mentality. Do your part and leave the rest.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by oyatz(m): 9:18am On Oct 17, 2022
DadaHammed:
The phrase 'awa lokan'...yoruba lokan' is full of tribalism.
But Tinubu didn't say that.

Tinubu was talking to a caucus of his supporters reminding them on how he was good to them and the need for them to reciprocate the gesture.

Emi'lokan is refers to a PERSON not Yoruba as a tribe.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Nobody: 9:39am On Oct 17, 2022
DadaHammed:
'awa lokan'...Yoruba lokan' is tribalistic.
When and where did Tinubu made this statement?

Till now, nobody has answered me.

I only know of Emi lokan which everybody knows. I asked you the question and threw it open to estimated 2 million nairaland members. I am yet to get a response.

I asked the question after I diligently found out you are an IBO contrary to your profile name Dada Hammed.

I spent 6 years in a Federal University in IBO land several years ago and I know how shallow minded and retrogressive they are when it comes to thinking pattern. The worst thing is that nobody on earth can correct them even in the presence of open fact and truth and they prefer to die in their illusion. That is what happened during Biafra and of recent at Owerri when they killed Gulak and Kyari was sent there to deal with ESN.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by EmmyCC: 9:48am On Oct 17, 2022
olas24u:
That was not democracy that is what am telling you.its a different one
What is democracy? Define it.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by King3urna(m): 9:52am On Oct 17, 2022
Righthussle:
See Atiku wey no even be original Nigerian. Jagaban, dont mind the fool. Let him waste some of his ill gotten money. Just that Wike no wan calm down chop him money and still support a SOUTHERNER codedly just as Udom and Diri go do.

How will a northerner take over from another northerner in a COUNTRY like Nigeria.

Something the Atiku will never allow the south even think off.


Buhari beta pass Atiku by 101%
Would your jagaban like MM ticket as well oga they all the same if them ask you now for south who’s to be president you will say Yoruba then what’s the difference between atiku and tinunbu
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Kagd10: 9:58am On Oct 17, 2022
IfnobeGod20:
See the way you're rewriting history that is less than 12 years. We still know those that pushed for doctrine of necessity when Yar'adu died. Mr. Man, Tinubu wasn't part of them. Tunde Bakare, Dr. Joe Odunmakin and Wole Soyinka were at the forefront of Save Nigeria Group.
Read below how the doctrine of necessity was marshalled to fruition.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2011/12/13/how-president-jonathan-became-acting-president-in-2010-yar%25E2%2580%2599adua-adviser/%3famp=1

You can read further here those that mounted pressure on the national assembly and those that held protest for doctrine of necessity to be adhere to.

https://www.thehistoryville.com/yaradua-jonathan-doctrine-of-necessity/

Tinubu was just in his cocoon all through the episode.

Please us any gathering that Tinubu was part of them to invoke the doctrine of necessity for Jonathan to assume power as acting president.
Oodeee. Point is Tinubu didn't oppose it and even canvassed for Jonathan in 2011 despite the fact that Jona was an ingrate to Yoruba and Tinubu had no obligation to canvass for him since he's not a Pdp man yet he did. But Jona remained an ingrate to the Yoruba and besides, he wasn't performing well. Meanwhile how many years did you expect him to spend? Another 4 years after spending 6 years? Especially when he wasn't performing well?

On the other hand, Atiku had never supported Jona despite that he was a Pdp man then. He rather left the party cos he believed it was the Northerner time at that time but came back just to steal ticket in Pdp yet it's Tinubu you're crying about? You're a patheticc loserrr.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Crvrider: 9:59am On Oct 17, 2022
aminulive:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM


https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-atiku-is-a-tribal-jingoist-tinubu/
Jingle bells...and it is not even Xmas yet.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Felabrity: 10:03am On Oct 17, 2022
ribbit:
person.

If you don't know the meaning of emilokan, go and ask your fathers at home.
bst
Make I help you with translation as you no go school

Fuu

Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by iwaeda: 10:09am On Oct 17, 2022
TolaniLuv:
How can you steal what belongs to you?? Mad man

Osinbajo should be ashamed of hmself . I know for sure, that Tinubu gave him the position of VP. Which he knew that Tinubu will be the flag bearer for APC that was the deal. Never outshine your master
You mean the rottener to badest situation grin grin
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by danhans(m): 10:10am On Oct 17, 2022
Is he a PDP member
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Microwhy: 10:12am On Oct 17, 2022
CheapHomes1:
why are you blaming PDP for tinubus decision to pick shettima? this is how APC and folks like you blamed PDP for buharis failures to the point that you guys ran out of things to blame PDP for
You know very well how the game played out.
PDP betrayed the southerner who thought the informal agreement would be respected by all political parties and the next president will be from the South.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Kagd10: 10:12am On Oct 17, 2022
EmmyCC:
Tinubu's party fielded 'Atiku' in 2011 and that's what we know. Tinubu supported 'Atiku' in 2011 then Buhari in 2015. Igbos took the forefront in GEJ being president.
When did Tinubu field Atiku in 2011? You and lies. You dey mad? Point is Tinubu supported Jona in 2011 even when he had no obligation to do that. You dey mad.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by ribbit: 10:15am On Oct 17, 2022
Felabrity:
bst
Make I help you with translation as you no go school

Fuu
werey don't even know how to do proper photoshop


Does that picture look real to you?

Braindead zombidient.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by sterlingD(m): 10:16am On Oct 17, 2022
These contestants should try to tune down their rhetorics and align it with the peace accord as much as possible. The amber that they are fanning is unhealthy with reference to the current situation bedeviling this country.
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by olas24u(f): 10:21am On Oct 17, 2022
EmmyCC:
What is democracy? Define it.
Western democracy is different from native intelligence of ethnic Africans .e.g do you do 4year tenure?it's a western idea .
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by olas24u(f): 10:25am On Oct 17, 2022
EmmyCC:
What is democracy? Define it.
Yorubas had obas ,obas had chiefs and we had iyalode who represents women. We have the chief of army staff etc.what about you?Do you respect women?
Re: Atiku Is A Tribal Jingoist, Stole PDP Ticket From South - Tinubu by Oksman(m): 10:29am On Oct 17, 2022
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM

The Presidential Candidate of the All Progressives Congress, APC, Bola Ahmed Tinubu has said that the 2023 Presidential Candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, Atiku Abubakar is a 'Tribal Jingoist'.

Tinubu's comment is coming a day after footage of Atiku campaigning in the North went viral on social media.

The Adamawa born politician was heard telling Party faithful that the North does not need a Yoruba or an Igbo President only a Northern one. The video has drawn widespread condemnation.

Tinubu, in a statement on Sunday, signed by his Director, Media and Publicity, Bayo Onanuga, added that Atiku's 'Tribalism' was the reason why the PDP was in crisis. He stated that Atiku has refused to persuade the national chairman of the PDP, Iyorchia Ayu to resign because he is also from the North.

The PDP's zoning arrangement stipulates that if the Party chairman is from the North, the Presidential candidate will come from the South.

This is the reason why Rivers state governor, Nyesom Wike alongside 4 other governors have refused to participate in Atiku's campaign.

The statement read; "The statement of Peoples Democratic Party's presidential candidate, Alhaji Abubakar Atiku to the effect that Northerners don't need a Yoruba or Igbo president is the worst expression of ethnocentric opportunism ever uttered by a former Nigerian Vice President."

"This clearly demonstrates how low a man honoured with the second highest office of the Nigerian Constitution is willing to sink in search of a perennial wild goose chase after the highest office in the land. It confirms the argument that Atiku has feasted on such base, cheap, primordial sentiments to use the masses and the elite of the North as the ladder to ascend to power since 1989 without any dividends to show."

"Doubling down in his now infamous speech, Atiku said: “What the average Northerner needs is somebody who is from the north and also understands that part of the country and has been able to build bridges across the country."

“This is what the Northerner needs, it doesn’t need a Yoruba or Igbo candidate. I stand before you as a Pan-Nigerian of northern origin.”

"In clear terms, Atiku who stole the PDP ticket, by a similar mindset, has cast himself as a northern candidate, who should solely be supported by the people from his region. We view Atiku's public declaration which framed him as an ethnic and regional champion as unbecoming for a man who was once a Vice-President of Nigeria."

"But we are not surprised by his desperate position. Atiku has resorted to whipping up ethnic sentiments, knowing that his chances of being elected have become a mirage.He has himself, not anybody else, to blame for his expected electoral misfortune. First, he broke the fundamental rules of power rotation in his party and the country."

"As if this cardinal sin was not enough, the PDP candidate has remained defiant in the face of pressure by preserving the two topmost posts in his party for people from his region. The Nigerian public now know better that a man who has been campaigning as a so-called unifier of our disparate groups, is a tribal jingoist, who has now totally eviscerated all pretensions to being a detribalised Nigerian."

"He is demonstrably the anti-thesis of a pan-Nigerian politician. Nigerians of goodwill, who, daily, seek a united and prosperous nation, should reject Atiku and his party at the polls next February."

"Atiku only pays lip service to national unity, despite that it features as one of the 5 cardinal points of his so-called "Covenant with Nigerians". The facade is over, he is now fully naked before the Nigerian people."
https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-atiku-is-a-tribal-jingoist-tinubu/




aminulive:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM


https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-atiku-is-a-tribal-jingoist-tinubu/
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