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maxwell530:
Everything Messi won more than Ronaldo become irrelevant... Very confused and bitter set of people.
Messi won more la Liga, the La Liga immediately lose its value
Immediately Messi got his 6th Balon D'Or, the award lose it's credible and value
Copa America trophies lose its relevance the moment Messi won it even tho it was used to taunt him for 15 years
6 European Golden shoes Became irrelevant and what every dick and Harry could've done the moment Messi have more than Ronaldo.
91 goals now turn to the easy feat Haaland will break because it involves Messi but none of them ever talked about Ronaldo 3 EPL hat tricks in 8 years which Haaland broke in 10 games. None of them is talking of 17 goals in UCL which Haaland might be breaking too, since Haaland scored 10 UCL goals twice playing for Salzburg and Dortmund, he will score 20 for Man City, according to that fanatic called Beverlyjean

U really don't know how stats work...halland has 5 goals after round 4 in the CL ...how do u expect him to break Ronaldo's 11 group stage goals... stats shows halland will do 8 or 9 goals after the group... scoring in the knockout part is the hardest thing to do... Ronaldo also has that record... Lewandowski , Benzema ,salah and ur Messi all tried but failed ... for Haaland to break it... he needs to get to the final and most likely have to win it to score 17 goals... Ronaldo is first with 17 goals , Ronaldo is 2nd with 16 goals , Ronaldo is joint 3rd along with Lewandowski and Benzema with 15 goals ... a record he set... champions league is not Local Laliga ...its the champions of the champions

blueAgent:
We're is the evidence?

Mike obi or Ihenecho?

comparing a whole continent of europeans whose major occupation is in sport with two people who went away in search of greener pastures? even secondary school students are easily more talented than most first team players just that not everyone have the luxury of moving abroad

So if haaland score hatrick in remaining matches this season he won't reach 91 goals. Op do the calculation and correct yourself.

Beverlyjean:
Penalties will forever be a million times more valued that ur stupid assists...assists are not goals ...assists don't win u games...goals do

Did they give Owen a chance ... Henry scored 35 goals despite not starting most games

Retardation!!!

Tell us: "Is someone who is just a penalty expert (that is not a striker that scores as well) more likely to win Ballon D'or more than someone who is just an orchestrator of goals?"

Here is the link of all Ballon D'or top contenders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d%27Or

Home work for you: Go through that list and look at all those top 3 contenders and then pick out and tell us:

1) How many are on the list that are not strikers but probably got on that list because they scored a lot of penalties.

2) How many are on the list that are not strikers but probably got on that list because they were creative players who had a lot of assists.

When you finish, never again in your life come to me with such a desperate and stuuuupid argument that penalty players are more valued than players with assist.

It does not come more moooronic than to say penalties are more valued than assists.

And to compound your foolishness: Assists do win games, because assist (by automatic definition) means a goal was scored. Duh!

This is the same person who argued Xavi and Iniesta are V8 engines.

Which penalty takers do you regard as V8 engines?

You just want to open your mouth and argue nonsense to show you are still arguing.

Beverlyjean:
The op compared messi with halland and not Ronaldo...I hv noticed that Messi fans always wanna degrade other world talents to uplift the fraud....they did it to Neymar in barca , Aguero in Argentina , Mbappe in Paris, Lewandowski for Balon D'or, now they hv shifted to haaland...Ronaldo's own is everlasting...I hv never seen Ronaldo's fans trying to degrade other players to uplift him...its Messi fans that always do that....bitter souls that dint wanna accept that he is finished

bros you're right, they just want Messi name to be mention all the time, meanwhile there is tym for everything. Is time fo haaland to shine.

Beverlyjean:
U really don't know how stats work...halland has 5 goals after round 4 in the CL ...how do u expect him to break Ronaldo's 11 group stage goals... stats shows halland will do 8 or 9 goals after the group... scoring in the knockout part is the hardest thing to do... Ronaldo also has that record... Lewandowski , Benzema ,salah and ur Messi all tried but failed ... for Haaland to break it... he needs to get to the final and most likely have to win it to score 17 goals... Ronaldo is first with 17 goals , Ronaldo is 2nd with 16 goals , Ronaldo is joint 3rd along with Lewandowski and Benzema with 15 goals ... a record he set... champions league is not Local Laliga ...its the champions of the champions

So Ronaldo 17 goals will be hard to break but will be easier to break 91 goals Messi record? Are you this deluded?
I'm using your same logic, since Haaland could do 10 for Salzburg that couldn't pass round of 16, he will do 20 for Man City who are potential contender and semi finalist for 2 years running.

Beverlyjean:
Messi was a disaster last season..stop saying trash...u dont know better than the analysts

when Messi miss out of the top 30 Balon D'Or nomination,the analysts made correct decision and they know better but when he won the Balon D'Or,the analysts turn baised and political and the award automatically lose it's credibility?


Wahala and confusion for Ronaldo fanatic

Dreynox:
So what's stopping Messi from Scoring as much Goals as Haaland this season / This year




You mean The most complete Dwarf

Someone that can't score Penalty

Someone that can't use right foot

Someone that can't score with head

How is that one complete


NB : Omo this post really pain people As e dey pain una na so e dey sweet us.



Now count how many goals Ronaldo have scored with left foot, Then count how many he scored with head.

Let's leave sentiment, Messi is the most talented player ever, Ronaldo is the most complete footballer ever.

What's your definition of a complete player?

We're not talking about a complete finisher here, we're talking of a complete player who can finish, playmake, dribble, assist and control the game. Tell me which other player comes close. This is the definition of a complete player

Sheylon:
So if haaland score hatrick in remaining matches this season he won't reach 91 goals. Op do the calculation and correct yourself.

they Said calendar year not football season.
By calendar year,they meant the remainder of 2022 Which is just 2 months away, Haaland is already on 41 Goals and would need 50 More Goals. The remaining matches for this year are not up to 17 Which there's no guarantee he would score hattrick in all the remaining matches.

Beverlyjean:
Thanks to the great men of xavi and iniesta... with only KDB which we know as V6 backing halland...imagine if he had two V8 engines in iniesta and xavi...he will surpass 100 goals ... if u can score 30 goals in the EPL , y can score almost double of that in la liga... since he joined farmers league, he packed up...even suarez did 40 goals in barca...Lewandowski already on 11 goals in 9 games at age 34 with that push and start barca team

Besides stop lying...messi dint do 91 for barca ...it was for club and Country

You guys keep saying thanks to Xavi and iniesta. Check who's the highest assist giver amongst Messi, Iniesta and Xavi. When you're done, you can come back and edit Ur post

Sheylon:
bros you're right, they just want Messi name to be mention all the time, meanwhile there is tym for everything. Is time fo haaland to shine.

funny enough,this comparison first started with Ronaldo figures. The night Ronaldo scored his 700 Goals, the same site brought out a comparison where they said Haaland would have to score 40 Goals per season for 15 years to hit Ronaldo's record,which we all know it would be impossible, everybody all agreed but when it comes to bringing out Messi record and the chances,it turn propaganda for you.

This record need top notch consistency through out the whole calendar year to be broken, In the run of this 91 Goals saw Messi scored in 21 straight games without a break, that's top notch consistency which is rare to come by.

kingamaa:
The original G. O. A. T. Any other goat is a counterfeit.

In a class of his own

Lionel Andres Lionel Messi.
The first of his name
King of the first men
Lord of the 5 realms
Born is the King

Beverlyjean:
So barca in 2012 dint have creative beasts ...man city presentlyvdontveven have the sort of beasts barca had at that time ... xavi , iniesta , busquet , dani Alves, Pedro, David villa , mascerano, alba , puyol

You're just calling household Barça names of that year,,baba.

Messi was infact the creative beast of that year,, with some 8-10 aassists better than his nearest Challenger (xavi hernadez)..

Alba wasn't part of that team,,jsyk.

Mascherano, Busquests,Puyol weren't that creative as well.

Unlike the city team boasting of a creative goalie too .... not to mention of a certain Mahrez, Grealish,, even Rodrigo

Sagamite:
Very fcking well said.

It was ridiculous he was not in the Top 30.

He definitely was not in Top 10 and even arguably not in Top 20, but not to make Top 30 was a joke.

He was being judged by Messi standard, not comparative standards.

Many of the Top 30 players did not perform to the level he performed at PSG last year.

If it was Iwobi that played the way Messi played for PSG last year, he would be in the Top 20 straight away.

You have said it all...

Rossonero:
After Ronaldinho, this guy is a Joy to watch. Effortless touches. Lionel, the real deal.

it's a disrespectful comparing him with a legend like Ronaldinho

Bouncing2:
You're just calling household Barça names of that year,,baba.

Messi was infact the creative beast of that year,, with some 8-10 aassists better than his nearest Challenger (xavi hernadez)..

Alba wasn't part of that team,,jsyk.

Mascherano, Busquests,Puyol weren't that creative as well.

Unlike the city team boasting of a creative goalie too .... not to mention of a certain Mahrez, Grealish,, even Rodrigo

So y dint he create for Argentina while xavi and iniesta during same period powered Spain to 2 Euros and A world cup... y dint messi power them to champions league final after they left

OSESUNATE:
You guys keep saying thanks to Xavi and iniesta. Check who's the highest assist giver amongst Messi, Iniesta and Xavi. When you're done, you can come back and edit Ur post

Bruno had more assist thst KDB.... u still don't get it...thats y we say assist is crap...just pass an easy ball and ur team mate scores and its recorded as assist... commanding the midfield like modric , KDB, Zidane , Scholes, Vieira is what we are talking about... modric hardly assists , but he commands the midfield .... xavi and iniesta commanded the midfield for club and Country.... fabregas has the highest assist in a season in the EPL ...but we he as good as Gerrard?? ...I dont know how u guys watch football... top assists usually goes to forwards ...and that's y the top 5 higest assists are forwards....messi , Suarez, Ronaldo ,muller and Ibrahimovic ( i think), thats cos they are usually in the box... the only reason Messi is number one in assist is cos he played corner kicks and long freekicks ...something others don't do... penalties are way more valuable than assists

maxwell530:
when Messi miss out of the top 30 Balon D'Or nomination,the analysts made correct decision and they know better but when he won the Balon D'Or,the analysts turn baised and political and the award automatically lose it's credibility?


Wahala and confusion for Ronaldo fanatic

We all know he dint deserve it...it was because of the outrage that they decided to have sense...cos I am sure they wud have included him again...

Beverlyjean:
So y dint he create for Argentina while xavi and iniesta during same period powered Spain to 2 Euros and A world cup... y dint messi power them to champions league final after they left

Baba forgeh long talks,,,
2014 world cup final,,na iniesta and xavi powered Argentina reach der abi?

maxwell530:
So Ronaldo 17 goals will be hard to break but will be easier to break 91 goals Messi record? Are you this deluded?
I'm using your same logic, since Haaland could do 10 for Salzburg that couldn't pass round of 16, he will do 20 for Man City who are potential contender and semi finalist for 2 years running.

Ur logic is flawed.. u cant use salzburg cos he has changed teams and he is on 5 goals... he will do 14 or 15 if city gets to final...14 was the number messi scored in the CL when he hit 91 for club and Country...haaland is on 17 league goals in just 11 games , that means he is heading to 60 league goals as it stands ... 60 league goals plus 15 CL goals ( if he gets to the final)will give him 75 goals... FA cup and carling will give him an extra 10 goals... he is already on 5 international goals for country ...and still counting...now do the maths ... he is projected to score almost a hundred goals

Bouncing2:
Baba forgeh long talks,,,
2014 world cup final,,na iniesta and xavi powered Argentina reach der abi?

Reaching the final is not same as winning it.... messi contributed nothing in the knockout...no goals no assists...he was only commanding against Iran Bosnia and his personal favorite Nigeria... Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands, he was anonymous as usual... in the final against Germany same thing... y dint he score like iniesta did in the final to win it na

Beverlyjean:
Ur logic is flawed.. u cant use salzburg cos he has changed teams and he is on 5 goals... he will do 14 or 15 if city gets to final...14 was the number messi scored in the CL when he hit 91 for club and Country...haaland is on 17 league goals in just 11 games , that means he is heading to 60 league goals as it stands ... 60 league goals plus 15 CL goals ( if he gets to the final)will give him 75 goals... FA cup and carling will give him an extra 10 goals... he is already on 5 international goals for country ...and still counting...now do the maths ... he is projected to score almost a hundred goals

Pep Guardiola Will play Erling Haaland in Carabao cup?... God!!! See what delusion has done to human being

Sagamite:
Retardation!!!

Tell us: "Is someone who is just a penalty expert (that is not a striker that scores as well) more likely to win Ballon D'or more than someone who is just an orchestrator of goals?"

Here is the link of all Ballon D'or top contenders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d%27Or

Home work for you: Go through that list and look at all those top 3 contenders and then pick out and tell us:

1) How many are on the list that are not strikers but probably got on that list because they scored a lot of penalties.

2) How many are on the list that are not strikers but probably got on that list because they were creative players who had a lot of assists.

When you finish, never again in your life come to me with such a desperate and stuuuupid argument that penalty players are more valued than players with assist.

It does not come more moooronic than to say penalties are more valued than assists.

And to compound your foolishness: Assists do win games, because assist (by automatic definition) means a goal was scored. Duh!

This is the same person who argued Xavi and Iniesta are V8 engines.

Which penalty takers do you regard as V8 engines?

You just want to open your mouth and argue nonsense to show you are still arguing.

U are even dumber than I tot.... if its by assists, y was fabregas never nominated?? U are too dumb to think assists have value ... commanding the midfield is totally different from passing the ball for the striker to score... Benzema had way more assists than modric in 2018 , but he wasn't even nominated .... most if u are just too dull ... Zidane is not even anywhere near those with top assists, but he won 3 balon dor... Henry and pires that were dishing out assists like gala, what did it win them ??

Beverlyjean:
Reaching the final is not same as winning it.... messi contributed nothing in the knockout...no goals no assists...he was only commanding against Iran Bosnia and his personal favorite Nigeria... Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands, he was anonymous as usual... in the final against Germany same thing... y dint he score like iniesta did in the final to win it na

How many world cup final did your ororo play?

Beverlyjean:
Bruno had more assist thst KDB.... u still don't get it...thats y we say assist is crap...just pass an easy ball and ur team mate scores and its recorded as assist... commanding the midfield like modric , KDB, Zidane , Scholes, Vieira is what we are talking about... modric hardly assists , but he commands the midfield .... xavi and iniesta commanded the midfield for club and Country.... fabregas has the highest assist in a season in the EPL ...but we he as good as Gerrard?? ...I dont know how u guys watch football... top assists usually goes to forwards ...and that's y the top 5 higest assists are forwards....messi , Suarez, Ronaldo ,muller and Ibrahimovic ( i think), thats cos they are usually in the box... the only reason Messi is number one in assist is cos he played corner kicks and long freekicks ...something others don't do... penalties are way more valuable than assists

This is another profoundly stuuuuupid composition!!!

Let me summarise your points that I will soon mince because you are just moooronically waffling to keep talking:

1) Assist are just simple passes.

2) Messi does not control midfield.

3) Messi's assist are only high from participation in taking other set-pieces.

4) The repeated moronic regurgitation that penalties are more valuable than assists.


1) Assist are just simple passes.

This point is actually a plus for Messi because you are highlighting that despite being the greatest Assist-er we have seen ever, the stats do not include the many times he has been the defence disruptor and/or pre-Assist (i.e. 2nd Assist before goal) before another person got the Assist to the goal.

Furthermore, a large proportion of Messi's assist are brilliant. Just fcking brilliant!

Also, despite how high his Assists are, we all know he is generous and not selfish on the pitch. He would be happy to pass to others and guarantee a goal than focus on himself getting the glory (he also, by the way, does not rush to take penalty when other people are brought down in the box, when that other person was about to score. Who does that?)

If assist are so easy, how come ordinary/mediocre players don't top the all-time Assist charts?

https://www.foottheball.com/football-top-10/list-of-top-assists-football-players-history-ever/

2) Messi does not control midfield.

This is just moooronic.

Firstly, Messi is known to come to the midfield to pick the ball and drive the team forward. There are numerous clips of him dribbling 3 to 6 people from midfield. His playing positions actually includes offensive midfielder.

Secondly, he also controls the game from the front.

He is not like Penaldo that only waits for others to control the midfield and huffs and puffs if they are not successful in passing to him, so he can take all the glory and denge-pose.

3) Messi's assist are only high from participation in taking other set-pieces.

This is moronic, I am pretty sure less than 10% of his assists are from corner kicks or freekicks. Even if you remove those, Penaldo still will not match his assists.

4) The repeated moronic regurgitation that penalties are more valuable than assists.

Apart from my last response to you, let me add this to kill this moronic, regurgitated point.

Assists via freekicks and corner kicks are far more valuable than penalties.

You know why?

Because you are definitely going to get more freekicks or corner kicks in a game than penalties. So if you have someone that is good at turning those into goals, they are more valuable in the team than a penalty expert! This is simple ABC reasoning, fuuucktard!

Stop arguing crap and stop talking just to show you are still talking, creeetin!!!

Beverlyjean:
U are even dumber than I tot.... if its by assists, y was fabregas never nominated?? U are too dumb to think assists have value ... commanding the midfield is totally different from passing the ball for the striker to score... Benzema had way more assists than modric in 2018 , but he wasn't even nominated .... most if u are just too dull ... Zidane is not even anywhere near those with top assists, but he won 3 balon dor... Henry and pires that were dishing out assists like gala, what did it win them ??

Mooronic fuuuucktard, I gave you home work and you did not do it?

Abi ori e o pe ni?

You instead tried to avoid your homework by finding some anecdoctal cases to argue and distract from answering?

You are a pure fuuuucktard!

DO YOUR HOME WORK NOW!

Tell us:

1) How many are on the list that are not strikers but probably got on that list because they scored a lot of penalties.

2) How many are on the list that are not strikers but probably got on that list because they were creative players who had a lot of assists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d%27Or

I can't believe moooronic people are still opening their mouths to argue CR7 is GOAT.

Or Haaland is a threat to Messi's title as GOAT!

Those creeetins should write this down or bookmark this:

Haaland can only ever compete with the likes of CR7, Puskas, Pele, Lewandoski, Muller and likes.

Aka goal scorers!

They are not competing at Messi's level.

Messi is the greatest Player. He is just not competing on goalscoring, even though he can beat many of them in that too.

When you have players emerging that are:

De Bruyne + Muller

Neymar + CR7

Ronaldinho + Batistuta

Iniesta + Lewandoski

Then you can start talking about players who can take Messi's crown as GOAT.

Messi is so good and far ahead of others that the likes of Original Ronaldo and Romario are basically a "Poor Man's Messi" now.

Haaland should face his lane. Maybe in future he can argue "I am greater than Cristiano Ronaldo". He will always be behind Messi.

Fooools, write these down in your notebooks.

blueAgent:
the fact remains messi has the highest assist in Laliga histroy more than Xavi and Inesita,

Which means he creates for the team rather than the dumb insinuation that the team plays for him.
Ronaldo fan boys are too dumb to reason logically.

True.
I rate your IQ level by which side you weigh on in the Messi and CR7 debate.

if you say Messi, I know you're intelligent and your sense of reasoning is 3D
If you say CR7 ..lol.

Beverlyjean:
Shut ur own smelly mouth ....y was he disastrous for Argentina but xavi and iniesta were powering the Spanish national team...if not for those players , Messi will just b an upgrade modric

Disastrous for Argentina??
He is Argentina all time goal scorer
In 2014 WC where he won the golden ball, he was Argentina highest scorer, 4goals,
Argentina highest assist 3
Highest chance creation
Highest key passes.
Same with the recent Copa America Argentina won.. he won golden boot and won golden ball and won highest assist.
And you call it disastrous
Xavi left Barca in 2015
Iniesta in 2017
From 2018 Messi won 3 more world best awards without xavi and iniesta
Won a series of league titles
Won over 5golden boots
Became la Liga top assist 3 times
But you call it disastrous
Your brain is leaking breast milk.

Dreynox:
It's your mother that's a public infidel, how many have your useless father scored ?

The rate at which useless mothers like yours is giving birth to useless sons like you is really alarming.

Stupid Animal.

Na your papa and your mama you dey insult with your whole family useless bastard you don’t have respect for Parents that’s why you have the guts to insult my parents. What brought my parents into this. Why didn’t you insult me direct than disgracing your family and letting us know the waywardness and lousiness that you were brought up with. Doucheberg

Alabo7978:
Disastrous for Argentina??
He is Argentina all time goal scorer
In 2014 WC where he won the golden ball, he was Argentina highest scorer, 4goals,
Argentina highest assist 3
Highest chance creation
Highest key passes.
Same with the recent Copa America Argentina won.. he won golden boot and won golden ball and won highest assist.
And you call it disastrous
Xavi left Barca in 2015
Iniesta in 2017
From 2018 Messi won 3 more world best awards without xavi and iniesta
Won a series of league titles
Won over 5golden boots
Became la Liga top assist 3 times
But you call it disastrous
Your brain is leaking breast milk.

All time goal scorer , scoring minors... 60% of his goals are from friendly games...while 18% of Ronaldo’s goals are from friendlies