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LeoDeKing:
200k votes is just the minimum.

Each of the SAs is married with grown up kids, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, nieces, nephews and cousins. Fathers and mothers of some are still alive. Certainly, majority of these relations will vote in line with the SAs. Wike is a politician and is capable of deciding Rivers State votes.

Meanwhile, note this is just one strategy, many other approaches are still available.

This is why when zombidients scream that a governor has only one vote, I laugh at their foolishness and ignorance. The clowns will see the meaning of structures in February, after which biafuro or death will be activated.

Kagd10:
Withdrawal can happen at any time. It's not by force. Shettima can withdraw for Lalong. Tinubu can even withdraw for Ameachi.

“Pursuant to section 32(1) of the Electoral Act 2022 and item 8 of the Timetable and Schedule of Activities for the 2023 General Election, the Commission today 4th October 2022 published the final list of candidates for State Elections (Governorship and State Assembly constituencies).

“The publication of the full names of candidates standing nominated for State Elections follows the political parties’ conduct of primaries and completion of the nomination exercise.

“It will be recalled that at the end of the process, political parties that conducted valid primaries uploaded the list and personal particulars of all nominated candidates to the Commission’s candidate’s nomination portal and the subsequent display in their constituencies nationwide as provided by Section 29(3) of the Electoral Act.

“Subsequently, validly nominated candidates had the opportunity to voluntarily withdraw their candidature by notice in writing and personally delivered such notice to the political party that nominated them for the election.

“Thereafter, political parties substituted such candidates under section 31 of the Electoral Act for which the last day was 12th August, 2022 for State Elections as clearly provided in item 6 of the Commission’s Timetable and Schedule of Activities.

“Thereafter, no withdrawal or substitution of candidates is allowed except in the event of death as provided in section 34(1) of the Electoral Act or pursuant to an order of a Court of competent jurisdiction.

“The list published today contains the names of candidates validly nominated for state elections at the close of party primaries and the period earmarked for withdrawal and substitution of candidates.

fergie001:
Where did you hear this?

Only Death can cause withdrawal or substitution now.

This was Oct 05....

https://www.blueprint.ng/we-wont-allow-withdrawal-substitution-of-candidates-inec-warns/

(This should help guide you)

LeoDeKing:
200k votes is just the minimum.

Each of the SAs is married with grown up kids, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, nieces, nephews and cousins. Fathers and mothers of some are still alive. Certainly, majority of these relations will vote in line with the SAs. Wike is a politician and is capable of deciding Rivers State votes.

Meanwhile, note this is just one strategy, many other approaches are still available.

This is why when zombidients scream that a governor has only one vote, I laugh at their foolishness and ignorance. The clowns will see the meaning of structures in February, after which biafuro or death will be activated.

Kagd10:
They're talking about the presidential candidates here since the VP are picked, not appointed like the presidential candidates.

Secondly, Not less than 90 days to election was given.

Thirdly, there's also voluntarily withdrawal because it's not by force.

Fourthly, the VP was picked, not appointed like the presidential candidate.

Fifthly, this has more ground because federal character wasn't involved in the picking of the federal VP in the first place.

fergie001:
A VP and a President runs on same ticket. They become joined, like Siamese twins. Whatever hits one hits the other. That was why what hit Degi, affected Lyon.

We are on the same page now. That's like 2 weeks from now. The Electoral Act supercedes the Schedule of Activities....


It is by force once it's that time.

In 2019, Oby Ezekwesili withdrew in January, a month to the election, then the Electoral Act 2010 (S35) was 45days to the election. INEC did not recognise the withdrawal, so she participated by FORCE. Even her Deputy supported Buhari, INEC didn't bulge.


The VP-candidate was nominated whilst the Presidential Candidate was elected. However, the two becomes one, a single ticket the moment they begin to run.


What constitutes Federal Character in the election?

Nothing stops anybody from picking anybody. Did El-Rufai undertake Federal Character when he also picked a fellow Muslim in Kaduna?

Again, his same deputy is also running as Deputy to the Governorship Candidate in 2023 (another Muslim).
Federal Character doesn't play @ all.


Well, I don't want to do the politics of it but I will try.

Politically speaking, It will be suicidal for Tinubu to pick a Christian from the North Central.

Kagd10:
First, it's talking about the main character here which is the presidential candidate or any other appointed candidate, not the VP that's picked and not appointed. Ezekwesili was the main character here and she was withdrawing few days to the election. This is different from the VP which is picked, not appointed. Besides, did Ezekwesili even have a replacement? She didn't. She just withdrew few days to election without a replacement hence her name was put there anyway

Secondly, the federal character is "federal" in quote which entails national level hence comprises everyone, not state level which is all about the indigenous people here hence why El rufai could get away with it. This is national level here which encompasses everyone.

Thirdly, of what use is Tinubu losing the votes of the North Central and South South when the Fulani and Hausa he's banking on are planing to betray him?

Point is Tinubu shouldn't be left to scrap from limited pool whereas he should have the whole wide pool by including everyone. I mean, how did you expect the people of the South South, Plateau, Taraba, Benue to vote for him with two Muslim Muslim ticket? Of what use is loosing their votes when the Hausa and Fulani are planning to betray him anyway? And even if they don't end up betraying him, then there's nothing wrong in having more additional votes to ensure Tinubu win by a major landslide. Point is Tinubu would have to include everyone going by federal character.

Kagd10:
First, it's talking about the main character here which is the presidential candidate or any other appointed candidate, not the VP that's picked and not appointed. Ezekwesili was the main character here and she was withdrawing few days to the election. This is different from the VP which is picked, not appointed. Besides, did Ezekwesili even have a replacement? She didn't. She just withdrew few days to election without a replacement hence her name was put there anyway

Secondly, the federal character is "federal" in quote which entails national level hence comprises everyone, not state level which is all about the indigenous people here hence why El rufai could get away with it. This is national level here which encompasses everyone.

Thirdly, of what use is Tinubu losing the votes of the North Central and South South when the Fulani and Hausa he's banking on are planing to betray him?

Point is Tinubu shouldn't be left to scrap from limited pool whereas he should have the whole wide pool by including everyone. I mean, how did you expect the people of the South South, Plateau, Taraba, Benue to vote for him with two Muslim Muslim ticket? Of what use is loosing their votes when the Hausa and Fulani are planning to betray him anyway? And even if they don't end up betraying him, then there's nothing wrong in having more additional votes to ensure Tinubu win by a major landslide. Point is Tinubu would have to include everyone going by federal character.

Kagd10:
First, it's talking about the main character here which is the presidential candidate or any other appointed candidate, not the VP that's picked and not appointed. Ezekwesili was the main character here and she was withdrawing few days to the election. This is different from the VP which is picked, not appointed. Besides, did Ezekwesili even have a replacement? She didn't. She just withdrew few days to election without a replacement hence her name was put there anyway

Secondly, the federal character is "federal" in quote which entails national level hence comprises everyone, not state level which is all about the indigenous people here hence why El rufai could get away with it. This is national level here which encompasses everyone.

Thirdly, of what use is Tinubu losing the votes of the North Central and South South when the Fulani and Hausa he's banking on are planing to betray him?

Point is Tinubu shouldn't be left to scrap from limited pool whereas he should have the whole wide pool by including everyone. I mean, how did you expect the people of the South South, Plateau, Taraba, Benue to vote for him with two Muslim Muslim ticket? Of what use is loosing their votes when the Hausa and Fulani are planning to betray him anyway? And even if they don't end up betraying him, then there's nothing wrong in having more additional votes to ensure Tinubu win by a major landslide. Point is Tinubu would have to include everyone going by federal character.

fergie001:
What is the difference between the underlined?

I don't know what you are getting at, tbh.

Nothing like main character or not, after November 25, all these things we are saying becimes academic.


How can you put everyone and not state level in the same sentence? Is that not contradictory?

Don't you know what we call Federal Character is a Constitutional term? It applies to States as well. The Constitution in Section 14(1,2) talks about Federal , while 14(4) talks about States and Local Governments.

Federal Character is not just in name. It is binding on all spheres of Govt. So, it is binding on Kaduna, Niger, Ogun, Enugu, Rivers and everywhere.


Ok, let him pick Lalong and drop Shettima, it's fine.


garfield1 ejimatic

fergie001:
What is the difference between the underlined?

I don't know what you are getting at, tbh.

Nothing like main character or not, after November 25, all these things we are saying becimes academic.


How can you put everyone and not state level in the same sentence? Is that not contradictory?

Don't you know what we call Federal Character is a Constitutional term? It applies to States as well. The Constitution in Section 14(1,2) talks about Federal , while 14(4) talks about States and Local Governments.

Federal Character is not just in name. It is binding on all spheres of Govt. So, it is binding on Kaduna, Niger, Ogun, Enugu, Rivers and everywhere.


Ok, let him pick Lalong and drop Shettima, it's fine.


garfield1 ejimatic

ejimatic:
Tinubu has no other choice apart from taking Shetimma. In my opinion the North stepped down for him to be the party:s flag bearer. The condition they gave him was to take a Nothern Moslem as the VP. Do Northern chritians outnumber the great crowds of the Northern moslems? The core North will never support a Northern christian as the VP. Tinubu chose Shetimma to satisfy the core North. If the North does not betray him he can still win in 2023!

ejimatic:
Tinubu has no other choice apart from taking Shetimma. In my opinion the North stepped down for him to be the party:s flag bearer. The condition they gave him was to take a Nothern Moslem as the VP. Do Northern chritians outnumber the great crowds of the Northern moslems? The core North will never support a Northern christian as the VP. Tinubu chose Shetimma to satisfy the core North. If the North does not betray him he can still win in 2023!

ejimatic:
Tinubu has no other choice apart from taking Shetimma. In my opinion the North stepped down for him to be the party:s flag bearer. The condition they gave him was to take a Nothern Moslem as the VP. Do Northern chritians outnumber the great crowds of the Northern moslems? The core North will never support a Northern christian as the VP. Tinubu chose Shetimma to satisfy the core North. If the North does not betray him he can still win in 2023!

Kagd10:
First, no one stepped down for Tinubu. Tinubu worked for his candidate. That was the pact he made before he supported Buhari in the first place. And yeah, Tinubu is a big deal. In fact, when he was announced as APC candidate, it was a big news everywhere. Including social media. As a matter of fact, he walking toe to toe with Peter Obi on social media until Shettima was announced as his VP.

Meanwhile, The North Central are part of the North. Just like you can't say South South are not part of the Southern. Lalong is a Plateau man which is core as it can get. If Tinubu picked Lalong, everyone will be represented. I mean, North, South, Muslim and Christian etc

Both of you are Peter Obi fans hence I know why you're saying all these.

You want Peter Obi to sweep the South South and South East and then pick some major votes from the North. I know your plans already.

The best is for Tinubu to change his ticket by including everyone and have a wide pool for himself.

Kagd10:
First, no one stepped down for Tinubu. Tinubu worked for his candidate. That was the pact he made before he supported Buhari in the first place. And yeah, Tinubu is a big deal. In fact, when he was announced as APC candidate, it was a big news everywhere. Including social media. As a matter of fact, he walking toe to toe with Peter Obi on social media until Shettima was announced as his VP.

Meanwhile, The North Central are part of the North. Just like you can't say South South are not part of the Southern. Lalong is a Plateau man which is core as it can get. If Tinubu picked Lalong, everyone will be represented. I mean, North, South, Muslim and Christian etc

Both of you are Peter Obi fans hence I know why you're saying all these.

You want Peter Obi to sweep the South South and South East and then pick some major votes from the North. I know your plans already.

The best is for Tinubu to change his ticket by including everyone and have a wide pool for himself.

garfield1:
Tinubu picking lalong won't change anything.lalong isn't even sure of delivering plalteu

fergie001:
You seem not to understand.
I am not discussing the morality or otherwise of Tinubu's choices. Personally, the only way he could have run away from it was not to contest, a North-Eastern Christian might make him suffer, but a Christian from North-Central will make him fail woefully.

I am only saying nothing like Federal Character concerns the choices for VP or President.

There is a Federal Character, it affects States. Nonetheless, it didn't stop El-Rufai hence, leave Federal Character when it comes to these categories of positions I told you.

Federal Character was in the 1979 Constitution and did not stop MKO from picking another Muslim, Kingibe as his Vice. I am talking from a legal POV.

Kagd10:
Says a Peter Obi supporter.

fergie001:
Very funny.

You must be very new here on NL.

Kagd10:
But it's the truth that you support Peter Obi.

ejimatic:
I am not a supporter of Peter Obi and can never be. BAT Atiku and Obi are all the same . What is human friendly in a gun? Nothing ...They are all components of a gun ... However out of three devils we will take one. A lot of factors will not make Obi win. The battle is btween Atiku and BAT. If the North APC states do not betray him,. BAT has the greater chances to win in 2023!