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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:30am On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
You dont even have a working sewage system in your entire country apart from a small one in Accra central old CBD.
Ghana isn't kibera where thick sewage roves nonchalantly down to the river choking with tonnes of all sorts of waste from both shanks and the Urban area .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 10:40am On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
That only apartment block in your entire miserable country. Shocking if you ask me.
Nothing shocking there,he is comparing a middle class estate to your slum. It must be serious desperation from him.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 10:41am On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
Dealing with Ghanians I have come to realize is akin to minning for gold in the galamsey. You have to dig a lot of dirt just to get a few nuggets of gold at end of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOtmb6N6IIA
Precisely.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 10:44am On Nov 21, 2022
theenchanter:
no be d first marathon in Africa, baba.
The first to attain Gold Label status
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 11:00am On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
Infant industry must be protected for a limited time period. That almajiri is my position. Ideally you want to reduce protection tariff annually until it's zero rated. For it come at the cost of the consumers and economy.

Otherwise, you will create One Dangote and 133 million poor Nigerians. The poverty capital of the world. Poverty has increased while Buhari is talking propaganda about rice and import substitution

India with 1.5billion people have reduced their poverty now to about 80M.
I shouldn't be responding but there is a difference between multidimensional poverty and poverty matrix used mostly all over the world.

The common poverty matrix used, measures poverty at below 1 dollar a day but this doesn't do us justice anymore because of the purchasing power parity especially if you want to consider the black market. 1 dollar is 761 naira at the black market. 761 naira a day in Kebbi state (inspite of inflation) can still do a lot for the market woman and rural farmer there, and these are also the set of people with the highest population in Nigeria. Even in Lagos (Nigeria's most expensive city, 761 naira would still get you a local meal but this is impossible in the U.S and most of Europe). Hence measuring poverty by the American dollar doesn't help us measure poverty properly.

With multidimensional poverty, you measure several factors such as access to electricity or maybe internet, education, adequate water supply etc. They could be just content in their own way but lack access to some basic amenities like primary education or good water supply. This is why the majority in this data are said to be children.

The data taken was based on a broad sample of about 60,000 persons. It was estimated that 27 million out of the 133 million are in urban areas while 106 million are in rural areas.

It's an ongoing process, the more data the Nigerian NBS has, the more the data is updated from time to time but the NBS has abandoned the old and usual way of measuring poverty.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 11:31am On Nov 21, 2022
GeneralDae:
I shouldn't be responding but there is a difference between multidimensional poverty and poverty matrix used mostly all over the world.

The common poverty matrix used, measures poverty at below 1 dollar a day but this doesn't do us justice anymore because of the purchasing power parity especially if you want to consider the black market. 1 dollar is 761 naira at the black market. 761 naira a day in Kebbi state (inspite of inflation) can still do a lot for the market woman and rural farmer there, and these are also the set of people with the highest population in Nigeria. Even in Lagos (Nigeria's most expensive city, 761 naira would still get you a local meal but this is impossible in the U.S and most of Europe). Hence measuring poverty by the American dollar doesn't help us measure poverty properly.

With multidimensional poverty, you measure several factors such as access to electricity or maybe internet, education, adequate water supply etc. They could be just content in their own way but lack access to some basic amenities like primary education or good water supply. This is why the majority in this data are said to be children.

The data taken was based on a broad sample of about 60,000 persons. It was estimated that 27 million out of the 133 million are in urban areas while 106 million are in rural areas.

It's an ongoing process, the more data the Nigerian NBS has, the more the data is updated from time to time but the NBS has abandoned the old and usual way of measuring poverty.
once you begin to measure what that maters in life and leave mediocre . nairobi can't compete war ravaged maiduguri. bet me. Kano will be too developed for average kenyans .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 11:42am On Nov 21, 2022
This is Tamale ( northern region capital airport ) .

You can now fly from northern Ghana to the middle east comfortably ( saudi arabia and co.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by cass1(m): 11:46am On Nov 21, 2022
Wow, it’s really sad to see how we Africans keep fighting amongst ourselves rather than fight the leadership that has kept us this way. Tuweeeh
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 11:53am On Nov 21, 2022
Whatever building you see here are privately owned .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXkNzkC6YA
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 11:57am On Nov 21, 2022
68816419:
The first to attain Gold Label status
rara sir. smiley

The 1st one dey southy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 11:59am On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
Infant industry must be protected for a limited time period. That almajiri is my position. Ideally you want to reduce protection tariff annually until it's zero rated. For it come at the cost of the consumers and economy.

Otherwise, you will create One Dangote and 133 million poor Nigerians. The poverty capital of the world. Poverty has increased while Buhari is talking propaganda about rice and import substitution

India with 1.5billion people have reduced their poverty now to about 80M.
Ori yin o pe sir.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 12:22pm On Nov 21, 2022
Phase 2 road of Tamale airport ( northern region. Of Ghana

.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVOz7JMLw6g
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 12:57pm On Nov 21, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:06pm On Nov 21, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:07pm On Nov 21, 2022
vaxx:
Whatever building you see here are privately owned .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXkNzkC6YA
Very tiny.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:07pm On Nov 21, 2022
Agreed - it's multidimensional - but even if income is used alone - I bet they are more poor people in Buhari regime than before.

Kenya isnt doing any better - but at least it's better than Nigeria.

"The new index shows 23.4 million Kenyans are multidimensionally poor, compared to 15.9 million if one were looking at income only. The index is contained in the new Comprehensive Poverty Report, produced by KNBS, Unicef and UN Women"

The point is all the rice revolution and Dangote import substitution are not making a dent on poverty. They are making the billioniares richer...and we have to be careful with repeating FAILED IMPORT SUBSTITUTION policies. Protect infant industries as you make them competitive...not blanket protection of billionaire investors & businessmen....while people are buying cheap rice they can get for 10,000 naira for 42,000 naira.

How many Nigerians would escape out of poverty if imported rice was retailing at 10,000 Naira?



GeneralDae:
I shouldn't be responding but there is a difference between multidimensional poverty and poverty matrix used mostly all over the world.

The common poverty matrix used, measures poverty at below 1 dollar a day but this doesn't do us justice anymore because of the purchasing power parity especially if you want to consider the black market. 1 dollar is 761 naira at the black market. 761 naira a day in Kebbi state (inspite of inflation) can still do a lot for the market woman and rural farmer there, and these are also the set of people with the highest population in Nigeria. Even in Lagos (Nigeria's most expensive city, 761 naira would still get you a local meal but this is impossible in the U.S and most of Europe). Hence measuring poverty by the American dollar doesn't help us measure poverty properly.

With multidimensional poverty, you measure several factors such as access to electricity or maybe internet, education, adequate water supply etc. They could be just content in their own way but lack access to some basic amenities like primary education or good water supply. This is why the majority in this data are said to be children.

The data taken was based on a broad sample of about 60,000 persons. It was estimated that 27 million out of the 133 million are in urban areas while 106 million are in rural areas.

It's an ongoing process, the more data the Nigerian NBS has, the more the data is updated from time to time but the NBS has abandoned the old and usual way of measuring poverty.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:10pm On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
Again OBABOON PAY ATTENTION.

JW Marriott's are in a higher tier than traditional Marriott hotels. Rates are usually at a higher premium than standard Marriotts. You will normally see a higher quality hotel in terms of building structure, furniture and linens used in rooms and in the bathrooms.

What you have are Marriots hotels - not JW Marriots - which are 5-7 star hotels - only found I reckon in Egypt and Mauritus - and now Nairobi


Quick Google - there are only two JW Marriot - Cairo and Mauritus (going for 600usd plus a night)
They're still both 5 star hotels, our Marriot hotel and your jw Marriot. EOD.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:12pm On Nov 21, 2022
I only said Nairobi was going to be 3rd JW marriot hotel after Cairo and Mauritus. You are the one who wanted to make a meal out of it.
obaaderemi:
They're still both 5 star hotels, our Marriot hotel and your jw Marriot. EOD.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:19pm On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
I only said Nairobi was going to be 3rd JW marriot hotel after Cairo and Mauritus. You are the one who wanted to make a meal out of it.
You can rest, R I P.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:23pm On Nov 21, 2022
obaaderemi:
They're still both 5 star hotels, our Marriot hotel and your jw Marriot. EOD.
So what essentially are you crying about Obaboon? grin
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:41pm On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
Agreed - it's multidimensional - but even if income is used alone - I bet they are more poor people in Buhari regime than before.

Kenya isnt doing any better - but at least it's better than Nigeria.

"The new index shows 23.4 million Kenyans are multidimensionally poor, compared to 15.9 million if one were looking at income only. The index is contained in the new Comprehensive Poverty Report, produced by KNBS, Unicef and UN Women"

The point is all the rice revolution and Dangote import substitution are not making a dent on poverty. They are making the billioniares richer...and we have to be careful with repeating FAILED IMPORT SUBSTITUTION policies. Protect infant industries as you make them competitive...not blanket protection of billionaire investors & businessmen....while people are buying cheap rice they can get for 10,000 naira for 42,000 naira.

How many Nigerians would escape out of poverty if imported rice was retailing at 10,000 Naira?
You keep crying about rice. Kenyans and hunger!
I wonder why the rice revolution in Nigeria is Killing you. We could no longer continue to be a heavy importer of a commodity we could produce locally thereby piling more pressure on the naira. With time the price would come down.

But we got to start somewhere. Now investments in rice Mills are all over the place. Those who used to import rice into Nigeria are going into processing now thereby creating jobs. Think of the multiplier effects.

On multidimensional poverty, if after all the lies and cooking of data Kenya still has about half its population poor, then the true numbers must be very staggering. No one takes data from Kenya seriously, a country where common people can no longer afford rice.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 1:42pm On Nov 21, 2022
gallivant:
Very tiny.
how equitable is the distribution of resources between kikuyu and luo ? Even if scanty ?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:44pm On Nov 21, 2022
vaxx:
how equitable is the distribution of resources between kikuyu and luo ? Even if scanty ?
Post dwarf city instead of arguments. It's easier on everybody's eyes. smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 1:46pm On Nov 21, 2022
gallivant:
Post dwarf city instead of arguments. It's easier on everybody's eyes. smiley
poor student . Na question I ask you , na bullshit you dey yawn
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:47pm On Nov 21, 2022
obaaderemi:
You keep crying about rice. Kenyans and hunger!
I wonder why the rice revolution in Nigeria is Killing you. We could no longer continue to be a heavy importer of a commodity we could produce locally thereby piling more pressure on the naira. With time the price would come down.

But we got to start somewhere. Now investments in rice Mills are all over the place. Those who used to import rice into Nigeria are going into processing now thereby creating jobs. Think of the multiplier effects.

On multidimensional poverty, if after all the lies and cooking of data Kenya still has about half its population poor, then the true numbers must be very staggering. No one takes data from Kenya seriously, a country where common people can no longer afford rice.
Talk less Obaboon, and present the data. grin

https://www.myjoyonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/food.png
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:48pm On Nov 21, 2022
theenchanter:
I thought one idiot said Kenya is a free market that allows competition.
An idiot indeed.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:49pm On Nov 21, 2022
How many farming and milling jobs compared to 220m consumers. Produce and mill rice but not at 4 times the international prices.
obaaderemi:
You keep crying about rice. Kenyans and hunger!
I wonder why the rice revolution in Nigeria is Killing you. We could no longer continue to be a heavy importer of a commodity we could produce locally thereby piling more pressure on the naira. With time the price would come down.

But we got to start somewhere. Now investments in rice Mills are all over the place. Those who used to import rice into Nigeria are going into processing now thereby creating jobs. Think of the multiplier effects.

On multidimensional poverty, if after all the lies and cooking of data Kenya still has about half its population poor, then the true numbers must be very staggering. No one takes data from Kenya seriously, a country where common people can no longer afford rice.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:52pm On Nov 21, 2022
vaxx:
poor student . Na question I ask you , na bullshit you dey yawn
A bullshit answer for a bullshit question. smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:52pm On Nov 21, 2022
rvp20182:
How many farming and milling jobs compared to 220m consumers. Produce and mill rice but not at 4 times the international prices.
Prices will drop with time. We can't continue providing jobs for Taiwanese farmers while our own farmers go hungry, like Kenyan farmers going hungry while the country imports things they can produce like rice and corn.
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