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Must be a Yoruba thing - I have igbo friends and they have few choice words for Obaboon kind of folks. He has been sucking up to Northern Elite like Dangote who now basically own Nigeria.

gallivant:
You are being addressed now, not the Ghanaians.

I am not disputing HDI - but of course its not only or most important measure of development. HDI is UN (UNDP) take on human development - it has nothing on infrastructure or real estate or etc. That is why this thread continues every day. There are thousands of indicators of progress including PICTURE TEST.

You cannot claim to be developed and look like Ghana. Hell no. You should look like South Africa if you're a middle class. Kenya if you're lower middle class.

obaaderemi:
Picture challenge? Do you not sound stupidd to yourself? You just admitted earlier on today that you weren't disputing the fact that Ghana was better than Kenya.
Only your fellow little Indians take you seriously. You are worse than a yo-yo.

rvp2018:
Must be a Yoruba thing - I have igbo friends and they have few choice words for Obaboon kind of folks. He has been sucking up to Northern Elite like Dangote who now basically own Nigeria.

From my observations, it is a Yoruba thing. Very stupid cowardly folk.

Yes - and they have kinship ties - with fellow slaving kingdom of Ashanti. They make excellent slaves.

gallivant:
From my observations, it is a Yoruba thing. Very stupid cowardly folk.

obaaderemi:
A little Indian like you will never understand these things. I was talking to a Ghanaian who is a fellow West African and undoubtedly understands.

The first secondary School in Nigeria was established in 1859, the oldest in Kenya came about half a century later. So, I can't discuss such lofty things with you.

Having any argument on education with a Kenyan is a waste of time... Those kids only get schooled and not educated

This just reminds me that no Kenyan secondary school is as old as Wesley Girls, which was established in 1836.

Why I'm I still engaging those dumb kids

Just40:

Having any argument on education with a Kenyan is a waste of time... Those kids only get schooled and not educated

This just reminds me that no Kenyan secondary school is as old as Wesley Girls, which was established in 1836.

Why I'm I still engaging those dumb kids

Why don't you stop engaging Kenyans. It's quite easy.

rvp2018:
I am not disputing HDI - but of course its not only or most important measure of development. HDI is UN (UNDP) take on human development - it has nothing on infrastructure or real estate or etc. That is why this thread continues every day. There are thousands of indicators of progress including PICTURE TEST.

You cannot claim to be developed and look like Ghana. Hell no. You should look like South Africa if you're a middle class. Kenya if you're lower middle class.

Ghana look better than Kenya so you have no basis for argument.
The real estate figures already confirmed that and your own country census already confirmed that as well

We have already done each infrastructure and at every one of them, Kenya fall short at just doing half of what Ghana is doing or 1/3rd of what Ghana is doing.

For the size of Kenya, you should be doing twice what Ghana does.
Sleep you lost it all

Just40:
Ghana look better than Kenya so you have no basis for argument.
The real estate figures already confirmed that and your own country census already confirmed that as well

Tortured arguments. No Kenyan is impressed by your empty words. Not now, never! Take your advice and go engage Nigerians instead. Stop tormenting yourself.

rvp2018:
You must be a Ghanian to be able to reason (or not) like this. You guys are arguably the daftest folks.
You can have 3,000 boarding with 200 teachers or 20-day schools in each village with 150-200 kids; 10 teachers.
Which one is better?
You will be "developing" areas with large boarding schools while leaving the rest to become desolate villages.
Gov should focus on standard school package for every village; that should equalize education.
Every village will therefore have electricity, water, name it;
Schools should have lunch program - and that is it.
Even Colleges - TIVET - should be established in walking distance or at least 10kms radius from every village.
Universities should be within say 20kms distance from every village.
Boarding schools, hostels in universities, or college should be an exception.
It cheaper for everyone, spread development and really education like any gov services should be available anywhere and everywhere.

There are things that need to be consolidated in one area - like factories - your 1D 1 F is totally crazy. You want to have factories in one area to benefit from economies of location. So factories are best located in one special economic zone or industrial zone.

There are things that need to be dispersed - these are gov and social services - to at best walking distance from everyone. This a right to everyone. Every Ghanian deserve quality education right in their village.

Otherwise you will create a society where rich kids go to boarding or university or college - but poor kid in the village - cannot - because it expensive for them.

Heck reading from Ghanians here - you have already replicated the British class system - where kids who went to XYZ fancy high school - are more special than others - while in rest of world - 90% of people go to local schools, local college, local university - because they are of the same standards - with what obtains elsewhere - except 10% who need something really special or better.

there's a policy here where 30% of admissions to the boarding schools is reserved for 'poor' students from the environs of the school. So that 'takes care' of poor people not getting admissions

You speak as if it's easy to just build day schools in EVERY village. How long must students wait for a school to be built near them so they attend? 10, 20 yrs?

What about issues of land availability, conducive location etc etc? Students would STILL have to pay for DAILY feeding/transportation as day students. It's cheaper where they're congregated in one place

Do you know the number of day students who 'opt' to become boarders during exams times especially so they benefit from the discipline/structured learning timetable/no disturbance environment etc of the boarding house?

First you need to understand that current focus on boarding school is not right.
Then walk the journey to reconfigure your messed up education system
It wont be easy - it will take time to have good standard equal education in every village.
But it can be done.
Kenya is already at 70% day school; with only 30% boarding school;
There is still huge infrastructure mismatch btw day and boarding; but fact that gov fundeds 100% day school is great incentive.
We also const dev fund and other funds for building school infrastracture.
What remain is to come up with standard school package - that every school should at minimum have - and the extras people should be free to get them.
What would be a standard day school look like that provide quality education to kids at walking distance from their homes.
That should be the goal.
But Ghana you're still building huge model boarding secondary schools.
You gov has gone broke funding free boarding secondary schools.

https://www.myjoyonline.com/free-shs-it-does-not-make-sense-to-pay-for-people-to-go-to-boarding-school-free-kofi-bentil/
"According to him, 70 percent of government’s budget for the Free SHS policy is being spent on feeding students alone."
Just imagine instead of providing quality education - you're feeding kids - who can be fed at their homes.

Parents dont want you to feed their kids - they want you to provide excellent teachers, excellent teaching and non-teaching opportunities at schools, like in any elite school. If those schools are available in walking distance - who will take their kids 200 kilometres away?

mdntiri:
there's a policy here where 30% of admissions to the boarding schools is reserved for 'poor' students from the environs of the school. So that 'takes care' of poor people not getting admissions

You speak as if it's easy to just build day schools in EVERY village. How long must students wait for a school to be built near them so they attend? 10, 20 yrs?

What about issues of land availability, conducive location etc etc? Students would STILL have to pay for DAILY feeding/transportation as day students. It's cheaper where they're congregated in one place

Do you know the number of day students who 'opt' to become boarders during exams times especially so they benefit from the discipline/structured learning timetable/no disturbance environment etc of the boarding house?

Dangote introduced HOWO product into Nigeria, he didn’t stop there, he made sure he owned the brand in Nigeria( assembly plants and trained technicians). Today Howo is one of the most acceptable brands when it comes to tipper heavy duty vehicles. Technology transfer.

Dangote...The Real G.O.A.T

This trend everywhere - in Kenya - Chinese brands - FAW, SINO, SHACMAN & HOWO have taken over. It got nothing to do with Dangote. It's Chinese trucks nailing the truck business..their prizes for once is very competitive compared to European and Japanase models.

GeneralDae:
Dangote introduced HOWO product into Nigeria, he didn’t stop there, he made sure he owned the brand in Nigeria( assembly plants and trained technicians). Today Howo is one of the most acceptable brands when it comes to tipper heavy duty vehicles. Technology transfer.

Dangote...The Real G.O.A.T

rvp2018:
First you need to understand that current focus on boarding school is not right.
Then walk the journey to reconfigure your messed up education system
It wont be easy - it will take time to have good standard equal education in every village.
But it can be done.
Kenya is already at 70% day school; with only 30% boarding school;
There is still huge infrastructure mismatch btw day and boarding; but fact that gov fundeds 100% day school is great incentive.
We also const dev fund and other funds for building school infrastracture.
What remain is to come up with standard school package - that every school should at minimum have - and the extras people should be free to get them.
What would be a standard day school look like that provide quality education to kids at walking distance from their homes.
That should be the goal.
But Ghana you're still building huge model boarding secondary schools.
You gov has gone broke funding free boarding secondary schools.

https://www.myjoyonline.com/free-shs-it-does-not-make-sense-to-pay-for-people-to-go-to-boarding-school-free-kofi-bentil/
"According to him, 70 percent of government’s budget for the Free SHS policy is being spent on feeding students alone."
Just imagine instead of providing quality education - you're feeding kids - who can be fed at their homes.

Parents dont want you to feed their kids - they want you to provide excellent teachers, excellent teaching and non-teaching opportunities at schools, like in any elite school. If those schools are available in walking distance - who will take their kids 200 kilometres away?

what is wrong with you Kenyans ? In this day and age and your high schools class rooms look like this?

Black boards with desks looking like Ghana primary schools in 2010. Kenyan high school teachers might be getting sick from using chalk.


The problem with putting kids in community high school that are day school is that you end up with kids that are unexposed and remain in their small cocoons knowing nothing and the school is usually Empty with low enrollment.
They usually have poor academic because they are not exposed
An example is this high school in Kenya Mathare-ini Secondary School

The fate of a secondary school in Murang’a hangs in the balance after parents transferred their children to other institutions citing low enrollment and poor academic performance.

Parents at Mathare-ini Secondary School in Kigumo took the drastic action after the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) transferred eight teachers to other institutions owing to low enrollment.

When the school opened for first term, parents withdrew their children, leaving principal Patrick Kamau stunned.

Events at the school featured prominently on social media platforms, with residents calling for speedy intervention to save the facility from closure.

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For four days, local leaders have held meetings in an attempt to save the institution.

Parents’ decision

The decision to withdraw students, Saturday Standard has learnt, was reached during the holidays. Last year, the school run without Form Two students.

There were 18 students in Form One and 13 in Form Three. The school had 26 Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education (KCSE) candidates.

When the school opened for its first term, the 21 students who were to proceed to the next classes failed to show up. Judy Waithira, a parent, said they opted to withdraw their children after eight teachers were moved on grounds of low enrolment.

The parents also cited poor performance in KCSE.

“Low enrolment has been a challenge but we have put in mechanisms to attract more learners this year,” a confident Kamau said.

“The situation is not bad. We expect that by next week, there will be learners in the school,” said Kigumo Deputy Director of Education Paul Kigaya.

Boarding school will always remain superior to these kinds of results.... You have kids from the best rich international schools, ministers children, MPs children and kids from poor village schools all meeting in the same high school. This create Equity and Equality on the same baseline to receive the same Quality education in Ghana.

Just40:

Having any argument on education with a Kenyan is a waste of time... Those kids only get schooled and not educated

This just reminds me that no Kenyan secondary school is as old as Wesley Girls, which was established in 1836.

Why I'm I still engaging those dumb kids

The oldest secondary School in little India was established in 1905 or so. That's a baby in West Africa.

What has Kenya done to receive 2.4 million students into high school in 2023? The High schools in Kenya only have a capacity for 1 million kids
Kenyan govt has failed completely at expanding infrastructure so chaos will ensue

obaaderemi:
The oldest secondary School in little India was established in 1905 or so. That's a baby in West Africa.

That's quite shameful

Just40:

Having any argument on education with a Kenyan is a waste of time... Those kids only get schooled and not educated

This just reminds me that no Kenyan secondary school is as old as Wesley Girls, which was established in 1836.

Why I'm I still engaging those dumb kids

You have internet yet you can't make use of it? Is it obtuseness in play or ignorance? Wasting words will not help anything but drain you. When we read your nonsense, we see a nut case.
https://uzalendonews.co.ke/oldest-school-in-kenya/
The first image rep old schools in Ghana.

obaaderemi:
If Hdi was the measure then you don't stand a chance against Ghana. Such a wide gulf. But no, Hdi is hardly the measure as we have often told you silly tits.

Ghana is doing good in human development index. Kenya has been greatly affected by human negligence, especially in drought-infested regions. We need to tackle climate change, then eradicated drought-related deaths and we will be good. Probably better than Ghana.
Nigeria on the other hand needs to fight open defecation, poverty, slums, living standards, insecurities, and pretty much everything. Your HDI is among the lowest in Africa, toe-to-toe with DRC, Somalia, Niger, Sudan, and whatnot.

rvp2018:
Obaboon, I dont need validation. See how you're sucking up to the Ghanians so they can support you . The day you reach my level - of course you cant- you will be able to stand on your own feet.

What you're doing lately is pretty embarrassing - we might have to find some more apt moninker - you're now below the primate level - maybe the ungulates will want to adopt you.

Obufoon, I told you Rvp has been massaging your ego for a long time. You're like 10times below Rvps everything-- intellectually, savagery, etc. I believe he hasn't gone full berserk on your fragile nerves - he's giving you a chance to up your game.

obaaderemi:
Sucking up to what Ghanaians? Have you forgotten how you and your brothers accepted on the other thread that Ghana was better than Kenya in a bid to keep the Ghanaians on your side? I still don't know at what point the Ghanaians turned against you and started hitting you mercilessly.

Your level in what exactly? Is it your poor grasp of literacy or your poor knowledge of numbers? It's as clear as crystal you are not brilliant.

Weakest come back blended with pedestrian arguments. Just rest. Lest your relevance in Nairaland is protected from the state of oblivion.

REST

Shma2022:
You have internet yet you can't make use of it? Is it obtuseness in play or ignorance? Wasting words will not help anything but drain you. When we read your nonsense, we see a nut case.
https://uzalendonews.co.ke/oldest-school-in-kenya/
The first image rep old schools in Ghana.

Wesley Girls only moved to their new campus in that year... While their school was founded in 1836
Don't rant when I'm speaking facts

Next rant

Just40:
Wesley Girls only moved to their new campus in that year... While their school was founded in 1836
Don't rant when I'm speaking facts

Next rant

Don't mind that idiot. Their oldest secondary School started in 1902 or 1905. The one he is touting as their first secondary School started life as an elementary missionary school at a town called Rabai near Mombasa. Believe little Indians at your peril. These threads have taught us that.

Just40:


That's quite shameful

Any wonder they continue to show high level of dumbness here?

That scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find a failed day school.Schools main aim is not feed or allow kids to meet or fraternize with minister kids...it's to provide quality teaching experience.The rest they can get in their village or town or home... minister sons and daughters come from some village I hope

Just40:
what is wrong with you Kenyans ? In this day and age and your high schools class rooms look like this?

Black boards with desks looking like Ghana primary schools in 2010. Kenyan high school teachers might be getting sick from using chalk.


The problem with putting kids in community high school that are day school is that you end up with kids that are unexposed and remain in their small cocoons knowing nothing and the school is usually Empty with low enrollment.
They usually have poor academic because they are not exposed
An example is this high school in Kenya Mathare-ini Secondary School

The fate of a secondary school in Murang’a hangs in the balance after parents transferred their children to other institutions citing low enrollment and poor academic performance.

Parents at Mathare-ini Secondary School in Kigumo took the drastic action after the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) transferred eight teachers to other institutions owing to low enrollment.

When the school opened for first term, parents withdrew their children, leaving principal Patrick Kamau stunned.

Events at the school featured prominently on social media platforms, with residents calling for speedy intervention to save the facility from closure.

READ MORE
Knec says exams will be fair, warns over cheating

Cybercrime experts deployed to curb cheating in exams

School calendar returns to normalcy in January 2023

Government orders school heads with learners' certificates to release them

For four days, local leaders have held meetings in an attempt to save the institution.

Parents’ decision

The decision to withdraw students, Saturday Standard has learnt, was reached during the holidays. Last year, the school run without Form Two students.

There were 18 students in Form One and 13 in Form Three. The school had 26 Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education (KCSE) candidates.

When the school opened for its first term, the 21 students who were to proceed to the next classes failed to show up. Judy Waithira, a parent, said they opted to withdraw their children after eight teachers were moved on grounds of low enrolment.

The parents also cited poor performance in KCSE.

“Low enrolment has been a challenge but we have put in mechanisms to attract more learners this year,” a confident Kamau said.

“The situation is not bad. We expect that by next week, there will be learners in the school,” said Kigumo Deputy Director of Education Paul Kigaya.

Boarding school will always remain superior to these kinds of results.... You have kids from the best rich international schools, ministers children, MPs children and kids from poor village schools all meeting in the same high school. This create Equity and Equality on the same baseline to receive the same Quality education in Ghana.

obaaderemi:
Don't mind that idiot. Their oldest secondary School started in 1902 or 1905. The one he is touting as their first secondary School started life as an elementary missionary school at a town called Rabai near Mombasa. Believe little Indians at your peril. These threads have taught us that.

Always projecting their worse nightmare unto others

obaaderemi:
Any wonder they continue to show high level of dumbness here?

I'm not surprised these days

Usually I expect it from them

There are two cohorts..one under CBC and old system.CBC will likely do their junior secondary in same primary...it will be moronic to send such small kids to stay in high school.They will simply wear different uniform from primary and be taught secondary curriculum in same primary...this will solve the boarding mess and leave it as senior secondary thing

Just40:
What has Kenya done to receive 2.4 million students into high school in 2023? The High schools in Kenya only have a capacity for 1 million kids
Kenyan govt has failed completely at expanding infrastructure so chaos will ensue

rvp20182:
That scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find a failed day school.Schools main aim is not feed or allow kids to meet or fraternize with minister kids...it's to provide quality teaching experience.The rest they can get in their village or town or home... minister sons and daughters come from some village I hope

There are plenty of failed schools in Kenya already...
Many of your high school can't manage to have at least 100 students because of lack of staff, poor infrastructure and poor performance..

Kenyan parents will rather send their kids to some far away boarding school and pay through their teeth than to have them in community schools with poor results.

You keep wondering why you society keep failing and so tribalistic .. and it all stem from the fact that your society is not enter mixing and you have not created Equity for all and you have failed at providing equal opportunities for all.

This is what Ghana thrives at and that is why our HDI is far higher than yours.
Inter mixing brilliant students from Montessori with those from public primary create room for better co learning environment and poor students manage to thrive.

We've done this with all our top schools, push 30% of poor performing students to them and by the time their 3 years is over, those 30% all become brilliant students and masters of their craft.

rvp20182:
There are two cohorts..one under CBC and old system.CBC will likely do their junior secondary in same primary...it will be moronic to send such small kids to stay in high school.They will simply wear different uniform from primary and be taught secondary curriculum in same primary...this will solve the boarding mess and leave it as senior secondary thing

your minister says they are all going to senior high school and will make them day students... So you're going to have 1.5 million kids who trek for 10km to 20kms just to have an education.

Your country does not have the money to provide class rooms and teachers.


Ghana was able to do the same 2 streams some years back when we reformed from 3 years to 4 years and also back from 4 years to 3 years because we had lots of infrastructure at our various secondary schools.

We did it successful with quality even increasing

Just40:
Wesley Girls only moved to their new campus in that year... While their school was founded in 1836
Don't rant when I'm speaking facts

Next rant

Maybe you don't know the history of that school.
obaboon is dumb, ignore him. He doesn't know that Schools in 80s were majorly motivated by missionary movements.

Wesley Girls’ High School was founded by the wife of the 2nd Methodist Missionary to the Gold Coast, Mrs. Harriet Wrigley in 1836 with 25 girls.

Mind you, the term high school was not there, by then. The main aim for establishing that school was to offer basic education --- for missionary activities.

Her aim was to give the girls basic training in housekeeping and Catechism. Subjects taught included writing, reading, sewing and religious education. Classes were held at the Manse, in the Standfast Hall near the Victoria Park in Cape Coast.

The lady dies and it takes a whooping 43year for the second wife to convert it into a high school --- 43 yrs was for the basic foundation and plans to set the school to a highschool.

However, five months after arrival, Mrs. Wrigley died. It was not until 1837 that an efficient school head in the person of Mrs. Elizabeth Waldron took over the running of the school. She administered the school for 43 good year and laid a solid foundation for what was to become the Wesleyan Girls’ School and Training Home. Values such as fortitude, integrity and truthfulness soon become the hallmarks of the products of the school.


43 years down the line, the school was upgraded to a girls highschool with only 20 students. This is the time it gained a highschool status.
Theiracademic ability encouraged the Methodist church to agree to the provision of higher education for girls. Consequently, in 1884, Rev. W.M. Cannell who was then the Headmaster of Mfantsipim School started the Secondary section with 20 girls.


So the school was converted into a secondary in 1884.

obaaderemi:
Don't mind that idiot. Their oldest secondary School started in 1902 or 1905. The one he is touting as their first secondary School started life as an elementary missionary school at a town called Rabai near Mombasa. Believe little Indians at your peril. These threads have taught us that.

Once again, Your cognitive ceiling of below 50% is in display, not surprised!
Majority of high schools both in Kenya, Ghana and of course your zoo were established as missionary schools.