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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 2:18pm On Nov 28, 2022
Apartheid is a germane issue in South Africa - sports, education and everything. The racial disparity is the elephant in the room. How do you want us to discuss the squirrels?

In fact if you understood the reality of that racial disparity, it won't suprise you when I say kenya has better education than South Africa.

It because of that racial divide - where bantustan inferior education lingers on - next to world class white minority education.

jl115:
typical Kenyan argument....we went from debates around rugby and education, but when you get destroyed you bring race in to the equation
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 2:22pm On Nov 28, 2022
Akan is the largest ethnic group in Ghana, making up 47.3% of the population of Ghana (Ghana Statistical Service 2013:61). They comprise the Bono, Asante, Adanse, Twifo, Asen, Fante, Akuapem, Akyem, Akwamu, Kwahu, Sehwi, Awowin, Nzima and Ahanta (Buah 1998:cool.

What pray are you uniting in boarding schools?

vankelvin:
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Typical of you, so stupid and confidently ignorant

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 2:32pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Akan is the largest ethnic group in Ghana, making up 47.3% of the population of Ghana (Ghana Statistical Service 2013:61). They comprise the Bono, Asante, Adanse, Twifo, Asen, Fante, Akuapem, Akyem, Akwamu, Kwahu, Sehwi, Awowin, Nzima and Ahanta (Buah 1998:cool.

What pray are you uniting in boarding schools?
you're just mad... Even among the Akans, there were no unity
Asantes against fantes
Asantes against Akyems
Nzema and Ahantas minding their business
Asantes against Bonos
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 2:34pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Akan is the largest ethnic group in Ghana, making up 47.3% of the population of Ghana (Ghana Statistical Service 2013:61). They comprise the Bono, Asante, Adanse, Twifo, Asen, Fante, Akuapem, Akyem, Akwamu, Kwahu, Sehwi, Awowin, Nzima and Ahanta (Buah 1998:cool.

What pray are you uniting in boarding schools?
We all know Akan Ethnic group constitutes the largest percentage of our population but what ignorant people like you don't know is the Akan Ethnic group consists of Twi and non-Twi speaking tribes

The Nzema's, Sefwi, Ahanta and the likes are Non-Twi speaking tribes so when they speak their languages the Twi speaking Akans can't comprehend. And even among the Twi speaking tribes the Fante's(which others consider as non-Twi), Bono and the Akuapim tribes speak totally different Twi.

Moreso all the other Ethnic groups together makes up over 55% so what's your point?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 2:37pm On Nov 28, 2022
Korea 0
Ghana 2
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 2:43pm On Nov 28, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 3:01pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Apartheid is a germane issue in South Africa - sports, education and everything. The racial disparity is the elephant in the room. How do you want us to discuss the squirrels?

In fact if you understood the reality of that racial disparity, it won't suprise you when I say kenya has better education than South Africa.

It because of that racial divide - where bantustan inferior education lingers on - next to world class white minority education.
- its not relevant...you only use it when you are losing an argument.

- And yet Black South Africans still have a better secondary and tertiarily attainment rate than Kenya....nearly double in fact, hence your argument still holds no water.

- see above
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:11pm On Nov 28, 2022
I dont care about such provincial details of Ghana. The point is your tribal differences are mild compared to kenya and your boarding school contribution to national cohesion is exaggerated.
vankelvin:
We all know Akan Ethnic group constitutes the largest percentage of our population but what ignorant people like you don't know is the Akan Ethnic group consists of Twi and non-Twi speaking tribes

The Nzema's, Sefwi, Ahanta and the likes are Non-Twi speaking tribes so when they speak their languages the Twi speaking Akans can't comprehend. And even among the Twi speaking tribes the Fante's(which others consider as non-Twi), Bono and the Akuapim tribes speak totally different Twi.

Moreso all the other Ethnic groups together makes up over 55% so what's your point?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:13pm On Nov 28, 2022
All I hear everytime we argue is that black south africans get measured by African standards and the Boer by world class standards. That is Apartheid drilled into you.
jl115:
- its not relevant...you only use it when you are losing an argument.

- And yet Black South Africans still have a better secondary and tertiarily attainment rate than Kenya....nearly double in fact, hence your argument still holds no water.

- see above
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 3:42pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
All I hear everytime we argue is that black south africans get measured by African standards and the Boer by world class standards. That is Apartheid drilled into you.
nope, only you try to make those comparisons
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mdntiri(m): 4:09pm On Nov 28, 2022
vankelvin:
To add to it, boarding school system promotes national cohesion.

One of the reasons Ghana has remained peaceful till date is because of our boarding system.
In our boarding schools you will find students from almost every Region in one school and that help students to learn new things. By the time you complete SHS you would have become more tolerant and enlightened about other tribes than you were before.

Today there's almost no tribal conflicts in Ghana because of some of these deliberate policies and systems we have in place.

A tribally polarized country like Kenya should learn from Ghana. Boarding system is very expensive but it's the best.
Thank you Van. Even the expensive boarding system lots of stuff can be done to beat it down if we really want to. Etc etc
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:26pm On Nov 28, 2022
Ended 2-3. They won but still leaking goals. They now have some chance to qualify - depending on Urugay match.
obaaderemi:
Korea 0

Ghana 2
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:27pm On Nov 28, 2022
You make it explicit everytime - it's like you're doing them a favour and look you're still better than other africans - some be thankful.
jl115:
nope, only you try to make those comparisons
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:29pm On Nov 28, 2022
You're still on stone age.

In kenya - the question really has been to totally abolish them or gradually abolish them.

"Boarding secondary schools will be abolished gradually, Education Cabinet Secretary George Magoha has announced, rejecting a proposal for the immediate closure of the institutions."

However, Kahi argues that despite the benefits boarding school provide, long isolation of children from society makes it harder for them to learn and appreciate their culture, relationships and bond with their families.

"The role of the family in a child's formative years cannot be duplicated by an educator," Kahi said.

Two major teachers unions in the country have come out to call for the total abolishing of boarding schools in the country whether public or private.

The two unions claim that the boarding schools have nothing much to add to the education of the children learning there but it is only the buildings for sleeping and adding costs to parents with no apparent reason.

Kenya National Union of Teachers - KNUT secretary general Wilson Sossion and Kenya Union of Post Primary Education Teachers - KUPPET chairman Omboko Milemba are of the opinion that time is ripe to bring to an end the era of boarding schools in the country.

However they insist that all schools across the country should have proper infrastructure and human resource to accommodate all the children so that they each can get quality education regardless of where they are based.
mdntiri:
Thank you Van. Even the expensive boarding system lots of stuff can be done to beat it down if we really want to. Etc etc
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 4:51pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
You make it explicit everytime - it's like you're doing them a favour and look you're still better than other africans - some be thankful.
nope, you guys say things like "its because of whites" or Because "Boers" then I just post the facts that even if you take away the White population South Africans are still ahead in all indexes
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 5:11pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
Ended 2-3. They won but still leaking goals. They now have some chance to qualify - depending on Urugay match.
What do you mean "leaking goals"? Korea itself is a decent team, even Uruguay could not beat them. Ghana putting 3 past them is remarkable.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 6:29pm On Nov 28, 2022
I mean, help, my defense is leaking goals. That should be the cry from Ghana coach. Their attack game is excellent but they have to stop leaking that many goals in world cup.
obaaderemi:
What do you mean "leaking goals"? Korea itself is a decent team, even Uruguay could not beat them. Ghana putting 3 past them is remarkable.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 6:47pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
I mean, help, my defense is leaking goals. That should be the cry from Ghana coach. Their attack game is excellent but they have to stop leaking that many goals in world cup.
I guess you think football is a one team game
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:04pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
I mean, help, my defense is leaking goals. That should be the cry from Ghana coach. Their attack game is excellent but they have to stop leaking that many goals in world cup.
Football doesn't work that way, especially when you are up against a good team. They study you and capitalize on your weakness. That's where the problem is: as you work hard to stem the tide of attacks, you are at the same time working hard to capitalize on your opponent's weakness too.

It's like warfare, I've said that here before. You fight with strategies in football. Miss a step and you are dead. Plus it's a team sport and you have to cover up for one another. That's how the Dutch came up with "total football".
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin:
rvp2018:
I dont care about such provincial details of Ghana. The point is your tribal differences are mild compared to kenya and your boarding school contribution to national cohesion is exaggerated.
Excuses as always, your people are tribalists and effective boarding system will help them to tolerate each other
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 7:50pm On Nov 28, 2022
samorobo:
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He traveled alot and broke bread with a lot of people to secure that deal.
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mdntiri(m): 7:57pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
I dont care about such provincial details of Ghana. The point is your tribal differences are mild compared to kenya and your boarding school contribution to national cohesion is exaggerated.
So you guys NEED the boarding school system the most with your 'no dominant ' ethnic group, unlike Ghana where the Akans dominate with almost 50% peopling

Your kalenjins, kikuyus, luhyas etc don't command even up to 20% of the population.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
Tribal difference are not because kids have never mixed. That is most pedestrian view. People meet on the streets, fall in love and marry.
Heck even in most apartheid of south africa - it had the most prolific mixed marriages - people dont have issues with each other at personal level.
The main issues that divide countries are political exclusions - unfairness in gov jobs, development and opportunities
This is what breeds tribal divisions and cause civil wars.
We got a metldown in 2007 - very tame compared to many countries - but luckly realized we had to change.
We enacted a new constitution that is fairer to everyone...even Indians or Whites are now feeling Kenyan.
Kenya is addressing this through modern 2010 constitution that requires all gov appointment to reflect the face of kenya.
If Akan is 50% - their appointment should be 50% - split into women, disabled, name it - and subtribes. If they are 1% indians - they deserve 1 percent appointment. If they are 0.005 percent they deserve 0.005 percent of money/jobs.
Every county or region in kenya now receives their allocations of national budget.
Every Const in kenya also receive fair allocation for development.
Kenya is also addressing such issues this through strong institutions like judiciary and independent bodies.
The results - we have risen from bottom of fragile nations with Nigeria - to now No 30.
The schools teaches kids Kiswahili, English and national ethos. That is more than enough.
You can board them - all year long - and they are likely to become gay - than less tribal.
Because if you discriminate them in jobs, development and opportunities - they will become tribal afterall.

Good example - Kenya high court has stopped Ruto appointed PS - because some people feel it was not representative enough.

The High Court has stopped the ongoing vetting of permanent secretaries by Parliament, pending the determination of a case filed by the Law Society.

The LSK says in the petition that the list of 51 PSs presented to Parliament for vetting and approval for not depict the national representation including the youth, persons with disabilities, the marginalised and gender balance.

The LSK says in the petition the list as presented to Parliament does not take into account the regional and tribal balance, two-thirds gender rule principle, persons with disabilities and the youth.

And this also true for all gov tenders - certain percentages in kenya are reserved for women, person with disablities and youth.

All gov institution, SOES and agenices are regularly audited to ensure there is regional, ethnic, women, youth and disabled balanced as required by constitution


mdntiri:
So you guys NEED the boarding school system the most with your 'no dominant ' ethnic group, unlike Ghana where the Akans dominate with almost 50% peopling

Your kalenjins, kikuyus, luhyas etc don't command even up to 20% of the population.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 8:16pm On Nov 28, 2022
Let's give kudos to kudus of Ghana .,.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:23pm On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
He was a refugee who found a home in Kenya after being kicked out by military - and there were many Ghanians - all over the world running away from their military rule - and now they still run away from their economic mess - despite all the gold. The guy had been CJ in Ghana and kenya gave him the caretaker role. I dont see any of that as being exemplary...of Gh[b]ana or of him. He was chief justice refugee who found use.[/b]
Hope you know you are typing gibberish? You call a man who rose from your chief judge to justice a commoner?when he become cheif justice of kenya, Kenya has no one to occupy the office . He was at the mercy of a Ghanaian, the receiver of your of the golden heart ( number two most important award kenya ) can bestowed on anybody.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:11pm On Nov 28, 2022
Get facts right. He was Ghana CJ latest 1986 when Rawling kicked him out. He came to kenya seeking refuge. Took a demotion to become a Court of Appeal judge in 1986 till 1993 when he was appointed for two years as CJ retiring 1995. He should have been in Ghana helping you seek justice but Rawling was busy executing and excelling Ghanian elite.

Conclusion; He had to be court of appeal judge in kenya for 7 yrs before he could qualify to be CJ - something he had held in Ghana for long. That mean Kenya Judiciary was way ahead of Ghana.

vaxx:
Hope you know you are typing gibberish? You call a man who rose from your chief judge to justice a commoner?when he become cheif justice of kenya, Kenya has no one to occupy the office . He was at the mercy of a Ghanaian, the receiver of your of the golden heart ( number two most important award kenya ) can bestowed on anybody.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Baller254: 1:33am On Nov 29, 2022
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:52pm On Nov 29, 2022
Nairobi starting to nail paving. Still long way to get to Kigali and Rwanda but good progress the last few years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pS2JuQNrLk&t=678s
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 4:18pm On Nov 29, 2022
rvp2018:
Nairobi starting to nail paving. Still long way to get to Kigali and Rwanda but good progress the last few years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pS2JuQNrLk&t=678s
What is kigali and rwanda, isn't kigali the capital city of rwanda, you are just a registered idiot. Gibberish full this your mouth .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:26pm On Nov 29, 2022
Of course I know Rwanda - been there severally. You should ask why I deliberate did that. Rwanda generally even remote towns have nailed basic like good paving/no potholes. Kigali is on another level.

You can drive in Rwanda and not hit a pothole. It surreal. Wherever there is tarmac - it tarmac - not potholed roads like Ghana - which form videos & youtubers reviews has one worst quality of roads.

vaxx:
What is kigali and rwanda, isn't kigali the capital city of rwanda, you are just a registered idiot. Gibberish full this your mouth .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 4:28pm On Nov 29, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 4:54pm On Nov 29, 2022
rvp2018:
Of course I know Rwanda - been there severally. You should ask why I deliberate did that. Rwanda generally even remote towns have nailed basic like good paving/no potholes. Kigali is on another level.

You can drive in Rwanda and not hit a pothole. It surreal. Wherever there is tarmac - it tarmac - not potholed roads like Ghana - which form videos & youtubers reviews has one worst quality of roads.
Then talk like well- feed child , are you part of the underfeed turkana adult suffri from the drought? my dear registered idiot , Ghana is acknowledge Internationally for having one of the best road network in the region .

Are you talking about rwanda which most roadways are not marked and with a high absence of streetlights ?

You mean the country that just constructed it's first and only flyover in 2022. better than Ghana? You must be mad. I have lost count of flyover in Accra .

Anyway Accra has the highest flyover in west africa, second longest interchange in africa , the longest is in south africa .
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