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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
But to the wider public at the time, runners from east Africa were not considered serious contenders for middle-distance and distance medals. Although the Ethiopian Abebe Bikila had won the marathon in 1960 (famously running barefoot) and 1964, Kenya had only ever won one bronze medal, in the 800m in Tokyo, in 1964. Black runners may have been winning the sprints for years, but there was a belief at the time that distance running was more cerebral and so better suited to the supposedly more ‘sophisticated’ white runners from Europe and America.

https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/training/motivation/a34396756/kip-keino-1968/

This is the day Kipchoge turned middle- and long-distance running upside down. He was running against a great American legend Jim Ryun - and he was sick - but he shattered the field - the white man is still stumped.

World Record holder Ryun had won 47 straight 1500m./miles going into this race and in their previous meetings completely dominated Keino..The Kenyan,fearing Ryun's awesome last lap kick set off on a suicidal third lap of 58.1 seconds to try and nullify the threat and it worked a treat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_9AAy7yZTc
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 8:29pm On Dec 01, 2022
Balogunodua:
His IQ is below zero grin
obaaderemi:
Brutal! grin
grin grin

Someone is still bitter.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:44pm On Dec 01, 2022
rvp2018:
First athletics is huge competitive sports with many events; it just that kenyans are so good.
Ethiopia marathon runner Abebe Bikila was 1st African to win marathon but Ethiopeans didnt dominate - he was just a freak talent then.
Europeans continued to dominate althetics until 1968 olympics when legendary Kipchoge Keino arrived in the scene - shattering the field despite being sick.

"Kip Keino’s breathtaking 1500m gold at the 1968 Mexico Olympics sparked the rise of Kenyan running, challenged perceptions about race and inspired a generation around the world"

Thus, began Kenyan dominance.

Initially the white man had concluded that black or African had no discipline or mental toughness to run anything beyond 100m dash. That he is because they were used to west african lazy cowardly negro - who had no discipline, no mental toughness and no courage.

Like Kipchoge - it would also take another Kenyan Obama to become US president.
Ode, you will learn by force. grin
Abebe Bikila, (born August 7, 1932, Mont, Ethiopia—died
October 25, 1973, Addis Ababa), Ethiopian marathon
runner who won a gold medal and set a world record
while running barefoot at the 1960 Olympic Games in
Rome, then bested his own record at the 1964 Olympics
in Tokyo.
Bikila shocked them in 1960 then bested his own record in 1964, it was then your stupiid lazy forefathers realized they could win something at the Olympics
If west Africans were lazy it might interest you that as far back as 1936 Olympics blacks who were mainly of West African background had been beating the whites. So where you get your narrative of lazy blacks from is unclear. Don't just say Nonsense because you are losing an argument, R I P. grin

Long distance running is nothing. It's merely based on geography. That's why dirt poor countries like Kenya and Ethiopia can do well at it.

Bottomline: you have no sports in little India save the one geography gave you. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:48pm On Dec 01, 2022
You're inventing your own theories.
During Eugenics and Apartheid - including in Civil right movements.
Part of reason why Negro (west african to be precise because east african were uknown) were thought incapable
Was their total lack of running ability beyond 400m
Heck even in South Africa - it was the Boer who use to run - and African just couldnt.

It was well know for years that black man could not run long distance because he was lazy, cowardly and had no discipline.

Kenyan changed that perception.

And we did it by training with incredible discipline and commitment - by being very brave and couragous.

Running short distance is easy beezy. Try to train and run marathon at time kenyans run. It takes MONK like months of discipline.

The idea that middle- and long-distance running is easy is quite frankly borne out of kenya incredible success that has made it look easy

Running a marathon and dominating it like Eliud Kipchoge does is SUPERHUMAN. It's the ultimate test of the human physical and mental strength. Nobody trains like athletes. Nobody sacrifices like they do. Nobody is as brave as they are.

Obaboon by 200m you're about fainting - by 800m you're dead smiley Kipchoge has just about not even started - he still need to go 42kms on hard tarmac at incredibly fast pace - less than a minute for 400m.

obaaderemi:
Ode, you will learn by force. grin

Bikila shocked them in 1960 then bested his own record in 1964, it was then your stupiid lazy forefathers realized they could win something at the Olympics
If west Africans were lazy it might interest you that as far back as 1936 Olympics blacks who were mainly of West African background had been beating the whites. So where you get your narrative of lazy blacks from is unclear. Don't just say Nonsense because you are losing an argument, R I P. grin

Long distance running is nothing. It's merely based on geography. That's why dirt poor countries like Kenya and Ethiopia can do well at it.

Bottomline: you have no sports in little India save the one geography gave you. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:52pm On Dec 01, 2022
Bikila, the man who opened the way. 1960 and 1964. Not some lazy unintelligent little Indians who had it in them due to geography but never knew they could do it. grin

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 8:53pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Bottomline: you have no sports in little India save the one geography gave you. grin
wink grin

Defending African Champions

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:55pm On Dec 01, 2022
https://www.iol.co.za/sport/kipchoge-keino-is-africas-best-332265

The father of African and Ethiopian distance-running was the legendary Abebe Bikila.

Running barefoot over the cobblestones of Rome in 1960, Bikila won the marathon. Four years later and barely three weeks after an emergency appendectomy operation, he retained his title and won by over four minutes.

The greatest African athlete, many believe, comes from Ethiopia's neighbour, Kenya.

It was not records nor titles that made Kenya's Kipchoge Keino the outstanding African athlete of this century, but the manner of his victories and of one race in particular that raised him above all others from the world's leading continent in distance running

obaaderemi:
Bikila, the man who opened the way. 1960 and 1964. Not some lazy unintelligent little Indians who had it in them due to geography but never knew they could do it. grin

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
To the idiot who keeps measuring west africa standard. Jamaica are the best in sprinter and majority of jamaican are from west africa ( Ghana precisely.


If west africa currently are not dominating it now , it doesn't mean we don't have the capacity, we just don't consider it entertaining enough to spend our resources and time like world most popular sport ( football) .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:00pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Bikila, the man who opened the way. 1960 and 1964. Not some lazy unintelligent little Indians who had it in them due to geography but never knew they could do it. grin
Sports in Nigeria is non-existent!

This is going down today. cool
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi4NOU5XEAI1I20.jpg
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:00pm On Dec 01, 2022
rvp2018:
You're inventing your own theories.
During Eugenics and Apartheid - including in Civil right movements.
Part of reason why Negro (west african to be precise because east african were uknown) were thought incapable
Was their total lack of running ability beyond 400m
Heck even in South Africa - it was the Boer who use to run - and African just couldnt.

It was well know for years that black man could not run long distance because he was lazy, cowardly and had no discipline.

Kenyan changed that perception.

And we did it by training with incredible discipline and commitment - by being very brave and couragous.

Running short distance is easy beezy. Try to train and run marathon at time kenyans run. It takes MONK like months of discipline.

The idea that middle- and long-distance running is easy is quite frankly borne out of kenya incredible success that has made it look easy

Running a marathon and dominating it like Kipchoge does is SUPERHUMAN. It's the ultimate test of the human physical and mental strength. Nobody trains like athletes. Nobody sacrifices like they do. Nobody is as brave as they are.

Obaboon by 200m you're about fainting - by 800m you're dead smiley Kipchoge has just about not even started - he still need to go 42kms on hard tarmac at incredibly fast pace - less than a minute for 400m.
Naturally your people are lazy and unintelligent. Why do you think you don't do well in other sports?

R I P, it's all geography. That's why long distance running is no longer competitive. There's nothing to it. Just putting one leg after another. grin See what science found out here.

Several factors have been
proposed to explain the extraordinary success of the
Kenyan and Ethiopian distance runners, including (1)
genetic predisposition, (2) development of a high maximal
oxygen uptake as a result of extensive walking and
running at an early age, (3) relatively high hemoglobin and
hematocrit, (4) development of good metabolic
"economy/efficiency" based on somatotype and lower
limb characteristics, (5) favorable skeletal-muscle-fiber
composition and oxidative enzyme profile, (6) traditional
Kenyan/Ethiopian diet, (7) living and training at altitude.
Geography, geography and geography. Nothing inventive. Shame.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:02pm On Dec 01, 2022
What is geographically unique in kenya and Ethiopia? That other countries dont have including in the region?

obaaderemi:
Naturally your people are lazy and unintelligent. Why do you think you don't do well in other sports?

R I P, it's all geography. That's why long distance running is no longer competitive. There's nothing to it. Just putting one leg after another. grin See what science found out here.



Geography, geography and geography. Nothing inventive. Shame.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:03pm On Dec 01, 2022
rvp2018:
https://www.iol.co.za/sport/kipchoge-keino-is-africas-best-332265

The father of African and Ethiopian distance-running was the legendary Abebe Bikila.

Running barefoot over the cobblestones of Rome in 1960, Bikila won the marathon. Four years later and barely three weeks after an emergency appendectomy operation, he retained his title and won by over four minutes.
End of Discussion!
Thank you for posting this, R I P. grin I'm out of this silly argument since you already capitulated. Everything else is grasping at straws by you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:04pm On Dec 01, 2022
Of course you're out because your theory that long distance running is easy is completely wrong. Short distance running is easy. Football is easy
obaaderemi:
End of Discussion!
Thank you for posting this, R I P. grin I'm out of this silly argument since you already capitulated. Everything else is grasping at straws by you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:05pm On Dec 01, 2022
For long time white man theory was African (Ghanian) could only do sprints because it was easy - like Ghanian sitting under a coconut tree waiting for coconut to fall. You just sprint 100m or 400m max. And you're out. If they ask you to run 800m or more youre too lazy or even afraid you might die in the process.

All you do in 100m is to give it your all - power through - no time for strategy.

From 800M it start becoming difficult because you have to strategize...heck 800M is most difficult because it btw sprinting and strategizing...it becomes very technical and you need discipline.

The rest takes lot more discipline, pacing yourself, watching the clock, training harder and name it.

vaxx:
To the idiot who keeps measuring west africa standard. Jamaica are the best in sprinter and majority of jamaican are from west africa ( Ghana precisely.


If west africa currently are not dominating it now , it doesn't mean we don't have the capacity, we just don't consider entertaining enough to spend our resources and time like world most popular sport ( football) .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:11pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Naturally your people are lazy and unintelligent. Why do you think you don't do well in other sports?

R I P, it's all geography. That's why long distance running is no longer competitive. There's nothing to it. Just putting one leg after another. grin See what science found out here.

Geography, geography and geography. Nothing inventive. Shame.
Nov 26

Kenya hosted the Triathlon Africa Cup. So much for geography!! grin cheesy

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:14pm On Dec 01, 2022
We keep telling them in Africa sports - South Africa, Egypt and Kenya - are in other league. Kenya is almost always up there in almost everything because we are functioning country. Not a zoo.
gallivant:
Nov 26

Kenya hosted the Triathlon Africa Cup. So much for geography!! grin cheesy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FifyXIRWQAIthGd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FifyXIKXoAAaDrt.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FifyXILX0AAilSf.jpg
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:18pm On Dec 01, 2022
vaxx:
To the idiot who keeps measuring west africa standard. Jamaica are the best in sprinter and majority of jamaican are from west africa ( Ghana precisely.


If west africa currently are not dominating it now , it doesn't mean we don't have the capacity, we just don't consider entertaining enough to spend our resources and time like world most popular sport ( football) .
only football can bring this kind of joy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hteANb_A4ZM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVOWmU3pAVw
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:20pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
End of Discussion!
Thank you for posting this, R I P. grin I'm out of this silly argument since you already capitulated. Everything else is grasping at straws by you.
Bye Obaboon. Nigeria can't hack it!!

Nov 26

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:30pm On Dec 01, 2022
Or this kenya women archery

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:44pm On Dec 01, 2022
I'm enjoying what the Japanese are doing to Spain grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:47pm On Dec 01, 2022
Just40:
only football can bring this kind of joy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hteANb_A4ZM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVOWmU3pAVw
Are you watching Spain Japan? Mad game. Japan is holding on by the teeth.
Only football can make one feel this way. No other sport connects the world like football but some skeletons will never get it.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:50pm On Dec 01, 2022
Just40:
I'm enjoying what the Japanese are doing to Spain grin
Even Germany. Costa Rica aimed to send them out. grin
Let's see what you do against Uruguay tomorrow.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:51pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Even Germany. Costa Rica aimed to send them out. grin
Let's see what you do against Uruguay tomorrow.
I can't believe Germany is struggling not to be sent home and it is dependent on Spain not losinggrin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:54pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Are you watching Spain Japan? Mad game. Japan is holding on by the teeth.
Only football can make one feel this way. No other sport connects the world like football but some skeletons will never get it.
the game is over with Japan topping the group grin

Germany going out in group stages grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:59pm On Dec 01, 2022
Just40:
the game is over with Japan topping the group grin

Germany going out in group stages grin grin
Germany out again like in 2018. So much for "The Germans have the right mentality". Costa Rica even messed up the German's goal difference.

Football no be anybody's mate, abeg. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:59pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Even Germany. Costa Rica aimed to send them out. grin
Let's see what you do against Uruguay tomorrow.
At a time, it looked like both Germany and Spain were going out cheesy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:01pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Germany out again like in 2018. So much for "The Germans have the right mentality". Costa Rica even messed up the German's goal difference.

Football no be anybody's mate, abeg. grin
Football is definitely the most competitive sport in the world. Just too many countries in the world can play football.
It is therefore no coincidence that the FIFA World Cup is amongst the top two most watched sports tournament in the World.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 10:04pm On Dec 01, 2022
GeneralDae:
At a time in both games it looked like both Germany and Spain were going out cheesy.
I was actually rooting for Costa Rica.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 10:06pm On Dec 01, 2022
GeneralDae:
Football is definitely the most competitive sport in the world. Just too many countries in the world can play football.
It is therefore no coincidence that the FIFA World Cup is amongst the top two most watched sports tournament in the World.
Only a madman and an extremely envious person whose country can't hack it would argue to the contrary. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:10pm On Dec 01, 2022
grin[b][/b]
GeneralDae:
At a time, it looked like both Germany and Spain were going out cheesy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:11pm On Dec 01, 2022
obaaderemi:
Germany out again like in 2018. So much for "The Germans have the right mentality". Costa Rica even messed up the German's goal difference.

Football no be anybody's mate, abeg. grin
Spain was only saved by that 7 goals they scored grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:13pm On Dec 01, 2022
When is Nigeria playing. Let Ghanian speak at least for next few hours before KQ jet takes them back home together with Cameroon. So far only Morocco seem to be doing great.
obaaderemi:
Only a madman and an extremely envious person whose country can't hack it would argue to the contrary. grin
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