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rvp2018:
In every sector indigenous black Kenyans have worked their way up to compete with formerly privileged Asians and Whites; I am doubtful the Azian here is making any progress down in South Africa.

And I think that elephant in room when you look at South Africa - for how much longer will the boer dominate the slum dweller here?

We cannot just sweep everything under the rug - elephant in room in South Africa rugby is the boer continued dominance.

In the apartheid era, rugby was racially segregated with blacks barred from representing the Springboks.

I suggest they should even change the team name from Springboks to something Shaka Zulu Boys.

It's not the same thing. You didn't suffer apartheid. Men were separated from their families and many children and women were sent to "homelands". It was terrible. The whole thing crumbled only in 1990. Most of the blacks are just coming to terms with the new status quo.

But what is the excuse for Indians dominating you in business in Kenya?

jl115:
listen muppet you fvcks made it about race not us.... Your excuse for Kenya being behind SA is always because of whites.... do you feel so inferior to whites that you use it as an excuse for your own inadequacies at every turn?

Yes, I did, so what? What I said was gospel truth! SA is the most unequal Nation in the world. Racial segregation is still reigning supreme. But that is not the point I wanted to make. You're pushing me to spill extra unnecessary content.

Shma2022:
Yes, I did, so what? What I said was gospel truth! SA is the most unequal Nation in the world. Racial segregation is still reigning supreme. But that is not the point I wanted to make. You're pushing me to spill extra unnecessary content.

Supreme where

AfriqueDuZuid:
Why would zulus take 90% while they 20% of population n khoisan is less than 1%

Certain group people will Excell in certain sports

White, indians, chinese, colored people makes less than 20% of your population. Zulu and other ethnic tribes singlehandedly swallow all the foreign natives. My point is don't shout at us when your colonizers are still doing
everything in your country.

AfriqueDuZuid:
lol again who is landless?

You love crediting whites, SA is doing better than many so called white countries. Even in springboks the people winning points are blacks..... But I see what you trying to do, trying to make it a race thing

Nah diversity wins

Black SA in majority are landless.

Boers owns your previous land, Yes! Your ancestral land is owned by Boers.

huge chunk of blacks in SA are beggars,
robbers, drug loads, and criminals... And they mostly live in slums.

AfriqueDuZuid:
You anti diversity! You a white ass kisser! Period!

Your excuse for coming short against SA is always "but we don't have minerals" "but white people" "but we lack funds"

Such a weak soul

Where is t he lie?

Minerals and whites are what makes south Africa. Nigeria is the real superpower if we decide to go by the bone of contention at hand. Then followed closely by kenya--- and then the rest, probably Ethiopia or Ghana.

For sports, Kenya is definitely the giant if we follow the same suit.

jl115:
As for the rest, well black SAns earn twice as much as you and the SAn Black Middle class is several times larger than yours so yeah....take away us Whities you feel so inferior to then you still miles behind SA in everything...... An all black springbok side would put 150 on the best Kenyan rugby side

Bozo, sometimes you reason like a dwarf. Why should you compare living standards of blacks in SA with Kenya? -- when the environment is
already white dominated. Like the whites have already made pretty much evertything to uplift a struggling black SAn.
Ok, Do you think negro in USA or UK are better of in those countries? No, I don't think so. They are the most discriminated -- most of them are gangsters, warloads, drug dealers and whatnot. Those people have their own issues --- predominantly the epitome of racial segregation, the worse --- The worst of it all. But their middle income is incomparable to any nation in Africa -- they are way richer because of the existing environment.

South Africa is generally ahead of kenya but the gap is closing pretty fast. 10yrs ago the gap was 10 times big; now it's merely 3 times; another decade; there wont be any gap. Unless the majority blacks wake up - South Africa is stuck.

jl115:
So you are saying Kenyan blacks can't compete with South African blacks or whites ..... We've heard it here first folks... Rvp admits Kenyans are below all SAns...

Yes their are transformation targets which the government would ideally want the national team to be like, however they cannot be inforced since international bodies will ban SA if they made qoutas mandatory hence the teams have always been chosen on merit..... Except for Temba Bavuma...

AfriqueDuZuid:
The only thing you dominate is marathon along with Ethiopians.

Nah you and Ethiopians share the marathon stage, marathons ill give you that!

There's no sports that you dominate other than marathon

what is wrong with marathon?

Do you stand Kenya in volleyball?
Do you have any skinny lazy Khoisan tennis players winning Australia opens?
Do you have any sprinters close to Kenyan?

Since you're slow, I will repeat. You're doing better in sports than Kenya. But my advice to you is join the Boers and Indians in winning. Don't let them do everything for you.

30yrs is long time not to make adjustment. The reality the black SA is not working on their weakness - they remain lazy, indolent and un-
educated.

It's in Nigeria where Indians dominate - not Kenya. Your entire manufacturing and even retail is held together by a million indians. Kenya has about 50K indians - and their dominance only exist in manufacturing - and that too is declining very fast.

Dangote alone annually ship in what maybe 30,000 indians - and you still allow him lots of state protectionism - so he can hire more indians.

Then Nigeria about 30,000 travel to India for medical and educational purposes..

You're more colonized by India than Kenya ever was.

obaaderemi:
It's not the same thing. You didn't suffer apartheid. Men were separated from their families and many children and women were sent to "homelands". It was terrible. The whole thing crumbled only in 1990. Most of the blacks are just coming to terms with the new status quo.

But what is the excuse for Indians dominating you in business in Kenya?

Shma2022:
Black SA in majority are landless.

Boers owns your previous land, Yes! Your ancestral land is owned by Boers.

huge chunk of blacks in SA are beggars,
robbers, drug loads, and criminals... And they mostly live in slums.

Lol country with biggest percentage of black middle class, with great standard of living

Country with less percentage of people living in slums

Go to any corner you'll find your zimbos, Mozambicans., neibours even some Kenyans in street lights begging in SA

AfriqueDuZuid:
Supreme where

1. South Africa Olympics squad
2. Kenya Olympics squad.

Shma2022:
White, indians, chinese, colored people makes less than 20% of your population. Zulu and other ethnic tribes singlehandedly swallow all the foreign natives. My point is don't shout at us when your colonizers are still doing
everything in your country.

SA black has dollar millionaires has multiplied tenfold
SA black middle class also.
Access to education, health, energy increased in the past 30 years. We had apartheid

Kenya has been independent for since 60s,what's your reason

AfriqueDuZuid:
Lol country with biggest percentage of black middle class, with great standard of living

Country with less percentage of people living in slums

Go to any corner you'll find your zimbos, Mozambicans., neibours even some Kenyans in street lights begging in SA

Dumbest reply.

When you finish crying, come back with a rational mind. You're spewing hot air.

Mind you, Kenyan population in SA is among the least. We don't go to xenophobia nation --- we're better off in Kenya than in SA.

Shma2022:
Dumbest reply.

When you finish crying, come back with a rational mind. You're spewing hot air.

Mind you, Kenyan population in SA is among the least. We don't go to xenophobia nation --- we're better off in Kenya than in SA.

Lol minimal but they on streetlight begging

rvp2018:
30yrs is long time not to make adjustment. The reality the black SA is not working on their weakness - they remain lazy, indolent and un-
educated.

It's in Nigeria where Indians dominate - not Kenya. Your entire manufacturing and even retail is held together by a million indians. Kenya has about 50K indians - and their dominance only exist in manufacturing - and that too is declining very fast.

Dangote alone annually ship in what maybe 30,000 indians - and you still allow him lots of state protectionism - so he can hire more indians.

Then Nigeria about 30,000 travel to India for medical and educational purposes..

You're more colonized by India than Kenya ever was.

again SA has the most educated population in africa after equitorial guinea

Shma2022:
what is wrong with marathon?

Do you stand Kenya in volleyball?
Do you have any skinny lazy Khoisan tennis players winning Australia opens?
Do you have any sprinters close to Kenyan?

Since you're slow, I will repeat. You're doing better in sports than Kenya. But my advice to you is join the Boers and Indians in winning. Don't let them do everything for you.

Bra akani simbini has been Africa champ for the longest, anaso jobodwana for 200m, wayde is record holder for 400m

Wayde Only runner to run sub 10 in 100m, sub 20 in 200m

Kenyan got 1 lucky runner for 100m now you think Kenya is a sprint nation?

You a marathon nation it ends there

AfriqueDuZuid:
SA black has dollar millionaires has multiplied tenfold
SA black middle class also.
Access to education, health, energy increased in the past 30 years. We had apartheid

Kenya has been independent for since 60s,what's your reason

Silly question.

Kenya in 1960s --- when we attained independence and chased the whites--- we were roadless, zoo, backward, paltry economy, no cities, no everything... Our president used to travel with a pickup and lorries.
Our GDP since then has ballooned, we have golden roads, cities, education facilities, health facilities, and pretty much everything. We are not yet there, yes... But we're not the same 60yrs ago.

South Africa is still under white man's care. Apartheid was just a catalyst for SA's development... You are weak, useless, and unable to chase those people. They are the reason why your country is doing well. Any attempt of chasing them will mean catastrophe to SA's economy, security, well-being -- and more or less everything.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Lol minimal but they on streetlight begging

We don't do that. That is not a Kenyan thing. Try another demeaning stunt... Those people you're seeing on streets begging are lazy khoisans.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Bra akani simbini has been Africa champ for the longest, anaso jobodwana for 200m, wayde is record holder for 400m

Wayde Only runner to run sub 10 in 100m, sub 20 in 200m

Kenyan got 1 lucky runner for 100m now you think Kenya is a sprint nation?

You a marathon nation it ends there

Huh, we have legends in both 400m, 200m and of course 100m... Fastest man in Africa, currently.

No south African has ever hit the 9.77s record. NONE!

rvp2018:
30yrs is long time not to make adjustment. The reality the black SA is not working on their weakness - they remain lazy, indolent and un-
educated.

It's in Nigeria where Indians dominate - not Kenya. Your entire manufacturing and even retail is held together by a million indians. Kenya has about 50K indians - and their dominance only exist in manufacturing - and that too is declining very fast.

Dangote alone annually ship in what maybe 30,000 indians - and you still allow him lots of state protectionism - so he can hire more indians.

Then Nigeria about 30,000 travel to India for medical and educational purposes..

You're more colonized by India than Kenya ever was.

Name the biggest companies in Nigeria, none belongs to an Indian. Yet we have more Indians in Nigeria than Kenya. They dominate your manufacturing, retail, etc. They're even the richest people in Kenya.

The bulk of dangotes workers are Nigerians, not Indians. Indians do not only dominate your industries, you even tout them as your success story. You can't talk about Kenyan businesses outside Kenya without pointing at the Indians. They've colonized not only your land but your minds.

Behind Dangote - is Indians; So all your biggest company Dangote cement, sugar, oil, fertilizers; are managed and run by Indians. Dangote daughters and sons just run the accounts and the foundations.

There many black kenya business men whose business have expanded -example no is Humphrey Kariuki - with many business in downstream oil (dalbit - run petrol operations in 10 countries), power stations in Uganda (24MW), Zambia (105Mw) and Mozambique (250MW).

There are way too many black kenyans doing great stuff in the region. Unlike the lazy and indolent South Africans - or the criminal minded Nigerian - Kenyans are hardworking and resourcefull go-getters who do their things with minimal noise.

obaaderemi:
Name the biggest companies in Nigeria, none belongs to an Indian. Yet we have more Indians in Nigeria than Kenya. They dominate your manufacturing, retail, etc. They're even the richest people in Kenya.

The bulk of dangotes workers are Nigerians, not Indians. Indians do not only dominate your industries, you even tout them as your success story. You can't talk about Kenyan businesses outside Kenya without pointing at the Indians. They've colonized not only your land but your minds.

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rvp2018:
Africans team should really work on their mentality - otherwise all the talent continue going down the drain - and it just tears in Ghana now

so you think other Africans have your kind of mentality?
Don't push your inferiority complex on others..
If you were from another country I would listen not a Kenyan, no na.. Turkana still needs food, hope you know.

obaaderemi:
Yet we have more Indians in Nigeria than Kenya. .

Nope, you only have 35,000 indians. Kenya has 110,000.

Humprey Kariuki whom Ruto just appointed to Kenya Investment Forum own many things

He own Africa Spirits in Kenya, Ihub Karen, Mt kenya Safaris amongst many other things.

Through Great Lakes Africa Energy we are powering Africa by generating energy from locally available resources. We have key projects in Zambia, Kenya, Uganda, and Mozambique as well as dozens of others in incubation.

Dalbit Petroleum is fueling regional growth by servicing the aviation, mining, manufacturing, transport and humanitarian sectors in the region.

Belgravia Services Ltd specialises in the construction of oil terminals, power plants and related infrastructure. It has so far undertaken key projects in Zambia, DR Congo, Kenya and Tanzania.

There is no proper records of anyone in Nigeria because Indians just whittle through their airports and start working - Nigeira is a zoo without work permits.

35,000 is just the Indians working for Dangote alone.

Shma2022:
Nope, you only have 35,000 indians. Kenya has 110,000.

Kenyans are only African or black people to reliably win at highest level in sporting events. If you remove kenyans - then dark continent of Africa becomes very grim in sports. Ghana is number 61 in Fifa ranking and it showed. South Africa maybe would have done better...Ghana went there and leaked at least two goals every game . They were worse than even Qatar or Saudi Arabia.

IGpro1:
so you think other Africans have your kind of mentality?
Don't push your inferiority complex on others..
If you were from another country I would listen not a Kenyan, no na.. Turkana still needs food, hope you know.

I've been perusing through the internet and I realized that long distance race category is the most skills-requisite as compared to all other races. Winning a long distance race requires tactics, strategy, enduarance, mental stregth and good coodination of speed.

Sprints is more of speed and strength --- less skills.

Middle distance races --- 800m to 1500m is more skills indispensable than sprints: 100m to 400M.

Marathon is something else; superior than all other races. Completing 20miles--- 40+ km while maintaining same speed and focus is insane!

And yeah, Kenya dominates in both: short distance, middle distance, long distance, hurdles and marathon -- the most difficult race.

rvp2018:
There is no proper records of anyone in Nigeria because Indians just whittle through their airports and start working - Nigeira is a zoo without work permits.

35,000 is just the Indians working for Dangote alone.

A zoo indeed.

Shma2022:
Huh, we have legends in both 400m, 200m and of course 100m... Fastest man in Africa, currently.

No south African has ever hit the 9.77s record. NONE!

9.77 is new the previous were by south Africans

rvp2018:
Behind Dangote - is Indians; So all your biggest company Dangote cement, sugar, oil, fertilizers; are managed and run by Indians. Dangote daughters and sons just run the accounts and the foundations.

There many black kenya business men whose business have expanded -example no is Humphrey Kariuki - with many business in downstream oil (dalbit - run petrol operations in 10 countries), power stations in Uganda (24MW), Zambia (105Mw) and Mozambique (250MW).

There are way too many black kenyans doing great stuff in the region. Unlike the lazy and indolent South Africans - or the criminal minded Nigerian - Kenyans are hardworking and resourcefull go-getters who do their things with minimal noise.

Behind Dangote there is BUA, Glomobile and many more, not to talk of the banks which have bought a couple of your banks. Indians are not as important here as they are in little India. Remind me of the name of your richest businessman again.