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Remove gold - it's already un-economical - you're digging 10kms inside the earth crust; give up;
Coal - I dont see future for that - not with global warming - max 20yrs and coal will be banned.
The world is trying to sink carbondioxide - and you're going to earth carbondioxide reservior - and releasing them
It gotta to stop. The same with hydrocarbon. There is enough sun for everyone

That leaves plantinum

And minerals never really make countries great - because the prices will fluctuate - economy doesnt like that.

ANC remain your biggest albatross and if you can remove it; you'll be well on the way to making ammends.

For now kenya is gonna overtake you in a decade.

jl115:
We have 40 years of gold left, 173 years of coal, 200 years of platinum reserves.... Nickel isn't even on of our major minerals... So don't know why you brought it up.

Secondly you probably haven't seen SAs latest by election results and poll numbers.... The ANC isn't winning in 2024.....

jl115:
it's seems to pain you very much... Because all I ever hear is"you only better than Kenya because of whites"

Also don't you look down on Nigeria and Ghana ?? So what's with the hypocrisy?

Bozo, I'm not here to defend myself... Let's say I don' t give a sh*t about SA success interlinked to Boer. Yes.

And yes, for me Nigerians and Ghanians are way better than lazy Khoisans, and zulus.

jl115:
What's her ranking

Better than any female south African. Both boers and the rest.

rvp2018:
Remove gold - it's already un-economical - you're digging 10kms inside the earth crust; give up;
Coal - I dont see future for that - not with global warming - max 20yrs and coal will be banned.
The world is trying to sink carbondioxide - and you're going to earth carbondioxide reservior - and releasing them
It gotta to stop.

That leaves plantinum

And minerals never really make countries great - because the prices will fluctuate - economy doesnt like that.

ANC remain your biggest albatross and if you can remove it; you'll be well on the way to making ammends.

For now kenya is gonna overtake you in a decade.

You do know mining only makes up 8% of our Economy right?

Also Ruto is just another typically corrupt Kenyan politician.... The status quo will remain...and yes, Kenya will over take SA eventually, but that's simply down to population growth....and will only happen when you and I are long gone

Shma2022:
Better than any female south African. Both boers and the rest.

that's not what I asked... What's her ranking?....are you embarrassed to say it?

Shma2022:
Bozo, I'm not here to defend myself... Let's say I don' t give a sh*t about SA success interlinked to Boer. Yes.

And yes, for me Nigerians and Ghanians are way better than lazy Khoisans, and zulus.

OK so you admit you are a hypocrite and thus your entire argument about race is nonsensical..

jl115:
that's not what I asked... What's her ranking?....are you embarrassed to say it?

Better than any SAn. That is the bone of contention.

Shma2022:
Better than any SAn. That is the bone of contention.

OK... I'll take it you are just to embarrassed to say it

Let's do another ranking.... Where does Kenya rank in the Davis Cup?

jl115:
OK so you admit you are a hypocrite and thus your entire argument about race is nonsensical..

Refer to my previous reply.

jl115:
OK... I'll take it you are just to embarrassed to say it

Let's do another ranking.... Where does Kenya rank in the Davis Cup?

Why should I be embarrassed to announce it?

Well, 1145... In 2022. I don't think there is any Boer currently close to that.

In 2022, we have millions of tennis players. 30 20yrs ago, we had few players interested in sports, that's why securing a good position was easy.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Lol amateur sports is just high-school sports/college

Relax

I expected this, of course from you. A mor0n - who knows nothing outside heckling and chest-beating.
Why should you speak as if there is any female Boer in your country who can outshine her?

No! Winning a single grand slam opens is not a walk in the park, No black-skinned came close to quarters; not even Boer qualified for that. Winning the grand slam junior means you can play in any main tournament. That's why she is ranked 1145 in the world -- in the main league.

There is multiplier effect from minning - like your power sector depend on coal minning.
Ruto is corrupt but what distinguish kenya from south africa - is political will to institute reforms and structural changes.
It appears to me this ended in South Africa in 1990s.
Yet South Africa faces serious challenges - Land reforms, Immigration, Education, Eskom, Unions, etc.
Kenya is facing it's demon headon.

jl115:
You do know mining only makes up 8% of our Economy right?

Also Ruto is just another typically corrupt Kenyan politician.... The status quo will remain...and yes, Kenya will over take SA eventually, but that's simply down to population growth....and will only happen when you and I are long gone

Ruto hustler Fund driving savings and pensions up as side-effect of zero interest micro-loans for the informal sector. Kenya has 3 million formally employed (South Africa has 10 million) but bulk of Kenya's 30million adult over age of 15yrs are informally employed (8 million are small holder farmers, 4 million in schools/colleges, 15 million in non-farming informal trading/transports/name it. South Africa has close to 40m working age population...with only 10 million formally employed...and whooping 33 percent unemployed (majority blacks).

The story is the same for all Africa countries - tiny formal sector - gigantic informal sector plagued by zero savings/pensions/lack of affordable credit.

Kenya's Hustler Revolution gov has made that informal sector it's basis for it's economic revolution - otherwise also called Bottom Up Economic model - and it's getting started.

Improving the people at bottom fortunes even by a dollar every day - can scale up into massive economic push.

What Hustler Fund does is to allow them to borrow micro-loans almost every day perpetually - 5 dollars every day - repay- they are "forced" to save 5% - and gov matches that 2:1 - end of the year - everyone will have substantial savings - end of 5yrs - everyone will have substantial pension scheme.

Savings are what will drive the economy forward....as debt is using someone borrowing which you pay interest. With their pension scheme - they can afford to put down payment for a house or start big business - graduate from informal sector to formal MSME.

Kenyans who have taken out loans since the Hustler Fund scheme's inception had saved Ksh.147.21 million as of Sunday noon.
This is according to figures provided by Co-operative and Micro, Small, and Medium Enterprises Cabinet Secretary Simon Chelugui on Sunday, who also stated that the savings were obtained through a Ksh.2.9 billion in loans

Kenyans have so far repaid a total of Ksh.129.1 million, according to CS Chelugui.

He said that a total of 8.4 million Kenyans have registered, with a total of 5 million transactions already made.

Savings from the Hustler Fund scheme are deposited into a savings account after 5% of the borrowed money is deducted.

rvp2018:
Ruto hustler Fund driving savings and pensions up as side-effect of zero interest micro-loans for the informal sector. Kenya has 3 million formally employed (South Africa has 10 million) but bulk of Kenya's 30million adult over age of 15yrs are informally employed (8 million are small holder farmers, 4 million in schools/colleges, 15 million in non-farming informal trading/transports/name it. South Africa has close to 40m working age population...with only 10 million formally employed...and whooping 33 percent unemployed (majority blacks).

The story is the same for all Africa countries - tiny formal sector - gigantic informal sector plagued by zero savings/pensions/lack of affordable credit.

Kenya's Hustler Revolution gov has made that informal sector it's basis for it's economic revolution - otherwise also called Bottom Up Economic model - and it's getting started.

Improving the people at bottom fortunes even by a dollar every day - can scale up into massive economic push.

What Hustler Fund does is to allow them to borrow micro-loans almost every day perpetually - 5 dollars every day - repay- they are "forced" to save 5% - and gov matches that 2:1 - end of the year - everyone will have substantial savings - end of 5yrs - everyone will have substantial pension scheme.

Savings are what will drive the economy forward....as debt is using someone borrowing which you pay interest. With their pension scheme - they can afford to put down payment for a house or start big business - graduate from informal sector to formal MSME.

Kenyans who have taken out loans since the Hustler Fund scheme's inception had saved Ksh.147.21 million as of Sunday noon.
This is according to figures provided by Co-operative and Micro, Small, and Medium Enterprises Cabinet Secretary Simon Chelugui on Sunday, who also stated that the savings were obtained through a Ksh.2.9 billion in loans

Kenyans have so far repaid a total of Ksh.129.1 million, according to CS Chelugui.

He said that a total of 8.4 million Kenyans have registered, with a total of 5 million transactions already made.

Savings from the Hustler Fund scheme are deposited into a savings account after 5% of the borrowed money is deducted.

so you mean the informal economy you were against is same one you now rejoice over. You need help sire

Africa industrialisation 2011-2021

According to some SA is dead , yes it leads in industrialization in Africa than any other African country

IGpro1:
so you mean the informal economy you were against is same one you now rejoice over. You need help sire

rvp2018:
Ruto hustler Fund driving savings and pensions up as side-effect of zero interest micro-loans for the informal sector. Kenya has 3 million formally employed (South Africa has 10 million) but bulk of Kenya's 30million adult over age of 15yrs are informally employed (8 million are small holder farmers, 4 million in schools/colleges, 15 million in non-farming informal trading/transports/name it. South Africa has close to 40m working age population...with only 10 million formally employed...and whooping 33 percent unemployed (majority blacks).

The story is the same for all Africa countries - tiny formal sector - gigantic informal sector plagued by zero savings/pensions/lack of affordable credit.

Kenya's Hustler Revolution gov has made that informal sector it's basis for it's economic revolution - otherwise also called Bottom Up Economic model - and it's getting started.

Improving the people at bottom fortunes even by a dollar every day - can scale up into massive economic push.

What Hustler Fund does is to allow them to borrow micro-loans almost every day perpetually - 5 dollars every day - repay- they are "forced" to save 5% - and gov matches that 2:1 - end of the year - everyone will have substantial savings - end of 5yrs - everyone will have substantial pension scheme.

Savings are what will drive the economy forward....as debt is using someone borrowing which you pay interest. With their pension scheme - they can afford to put down payment for a house or start big business - graduate from informal sector to formal MSME.

Kenyans who have taken out loans since the Hustler Fund scheme's inception had saved Ksh.147.21 million as of Sunday noon.
This is according to figures provided by Co-operative and Micro, Small, and Medium Enterprises Cabinet Secretary Simon Chelugui on Sunday, who also stated that the savings were obtained through a Ksh.2.9 billion in loans

Kenyans have so far repaid a total of Ksh.129.1 million, according to CS Chelugui.

He said that a total of 8.4 million Kenyans have registered, with a total of 5 million transactions already made.

Savings from the Hustler Fund scheme are deposited into a savings account after 5% of the borrowed money is deducted.

no sane country throw money to the poor , you don't build a wealthy nation that way . You will only create a poor society. .


You people need to come understudy west africa model .... We have lots of financial intermediaries here.


Susu in Ghana , Ajo in Nigeria etc. ( informal loan club)

I am against the delusion/illusion that informal economy is so big and so fine; no it's not fine; it's not good; certainly not big; it need to be formalized, improved, fixed.

Informal economy is a must when economy doesnt grow. People have to survive. They have to EKE a living. They do this through informal sector. They hawk, they hustle, they farm, they engage in anything that can put food on their table.

It's not a sign of progress - it's a sign of regression. This default economy in Africa - the informal hustling eking a living economy - it perhaps 80-90% in most countries.

IGpro1:
so you mean the informal economy you were against is same one you now rejoice over. You need help sire

You got jokes.
Financial intermediaries
Your west Africa is completely sick ZOO!
The formal sector alone - you guys are getting loans at 25-30%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You banks dont even quote annual interest - they quote monthly interest of 3% - which is 36% per annum. CRAZY

Now before we proceed what do you know by financial intermediaries?
Quick check on Susu - and it appears very tiny - 850 such in Ghana - this appears to be merry-go rounder - very tiny

Let not even compare to kenya.
Kenya has 7th world largest cooperatives movement...Africa largest...south africa is 2nd....15 million kenyans belong to a cooperative.
Almost every kenyan in informal sector belong to some merry-go-round or table banking.

Our mobile money is of course a global trail blazer - with I think 400 mobile money credit facilities.

This hustler fund is innovative because one biggest problem facing developing countries is how to grow savings and pensions when most people are living hand to mouth- and it solving it while dishing out very low almost zero interest loans and forcing them to save .

Dont wonder why Nigeria and Ghana despite all the minerals and arable land look shietty compared to baren kenya.

These small things like having 7th largest cooperative movement in the world has made huge difference in kenya - which would be one Africa poorest - because it has no major minerals or arable land or natural resources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQezoDoYcPA&t=5s

But instead it largest non-mineral economy in Africa.

vaxx:
no sane country throw money to the poor , you don't build a wealthy nation that way . You will only create a poor society. .


You people need to come understudy west africa model .... We have lots of financial intermediaries here.


Susu in Ghana , Ajo in Nigeria etc. ( informal loan club)

Here we go with Ghana the slumpolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTio_0rwR1s

rvp2018:
Only those two - and they appear like newbies?

Shoes, slippers, bag making etc is a big industry in Ghana. Aside Shoe factories you will get thousands of shoes and slippers making shops in Ashanti Region alone.
The locals are cashing in big time

gallivant:
How did you end up getting obsessed with Kenya? The Ghanaians and Nigerians I understand but why you? It's baffling to say the least.

No one is obsessed with Kenyans (God forbid)
it's the other way round.

You and your fellow primitive Kenyans keep ranting and tagging us unnecessarily. Sometimes the things you discuss are so flimsy and baseless and that makes me wonder the caliber of people you guys are. You guys are arrant crass

I think first you need to stop eating animal hides and skin before you can talk footwear.
You have to build the value chain.
Kenya itself is a mess - the potential is huge - but we are still importing millions of used and new shoes.

Ghana I know banned import of second hand shoes - but I dont think there is leather industry - you still import leather then make the shoes - mostly as cottage or informal shoe making.

In 2020 the 3 largest SSA footwear exporters were South Africa, Cote d’Ivoire, and Kenya, exporting
$124.9 million, $51.7 million, and $39.4 million of footwear, respectively.21 These countries have
different destination markets for their footwear than Ethiopia. For example, while the United States was
the largest destination for Ethiopian footwear exports in 2020, the largest destination markets for South
Africa, Cote d’Ivoire, and Kenya were Namibia, Uganda, and Nigeria, respectively.22 Total exports from
these SSA exporters did decline in 2019 and 2020 due to unfavorable macroeconomic conditions,
including those caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, similar to Ethiopia and many large global footwear
exporters, but not at as great a rate.

vankelvin:
Shoes, slippers, bag making etc is a big industry in Ghana. Aside Shoe factories you will get thousands of shoes and slippers making shops in Ashanti Region alone.
The locals are cashing in big time

vaxx:
Surely the free education is working in Ghana

A worthy investment. At least they had the sense to invest in their youth, unlike that old hag sitting in Abuja. With the kind of structures some of those schools have ehn, i sometimes pass by and wonder "how the hell is government keeping up with these expenses" Mfantseman girls school along cape-accra road always blows my mind. Moving here was came with great risk, but hell, one of the best decisions man has ever made.

rvp2018:
Here we go with Ghana the slumpolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTio_0rwR1s

Why are waffas thriving in destroying Nature? It baffles me!
Only zoos are the embodiment of such nonsense.
The beautiful sandy beach was just chilling --- then BooM! , Hobbits with their usual dystopia mindset show up to ruin it, SMH.

rvp20182:
I think first you need to stop eating animal hides and skin before you can talk footwear.
You have to build the value chain.
Kenya itself is a mess - the potential is huge - but we are still importing millions of used and new shoes.

Ghana I know banned import of second hand shoes - but I dont think there is leather industry - you still import leather then make the shoes - mostly as cottage or informal shoe making.

In 2020 the 3 largest SSA footwear exporters were South Africa, Cote d’Ivoire, and Kenya, exporting
$124.9 million, $51.7 million, and $39.4 million of footwear, respectively.21 These countries have
different destination markets for their footwear than Ethiopia. For example, while the United States was
the largest destination for Ethiopian footwear exports in 2020, the largest destination markets for South
Africa, Cote d’Ivoire, and Kenya were Namibia, Uganda, and Nigeria, respectively.22 Total exports from
these SSA exporters did decline in 2019 and 2020 due to unfavorable macroeconomic conditions,
including those caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, similar to Ethiopia and many large global footwear
exporters, but not at as great a rate.

But why are they eating animal skin? ... These people are just weird.

rvp2018:
Here we go with Ghana the slumpolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTio_0rwR1s

what you do get is ... No one live there

There people you'll find here either lives at James Town or Chorkor....

In the morning they get their waste electronics and churn it out for metals

rvp20182:
I think first you need to stop eating animal hides and skin before you can talk footwear.
You have to build the value chain.
Kenya itself is a mess - the potential is huge - but we are still importing millions of used and new shoes.

Ghana I know banned import of second hand shoes - but I dont think there is leather industry - you still import leather then make the shoes - mostly as cottage or informal shoe making.

In 2020 the 3 largest SSA footwear exporters were South Africa, Cote d’Ivoire, and Kenya, exporting
$124.9 million, $51.7 million, and $39.4 million of footwear, respectively.21 These countries have
different destination markets for their footwear than Ethiopia. For example, while the United States was
the largest destination for Ethiopian footwear exports in 2020, the largest destination markets for South
Africa, Cote d’Ivoire, and Kenya were Namibia, Uganda, and Nigeria, respectively.22 Total exports from
these SSA exporters did decline in 2019 and 2020 due to unfavorable macroeconomic conditions,
including those caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, similar to Ethiopia and many large global footwear
exporters, but not at as great a rate.

yet the Shoe industry is bigger than Kenya..

Producing more than 2 million pairs of shoes.

Kenya produce absolutely none hence your 6 million pairs import

vankelvin:
No one is obsessed with Kenyans (God forbid)
it's the other way round.

You and your fellow primitive Kenyans keep ranting and tagging us unnecessarily. Sometimes the things you discuss are so flimsy and baseless and that makes me wonder the caliber of people you guys are. You guys are arrant crass

This thread was not created by a Kenya... It was created by a Nigerian-- Tonny something. It's clear he had a thing with Kenya -- Kenyans came and defended. We finished the game on the previous forum, obaboon created this one and extended the topic. We came to defend our nation. Out of nowhere --- Hobbits!! Oooh Ghana this, ghana that... I believe they are the weeny sibling of Nigeria, so they have to tread on their heels... Perhaps that's why they are here. Topic of the thread reads: Kenya is far ............. Nigeria! So it's upon Kenyans and Nigerians to square it out, by themselves. Ghana is nowhere because such a thread will be a disgrace to any nationality here: kenya, Nigeria, and South Africa. In fact, such a thread will not go past a page because Ghana has literally nothing to show.

Just40:
what you do get is ... No one live there

There people you'll find here either lives at James Town or Chorkor....

In the morning they get their waste electronics and churn it out for metals

Do you have any environmental policies?

Shma2022:
Do you have any environmental policies?

Does Kenya have any?

Ghana's environmental policy has led to huge recycling facilities for all kinds of waste nation wide and the closing of all landfill site.

Why are there still landfill sites in every part of Kenya?