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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:02pm On Dec 04, 2022
Shma2022:
This thread was not created by a Kenya... It was created by a Nigerian-- Tonny something. It's clear he had a thing with Kenya -- Kenyans came and defended. We finished the game on the previous forum, obaboon created this one and extended the topic. We came to defend our nation. Out of nowhere --- Hobbits!! Oooh Ghana this, ghana that... I believe they are the weeny sibling of Nigeria, so they have to tread on their heels... Perhaps that's why they are here. Topic of the thread reads: Kenya is far ............. Nigeria! So it's upon Kenyans and Nigerians to square it out, by themselves. Ghana is nowhere because such a thread will be a disgrace to any nationality here: kenya, Nigeria, and South Africa. In fact, such a thread will not go past a page because Ghana has literally nothing to show.
in the first place, Ghana will not stoop so low to compare itself to a country far below it that only has a 2km apart area to show and has done so for 7 years.

Show that site be created, it will be short lived because as we've seen on this page, Kenya fall short in all developmental areas.

Skeletal people better be looking for Uganda to compare with
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:02pm On Dec 04, 2022
Sometimes understand the subject matter before embarrassing yourself.
You're moving from 700M shoes import to 2 million pair shoes.

Ghana has 30million people. If they were to buy one shoe per year - you'll need 30 million pair of shoes.
What is two million shoes?

Kenya would need 50 million shoes per annum.

We import more than 6 million shoes a single quarter...those are new shoes...yearly its more than 40 million...and we havent counted gazillion of shoes that come in from US as second hand shoes.

Kenya if it was to supply each kid with 3 shoes every term - you're talking 40 million school shoes alone.

Understand these things.

In kenya there many formal shoes makers - that export to US - and the rest.
BATA - global shoes company - has factory in kenya - and produces mostly hardy shoes for school kids.

I think biggest informal shoe market is Nairobi's Kariokor - they produce two million shoes - informally.
Just40:
yet the Shoe industry is bigger than Kenya..

Producing more than 2 million pairs of shoes.

Kenya produce absolutely none hence your 6 million pairs import
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:04pm On Dec 04, 2022
Kariokor in Nairobi downtown is East Africa largest informal shoe making places. They produce two million shoes per annum - gov has tried to build them new places - and they potential to produce 10 million shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4RjRL0gg08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGAvBV8BDIU
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:07pm On Dec 04, 2022
kkins25:
A worthy investment. At least they had the sense to invest in their youth, unlike that old hag sitting in Abuja. With the kind of structures some of those schools have ehn, i sometimes pass by and wonder "how the hell is government keeping up with these expenses" Mfantseman girls school along cape-accra road always blows my mind. Moving here was came with great risk, but hell, one of the best decisions man has ever made.
How many schools have you visited in Nigeria? Also, primary and secondary schools are not the major responsibilities of the man in Abuja but your state and local Governments. Hold them responsible too.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:11pm On Dec 04, 2022
Just40:
Does Kenya have any?

Ghana's environmental policy has led to huge recycling facilities for all kinds of waste nation wide and the closing of all landfill site.

Why are there still landfill sites in every part of Kenya?
HOT AIR.

Why do you defecate on your beaches?
Why are your beaches embodying a lack of environmental policy?

Kenyan beaches are by far the cleanest and most beautiful in Africa... We care about nature. We have more wild animals than any zoo in WA --- because we have policies to protect them.

How many animals do you have, or you ate all of them?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:11pm On Dec 04, 2022
Just40:
in the first place, Ghana will not stoop so low to compare itself to a country far below it that only has a 2km apart area to show and has done so for 7 years.

Show that site be created, it will be short lived because as we've seen on this page, Kenya fall short in all developmental areas.

Skeletal people better be looking for Uganda to compare with
Nonsense.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 8:12pm On Dec 04, 2022
Kenya public education failed you .
rvp2018:
You got jokes.
Financial intermediaries
Your west Africa is completely sick ZOO!
The formal sector alone - you guys are getting loans at 25-30%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You banks dont even quote annual interest - they quote monthly interest of 3% - which is 36% per annum. CRAZY

Now before we proceed what do you know by financial intermediaries?
Quick check on Susu - and it appears very tiny - 850 such in Ghana - this appears to be merry-go rounder - very tiny

Let not even compare to kenya.
Kenya has 7th world largest cooperatives movement...Africa largest...south africa is 2nd....15 million kenyans belong to a cooperative.
Almost every kenyan in informal sector belong to some merry-go-round or table banking.

Our mobile money is of course a global trail blazer - with I think 400 mobile money credit facilities.

This hustler fund is innovative because one biggest problem facing developing countries is how to grow savings and pensions when most people are living hand to mouth- and it solving it while dishing out very low almost zero interest loans and forcing them to save .

Dont wonder why Nigeria and Ghana despite all the minerals and arable land look shietty compared to baren kenya.

These small things like having 7th largest cooperative movement in the world has made huge difference in kenya - which would be one Africa poorest - because it has no major minerals or arable land or natural resources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQezoDoYcPA&t=5s

But instead it largest non-mineral economy in Africa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:13pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
Sometimes understand the subject matter before embarrassing yourself.
You're moving from 700M shoes import to 2 million pair shoes.

Ghana has 30million people. If they were to buy one shoe per year - you'll need 30 million pair of shoes.
What is two million shoes?

Kenya would need 50 million shoes per annum.

We import more than 6 million shoes a single quarter...those are new shoes...yearly its more than 40 million...and we havent counted gazillion of shoes that come in from US as second hand shoes.

Kenya if it was to supply each kid with 3 shoes every term - you're talking 40 million school shoes alone.

Understand these things.

In kenya there many formal shoes makers - that export to US - and the rest.
BATA - global shoes company - has factory in kenya - and produces mostly hardy shoes for school kids.

I think biggest informal shoe market is Nairobi's Kariokor - they produce two million shoes - informally.
Who is moving from what to what.... Did you even read what I wrote?

Except no one buys one shoe per year.... Most people buy 2 quality shoes and use it for 5 to 7 years.

The world has 8 billion people with 14 billion shoes.. that's 2 pairs per person..

Sorry kiddo, your country has almost no shoe production.. all you do is import those plastic Chinese stuff you call shoes and those synthetic nonsense...
Your country shoe import is also just 6 million pairs and your central bank give importers 770 million for that and as smart as they are, they smuggle the rest.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:14pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
Kariokor in Nairobi downtown is East Africa largest informal shoe making places. They produce two million shoes per annum - gov has tried to build them new places - and they potential to produce 10 million shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4RjRL0gg08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGAvBV8BDIU
keep guessing...

You don't even produce 20,000 pairs per annum
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:14pm On Dec 04, 2022
England 2 Senegal 0 or 1.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:16pm On Dec 04, 2022
Kariokor Leather cluster - informal shoes makers - 1.7M pairs of shoes, 2.2M sandals, 4.8M belts & 3M wallets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHLvRjsB4Ho
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 8:17pm On Dec 04, 2022
kkins25:
A worthy investment. At least they had the sense to invest in their youth, unlike that old hag sitting in Abuja. With the kind of structures some of those schools have ehn, i sometimes pass by and wonder "how the hell is government keeping up with these expenses" Mfantseman girls school along cape-accra road always blows my mind. Moving here was came with great risk, but hell, one of the best decisions man has ever made.
Either you like it or not we must jam in Ghana soon.


Ghana people like church ooo, make your religion affiliation a secret for now until you don make am.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:17pm On Dec 04, 2022
Shma2022:
HOT AIR.

Why do you defecate on your beaches?
Why are your beaches embodying a lack of environmental policy?

Kenyan beaches are by far the cleanest and most beautiful in Africa... We care about nature. We have more wild animals than any zoo in WA --- because we have policies to protect them.

How many animals do you have, or you ate all of them?
no one does that here ..... Anyway why do Kenyans keep defecating on beaches and on open fields?

Why are Kenyan beaches embodying lack of environmental policy and why is Kenya still operating huge landfill sites in this modern age?


Ghanaian beaches receives more tourist and earn more money that those in Kenya.


Kenya is a huge zoo that should be comparing itself with Uganda.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:17pm On Dec 04, 2022
Kenya is not backwater Ghana.

Bata producers 30 million shoes a year - mostly for school kids. These are genuine leather that parents love. That kenyan woman tried to introduce to your poor country but she gave up.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKMYuP2jN7E

There is a Bata shop/store in almost every market in kenya. In fact it would be really surprising if a kenyan went and didnt find a Bata store anywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPVdh1c2wp0

Just40:
keep guessing...

You don't even produce 20,000 pairs per annum
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:18pm On Dec 04, 2022
Shma2022:
Nonsense.
same reply youve had for 7 years when faced with the hard facts grin

Frustrated kenyan
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182:
Look like Bata is well established only in kenya, Zimbwabwe and South Africa - with Kenya the biggest . They tried Nigeria - I dont know how that went

It may be Africa's most populous country, and home to its one of its largest economies, but the global shoemaker Bata is not keen on investing in local manufacturing plant in Nigeria. That's according to the company's Chief Marketing Officer, Thomas Bata. The company had production hubs in Kenya and South Africa, which can produce at least 30 million pairs of shoes, each year. Here he is explaining the firm's approach to the West African economy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNnT2PQ3IHo


Bata is the largest shoe maker in the Czech Republic and has been identified as the largest manufacturer and seller of shoes of all time in the Guinness Book. It was founded by siblings Anna, Antonin and Tomas Bata in 1894 in Zlín. We can find their stores all over the world. Today, they also focus on lifestyle sneakers that you can find on our e-shop!

In 1932, the first Bata stores– Nairobi, Mombasa were opened in Kenya.
In 1939, Bata retail network expanded and consisted of sixteen stores.
In 1939, the sister company Bata Shoe Comp.


Bata in Kenya is one well regarded brand known for its high quality shoes. The only competition really is high class second hand shoes from US. People in kenya generally think shoes are Bata and Bata is shoes...there is a franchise in every little places.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:51pm On Dec 04, 2022
Look like only African team we will have is France as usual. Poor senegal. The English counter attacks & finishing just too clinical.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by IGpro1(m): 8:55pm On Dec 04, 2022
Guys this thread needs to rest already,
Ain't you Kenyans tired of comparing youe country to others?
Gush!!! Just post your photos and rest.
You channel all your energy digging up bad reports about other countries daily.


All African countries are developing..

We need to lock this thread too.. it's disgusting, what goes on here
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by IGpro1(m): 8:59pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
Look like only African team we will have is France as usual. Poor senegal. The English counter attacks & finishing just too clinical.
I know you are happy that African countries are crashing out of world cup,because Kenya isn't involved.
Kenyans are terrible people really.
If others make progress, it pains them.
Wicked souls.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:01pm On Dec 04, 2022
You cant hate the mirror. We are the mirror. You have got here because of electing Buharis and other military dictator. This thread is the MIRROR in your bathroom.
IGpro1:
Guys this thread needs to rest already,
Ain't you Kenyans tired of comparing youe country to others?
Gush!!! Just post your photos and rest.
You channel all your energy digging up bad reports about other countries daily.


All African countries are developing..

We need to lock this thread too.. it's disgusting, what goes on here
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:05pm On Dec 04, 2022
Nope, we love progress. I love progress.
We praise progressive countries like Rwanda, Mauritus, even South Africa and we try to ape them.
There are things I like about Nigeria - I love chimamanda ngozi adichie.,
I love ngozi okonjo-iweala
I like Peter Obi.
I like people like Meles Zenawi, Paul Kagame, Zambia Hakainde Hichilema.

What I hate is retrogressions, laziness, stupidity and lack of ambition.

Africa football is good example of our stupidity in something we should be dominating.

You need tough love. Anyone who hates the truth; hate the mirror reflecting back; hate himself;

Love yourself. You deserve more. You can be better. You can achieve greatness.

It takes hardwork. It takes discipline. It takes commitment to continuous improvement.

By time you accept darkness and generator - then you're gone. Nigeria should have revolted. Go to streets for months until Abuja bring lights.

In kenya we are just celebrating a hustler revolution - and we had just few hiccups.

IGpro1:
I know you are happy that African countries are crashing out of world cup,because Kenya isn't involved.
Kenyans are terrible people really.
If others make progress, it pains them.
Wicked souls.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by IGpro1(m): 9:08pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
You cant hate the mirror. We are the mirror. You have got here because of electing Buharis and other military dictator. This thread is the MIRROR in your bathroom.
oh shut up and logout.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:09pm On Dec 04, 2022
I wont. I am having fun while teaching you. This is my duty to Africa. I love Africa to lie to Africa. If someone like Paul kagame tell me to shut up - I will smiley
IGpro1:
oh shut up and logout.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:11pm On Dec 04, 2022
Your Hustler fund idea is as dead as dodo. No sensible economy uplift poor masses by throwing money at them.
rvp20182:
Nope, we love progress. I love progress.
We praise progressive countries like Rwanda, Mauritus, even South Africa and we try to ape them.
There are things I like about Nigeria - I love chimamanda ngozi adichie.,
I love ngozi okonjo-iweala
I like Peter Obi.
I like people like Meles Zenawi, Paul Kagame, Zambia Hakainde Hichilema.

What I hate is retrogressions, laziness, stupidity and lack of ambition.

Africa football is good example of our stupidity in something we should be dominating.

You need tough love. Anyone who hates the truth; hate the mirror reflecting back; hate himself;

Love yourself. You deserve more. You can be better. You can achieve greatness.

It takes hardwork. It takes discipline. It takes commitment to continuous improvement.

By time you accept darkness and generator - then you're gone. Nigeria should have revolted. Go to streets for months until Abuja bring lights.

In kenya we are just celebrating a hustler revolution - and we had just few hiccups.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:16pm On Dec 04, 2022
Poor people need money more than anything else.
They have great ideas.
They are frugal and responsible.
Give a poor man a dollar - he will feed his family and have something for tomorrow.
He will not do fancy stocks or crypto - he will buy fish - fry it on the street - sell it - and make a little profit.

We have studied our poor people.
1) Biggest problem of course they have no money - solution lend them money (dont give them free - there is no free money)
2) Dont lend them at usurious interest rates - you're digging their hole further - give them zero interest loan - IMF/WB give poor gov such loans.
3) Encourage them to save for the rainy day so eventually they get out of the vicious poverty trap.

You have to admit that Ruto's administration is possibly the first time Africa gov has seriously thought and invested in poor people - there were at least 250 top policy makers involved.

vaxx:
Your Hustler fund idea is as dead as dodo. No sensible economy uplift poor masses by throwing money at them.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:17pm On Dec 04, 2022
vankelvin:
No one is obsessed with Kenyans (God forbid)
it's the other way round.

You and your fellow primitive Kenyans keep ranting and tagging us unnecessarily. Sometimes the things you discuss are so flimsy and baseless and that makes me wonder the caliber of people you guys are. You guys are arrant crass
What are you dwarfs doing in a Kenya Nigeria thread? Go open a new thread and see if anyone will visit.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:18pm On Dec 04, 2022
IGpro1:
I know you are happy that African countries are crashing out of world cup,because Kenya isn't involved.
Kenyans are terrible people really.
If others make progress, it pains them.
Wicked souls.
You don't see bonobos talking $hit about Kenya? grin tongue
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:22pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
Poor people need money more than anything else.
They have great ideas.
They are frugal and responsible.
Give a poor man a dollar - he will feed his family and have something for tomorrow.

We have studied our poor business men.
1) Biggest problem of course they have no money - solution lend them money (dont give them free - there is no free money)
2) Dont lend them at usurious interest rates - you're digging their hole further - give them zero interest loan - IMF/WB give poor gov such loans.
3) Encourage them to save for the rainy day so eventually they get out of the vicious poverty trap.
Your idea of giving money is as big as the poverty in your land .

Once you give poor people money , you just reward them for being poor and how can a sensible economy reward citizens for being poor? , why don't you correct their behavior pattern , what leads to that poverty. using other people productivity to compensate poor people should never be an available career choice . It is unproductive. Every dollar or shilling the government has comes from the tax payer .your government is just as foolish as you . It doesn't know what next . Your country is about creating a large number of lazy men and more poor individual .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:22pm On Dec 04, 2022
Kenya Airways has confirmed Qatar to Ghana to Dakar flight is ready.
Yoruba Nigeria Saka just send last Sub Saharan Africa team home
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:26pm On Dec 04, 2022
I do hope you write German better than you do English.
From what I gather you think this is welfare program.
No this is A LOAN with SAVING and PENSION rolled into one.
There is NO MONEY we are giving them. We lending money. Very small amount. They repay in 14 days. Ideally they should repay daily and borrow the following morning.
You wake up with nothing - because you're poor - borrow 5 dollars - make 1 dollar profit - return the money.
They borrow and pay back - and instead of interest - we keep that as their savings and pension.
Gov using taxes from middle class to give them 2:1 matching...they save 5% - gov rewards them with 2.5% for saving.
Middle class get 1:1 matching from their employer; so they should not complain.

The more we talk the more I hope you didnt go to any school - least of all Ghana.

Otherwise why are you Ghanians so OBTUSE.

Honestly all my life - this forum is the most stupid -

I love this Ghanian Poppa dude in Skyscrapper City but seems he was born in Scotland and lived there?

How can education systems produce so many morons? How can Kofi Annan or chimamanda ngozi adichie or Chinua Achebe or Wole Soyinka be a product of the same system?

I guess they are outliers - the west african education - and I have seen the exams - need SERIOUS REFORMS.

vaxx:
Your idea of giving money is as big as the poverty in your land .

Once you give poor people money , you just reward them for being poor and how can a sensible economy reward citizens for being poor , why don't correct their behavior pattern , what leads to that poverty.using other people productivity to compensate poor people should never be an available career choice . It is unproductive. Every dollar or shilling the government has comes from the tax payer .your government is just as foolish as you . It doesn't know what next . Your country is about creating a large number of lazy men.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:34pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
Kenya is not backwater Ghana.

Bata producers 30 million shoes a year - mostly for school kids. These are genuine leather that parents love. That kenyan woman tried to introduce to your poor country but she gave up.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKMYuP2jN7E

There is a Bata shop/store in almost every market in kenya. In fact it would be really surprising if a kenyan went and didnt find a Bata store anywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPVdh1c2wp0
Bata Kenya sales is only 10 million dollars with a production of 50,000 pairs and creating employment for 46
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:36pm On Dec 04, 2022
rvp20182:
Kenya Airways has confirmed Qatar to Ghana to Dakar flight is ready.
Yoruba Nigeria Saka just send last Sub Saharan Africa team home
Sorry, we only trust Qatar airways for that service.... grin grin

You can pack your rickety planes home... No wonder they most fly empty planes around
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