₦airaland Forum

rvp2018:
Bla de bla of a goat.
Your own gov are looking at 2037 earliest. 15yrs - a whole generation is lost.
Youre proposing to start paying debt in 2027 -
And you're talking two years

Kenya smartly foresaw the dangers and has had a "luckly" escape.

My entire govt and CSO is looking at 2 years to be back on the market especially when it's been shown that we are liquid and is highly solvent..

Kenya has no hope of freeing up liquidity when you guys are at 140% and being strangled.. that is what you should be thinking about daily
Where will the Kenya govt be getting money from to pay wages

jl115:
screenshotting Wikipedia? Be better

You're clutching at straws. Don't blame wiki.

Common sense! you can't be a Kenyan citizen playing for Kenya and your scores go to USA.. It's illogical.

You don't need world bank, IMF, ITF, or world Tennis federation to inflict such a basic sense.

rvp2018:
South Africa, Kenya, Tanzania can speak about Tourism in SSA - Botswana, Namibia - apart from seychelles, mauritus - the rest really should shut up.

The outcomes look like this

These are the countries that speak about tourism

Egypt
SA
Morocco
Nigeria
Ghana

And the rest follows

The funny thing is none of the countries above make noise about tourism because we look at important aspect like manufacturing and concentrate on driving our economies on that.

Talk to me latter... Go have real human engagement than sleeping on here

jl115:
talking kak my bru go watch the final coverage.... It clearly shows SA

Drop the link.
No such video on youtube.

rvp2018:
We are not bankrupt, we are growing rapidly, and we are overtaking south africa in a decade to become SSA biggest economy. What exactly is our problem?

Most analysts predict kenya will enter leapfrog phase in about 5-10yrs because we have nailed demographics (we stopped breeding & are 5yrs from having more adults than kids) - macro economics are solid - and have nailed basic infrastructure.

every time you spew this tripe you just get dumber in my book..... There is 0 evidence that even remotely suggests this.... In fact the GDP gap between SA and Kenya has widened considerably since 2020.

Yes eventually Kenya will overtake SA however that will solely be down to population growth and will only happen near the end of this century

Just40:
The outcomes look like this

These are the countries that speak about tourism

Egypt
SA
Morocco
Nigeria
Ghana

And the rest follows

The funny thing is none of the countries above make noise about tourism because we look at important aspect like manufacturing and concentrate on driving our economies on that.

Talk to me latter... Go have real human engagement than sleeping on here

Remove Ghana and Nigeria. Natives should not count as visitors. We know how backward your nations are, so every individual is escaping to Europe, Kenya, south Africa, and America to find a better living. So going back to visit your Mother should not count.

Visitors flood in Kenya to enjoy beautiful sceneries: beautiful Sand dunes, wildlife, beautiful beaches, snow caped mountain, etc... I don't think Ghana has any. Your seashore is home to the homeless and thugs, Who will wish to visit there?

This is it.
South Africa
Kenya
Egypt
Tanzania
Nigeria
Rwanda
Namibia

Shma2022:
You're clutching at straws. Don't blame wiki.

Common sense! you can't be a Kenyan citizen playing for Kenya and your scores go to USA.. It's illogical.

You don't need world bank, IMF, ITF, or world Tennis federation to inflict such a basic sense.

he only became a US citizen after 82....however even if we play your game and say Kriek is somehow American and all his majors must go to America that still means we have 17 major wins vs your 0.......

jl115:
he only became a US citizen after 82....however even if we play your game and say Kriek is somehow American and all his majors must go to America that still means we have 17 major wins vs your 0.......

He played for America in both years. He is american --- he is not south african.

Where do you get 17 from? & who told you we have no major wins?

Ignorance!!

vankelvin:
Including Nigeria and Kenya , we are all bleeped up

Misery love company but Ghana has no reason to be this fuc*ked up

Shma2022:
He played for America in both years. He is american --- he is not south african.

Where do you get 17 from? & who told you we have no major wins?

Ignorance!!

have you forgotten my previous post? Yes we have 17 majors

Also this is 81....since we screenshotting Wiki now

popizaino:
Misery love company but Ghana has no reason to be this fuc*ked up

But other countries have reasons to be fuc*ked up, clap for yourself. You are a genius

jl115:
have you forgotten my previous post? Yes we have 17 majors

Also this is 81....since we screenshotting Wiki now

You better ignore her. She is completely flustered by the facts. You are wasting your time arguing with a girl who thinks a ranking of 100 is greater than a ranking of 5.

vankelvin:
But other countries have reasons to be fuc*ked up, clap for yourself. You are a genius

Leave my brother alone.

Shma2022:
Remove Ghana and Nigeria. Natives should not count as visitors. We know how backward your nations are, so every individual is escaping to Europe, Kenya, south Africa, and America to find a better living. So going back to visit your Mother should not count.

Visitors flood in Kenya to enjoy beautiful sceneries: beautiful Sand dunes, wildlife, beautiful beaches, snow caped mountain, etc... I don't think Ghana has any. Your seashore is home to the homeless and thugs, Who will wish to visit there?

This is it.
South Africa
Kenya
Egypt
Tanzania
Nigeria
Rwanda
Namibia

cry more..

All the countries I mentioned earn more from tourism than Kenya

vankelvin:
But other countries have reasons to be fuc*ked up, clap for yourself. You are a genius

Emphasis on this.

Why dont you ask for evidence instead of becoming combative?

The facts are overwhelming - you're just blinded folded by dogma.

1) Let starts with population - South Africa still 10 million ahead - and kenya might actually not overtake it. Kenya demographic had an inflection point somewhere in 2016. This we noted first in National Household Survey which was confirmed by census in 2019.

The largest population was 10-15 - now they should be the 15-20 - and from there next cohort are becoming less and less - another 10yrs - these 15-20 - will be 25-30 - then another 10yrs - mid 2035 - we would have hit demographic jackpot - so to speak

1) Image No 1: General demographic transition model
2) Image No 2: Kenya census 2019 - please pay attention to red circle I drew. That is kenya demographic Inflection point - subsequently you see less and less kids compared to next cohort.
3) Image No 3: Botswana - upper middle class country like South Africa - showing their demographic transition
4) Image no 4: SSA versus South Asia - showing the difference in population structure.

So basically, kenya is now at stage 3 leaving many SSA stuck in stage 1 & 2 and a decade or two - it's will be a stage 4 - which where most rapid growth happen - and stage 5 is generally developed or advanced countries like Japan or Europe struggling with aging population (replacement rate start becoming issues)

jl115:
every time you spew this tripe you just get dumber in my book..... There is 0 evidence that even remotely suggests this.... In fact the GDP gap between SA and Kenya has widened considerably since 2020.

Yes eventually Kenya will overtake SA however that will solely be down to population growth and will only happen near the end of this century

#1) Demographic transition.
Generally, the more adults you have to kids; the more savings/investments/workers - and less the dependancy - and that is when a country really starts to grow. You cannot grow when you're busy feeding kids, building schools for ever increasing kids, hospitals and such - families and gov all busy child rearing - and hardly have any money left to save or invest in other things.

Once you have something like China - 1 child policy - eventually meant 4 people (grand parents & parent) looking after 1 child - you grow very rapidly - the 1 child is well fed, well schooled, name it - and the parents still have money to rake up savings, invest in properties, save for pension - gov has the money to build roads & railways.

That is story behind China and South Asia success.

In most of SSA africa - the situation is different - you have 2 parents - taking care of 5-10 kids and other dependants - that person can hardly save anything - as it's hand to mouth living - all activities geared toward feeding, clothing, educating kids - gov similarly spend almost all the budget on education, healthcare for same and hardly anything left.

It's almost trite that a country cannot develop when fertility rate is still more than 2%.

Kenya is soon joining South Africa, Botswana, Namibia in that 2% fertility - because of huge investment in contraceptive and family planning.

rvp2018:
Why dont you ask for evidence instead of becoming combative?

The facts are overwhelming - you're just blinded folded by dogma.

1) Let starts with population - South Africa still 10 million ahead - and kenya might actually not overtake it. Kenya demographic had an inflection point somewhere in 2016. This we noted first in National Household Survey which was confirmed by census in 2019.

The largest population was 10-15 - now they should be the 15-20 - and from there next cohort are becoming less and less - another 10yrs - these 15-20 - will be 25-30 - then another 10yrs - mid 2035 - we would have hit demographic jackpot - so to speak

1) Image No 1: General demographic transition model
2) Image No 2: Kenya census 2019 - please pay attention to red circle I drew. That is kenya demographic Inflection point - subsequently you see less and less kids compared to next cohort.
3) Image No 3: Botswana - upper middle class country like South Africa - showing their demographic transition
4) Image no 4: SSA versus South Asia - showing the difference in population structure.

So basically

Bru I swear you just post random bullsh1t to justify your ret@rdedness

Next time just google population projections:

South Africa 2022: 61.1 million
Kenya 2022: 56.6 million

South Africa 2030: 65.9 million
Kenya 2030: 66.4 million

South Africa 2050: 75.5 million
Kenya 2050: 91.5 million

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/south-africa-population/

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/kenya-population/#:~:text=The%20current%20population%20of%20Kenya,the%20latest%20United%20Nations%20data.

Again you're resorting to insults to cover you lack of content.

Let us have civilized debate hunter and gatherer. This is not the wild.

I use official data - and I am aware of official census data including projection.

Avoid those websites when you have official dat or me - I know most the data inside out.

Kenya population was 47.5M in 2019. It's now projected to be about 51M. South Africa projected to be roughly 61M.

The crappy site you pasted projected kenya population to be 52M in 2019.

Kenya spend more than 200M dollars to count it people and said they are 47.3M. This is not guesswork. This is census

Kenya is adding roughly a million and few thousands every year - roughly a million if you minus deaths - so 2029 - next cenus - it likely to be 55-56m. South Africa likely to be maybe 65M.

That 10 million gap looks less and less likely to be bridge. Uganda will certainly overtake kenya soon - and race ahead - because they are breeding like rats.

jl115:
Bru I swear you just post random bullsh1t to justify your ret@rdedness

Next time just google population projections:

South Africa 2022: 61.1 million
Kenya 2022: 56.6 million

South Africa 2030: 65.9 million
Kenya 2030: 66.4 million

South Africa 2050: 75.5 million
Kenya 2050: 91.5 million

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/south-africa-population/

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/kenya-population/#:~:text=The%20current%20population%20of%20Kenya,the%20latest%20United%20Nations%20data.

rvp2018:
Why dont you ask for evidence instead of becoming combative?

The facts are overwhelming - you're just blinded folded by dogma.

1) Let starts with population - South Africa still 10 million ahead - and kenya might actually not overtake it. Kenya demographic had an inflection point somewhere in 2016. This we noted first in National Household Survey which was confirmed by census in 2019.

The largest population was 10-15 - now they should be the 15-20 - and from there next cohort are becoming less and less - another 10yrs - these 15-20 - will be 25-30 - then another 10yrs - mid 2035 - we would have hit demographic jackpot - so to speak

1) Image No 1: General demographic transition model
2) Image No 2: Kenya census 2019 - please pay attention to red circle I drew. That is kenya demographic Inflection point - subsequently you see less and less kids compared to next cohort.
3) Image No 3: Botswana - upper middle class country like South Africa - showing their demographic transition
4) Image no 4: SSA versus South Asia - showing the difference in population structure.

So basically, kenya is now at stage 3 leaving many SSA stuck in stage 1 & 2 and a decade or two - it's will be a stage 4 - which where most rapid growth happen - and stage 5 is generally developed or advanced countries like Japan or Europe struggling with aging population (replacement rate start becoming issues)

1. Kenya population is at 55m in 2022, making 5m difference not 10m

Kenya population growth is twice that of SA in 5-8 years Kenya should be just as equal

Slum dog, this debate is beyond your paygrade, let the hunting Boer respond. Kenya population at last count was 47.5m and now projected to be anything 51-52m.

I know you're dying to be overtaken by population - but kenya is keen in overtaking you GDP wise.

Uganda is definitely overtaking you population wise

AfriqueDuZuid:
1. Kenya population is at 55m in 2022, making 5m difference not 10m

Kenya population growth is twice that of SA in 5-8 years Kenya should be just as equal

jl115:
have you forgotten my previous post? Yes we have 17 majors

Also this is 81....since we screenshotting Wiki now

Dutch and German flag... At the pick of apartheid. No black ever represented this flag, that was a taboo.

You're still posting J kriek. That is zero win for SA -- 2 wins for USA . I want to see wins with your current flag. Prove me wrong.

rvp2018:
Slum dog, this debate is beyond your paygrade, let the hunting Boer respond. Kenya population at last count was 47.5m and now projected to be anything 51-52m.

I know you're dying to be overtaken by population - but kenya is keen in overtaking you GDP wise.

Uganda is overtaking you population wise

Absolutely .

Just40:
cry more.

All the countries I mentioned earn more from tourism than Kenya

You earn from your own... We don't. That is the difference. A Kenya coming back to see his mother doesn't count in tourism receipts.

Why should someone visit Ghana? Give me 2 reasons.

rvp2018:
Slum dog, this debate is beyond your paygrade, let the hunting Boer respond. Kenya population at last count was 47.5m and now projected to be anything 51-52m.

I know you're dying to be overtaken by population - but kenya is keen in overtaking you GDP wise.

Uganda is definitely overtaking you population wise

Nope you are Kenya is 55m in 2022

Interms of gdp you 114 n we 420 in 2022

AfriqueDuZuid:
Nope you are Kenya is 55m in 2022

Interms of gdp you 114 n we 420 in 2022

Why do you want to fight facts?

I know you have the same moral standards of west africans.
You dont need to argue over these kinds of figures. Let argue over theories.
KNBS did census - and they do projections - including GDP data.
https://www.knbs.or.ke/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-Economic-Survey1.pdf

AfriqueDuZuid:
Nope you are Kenya is 55m in 2022

Interms of gdp you 114 n we 420 in 2022

obaaderemi:
You better ignore her. She is completely flustered by the facts. You are wasting your time arguing with a girl who thinks a ranking of 100 is greater than a ranking of 5.

Gorilla, who can confuse 100 for 5? This statement alone has proven the fact that your cognitive ceiling is below 40% --- way below average.

Go and exercise your brain cells -- lest you embarrass yourself. Being a wuss by Leaking @sses and seeking support is a futile attempt, especially towards people like us. Our psychological instincts are way past the Radar.

rvp2018:
I know you have the same moral standards of west africans.
You dont need to argue over these kinds of figures. Let argue over theories.
KNBS did census - and they do projections - including GDP data.
https://www.knbs.or.ke/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-Economic-Survey1.pdf

Yes, he might be a Ghanaian masquerading to be a South African. There is a 69% chance of him being a hobbit.

Apparently, Obaboon is waiting for someone to quote me so that his weak @ss can go and retaliate from there. Very useless piece of crap.

Just40:


You're mad again why is your tourism sector not earning more than that of Ghana? Torist spend more money in Ghana at fancy restaurants and bars which are many here than Kenya.
They also spend more on events and accomodations than in Kenya..


Those are the outcomes we look for.

You mean tourist come to spend money in some restaurant and bars

Ghana is just too beautiful on a Christmas drive


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzxBV6Dd84Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXMxNdXF4U