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Shma2022:
Are you on adulterated coc@in?

get off that toxic drink you've been drinking and your mind will clear up...

Talk about tourism when Kenya starts generating 3 billion from it either wise shut up and learn

Every country has their methodology of who a tourist is....and what constitute tourism. Always start from common sense test. Smell it, see it, feel it.

If you feel kenya tourism is ahead of Ghana like common sense says; stop.

Ghana fails the common sense test in many things.

we cannot go to data when you fail eye test.

You cannot look like chicken coop or your town look shietty and claim we are doing great HOW NOW?

If you land in developed country - immediately at airport - you know it - they dont print GDP per capita or data - you see it; you touch it; you feel it.

If you land in Accra - I am told you smell it - the smell of human raw waste - pungent smell - you immediately know you've landed in a shiet hole right from the airport.

Just40:
Since when did diaspora become Ghanaians?

Or you don't know who the diaspora is?

Find another excuse for why Ghana smoke your country in tourism

Shma2022:
They are Ghanians in the diaspora... Still Ghanaians. Exactly what I previously told you.

Did you read Ghanaian diaspora or your read diaspora?

The Ghanaian diaspora does not use tourist visa to enter Ghana.

Next excuse

Just40:
Since when did diaspora become Ghanaians?

Or you don't know who the diaspora is?

Find another excuse for why Ghana smoke your country in tourism

..........

Shma2022:
Remove Ghana and Nigeria. Natives should not count as visitors. We know how backward your nations are, so every individual is escaping to Europe, Kenya, south Africa, and America to find a better living. So going back to visit your Mother should not count.

Visitors flood in Kenya to enjoy beautiful sceneries: beautiful Sand dunes, wildlife, beautiful beaches, snow caped mountain, etc... I don't think Ghana has any. Your seashore is home to the homeless and thugs, Who will wish to visit there?

This is it.
South Africa
Kenya
Egypt
Tanzania
Nigeria
Rwanda
Namibia

Just40:
Did you read Ghanaian diaspora or your read diaspora?

The Ghanaian diaspora does not use tourist visa to enter Ghana.

Next excuse

Open the link and read. I don't need to spoon-feed zombies.

Yes... They are the children of Ghanaian slaves.

Just40:
get off that toxic drink you've been drinking and your mind will clear up...

Talk about tourism when Kenya starts generating 3 billion from it either wise shut up and learn

Ghana should first hit $2B before we can advance this topic. Kenya is already past that.

Go slow on g@nja.

kkins25:
Shame on you, cuz I'm actually Ghanaian nd Nigerian. I brag about Nigeria to Ghanains too. Why will I brag about Nigeria to a Nigerian? You well?

Yes, u no well

rvp2018:
Every country has their methodology of who a tourist is....and what constitute tourism. Always start from common sense test. Smell it, see it, feel it.

If you feel kenya tourism is ahead of Ghana like common sense says; stop.

Ghana fails the common sense test in many things.

we cannot go to data when you fail eye test.

You cannot look like chicken coop or your town look shietty and claim we are doing great HOW NOW?

Running away from the fact that Kenya generates less than a billion from Tourism.


Kenya can't be looking like a pig pen with no international events that attract tourist yearly and be trying to compete with the big boys.

Modernize your country Tourism from the cheap safari tour and you'll be be earning more money like Ghana.

Look at Afrochella, a signature big event bringing together the diaspora from everywhere for an end of year party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufPMWXVARYw

Afronation.. another big party gathering the African diaspora from every part of the world


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvAf4-U87U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNP5MTryrB0

Kenyans don't have a vibe hence can't earn as much... Sex tourism with grand ladies won't get you 3 billion

Shma2022:
Open the link and read. I don't need to spoon-feed zombies.

Yes... They are the children of Ghanaian slaves.

Good luck competiting with excuses

No wonder Kenya Tourism receipt is less than a billion
The mediocrity is too much

Shma2022:
Ghana should first hit $2B before we can advance this topic. Kenya is already past that.

Go slow on g@nja.

Ghana is already taking 3.1 billion dollars in receipts.

Kenya is still doing a billion dollars... Go compete with Uganda

Go to bed... Hit me up in 5 years time when Kenya starts doing 3 billion dollars in tourism receipts

You're counting what in kenya we call summer bunnies as tourist?

Nigeria and Ghana - you got no tourism.

You have Ghanian diaspora returning for xmas.

We dont count those as tourist.

Here in Kenya, the Kenyans living or studying abroad who come to visit and vacation home are collectively known as 'summer bunnies'. I don't know where the term originated from but I've heard it a lot recently and been referred as one when I'm here on holiday

What you call tourists are Ghanians coming home for xmas.

You got NO TOURISM sector - that is why white dude is a rarity in many of your countries.

Just40:
Running away from the fact that Kenya generates less than a billion from Tourism.


Kenya can't be looking like a pig pen with no international events that attract tourist yearly and be trying to compete with the big boys.

Modernize your country Tourism from the cheap safari tour and you'll be be earning more money like Ghana.

Look at Afrochella, a signature big event bringing together the diaspora from everywhere for an end of year party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufPMWXVARYw

Afronation.. another big party gathering the African diaspora from every part of the world


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvAf4-U87U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNP5MTryrB0

Kenyans don't have a vibe hence can't earn as much... Sex tourism with grand ladies won't get you 3 billion

Shma2022:
I asked you a simple question, which 17 wins are you talking about.?

Forget about shifting goalposts.

It's ironic since you're the one constantly shifting goalposts. I corner you on this, you secretly jump to the next topic without conceding the previous defeat.

- you have amnesia? Here refresh you memory after you asked me the same question 2 days ago:

jl115:
Muppet............ John Kriek won 2 Australian opens, Kevin Curren won 4 doubles grand slams, Frew Mcmillan, won 5 doubles grand slam titles , Sandra Reynolds won 5 grand slam doubles titles , Danie Visser 3 doubles grand slam titles.

Then Kevin Anderson and Wayne Ferreira make your blokes record look like childs play

Then liezel Huber also won 2 while representing SA

Also now its about flags all of a sudden... Fvcking ridiculous bru ..... But I'll end on this as well if you want

Poor Ghanian..in Kenya generally when summer bunnies like me land...kenyans just leave town for them - with fake American accent in tow. Those are not tourist. Those are kenyans in diaspora coming to club and party before they resume winters.

Majority infact when they fly in - fish their kenyan passport - and come as locals.

Here in Kenya, the Kenyans living or studying abroad who come to visit and vacation home are collectively known as 'summer bunnies'. I don't know where the term originated from but I've heard it a lot recently and been referred as one when I'm here on holiday

BREAKING: SUMMER BUNNIES HAVE STARTED LANDING AT JKIA

Do you count this as TOURISM or DIASPORA REMITTANCE?

West Africa Tourism; Summer Bunnies
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/features/article/2001434601/from-forced-accent-to-culture-shock-things-that-make-summer-bunnies-look-like-strangers

The two hits made the highlights during two major Nairobi-hosted gigs last weekend; one held at the former Kiza Lounge, now known as Kulture, and another held at Four Points by Sheraton in Hurlingham, Nairobi.

Both were predominantly attended by Kenyans from the Diaspora who were back home for the December holidays.

It is not over though. The last of the Summer Bunnies parties were on this weekend.

Traditionally the Nairobi mid-January period is usually livened by club action by Summer Bunnies holding their last parties before flying back abroad for another year of academics and work.

Typically, Summer Bunny parties are like throwback parties dedicated to homesick Kenyans, who after being away from the country for long, get to catch up with all that has been taking place in the party scene throughout the year.

They hang out in the clubs bonding with the ‘local peeps’ who share all the interesting things about the party life. A joke is shared on how these Summer Bunnies speak with accent, having been away in “America” and have the image of a foreigner; white cotton Gucci and Louis Vuitton apparels and sunglasses (to say its Summer).

In fact, in most parties, it is dictated that attendees should wear white.

rvp2018:
Now we can proceed. Let us try to elevate this MAD HOUSE to something we can all benefit from.Otherwise if we just heckle ; we all lose; Personally I fell I have so much knowledge to share; that I have painstakingly gathered; it frustrating when african resort to monkey games on serious stuff.

Look at Ghana - 5yrs ago - I said - youre gonna go bankrupt and crush a generation.

They immediately think I hate Ghana why would I hate Ghana What has Ghana done to me? Nothing? This country that like Zambia you can admire as democratic Africa country but the more you dig in - the more you understand their fiscal indiscipline and imprudence.

Why would I hate South Africa.

If you cannot take National or Country level criticism; pray can your personal feedback from your supervisor?

Is South Africa in a middle class rut like LATAM. yES YES Yes. That is a fact that data at least from 15yrs now is screaming. The country is unable to move forward or back. It stuck. It is almost default position for many upper middle class...that is why from 4,000 it goes all the way to 12,00 to become developed...per capita...it very difficult for countries to graduate to developed world. The whole of South America it was only Argentina and later Chile...despite being near US.

Are other countries going to graduate from low middle income to upper middle income - of course - Kenya is one of them. They will find south africa stuck.

For South Africa to follow Mauritus footstep it need to do alot of things - first is serious education reform.

One way you could tell Mauritus were heading to developed world - their education quality was highest - kenya followed - that mean their people can easily transition to HIGH IQ stuff that developed or advanced economy demands.

Hunting BOER - we are growing if you use the RAND -- hehehe - A Bonobo BOER. Growth is so broad based whatever you use - should be obvious. South Africa gdp is stuck at 350-400B dollars the last 10yrs plus. Nothing suggest anything will change.

So many words yet so little said as usual....you are on of the Special kinds that think you are smarter than all the economists of the world combined...smarter than the IMF, Smarter than the WB, smarter than PWC ect ect ect...... Unlike you I don't claim to be an expert on all things, my posts are based solely of facts and research done not just by people more qualified than me but organisations with millions of dollars available for research funding.

It really doesn't matter what sources I post here be it from the IMF or PWC you would still say dumb sh1t like " Kenya will overtake SA in 10 years" when in reality that simply won't happen and simple projections by the IMF and PWC clearly show this, Kenya will only surpass SA by the end of the century thanks to population growth.... Which ironically you also know more about than any organisation on earth

You twist and turn like a trapped animal that you find in your hunting escapades instead of accepting stubborn facts.
2013 - Kenya had GDP of 40B.
2023 - Keny has GDP of almost 120B.

10yrs ago - South Africa was 400B - now it 400BN - round off.

Kenya has grown 3 times in a decade; South Africa stuck in middle class trap or rut ;

Conclusion : Ceteris Paribus as Latin would say next 10yrs.

kenya will be 360b - South Africa 400B.

The rest are really details.

The dollar is not unfair to South Africa - South Africa is stuck at best going down at worse.

jl115:
So many words yet so little said as usual....you are on of the Special kinds that think you are smarter than all the economists of the world combined...smarter than the IMF, Smarter than the WB, smarter than PWC ect ect ect...... Unlike you I don't claim to be an expert on all things, my posts are based solely of facts and research done not just by people more qualified than me but organisations with millions of dollars available for research funding.

It really doesn't matter what sources I post here be it from the IMF or PWC you would still say dumb sh1t like " Kenya will overtake SA in 10 years" when in reality that simply won't happen and simple projections by the IMF and PWC clearly show this, Kenya will only surpass SA by the end of the century thanks to population growth.... Which ironically you also know more about than any organisation on earth

Just40:
Running away from the fact that Kenya generates less than a billion from Tourism.


Kenya can't be looking like a pig pen with no international events that attract tourist yearly and be trying to compete with the big boys.

Modernize your country Tourism from the cheap safari tour and you'll be be earning more money like Ghana.

Look at Afrochella, a signature big event bringing together the diaspora from everywhere for an end of year party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufPMWXVARYw

Afronation.. another big party gathering the African diaspora from every part of the world


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvAf4-U87U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNP5MTryrB0

Kenyans don't have a vibe hence can't earn as much... Sex tourism with grand ladies won't get you 3 billion

You are right. It's the vibe. That's what Kenya is missing. They have great natural sights but they don't know how to make money from them. They just want to leave everything in the hands of foreigners.
Like I opined on the other thread years ago, epic movies and great documentaries can be made in Kenya that could shake up Hollywood but Kenyans don't have the vibe like you said. Nor do they have an entertainment industry rich enough for such. The role these things play in forex exchange earnings can not be overemphasized. Look at the lion King for instance. Instead, movies like The Constant Gardener which focused on the Kibera slum are made about Kenya.

West Africa has many carnivals and shows that attract many people yearly. West Africa is the home of vibe. Nairaland for instance.

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rvp20182:
You twist and turn like a trapped animal that you find in your hunting escapades instead of accepting stubborn facts.
2013 - Kenya had GDP of 40B.
2023 - Keny has GDP of almost 120B.

10yrs ago - South Africa was 400B - now it 400BN - round off.

Kenya has grown 3 times in a decade; South Africa stuck in middle class trap or rut ;

Conclusion : Ceteris Paribus as Latin would say next 10yrs.

kenya will be 360b - South Africa 400B.

The rest are really details.

The dollar is not unfair to South Africa - South Africa is stuck at best going down at worse.

just stfu with your "thumb suck" nonsense and till me where is Kenya in 2050?

Youre stuck with one projection like KaziKazi of Tanzania How desperate?

jl115:
just stfu with your "thumb suck" nonsense and till me where is Kenya in 2050?

rvp2018:
Youre stuck with one projection like KaziKazi of Tanzania How desperate?

it's all I need bru... We talking pwc not some anonymous e warrior named rvp2018

Just show me one.... I literally mean just one projection from a credible institution that puts Kenya ahead of SA before 2080

All these have been done in Kenya for donkeys' years since 1900. Hemmingways the great American author was in Kenya in 1910s. American president Rossevelt. Churchil. Almost 1/4 the National Geographic shot in kenya. Many hollywood movies shot in kenya.

Kenya or TZ or South Africa or name it - well sold - problem is nobody can afford it except the rich.

Kenya and Africa tourism (leave summer bunnies coming to vist their mother and f.ck your local girlfriend in local lodges) has big problem

It's seen and it is very expensive - and is only for the very rich white or now some asian folks.

Majority of say European tourist - fly to destination costing 50 dollars for flight - mostly within their continent - or to Asia. Thailands and rest of Asia are dirty cheap. North Africa benefit because its near Europe.

South Africa receive 10 million tourist - 8million plus are Africans.

There are only two ways out of this - make Africa a low-cost destinations - and secondly encourage domestic or africa tourism - 50:50 for sustainable industry;

To be low cost we have to borrow from Asians - the Thailands and the rest. We have to open tourist sector for small budget hotels. We also have to work on reducing airline tickets in Africa. It very expensive to fly in Africa - because of taxes, lack of airports and then lack of customers (compound the problem).

Counting summer bunnies as tourism is good feel nonsense.

Flying to Africa has to be fixed. Africa free airspace is start - but there is long way to go. Until it dirty cheap to fly - no tourist will spend 2,000 dollars for air ticket alone - and if they do - it normally a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Flight - and cost of lodges - to stay in many of these lodges cost even 1,000 dollars a night - some animal park entry fees is 200 dollars per person - end of day - it become a product for the rich or those who save for long time - not vacation destination like it is for summer bunnies.

Thailand and rest of south asia - you can get decent places for even 20 dollars a night.

obaaderemi:
You are right. It's the vibe. That's what Kenya is missing. They have great natural sights but they don't know how to make money from them. They just want to leave everything in the hands of foreigners.
Like I opined on the other thread years ago, epic movies and great documentaries can be made in Kenya that could shake up Hollywood but Kenyans don't have the vibe like you said. Nor do they have an entertainment industry rich enough for such. The role these things play in forex exchange earnings can not be overemphasized. Look at the lion King for instance.

West Africa has many carnivals and shows that attract many people yearly. West Africa is the home of vibe. Nairaland for instance.

rvp20182:
You're counting what in kenya we call summer bunnies as tourist?

Nigeria and Ghana - you got no tourism.

You have Ghanian diaspora returning for xmas.

We dont count those as tourist.

Here in Kenya, the Kenyans living or studying abroad who come to visit and vacation home are collectively known as 'summer bunnies'. I don't know where the term originated from but I've heard it a lot recently and been referred as one when I'm here on holiday

What you call tourists are Ghanians coming home for xmas.

You got NO TOURISM sector - that is why white dude is a rarity in many of your countries.

Ghanaian diaspora do not travel on tourist visas, neither do those on the African continent.

Look for another excuse for Kenya mediocre tourism performance


Both Ghana and Nigeria have a tourism industry bigger than yours ... Go and rest old man, your brain is overheating out of the pain you have to endure because of the irrelevancy of Kenya on this front

obaaderemi:
You are right. It's the vibe. That's what Kenya is missing. They have great natural sights but they don't know how to make money from them. They just want to leave everything in the hands of foreigners.
Like I opined on the other thread years ago, epic movies and great documentaries can be made in Kenya that could shake up Hollywood but Kenyans don't have the vibe like you said. Nor do they have an entertainment industry rich enough for such. The role these things play in forex exchange earnings can not be overemphasized. Look at the lion King for instance. Instead, movies like The Constant Gardener which focused on the Kibera slum are made about Kenya.

West Africa has many carnivals and shows that attract many people yearly. West Africa is the home of vibe. Nairaland for instance.

It will take a Kenyan 3 decades to understand this

jl115:
just stfu with your "thumb suck" nonsense and till me where is Kenya in 2050?

That kid just gather words together that makes no sense.

I wonder if he reads the things he type here

Just40:

That kid just gather words together that makes no sense.
I wonder if he reads the things he type here

Kid lives in La La Land.

Just40:
cry more..

All the countries I mentioned earn more from tourism than Kenya

Typical West African behaviour. Reason why I've never taken any of you serious. Lack of code and honour.

Shma2022:
You earn from your own... We don't. That is the difference. A Kenya coming back to see his mother doesn't count in tourism receipts.

Why should someone visit Ghana? Give me 2 reasons.

Tell me why a man who lacks code and honour should be taken seriously. He knows very well those numbers include local tourist but still insists on debating the obvious. You see these are the type of friends you don't want to be around.

Saddamochieng00:
Typical West African behaviour. Reason why I've never taken any of you serious. Lack of code and honour.

You just described Kenyans properly. Kenyans generally lack Code of Honour. No wonder you in particular do not know it's called Code of Honour and not Code and Honour. No one takes you seriously.

Saddamochieng00:
Tell me why a man who lacks code and honour should be taken seriously. He knows very well those numbers include local tourist but still insists on debating the obvious. You see these are the type of friends you don't want to be around.

Code of Honour, my little Indian. I thought the first one was a mistake. Clearly you are ignorant. Why should we take you seriously?

Explain this tiny image that is barely visible.
And if someone made projection in 2010 without knowing your ship had hit an iceberg, they are now very wrong.
I think South Africa will be where it is in 10yrs. Medium term projection is 0-1% growth for next 5yrs. That takes us to 2028.
I don't see anything that will radically change.
In fact, these days South Africa celebrate 1.5% growth - like this year - with record export earnings from all the minerals.
South Africa been sick economically since 2010 together with Nigeria (2014).
You're likely to regress further than grow - now you have eskom , record unemployment, crime continues to get out of hand.

Kenya GDP will likely triple from 120 to 360B like it has done the last decade. I dont see why not.
Kenya pulled 7.5% recovery from covid last year and will accelerate this year by 6.5% despite being tough year - of drought & election- (already 1st half we had 6% growth - 1st Q was 11%)
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/12/08/kenya-s-economic-recovery-remains-strong-although-slowed-by-drought-and-inflation

And next year 2023 I see growth charging forward.

jl115:
just stfu with your "thumb suck" nonsense and till me where is Kenya in 2050?

You have no honour obabboon as person and as region. That is why almost everywhere you have poor reputation. You're pathological liars with no moral compunction. Kenya and kenyans have generally good reputation as hardworking people who follow the law. That is why Dubai excluded kenya from African list of bans and South Africa has allowed visa free entry. If you go to Qatar - the entire airport is run by Kenyans.

Got this from twitter just right now


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Being able to dupe someone has become a virtue in KE. In business dealings, politics, relationships etc.
This was only a thing in Nigeria back in the day.
Today ppl are reading Art of War, 48 laws of power etc and believe being duplicitous is intelligence .

obaaderemi:
Code of Honour, my little Indian. I thought the first one was a mistake. Clearly you are ignorant. Why should we take you seriously?