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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 7:32pm On Dec 10, 2022
Just30:
Uhuru is not even richer than the Bediako brothers in Ghana let alone be a billionaire so sleep na there's nothing in your uncivilized village like richness.


Read and cry more grin grin
That is your topic, not mine. I am not here to compare Uhuru with hobbits. Uhuru is a dollar billionaire. One of the richest men in Africa. His wealth will never be documented.

Now I see you've jumped into individual's wealth. Amazing!

Lemme enlighten you. Do you know kenya,Egyptt, Nigeria, morocco, and south africa accounts for 50% of the total African wealth?
Kenya has nearly 3 times high net individuals than Ghana --- and majority stay in rural areas.

As quaoted:
The continent of Africa contains more than 50 countries, but just five account for more than half of total wealth on the continent: South Africa, Egypt, Nigeria, Morocco, and Kenya.

Next topic ?

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by IGpro1(m): 7:34pm On Dec 10, 2022
All of a sudden, GDP figure is now important to Kenyans, grin

Kenyans have feminine behaviour... They argue like house wives grin

On the Dressing part..
If your dressing originates from the western world, you should evolve with them.

Suits, trousers, shirts and the likes are supposed to be fitted these days,
But these Kenyans have refused to evolve,
They are left in the 60s when the fashion then was buggy dresses, oversized suits and trousers, big ties and odd shoes with pointed curved mouth.
In Nigeria, we tend to even teach the whites how it is worn,

And we pride In our cultural attires even at the govt level.

Kenyans talking if night life? when Lagos is the entertainment capital of Africa
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 7:36pm On Dec 10, 2022
jl115:
yes I know.....that wasn't the bone of contention, you said the growth used was constant for all the years....which clearly it isn't..... Yet another common Shma L
The bone of contention was projected data --- data from 2023 onwards. Yes. I said all the rates from 2023 were static. I was very correct, my my bro.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi:
rvp2018:
Obaboon,
Kenya school unrest is a problem that we are addressing as progressive nation. It's not animalistic - it's parent leaving parental responsibility to schools - schools and parents forcing kids to do rigorous studies and exam - and etc.

We already address this 1) Reducing workload 2) Removing exams & replacing them with assessment that happen throughout - no need for final do or die WASCE exam - everdyay a kid does CATs - it count for something ,And now has started to abolish boarding schools. These reforms are now going into their 10th year.

Now let move over to the Zoo - university lecturer strike is now clocking 1 yr - universities teem with cults that engage in human sacrifices - and later graduate to organized criminals that engage in kidnapping.

Your zoo will never tell kenya nothing.

Functional country whenever it faces challenges - will address challenges. A Zoo is unable to address electricity challenges going into 30yrs plus, university lectures and funding, name it, everything in Nigeria is almost broken.
R I P, you are nothing but animals. When schoolboys aged below 18 go on rampage raping and killing and burning female students of the same stock, and a grandpa like you posts such videos to hype the act on social media, there's nothing else to do but see you as animals.
You were the same individual hailing Kenyan men renting their wives out to tourists, same you posted videos of school principals being lynched for the failure of frivolous high school kids. You've sunk as a country.

No wonder people starve yearly and the best you could do is to use them as specimens with which to get foreign aid. Useless animals with a total lack of Code of Honour.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 7:37pm On Dec 10, 2022
IGpro1:
All of a sudden, GDP figure is now important to Kenyans, grin

Kenyans have feminine behaviour... They argue like house wives grin

On the Dressing part..
If your dressing originates from the western world, you should evolve with them.

Suits, trousers, shirts and the likes are supposed to be fitted these days,
But these Kenyans have refused to evolve,
They are left in the 60s when the fashion then was buggy dresses, oversized suits and trousers, big ties and odd shoes with pointed curved mouth.
In Nigeria, we tend to even teach the whites how it is worn,

And we pride In our cultural attires even at the govt level.

Kenyans talking if night life? when Lagos is the entertainment capital of Africa
Obaboon, You forgot to switch monikers. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:25pm On Dec 10, 2022
No body can predict anything. It one of hardest thing to do. Nobody saw South Africa tanking the way its done since 2010. People thought it was emerging power in BRIC. Now that look like a big joke struggling against kenya. Nobody saw corona. Nobody saw Ukraine-Russian war bankrupting Ghana for next 15yrs.

Nobody can predict even world cup.

So make your prediction based on data and make a convincing case.

jl115:
out of the horses mouth.... Rvp officially says he can predict economic growth and the IMF and WB can't grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:27pm On Dec 10, 2022
When I highlight kenya problems - you complain. When I fail to do that - you claim we are hiding our problems. Kenya has problems. The difference btw it and Nigeria - kenya is fixing their problems - and it show up in data, indices, videos, pictures.

Kenya is a progressive nation like Rwanda.

Nigeria is a retrogressive nation like Ghana and South Africa. One has gone completely bankrupt (Ghana) one doesnt even know it went bankrupt long time ago (Nigeria - it long exceeded 100% debt servicing ratio & hardly spend on anything on it's citizens - citizens are on their own) and one is delusional of it's greatness - of the bygone era - South Africa hoping one day ANC will disappear.

Meanwhile Kenya, Ivory Coast, Rwanda and Ethiopia before their stupid civil war - are some of countries moving fast forward. I should add Somalia...their new president is pretty serious smiley

obaaderemi:
R I P, you are nothing but animals. When schoolboys aged below 18 go on rampage raping and killing and burning female students of the same stock, and a grandpa like you posts such videos to hype the act on social media, there's nothing else to do but see you as animals.
You were the same individual hailing Kenyan men renting their wives out to tourists, same you posted videos of school principals being lynched for the failure of frivolous high school kids. You've sunk as a country.

No wonder people starve yearly and the best you could do is to use them as specimens with which to get foreign aid. Useless animals with a total lack of Code of Honour.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:47pm On Dec 10, 2022
rvp20182:
When I highlight kenya problems - you complain. When I fail to do that - you claim we are hiding our problems. Kenya has problems. The difference btw it and Nigeria - kenya is fixing their problems - and it show up in data, indices, videos, pictures.

Kenya is a progressive nation like Rwanda.

Nigeria is a retrogressive nation like Ghana and South Africa. One has gone completely bankrupt (Ghana) one doesnt even know it went bankrupt long time ago (Nigeria - it long exceeded 100% debt servicing ratio & hardly spend on anything on it's citizens - citizens are on their own) and one is delusional of it's greatness - of the bygone era - South Africa hoping one day ANC will disappear.

Meanwhile Kenya, Ivory Coast, Rwanda and Ethiopia before their stupid civil war - are some of countries moving fast forward. I should add Somalia...their new president is pretty serious smiley
When you highlight problems and make them seem normal then it shows something is terribly wrong with the Kenyan psyche.

Kenya is not progressive. The slums are growing, your debts are getting unsustainable, your currency is also struggling, your major exports are falling, education is in shambles, etc.

Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa are countries you look forward to catching up with every year- Nigeria and South Africa in terms of GDP, Ghana in terms of Hdi. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:01pm On Dec 10, 2022
Shma2022:
The bone of contention was projected data --- data from 2023 onwards. Yes. I said all the rates from 2023 were static. I was very correct, my my bro.
they are not static bru.... Are you blind?

Another L

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:03pm On Dec 10, 2022
rvp20182:
No body can predict anything. It one of hardest thing to do. Nobody saw South Africa tanking the way its done since 2010. People thought it was emerging power in BRIC. Now that look like a big joke struggling against kenya. Nobody saw corona. Nobody saw Ukraine-Russian war bankrupting Ghana for next 15yrs.

Nobody can predict even world cup.

So make your prediction based on data and make a convincing case.
but you are predicting Kenya will overtake SA in 10 years grin grin grin..... If nobody can predict anything, how can you predict it?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 9:09pm On Dec 10, 2022
jl115:
they are not static bru.... Are you blind?

Another L
_2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 ------- 5.5%.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:14pm On Dec 10, 2022
Yes I could be totally wrong; I cannot predict tomorrow; leave alone 10 or 15 yrs;

My caveat emptor: Ceteris Paribus. In English - if all things continue they way they are.

jl115:
but you are predicting Kenya will overtake SA in 10 years grin grin grin..... If nobody can predict anything, how can you predict it?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:16pm On Dec 10, 2022
Ghana’s currency, the Cedi, has started gaining strength. It posted world’s biggest gain against the US Dollar last week. .

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:21pm On Dec 10, 2022
Shma2022:
_2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 ------- 5.5%.
that's the prediction... You can clearly see SAs growth moving
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:21pm On Dec 10, 2022
Coming from the horse mouth

Ghana has been ranked as the 5th Most Talent Competitive country in Africa in the Global Talent Competitive Index (GTCI) for 2022.

Global Talent Competitive Index is a comprehensive annual benchmarking report that measures how countries and cities grow, attract and retain talent. It provides a unique resource for decision makers to understand the global talent competitiveness picture and develop strategies to boost their economies.

Top 20 Africa's s most talent competitive countries in 2022

1. South Africa �� (77th)
2. Egypt �� (86th)
3. Tunisia �� (91st)
4. Gambia �� (94th)
5. Ghana �� (95th)
6. Morocco �� (96th)
7. Kenya �� (97th)
8. Eswatini �� (100th)
9. Zambia �� (102nd)
10. Algeria �� (104th)
11. Benin �� (105th)
12. Rwanda ��(106th)
13. Senegal �� 107
14. Nigeria �� (109th)
15. Côte d'Ivoire (115th)
16. Malawi �� (116th)
17. Tanzania �� (117th)
18. Zimbabwe �� (118th)
19. Cameroon �� (119th)
20. Lesotho �� (120th)


#Source: Global Talent Competitive Index (GTCI) 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:22pm On Dec 10, 2022
rvp20182:
Yes I could be totally wrong; I cannot predict tomorrow; leave alone 10 or 15 yrs;

My caveat emptor: Ceteris Paribus. In English - if all things continue they way they are.
So you acknowledge you are just trolling and talking absolute dog sh1t
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:26pm On Dec 10, 2022
vaxx:
Coming from the house mouth

Ghana has been ranked as the 5th Most Talent Competitive country in Africa in the Global Talent Competitive Index (GTCI) for 2022.

Global Talent Competitive Index is a comprehensive annual benchmarking report that measures how countries and cities grow, attract and retain talent. It provides a unique resource for decision makers to understand the global talent competitiveness picture and develop strategies to boost their economies.

Top 20 Africa's s most talent competitive countries in 2022

1. South Africa �� (77th)
2. Egypt �� (86th)
3. Tunisia �� (91st)
4. Gambia �� (94th)
5. Ghana �� (95th)
6. Morocco �� (96th)
7. Kenya �� (97th)
8. Eswatini �� (100th)
9. Zambia �� (102nd)
10. Algeria �� (104th)
11. Benin �� (105th)
12. Rwanda ��(106th)
13. Senegal �� 107
14. Nigeria �� (109th)
15. Côte d'Ivoire (115th)
16. Malawi �� (116th)
17. Tanzania �� (117th)
18. Zimbabwe �� (118th)
19. Cameroon �� (119th)
20. Lesotho �� (120th)


#Source: Global Talent Competitive Index (GTCI) 2022
Some villager somewhere will come making noise
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:30pm On Dec 10, 2022
Ghana �� was Morocco’s �� inspiration for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

But they have left us behind...far better than us I must confess.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:34pm On Dec 10, 2022
I am not. I have used kenya and south africa medium term projections, lots of common sense and last 10yrs, to predict the next 10yrs, plus lots of knowledge on issue facing each country.

Your challenge - what did IMF or WB - predict kenya will be in 2023 in say 2013 or 2010 - and if they were right - I will concede

jl115:
So you acknowledge you are just trolling and talking absolute dog sh1t
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:36pm On Dec 10, 2022
Could be the famous dead cat bounce. Or the rigor mortis for large mammals. Give it time for people to digest the Ghana default. And we still have lots of uncertainty of external debt restructure and IMF deal.

So far Ghana has kicked the debt can down the dirty canal for 5yrs - and locals have accepted it.


A dead cat bounce is a temporary, short-lived recovery of asset prices from a prolonged decline or a bear market that is followed by the continuation of the ..

vaxx:
Ghana’s currency, the Cedi, has started gaining strength. It posted world’s biggest gain against the US Dollar last week. .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182:
England out. France now hot favourite with Argentina to win. England back?

Nay the usual English nonsense. What a jack. Total cowards.

Done deal...after morrocans..now the honking by French...look like we wont sleep for sometime
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:47pm On Dec 10, 2022
rvp20182:
Could be the famous dead cat bounce. Or the rigor mortis for large mammals. Give it time for people to digest the Ghana default. And we still have lots of uncertainty of external debt restructure and IMF deal.

So far Ghana has kicked the debt can down the dirty canal for 5yrs - and locals have accepted it.


A dead cat bounce is a temporary, short-lived recovery of asset prices from a prolonged decline or a bear market that is followed by the continuation of the ..
firstly , liquidity has never been a problem in Ghana, there is about 1.5 billon dollar of Ghana money sitting as investment in foreign country , we can actually withdraw it and charter our destiny ourself instead of waiting for the imf but we rather establish public trust and imf is going to actualized that , it is the ability to trust the local currency that is missing, there is continuation in GDP growth, maintaining positive in trade balance etc All this point out that it is not facing liquidity challenge. So the dead cat bounce analogy is not suitable for this position.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:05pm On Dec 10, 2022
IMF technical team and four of best international consulting companies- the Lazards - did technical analysis - at your invitation - you have serious structural debt problem - that will be resolved in 2037.

Those are opinions of 5 specialist - telling you the same thing - you're beyond help until 2037. Like someone terminal sick - you keep going to all sort of experts - same diagnosis - cancer stage 3.

Leave long stories about 1.5B dollars - that is nothing now - you've lost the biggest asset - TRUST.

Gov bonds - domestic and external - operate on the trust that gov will "never" default - that they are "risk free" asset - and when they do like Ghana did - it a serious prize to be paid by entire generation.

What is 1.5B when you owe 45B dollars and increasing daily. And you cannot borrow or refinance your debt - because nobody trust you - you have committed a cardinal sin in financing...you have defaulted.

vaxx:
firstly , liquidity has never been a problem in Ghana, there is about 1.5 billon dollar of Ghana money sitting as investment in foreign country , we can actually withdraw it and charter our destiny ourself instead of waiting for the imf but we rather establish public trust and imf is going to actualized that , it is the ability to trust the local currency that is missing, there is continuation in GDP growth, maintaining positive in trade balance etc All this point out that it is not facing liquidity challenge. So the dead cat bounce analogy is not suitable for this position.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:07pm On Dec 10, 2022
Next year is not even in and things are already this bad in Kenya.

Kenya is already borrowing to pay salaries... This is what a bankrupt country looks like.
A tragic debt to revenue ratio of 140% and a 33% budget financing deficit.
A country that has defaulted on several of it debt obligations

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:08pm On Dec 10, 2022
rvp20182:
I am not. I have used kenya and south africa medium term projections, lots of common sense and last 10yrs, to predict the next 10yrs, plus lots of knowledge on issue facing each country.

Your challenge - what did IMF or WB - predict kenya will be in 2023 in say 2013 or 2010 - and if they were right - I will concede
so the IMF can't use common sense? That's what your saying? Only rvp is capable of making accurate economic projections? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:09pm On Dec 10, 2022
rvp20182:
IMF technical team and four of best international consulting companies- the Lazards - did technical analysis - at your invitation - you have serious structural debt problem - that will be resolved in 2037.

Those are opinions of 5 specialist - telling you the same thing - you're beyond help until 2037. Like someone terminal sick - you keep going to all sort of experts - same diagnosis - cancer stage 3.

Leave long stories about 1.5B dollars - that is nothing now - you've lost the biggest asset - TRUST.
provide evidence for this your usual follish input or I consider it your normal rant .

Remember Ghana isn't kibera kenya
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:10pm On Dec 10, 2022
I am saying nobody can predict tomorrow or next hour; Dont hide behind those institutions; some of us have worked in all of them.
jl115:
so the IMF can't use common sense? That's what your saying? Only rvp is capable of making accurate economic projections? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:11pm On Dec 10, 2022
Just30:
Next year is not even in and things are already this bad in Kenya.

Kenya is already borrowing to pay salaries... This is what a bankrupt country looks like.
A tragic debt to revenue ratio of 140% and a 33% budget financing deficit
It is not only economic crush that is kenya is facing , there is also educational crunch. Two big problem at once
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:13pm On Dec 10, 2022
Why are being abusive? You kicked the domestic debt can for five years. Your own minister of finance admit the debt problem will be resolved in 2037. This after you hired 5 of the best consultancies - the Lazards etc.

2037 is the earliest. You're going to become solvent earliest 2027 - enough to start paying principal of domestic debt.

vaxx:
provide evidence for this your usual follish input or I consider it your normal rant .

Remember Ghana isn't kibera kenya
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:13pm On Dec 10, 2022
vaxx:
provide evidence for this your usual follish input or I consider it your normal rant .

Remember Ghana isn't kibera kenya
Ghana debt to GDP is expected to fall to 55% iwhich is the threshold for countries like Ghana and Kenya, in 2027.

I wonder how Kenya is planning to bring it debt service to revenue down to acceptable levels..

The IMF just rejected the plans they submitted grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:15pm On Dec 10, 2022
vaxx:
It is not only economic crush that is kenya is facing , there is also educational crunch. Two big problem at once
Multi headed problems
You forgot the dollar shortage that is crushing them
Hydra headed
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:16pm On Dec 10, 2022
I dont see where borrowing is for salaries - it is for development - the first WB loan is to finance dual carriage way btw Nairobi and my home area in Nakuru - 230km.
Ghana hope to borrow from world bank and bilateral donors in 2030.
Kenya having shut itself from external debt market due to interest and forex risk only recourse is world bank and bilateral donors.
Once eurobond opens again in 2-3yrs we will be back.
Ghana will be back in 2040.
Just30:
Next year is not even in and things are already this bad in Kenya.

Kenya is already borrowing to pay salaries... This is what a bankrupt country looks like.
A tragic debt to revenue ratio of 140% and a 33% budget financing deficit.
A country that has defaulted on several of it debt obligations
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