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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Adiwana: 12:50pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So now, we have moved from stats, to when they are needed. grin

Let's not go back and forth abeg

With Xavi on the podium, Iniesta remains a Fraud.

You can console yourself with when the stat was needed. But like a wise man said up there.[/color]
You’re the one flip flopping. You told me to concentrate on personal stats and I told you that I don’t care how many goals Ronaldo scored if those goals come against some farmers at Estonia in a meaningless friendly and not against Morocco in a World Cup Quarterfinal. That’s the basis I’ll judge Ronaldo. I don’t care what his role was, the question is where is Ronaldo’s World Cup knockout goal??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 12:51pm On Dec 12, 2022
Where have all this iniesta haters disappeared to ? Surfing the internet to check were Xavi is rated above iniesta grin?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ballzproblem2: 12:51pm On Dec 12, 2022
this line up ,oh my God

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 12:52pm On Dec 12, 2022
Adiwana:
You’re the one flip flopping. You told me to concentrate on personal stats and I told you that I don’t care how many goals Ronaldo scored if those goals come against some farmers at Estonia in a meaningless friendly and not against Morocco in a World Cup Quarterfinal. That’s the basis I’ll judge Ronaldo. I don’t care what his role was, the question is where is Ronaldo’s World Cup knockout goal??
[color=royalblue]You don't have to care.

That's what we all care about, and that's why we call a 4 goals in 92 matches profile, a FRAUD.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sebod(m): 12:54pm On Dec 12, 2022
How Iniesta was an AM in a 4-3-3 formation still baffles me honestly grin
Guys here should know that this same Iniesta was the best player in the world to Ibime until the UCL goal against Chelsea happened grin

If you want to doubt this, we might have to beg Raumdeuter to help us with those posts.... grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 12:56pm On Dec 12, 2022
Day 2


Ibime come out and tell us why Xavi all of a sudden lost the UCL semifinals without iniesta in 2010. I don't want to hear Ovrebo shit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m):
sebod:
How Iniesta was an AM in a 4-3-3 formation still baffles me honestly grin
Guys here should know that this same Iniesta was the best player in the world to Ibime until the UCL goal against Chelsea happened grin

If you want to doubt this, we might have to beg Raumdeuter to help us with those posts.... grin grin grin
If they so wish they can turn iniesta to a striker or supporting striker for i care but they should be ready to tell us why Debruyne/Fabregas isn't greater than modric/xavi using the same stats. Why Gerrard isnt better than Zidane using the same stats and also considering Gerrard played in a much deeper role.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 1:01pm On Dec 12, 2022
sebod:
How Iniesta was an AM in a 4-3-3 formation still baffles me honestly grin
Guys here should know that this same Iniesta was the best player in the world to Ibime until the UCL goal against Chelsea happened grin

If you want to doubt this, we might have to beg Raumdeuter to help us with those posts.... grin grin grin
That egbon is one of the biggest hypocrite here

But we ain’t ready for this conversation grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Adiwana: 1:02pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You don't have to care.

That's what we all care about, and that's why we call a 4 goals in 92 matches profile, a FRAUD.
[/color]
You think I care about 4 goals when one of those goals is a winning goal in a World Cup final?? Ronaldo will gladly give up half of his career goal tallies to score that one goal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 1:09pm On Dec 12, 2022
Adiwana:
You think I care about 4 goals when one of those goals is a winning goal in a World Cup final?? Ronaldo will gladly give up half of his career goal tallies to score that one goal
[color=royalblue]So Iniesta has a better career than Ronaldo?

Is this your new argument?[/color]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sebod(m): 1:12pm On Dec 12, 2022
andrewbaba44:
That egbon is one of the biggest hypocrite here

But we ain’t ready for this conversation grin
This debate has been on for years. The egbon had to tell us his perception about Iniesta being the best player in the world changed over time due to age and many other factors.
Ibime is a smart and very knowledgeable guy who can go any length to drive his agenda.
It's all agenda, those that know know grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 1:16pm On Dec 12, 2022
sebod:
This debate has been on for years. The egbon had to tell us his perception about Iniesta being the best player in the world changed over time due to age and many other factors.
Ibime is a smart and very knowledgeable guy who can go any length to drive his agenda.
It's all agenda, those that know know grin grin
Ibime is very smart and intelligent ,no doubt

He doesn’t hate iniesta ,we all know the reason of his agenda grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sebod(m): 1:21pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:
If they so which they can turn iniesta to a striker or supporting striker for i care but they should be ready to tell us why Debruyne/Fabregas isn't greater than modric/xavi using the same stats. Why Gerrard isnt better than Zidane using the same stats and also considering Gerrard played in a much deeper role.
It's all agenda from a very smart guy whose opinion is well respected here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:27pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:
Day 2


Ibime come out and tell us why Xavi all of a sudden lost the UCL semifinals without iniesta in 2010. I don't want to hear Ovrebo shit.
No need for Day 2

Do not let the sun go down on your anger - Ephesians 4:26
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Adiwana: 1:35pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So Iniesta has a better career than Ronaldo?

Is this your new argument?[/color]
My argument is that you cannot use personal stats to judge a player. You decided to go down the route, I decided to pull personal stats of Ronaldo to show you how meaningless 100 goals can get if it’s not scored in the biggest stage
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ballzproblem2: 1:43pm On Dec 12, 2022
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 1:51pm On Dec 12, 2022
Nirvana101:
May be not in Nigeria. But if Argentina go on to win the world cup, some people will commit suicide for real!
That one will concern them. All this Pendu and Pessi stuff na banter. If you kill yourself about it, then OYO
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 1:52pm On Dec 12, 2022
andrewbaba44:
More like prime Ronaldo and Messi era

Not when they where above 30

Thank you
You joking. Messi still won two more Balon D'or after Modric's own.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:03pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:
Keita was the one in place of iniesta that made them lost the match.


2009 UCL semifinals xavi + iniesta = final

2010 UCL semifinals xavi - iniesta = loss

2011 UCL semifinals xavi + iniesta = finals.

You have your answers.
2015 UCL semifinals Iniesta - Xavi = Finals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:05pm On Dec 12, 2022
Kilishihunter:
Lampard had no messi, Lampard had no messi
Did Messi play for Spain? Did Messi play after getting injured early in the knockout stages for barça in UCL 06?
Hensben no know ball
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:05pm On Dec 12, 2022
hensben:
Or probably Lampard had no Messi to take game into his hand almost every time. You guys underestimate the talent of Messi, that guy make every team thick and formidable by functioning in two position at same time, he is that exceptional. Messi is the best football talent of all time if you don’t know.
Na Messi win world cup and Euro for Spain
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by TrebleChamp(m): 2:06pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Bia, Ebukacute

What will it take to stop Pessi from getting to the finals? angry

If it is human sacrifice, I am ready angry[/color]
grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 2:08pm On Dec 12, 2022
Ibime:
No need for Day 2

Do not let the sun go down on your anger - Ephesians 4:26
Lol.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:09pm On Dec 12, 2022
hensben:
Thats the hypocrisy I’m against on this thread. They talk about goals and assist when talking of Hazard even when they know his game play is dribbling and driving the ball(not that his stat is poor) like iniesta. Hazard mostly played under defensive coach while at Chelsea while Neymar played for a dominated Barca and psg but they won’t be objective. Mention iniesta and Lampard dribbling will now matter.
Neymar and Hazard are attackers who are measured by goals and assists

Iniesta is a midfielder. How many times have you seen goals of Kroos or Modric being discussed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:10pm On Dec 12, 2022
Unlimited22:
Segedinho and Ramdeuter, una good morning
Him brother wey no do incantation for movies shey him don become millionaire
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:11pm On Dec 12, 2022
hensben:
Iniesta is good and don but he is overrated when compared to Zidane. Only Xavi can be compared with Zidane. Modric, Nedved and iniesta are on same level and profile. individually, Lampard was ahead of these players, it’s unfortunate he played for Chelsea who wasn’t rated with the clubs the three guys played for.
Lampard is way below everyone

Lampard wey play with England golden generation and couldn't make a semi

Lampard holds the records of most shots in a world cup without a goal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Leyqute(m): 2:14pm On Dec 12, 2022
FBS:
We have already discussed this. You all saw that Kane was selected by Popizaino and donstan18 but didn't say piin cheesy
And even though I repeatedly posted all the picks, some didn't pay attention or was just an oversight but hey, it is what it is. Sorry.
Oya change Bruno to Kane for me. Ojoro cancel ojoro grin

It’s all good tho. Wasn’t really serious about the Kane ish. Many people didn’t predict he’d have a good tourno.

Are we having another round for the semis and final? For most of us, our candidates have been eliminated
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 2:20pm On Dec 12, 2022
Adiwana:
You think I care about 4 goals when one of those goals is a winning goal in a World Cup final?? Ronaldo will gladly give up half of his career goal tallies to score that one goal
So this actually means you will consider Mario Gotez as Germany biggest player ahead of muller and others?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlaqFaze: 2:32pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So Iniesta has a better career than Ronaldo?

Is this your new argument?[/color]
Ozil is better than Zidane
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 3:07pm On Dec 12, 2022
Casemiro and Modric were both in Madrid from August 2012 to June 2022

Casemiro was a pure DM while Modric was CM/AM

Casemiro played 334 games

Modric played 436 games

Casemiro scored 31 goals

Modric scored 31 goals

One of them was definitely more defensive than the other

Now you are free to use the stats above for more agenda
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 3:21pm On Dec 12, 2022
Sportsweb:
You joking. Messi still won two more Balon D'or after Modric's own.
You still can’t compare Messi that won the ballon d or at 35 to Messi at his prime egbon

Iniesta came 2nd at the ballon d or at prime Messi time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 3:45pm On Dec 12, 2022
raumdeuter:
Casemiro and Modric were both in Madrid from August 2012 to June 2022

Casemiro was a pure DM while Modric was CM/AM

Casemiro played 334 games

Modric played 436 games

Casemiro scored 31 goals

Modric scored 31 goals

One of them was definitely more defensive than the other

Now you are free to use the stats above for more agenda
A40
Izzou
Airmark
Ibime/ hensben
Afrodoc
Sportweb
Capdan21
Almajirihunter



Bitter leaf soup is ready,you all should come out and use the same energy to dissect this stats the way you did on iniesta.
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