izzou:


So now, we have moved from stats, to when they are needed.

Let's not go back and forth abeg

With Xavi on the podium, Iniesta remains a Fraud.

You can console yourself with when the stat was needed. But like a wise man said up there.

Adiwana:


You’re the one flip flopping. You told me to concentrate on personal stats and I told you that I don’t care how many goals Ronaldo scored if those goals come against some farmers at Estonia in a meaningless friendly and not against Morocco in a World Cup Quarterfinal. That’s the basis I’ll judge Ronaldo. I don’t care what his role was, the question is where is Ronaldo’s World Cup knockout goal??

sebod:
How Iniesta was an AM in a 4-3-3 formation still baffles me honestly
Guys here should know that this same Iniesta was the best player in the world to Ibime until the UCL goal against Chelsea happened

If you want to doubt this, we might have to beg Raumdeuter to help us with those posts....

sebod:
How Iniesta was an AM in a 4-3-3 formation still baffles me honestly
Guys here should know that this same Iniesta was the best player in the world to Ibime until the UCL goal against Chelsea happened

If you want to doubt this, we might have to beg Raumdeuter to help us with those posts....

izzou:


You don't have to care.

That's what we all care about, and that's why we call a 4 goals in 92 matches profile, a FRAUD.

Adiwana:


You think I care about 4 goals when one of those goals is a winning goal in a World Cup final?? Ronaldo will gladly give up half of his career goal tallies to score that one goal

andrewbaba44:


That egbon is one of the biggest hypocrite here

But we ain’t ready for this conversation

sebod:

This debate has been on for years. The egbon had to tell us his perception about Iniesta being the best player in the world changed over time due to age and many other factors.
Ibime is a smart and very knowledgeable guy who can go any length to drive his agenda.
It's all agenda, those that know know

popizaino:



If they so which they can turn iniesta to a striker or supporting striker for i care but they should be ready to tell us why Debruyne/Fabregas isn't greater than modric/xavi using the same stats. Why Gerrard isnt better than Zidane using the same stats and also considering Gerrard played in a much deeper role.

popizaino:
Day 2


Ibime come out and tell us why Xavi all of a sudden lost the UCL semifinals without iniesta in 2010. I don't want to hear Ovrebo shit.

izzou:


So Iniesta has a better career than Ronaldo?

Is this your new argument?

Nirvana101:


May be not in Nigeria. But if Argentina go on to win the world cup, some people will commit suicide for real!

andrewbaba44:


More like prime Ronaldo and Messi era

Not when they where above 30

Thank you

popizaino:



Keita was the one in place of iniesta that made them lost the match.


2009 UCL semifinals xavi + iniesta = final

2010 UCL semifinals xavi - iniesta = loss

2011 UCL semifinals xavi + iniesta = finals.

You have your answers.

Kilishihunter:

Lampard had no messi, Lampard had no messi
Did Messi play for Spain? Did Messi play after getting injured early in the knockout stages for barça in UCL 06?

hensben:
Or probably Lampard had no Messi to take game into his hand almost every time. You guys underestimate the talent of Messi, that guy make every team thick and formidable by functioning in two position at same time, he is that exceptional. Messi is the best football talent of all time if you don’t know.

izzou:
Bia, Ebukacute

What will it take to stop Pessi from getting to the finals?

If it is human sacrifice, I am ready

Ibime:


No need for Day 2

Do not let the sun go down on your anger - Ephesians 4:26

hensben:
Thats the hypocrisy I’m against on this thread. They talk about goals and assist when talking of Hazard even when they know his game play is dribbling and driving the ball(not that his stat is poor) like iniesta. Hazard mostly played under defensive coach while at Chelsea while Neymar played for a dominated Barca and psg but they won’t be objective. Mention iniesta and Lampard dribbling will now matter.

Unlimited22:
Segedinho and Ramdeuter, una good morning

hensben:
Iniesta is good and don but he is overrated when compared to Zidane. Only Xavi can be compared with Zidane. Modric, Nedved and iniesta are on same level and profile. individually, Lampard was ahead of these players, it’s unfortunate he played for Chelsea who wasn’t rated with the clubs the three guys played for.

FBS:

We have already discussed this. You all saw that Kane was selected by Popizaino and donstan18 but didn't say piin
And even though I repeatedly posted all the picks, some didn't pay attention or was just an oversight but hey, it is what it is. Sorry.

Adiwana:


You think I care about 4 goals when one of those goals is a winning goal in a World Cup final?? Ronaldo will gladly give up half of his career goal tallies to score that one goal

izzou:


So Iniesta has a better career than Ronaldo?

Is this your new argument?

Sportsweb:
You joking. Messi still won two more Balon D'or after Modric's own.

raumdeuter:
Casemiro and Modric were both in Madrid from August 2012 to June 2022

Casemiro was a pure DM while Modric was CM/AM

Casemiro played 334 games

Modric played 436 games

Casemiro scored 31 goals

Modric scored 31 goals

One of them was definitely more defensive than the other

Now you are free to use the stats above for more agenda