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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:04pm On Dec 14, 2022
vaxx:
And there is fewer option for them. People choose to become diploma nurse or teacher because it is believe it is easier way to secure employment. But that was before not anymore. We have too much of them in supply.
Either they cut their intakes into those schools or they remove the bond, remove the allowances and let them get jobs in places where their services will be much more needed.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:18pm On Dec 14, 2022
vaxx:
And there is fewer option for them. People choose to become diploma nurse or teacher because it is believe it is easier way to secure employment. But that was before not anymore. We have too much of them in supply.
Now Teacher trainees are doing Degree courses, diploma ended in 2019. The first batch of Degree students completed this year
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
Just30:
Either they cut their intakes into those schools or they remove the bond, remove the allowances and let them get jobs in places where their services will be much more needed.
it is only Ghana in west africa that pays student for studying to become nurses and teachers . No country does that . Removing the allowance is a right step. The allowance money can be channel into other thing more profitable in education and health sector.

Ghana has one of the highest number of nurses ratio to patient in the world, much more than the required limit of world health organization. We can really make more dollars thru them , we send them to country that are lacking In exchange of dollars . They pay to govt , just like the Ghana nurses deal with barbados and UK.. for every student that goes away , we should be making like 1000 pounds .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:25pm On Dec 14, 2022
vankelvin:
Now Teacher trainees are doing Degree courses, diploma ended in 2019. The first batch of Degree students completed this year
there is still option for teacher certified program, degree course takes about four years , certificate course required less . Most of the teacher training school are affiliated with public university . We need to turn some old training teacher college to university standard. Some school deserve it.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:59pm On Dec 14, 2022
vaxx:
it is only Ghana in west africa that pays student for studying to become nurses and teachers . No country does that . Removing the allowance is a right step. The allowance money can be channel into other thing more profitable in education and health sector.

Ghana has the one of the highest number of nurses to patient in the world, much more than the required limit of world health organization. We can really make more dollars thru them , we send them to country that are lacking In exchange of dollars . They pay to govt , just like the Ghana nurses deal with barbados and UK.. for every student that goes away , we should be making like 1000 pounds .
I really don't favor govt making money off others labour.... Govt should have no business in someone getting a job out of the country
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kkins25(m): 11:16pm On Dec 14, 2022
Just30:
I really don't favor govt making money off others labour.... Govt should have no business in someone getting a job out of the country
Governments can only survive off my labour. It has been so, and would continue to be so. We call it TAX.
-income tax.
-health tax.
-tax
-tax
-tax,
If African nations don't follow their western nation and tax it's citizens from every corner, then we'd eventually fail.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 12:11am On Dec 15, 2022
Just30:
I really don't favor govt making money off others labour.... Govt should have no business in someone getting a job out of the country
what is wrong in taxing Ghanaian working abroad ? If that isn't possible, then taking away skillful profession like nursing and teaching should be monetize. Govt spent so much training an individual in becoming a nurse or teacher.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 12:20am On Dec 15, 2022
vaxx:
what is wrong in taxing Ghanaian working abroad ? If that isn't possible, then taking away skillful profession like nursing and teaching should be monetize. Govt spent so much training an individual in becoming a nurse or teacher.
That is not a tax... This comes closer to selling them (a form of slave trade) whereby the govt went into an agreement with another government to export human being for their labour and receives a payout (selling).

It will be different if the individuals got their own jobs abroad by themselves and govt says that because they are bonded, their employer is liable to certain deductions per month or wholesome payment from the employees salary
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 12:27am On Dec 15, 2022
kkins25:
Governments can only survive off my labour. It has been so, and would continue to be so. We call it TAX.
-income tax.
-health tax.
-tax
-tax
-tax,
If African nations don't follow their western nation and tax it's citizens from every corner, then we'd eventually fail.
kindly refer to my comment above to Vaxx ...
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 12:33am On Dec 15, 2022
Just30:
I really don't favor govt making money off others labour.... Govt should have no business in someone getting a job out of the country
Thanks 4 the reply.
Those nurses have families and relatives back home, they will surely send money back home which will be another source of forex for the nation.
Ghana govt should not copy kenya govt
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 12:39am On Dec 15, 2022
QuietMynd:
Thanks 4 the reply.
Those nurses have families and relatives back home, they will surely send money back home which will be another source of forex for the nation.
Ghana govt should not copy kenya govt
Exactly so

But the problem is, the nurses and teachers are bonded by law and to break the bond they have to make a certain payment to govt or serve the country for a number of years for subsidizing their education.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 1:27am On Dec 15, 2022
Just30:
That is not a tax... This comes closer to selling them (a form of slave trade) whereby the govt went into an agreement with another government to export human being for their labour and receives a payout (selling).

It will be different if the individuals got their own jobs abroad by themselves and govt says that because they are bonded, their employer is liable to certain deductions per month or wholesome payment from the employees salary
I don't agree with you , there is a reason foreign student pay more than local student in Ghana for example, the justification is that the student once they complete there degree , they are transferring their skills into another country and most importantly , Ghanaian tax payers help in funding their education so they pay more to compensate the govt .unlike the locals that will actually utilized the degree in Ghana.

It is there skills that is monetized, training nurses and teachers actually gulp some cash from the govt pulse not to even talk about the allowance govt pay them . They have to pay back .

There is nothing bad if govt got rewarded for sending professional to another country ( it doesn't come free or cheap ) it should even be subjected to renewal if the foreign nation intends to keep the employee.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
QuietMynd:
Thanks 4 the reply.
Those nurses have families and relatives back home, they will surely send money back home which will be another source of forex for the nation.
Ghana govt should not copy kenya govt
paying govt some cash doesn't mean the employee will not be pay their wages . If govt sponsor an employee visa , traveling process , got you a job and negotiate a considerable wages on your behalf then such govt should be entitled to some kind of compensation.. And i am saying instead of taxing you like kafala system ( the one operated in gulf nation) , they should rather focus on the country of migration since they are the one who call for your service . Skills should be monetized , it shouldn't be free if it is coming from govt to govt unless it's a charitable exercise.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kkins25(m): 2:54am On Dec 15, 2022
vaxx:
[b]paying govt some cash doesn't mean the employee will not be pay their wages . If govt sponsor an employee visa , travelling process , got you a job and a considerable wages on your behalf then such govt should be entitled to some kind of compensation.. [/b]And i am saying instead of taxing you like kafala system ( the one operated in gulf nation) , they should rather focus on the country of migration since they are the one who call for your service . Skills should be monetized , it shouldn't be free if it is coming from govt to govt unless it's a charitable exercise.
Exactly, I think because countries like ours blessed with natural resources have gotten too used to the government providing subsidies for everything. Cheap education, cheap fuel, cheap transportation, and so on. We forget that government is not picking money from the air. All that free education and nothing to return to the country?? Haba!! let them go to America and school and see the difference.

we wamt to enjoy what the west are enjoying but don't want to pay the price.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 7:01am On Dec 15, 2022
kkins25:
Exactly, I think because countries like ours blessed with natural resources have gotten too used to the government providing subsidies for everything. Cheap education, cheap fuel, cheap transportation, and so on. We forget that government is not picking money from the air. All that free education and nothing to return to the country?? Haba!! let them go to America and school and see the difference.

we wamt to enjoy what the west are enjoying but don't want to pay the price.
cuba sending doctor to venuzuela in exchange of oil is just one of the example . More than 3 billion dollar worth of oil was exchange for cubarian doctor ..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:33am On Dec 15, 2022
Africa remittance - kenya still behind Ghana - maybe for another year.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:37am On Dec 15, 2022
Cuba has nailed their healthcare. They have world class healthcare built on community health workers that ensure disease prevention. They can now export - even poor Kenya got Cuban doctors and we pay them.

Ghana has a long way to go. Quick check on WHO shows Ghana need to do way more to train community health workers. Instead of becoming a slave labour exporter for yet another century - please re-look at your country immediate needs - and focus your gov training there.

If there is excess labour nurses - why not train people in agricluture. I have seen videos of Ghana primitive agriculture and they can do with lots and lots of agricultural extension officers.

vaxx:
cuba sending doctor to venuzuela in exchange of oil is just one of the example . More than 3 billion dollar worth of oil was exchange for cubarian doctor ..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
The Cedi has gain 56% of lost value and now trading at 6.

By Monday it will be at 3 cedis to a Dollar.


The Ghanaian economy is back on track.. the central bank will have to intervene should it cross 5 because it will become a problem, just like the Russian Central bank had to.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:25am On Dec 15, 2022
The mad man in his element.

2 minute readDecember 14, 202212:29 PM GMT+1Last Updated 20 hours ago
Ghana inflation hits 21-year high above 50% in November
By Cooper Inveen and Christian Akorlie
People make trade in Accra
A shop owner, checks the stock at Makola market, one of the country's largest trading centres in Accra, Ghana March 26, 2022. REUTERS/Francis Kokoroko
ACCRA, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Ghana's annual consumer inflation accelerated to a new 21-year high of 50.3% in November, up from 40.4% the previous month, driven by utilities, food and fuel, data showed on Wednesday
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ghana-inflation-rises-503-yy-november-stats-office-2022-12-14/
Just30:
The Cedi has gain 56% of lost value and now trading at 6.

By Monday it will be at 3 cedis to a Dollar.


The Ghanaian economy is back on track
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:33am On Dec 15, 2022
Meanwhile Kenya expansion to Francophone gather pace

KCB bank has completed buying of Trust Merchant Bank (TMB) (a Congolese bank) for over Sh15 billion.

"If you've ever been to Kinshasa,one might think he's in Kenya KCB and Equity banks,ATMs and agents alnost everywhere. Kenyan financial firms really runs the DRC".
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
rvp2018:
The mad man in his element.

2 minute readDecember 14, 202212:29 PM GMT+1Last Updated 20 hours ago
Ghana inflation hits 21-year high above 50% in November
By Cooper Inveen and Christian Akorlie
People make trade in Accra
A shop owner, checks the stock at Makola market, one of the country's largest trading centres in Accra, Ghana March 26, 2022. REUTERS/Francis Kokoroko
ACCRA, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Ghana's annual consumer inflation accelerated to a new 21-year high of 50.3% in November, up from 40.4% the previous month, driven by utilities, food and fuel, data showed on Wednesday
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ghana-inflation-rises-503-yy-november-stats-office-2022-12-14/
You're just stupid ... I don't expect a lunatic to know these.

Wait for December inflation figures ... It will drop to 25%

The cedis only started appreciating last 2 weeks.
By January or February, inflation will be at 12% if we end the year with the Cedis at 4.

At this rate, the Ghanaian economy has surpassed the Kenyan economy in nominal terms at 127 billion dollars and a GDP per Capita of 4,093 dollars
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
rvp2018:
Cuba has nailed their healthcare. They have world class healthcare built on community health workers that ensure disease prevention. They can now export - even poor Kenya got Cuban doctors and we pay them.

Ghana has a long way to go. Quick check on WHO shows Ghana need to do way more to train community health workers. Instead of becoming a slave labour exporter for yet another century - please re-look at your country immediate needs - and focus your gov training there.

If there is excess labour nurses - why not train people in agricluture. I have seen videos of Ghana primitive agriculture and they can do with lots and lots of agricultural extension officers.
nonsense



Focus on your agricultural primitivity and end this mess else your country will never surpass Ghana in agriculture especially staples production ( something you have to do urgently because of your huge population)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNleYGf8ty4
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:59am On Dec 15, 2022
Seasonal inflows from diaspora visiting home and positive sentiment from IMF/debt restructuring.
Could be a dead cat bounce or sustained.
We shall find out soon enough.
There is still question of Eurobond and external debt restructuring - and of course what IMF deal really entails.

In the meantime engage in xmas celebration and delusion.

You need to re-energize.

Just30:
You're just stupid ... I don't expect a lunatic to know these.

Wait for December inflation figures ... It will drop to 25%

The cedis only started appreciating last 2 weeks.
By January or February, inflation will be at 12% if we end the year with the Cedis at 4.

At this rate, the Ghanaian economy has surpassed the Kenyan economy in nominal terms at 127 billion dollars and a GDP per Capita of 4,093 dollars
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:01am On Dec 15, 2022
rvp2018:
Seasonal inflows from diaspora visiting home and positive sentiment from IMF/debt restructuring.
Could be a dead cat bounce or sustained.
We shall find out soon enough.
There is still question of Eurobond and external debt restructuring - and of course what IMF deal really entails.

In the meantime engage in xmas celebration and delusion.

You need to re-energize.
none of that are playing a substantial role .. we have inflows every year end but the cedi still depreciate worse.

To be appreciating this fast and in the month of December... It should tell you something
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:02am On Dec 15, 2022
Yes, kenya livestock sector has long way to get to Botswana level. Ghana entire agricluture is mostly primitive.
Just30:
nonsense
Focus on your agricultural primitivity and end this mess else your country will never surpass Ghana in agriculture especially staples production ( something you have to do urgently because of your huge population)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNleYGf8ty4
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:03am On Dec 15, 2022
Maybe there is some divine intervention this time.
Your miracle is happening.
You need to work on your mental health
Just30:
none of that are playing a substantial role .. we have inflows every year end but the cedi still depreciate.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:17am On Dec 15, 2022
Just30:
You're just stupid ... I don't expect a lunatic to know these.

Wait for December inflation figures ... It will drop to 25%

The cedis only started appreciating last 2 weeks.
By January or February, inflation will be at 12% if we end the year with the Cedis at 4.

At this rate, the Ghanaian economy has surpassed the Kenyan economy in nominal terms at 127 billion dollars and a GDP per Capita of 4,093 dollars
Bolded-like I told Rvp2018 many moons ago... That's not how GDP calculations work..... You don't just increase your GDP by the % of your currency appreciation/deprecation.... You have a base price for a basket of goods which is fixed for a certain number of years
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:29am On Dec 15, 2022
vaxx:
it is only Ghana in west africa that pays student for studying to become nurses and teachers . No country does that . Removing the allowance is a right step. The allowance money can be channel into other thing more profitable in education and health sector.

Ghana has one of the highest number of nurses ratio to patient in the world, much more than the required limit of world health organization. We can really make more dollars thru them , we send them to country that are lacking In exchange of dollars . They pay to govt , just like the Ghana nurses deal with barbados and UK.. for every student that goes away , we should be making like 1000 pounds .
I disagree will that portion.
Currently the ratio of Nurses to patients is still low. More needs to be done
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:32am On Dec 15, 2022
vaxx:
there is still option for teacher certified program, degree course takes about four years , certificate course required less . Most of the teacher training school are affiliated with public university . We need to turn some old training teacher college to university standard. Some school deserve it.
Certificate courses in Teacher training ended some 18 or more years ago.
Diploma in Training colleges also ended in 2019. But I don't know for the Diploma courses in the Distance Education courses
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:34am On Dec 15, 2022
How comes Angola GDP crushed from 140B to 70B when their kwacha crushed.
GDP of course is calculated from base price from a base year - ideally every 5yrs - for SSA 10yrs is good enough to rebase.
This has nothing to do with nominal GDP. That GDP in that country currency.
Then after all that - nominal GDP - to simply divide that by official dollar rate at end of the year.
To get GDP PPP - you dont use USD but international basket.
It's that simple.

So there are 3 GDPS if you will - GDP in rand (real GDP), GDP in dollars (Nominal GDP), GDP in PPP(as alternative to nominal)

The real GDP uses a deflator on the prize (nominal) to remove price changes from the base year - as you want to measure quanties of things produces - not get "confused" by price changes from inflation.

GDP is simple maths of price times quantity produced of all goods and services.

There is no controversy on the quantiles - it's on the prices or value of good & services - hence many variation of GDPs.

You can deflate GDP using the base year (real GDP) or USD or international PPP - but generally USD is the best deflator and nominal GDP in USD is GOLD STANDARD.

jl115:
Bolded-like I told Rvp2018 many moons ago... That's not how GDP calculations work..... You don't just increase your GDP by the % of your currency appreciation/deprecation.... You have a base price for a basket of goods which is fixed for a certain number of years
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:44am On Dec 15, 2022
vaxx:
there is still option for teacher certified program, degree course takes about four years , certificate course required less . Most of the teacher training school are affiliated with public university . We need to turn some old training teacher college to university standard. Some school deserve it.
46 Colleges of Education were affiliated to UCC and 2 were with UEW but because of the Educational reforms that happened in 2018 Government made some 4 Public Unis to establish an Education Institute so currently as we speak the 48 Colleges of Education are affiliated to these unis, UCC, KNUST, UG, AAMUSTED, UDS and UEW.

The issue now is 10 years from now the Colleges that will meet all the standards for Uni will be upgraded into fully fledged Universities
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:44am On Dec 15, 2022
rvp2018:
Yes, kenya livestock sector has long way to get to Botswana level. Ghana entire agricluture is mostly primitive.
Primitivity is when Kenya can't produce at substantial quantity and quality any of it staples to feed itself and be food secure because of how primitive your agric is.

You guys can't even produce rice because it is capital intensive and spend 1.8 billion dollars at retail prices on imported rice
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