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It really pains you to be twice kenya in landmass and 10million more; strange.
South Africa is not developed.
It's a middle-class country slowly regressing.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Kenya is 5m less

South Africa developed long ago

rvp2018:
It really pains you to be twice kenya in landmass and 10million more; strange.
South Africa is not developed.
It's a middle-class country slowly regressing.

only 4 million more than Kenya

If it's not developed, why do you need to catch up?

68816419:
another justification for why they prioritize their cities over other advanced cities

JLL-- "jones lang lasalle" is a global commercial real estate service company founded in the UK.

Get your facts right.

ProblemChild1:
Nigeria consume more power than your certified shithole go get yourself some food you silly pig

You are always fixated on food like a true bonobo primate.

68816419:
Eko Atlantic which is about 25 km² is at least 10 times larger than Nairobi CBD

Lay off the Tramadol.

ProblemChild1:
Show me anywhere in Kenya that can be like this. I challenge you sh*male


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnFNkNg5jFI

You think Abuja is your mate. You think it's about tall buildings and skyscrapers. Tall buildings with no good roads, trees, planning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpruHWbAJGE

You're showing me useless video. What are these... Honestly?

Just click one of these know your lane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNLqnwoJqmM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtgzRP3y5Dw

You'll realize your cities are shambolic. And I'm not saying these foe trolls or hate... I am just putting the facts straight.

Shma2022:
You're showing me useless video. What are these... Honestly?

Just click one of these know your lane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNLqnwoJqmM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtgzRP3y5Dw

You'll realize your cities are shambolic. And I'm not saying these foe trolls or hate... I am just putting the facts straight.

Imagine? I just waste my data watching these nonsense videos. First fix your tiny CBD before we talk. Your roads are tiny, CBD is congested. Watch cape town CBD or joburg CBD and Abuja CBD then compare it with this rubbish you posted.

ProblemChild1:
Don't start what you can't finish dude. It won't end well

Wait! Is this a threat?

By now you should know your lanes. I can kill your career before you realize your existence in nairaland.

Challenge me on merit --- pictures -- and not useless rants.

ProblemChild1:
Imagine? I just waste my data watching these nonsense videos. First fix your tiny CBD before we talk. Your roads are tiny, CBD is congested. Watch cape town CBD or joburg CBD and Abuja CBD then compare it with this rubbish you posted.

You've watched no video. What I gave you is in comparable to what you gave me.

Just pick a random guy --- eg JL115. Ask him to analyze those videos for your puny brain.

Wakanda

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjhBFuWXgAEmsX2.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj_j-tGWAAASObK.jpg

Shma2022:
My brain is tingling trying to reason with you.
Try and think for a little bit.

Etymology
From French dynamique, from Old Greek δυναμικός, from δύναμις ("power", from δύναμαι ("I am able".

Pronunciation
IPA: /daɪˈnæm.ɪk/
Adjective
dynamic

Changing; active; in motion.
The environment is dynamic, changing with the years and the seasons.
dynamic economy
Powerful; energetic.
He was a dynamic and engaging speaker.
Able to change and adapt.

Dynamic does not state who is there already and who is not. It shows the rate of change --- the degree to which development is happening. How fast has it grown in the past 5 years or 10?

I know what dynamic means bru.... I'm asking you how is it relevant to them all ranking low wrt QOL.....a ranking that actually means something

Just30:
only 4 million more than Kenya

If it's not developed, why do you need to catch up?

What are you arguing about?

Middle class: Kenya is way ahead of Ghana.

City-wise: Accra doesn't qualify top 4 slots in Kenyan cities.

rvp2018:
Skyscrappers is quickest way to know if a city is growing because the vertical growth is very apparent to people with limited intelligence like you. Horizontal growth is also happening. You can bet Nairobi is not just building skyscrapers for beauty but to respond to high demand for office spaces; Nairobi is catching up in horizontal infrastructure, housing, universities, malls, population, name it and will overtake Joburg in max a decade...min in 5yrs.

This image if you were intelligent enough would help you connect the dots.

you sound like Sammy with his "naked eye test" rhetoric ... Anyway I look at pure data, and on pure data Kenya has barely even caught Joburg, never mind Nairobi.....i mean just a single city in SA has nearly the same amount of infrastructure (if not more) than your entire country

Also like I said before the most dynamic list means nothing if your cities are still light years away from ours

jl115:
I know what dynamic means bru.... I'm asking you how is it relevant to them all ranking low wrt QOL.....a ranking that actually means something

Enlighten yourself on the JLL city momentum index. We can proceed from that point. Thank you.

Shma2022:
Enlighten yourself on the JLL city momentum index. We can proceed from that point. Thank you.

the argument is still the same my bru....compare indexes that mean something like QOL... Obviously less developed cities like Nairobi will be more dynamic than say Cape Town or Joburg which are much much more developed.....its simple logic

Shma2022:
What are you arguing about?

Middle class: Kenya is way ahead of Ghana.

City-wise: Accra doesn't qualify top 4 slots in Kenyan cities.

sorry kiddo we are not talking about middle class.
Your education failed you.

But as concerning that, unless you want to convince the world that 15 million for Ghana is lesser than 5 million for Kenya.

In Ghana, Nairobi will be classified a village because all it large population centers gives village vibes

rvp2018:
It will still be maybe two decades (max) for kenya to catch up with South Africa.
Remember your cement consumption is basically stuck - at 13m - or maybe even reducing - for a country twice the size of kenya and 10m people more.
Kenya cement consumption is growing at 20% annually - so it will overtake South Africa in 2-3yrs.
By 2027 - it will likely be at 20 million tonnes.
By 2030 - it will be at what who knows 40 million tonnes.

Meanwhile South Africa has peaked early and is highly unlikely to join say Thailand, China, Indonesia and others knocking at developed world status soon.

Already Mauritus left us and joined developed world. You could tell they were about because they were nailing many things including high quality of education - which is prerequisite to join developed world really - unless you're qatar or kuwait with gazillion of oil.

South Africa is stuck.
It remain stuck because the fundamentals are screwed.

South Africa has become the most violent rape capital full of uneducated idiots like you and the hunter mostly on drugs supplied by west africans. And their lights are going off.

So soon you'll become a real Zoo like Nigeria - and you will find like Nigeria skyscrappers that have completely been in disused for years. I think nearly half in Nigeria dont function - lifts stopped working - they are used as toilets. Cocoa house in Ibandan good example. Many in Lagos are abandoned - some burnt.

While Nigerian visit other cities and get suprised by "light" staying on for long; South Africans now get suprised if they dont get robbed or raped.

It's about population growth rate not just population.... Kenya's population growth is much higher than SAs, hence your cement consumption should also be more to sustain that growth... But it isn't.... The rest of your post is just your usual bs

jl115:
Also like I said before the most dynamic list means nothing if your cities are still light years away from ours

Lol! SAn cities are not light year ahead of kenyas. Yes they are ahead but not far ahead.
Dynamics bridge the gap. A recipe for Nairobi catching up SA is through massive change: like building skyscrapers, modern infrastructure and whatnot. We can't catch up with SA if we remain static in development --- or maintain same level of development.
By catching up, we mean Kenyan cities are developing at a faster rate than South African cities.

But yeaH, it will take time to reach there.

Just30:
sorry kiddo we are not talking about middle class.
Your education failed you.

But as concerning that, unless you want to convince the world that 15 million for Ghana is lesser than 5 million for Kenya.

In Ghana, Nairobi will be classified a village because all it large population centers gives village vibes

Focus on your dream. Stop wasting words.

jl115:
the argument is still the same my bru....compare indexes that mean something like QOL... Obviously less developed cities like Nairobi will be more dynamic than say Cape Town or Joburg which are much much more developed.....its simple logic

QOL is entirely a different subject though?

Using the same logic, What is your take on Shanghai and Beijing?

Shma2022:
Lol! SAn cities are not light year ahead of kenyas. Yes they are ahead but not far ahead.
Dynamics bridge the gap. A recipe for Nairobi catching up SA is through massive change: like building skyscrapers, modern infrastructure and whatnot. We can't catch up with SA if we remain static in development --- or maintain same level of development.
By catching up, we mean Kenyan cities are developing at a faster rate than South African cities.

But year, it will take time to reach there.

No SA cities are far ahead.... Otherwise how is it that Joburg has more universities than the entire Kenya, more malls than the entire Kenya, more stadiums than the entire Kenya, road network nearly the length of your entire network, an economy nearly the size of your country.... Should I go on?

Shma2022:
QOL is entirely a different subject though?

Using the same logic, What is your take on Shanghai and Beijing?

Cape Town, Durban and Joburg rank higher in terms of QOL than either Beijing or Shanghai

Shma2022:
Focus on your dream. Stop wasting words.

The man showing Kenya the way to development... Keep learning and one day you'll catch up(the dream of every Kenyan)

Nairobi is competing with Kigali, Djibouti and co

LDC - LM - UM - Developed.
Ghana is going to LDC as we speak as it battle bankruptcy for 15yrs.
RSA is upper middle class that is essentially back to 20yrs ago - about 6000usd per capita;
Just three times kenya

Just30:
only 4 million more than Kenya
If it's not developed, why do you need to catch up?

rvp2018:
LDC - LM - UM - Developed.
Ghana is going to LDC as we speak as it battle bankruptcy for 15yrs.

I which you had that concern for Kenya, it's the only country whose HDI dropped

It happened because Kenya has been bankrupt for the past 3 years now.

Your 1800 GDP per cap is not just 3 times of 6,000

Just30:
The man showing Kenya the way to development... Keep learning and one day you'll catch up(the dream of every Kenyan)

Nairobi is competing with Lusaka

Focus on your dream, hobbit. Stop wasting words.

There is no single index that is better than others . Beijing and Shanghai dont have you kind of slums, crime, rape and drugs.

If we go by QOL by Economist Intelligence Unit - this is really has nothing on cities.

Determinants of quality of life
The nine quality-of-life factors, and the indicators used
to represent these factors, are:
1. Material wellbeing
gdp per person, at ppp in $. Source: Economist Intelligence
Unit
2. Health
Life expectancy at birth, years. Source: us Census Bureau
3. Political stability and security
Political stability and security ratings. Source: Economist
Intelligence Unit
4. Family life
Divorce rate (per 1,000 population), converted into index
of 1 (lowest divorce rates) to 5 (highest). Sources: un; Euromonitor
5. Community life
Dummy variable taking value 1 if country has either high
rate of church attendance or trade-union membership; zero
otherwise. Sources: ilo; World Values Survey
6. Climate and geography
Latitude, to distinguish between warmer and colder climes.
Source: cia World Factbook
7. Job security
Unemployment rate, %. Sources: Economist Intelligence
Unit; ilo.
8. Political freedom
Average of indices of political and civil liberties. Scale of 1
(completely free) to 7 (unfree). Source: Freedom House
9. Gender equality
Ratio of average male and female earnings, latest available
data. Source: undp Human Development Repor

jl115:
Cape Town, Durban and Joburg rank higher in terms of QOL than either Beijing or Shanghai

Shma2022:
Focus on your dream, hobbit. Stop wasting words.

skeletal zombie ... Go develop Nairobi, that should be your dream so that you don't keep ranking with Kigali and Djibouti

Then you can stop crying

Shma2022:
Wait! Is this a threat?

By now you should know your lanes. I can kill your career before you realize your existence in nairaland.

Challenge me on merit --- pictures -- and not useless rants.

Lol small yash dey shake

jl115:
Cape Town, Durban and Joburg rank higher in terms of QOL than either Beijing or Shanghai

So does Nairobi.

Nairobi ranks higher in QoL than both Beijing and Shangai. But we can't say Nairobi is anywhere close to those two.

rvp2018:
There is no single index that is better than others . Beijing and Shanghai dont have you kind of slums, crime, rape and drugs.

If we go by QOL by Economist Intelligence Unit - this is really has nothing on cities.

Determinants of quality of life
The nine quality-of-life factors, and the indicators used
to represent these factors, are:
1. Material wellbeing
gdp per person, at ppp in $. Source: Economist Intelligence
Unit
2. Health
Life expectancy at birth, years. Source: us Census Bureau
3. Political stability and security
Political stability and security ratings. Source: Economist
Intelligence Unit
4. Family life
Divorce rate (per 1,000 population), converted into index
of 1 (lowest divorce rates) to 5 (highest). Sources: un; Euromonitor
5. Community life
Dummy variable taking value 1 if country has either high
rate of church attendance or trade-union membership; zero
otherwise. Sources: ilo; World Values Survey
6. Climate and geography
Latitude, to distinguish between warmer and colder climes.
Source: cia World Factbook
7. Job security
Unemployment rate, %. Sources: Economist Intelligence
Unit; ilo.
8. Political freedom
Average of indices of political and civil liberties. Scale of 1
(completely free) to 7 (unfree). Source: Freedom House
9. Gender equality
Ratio of average male and female earnings, latest available
data. Source: undp Human Development Repor

this is what mercer bases there ranking from.

The total index is based on the following categories:

Consumer goods
Economic environment
Housing
Medical and health considerations
Natural environment
Political and social environment
Public services and transport
Recreation
Schools and education
Socio-cultural environment

Nope.
I dont there is any correlation btw South Africa falling cement consumption with population.
It's more linked to economy that has tanked.
We have seen the same with Nigeria - despite them breeding like rats.

I know hunter you hate reading - but try read this on your cement demand/prod - and see how projections have been wrong.

Economy tanking
http://www.acdi.uct.ac.za/acdi/OHNCHI001_2012_ACDI_Dissertation.pdf

jl115:
It's about population growth rate not just population.... Kenya's population growth is much higher than SAs, hence your cement consumption should also be more to sustain that growth... But it isn't.... The rest of your post is just your usual bs